We are studying the role that slave/master Lauren Salzman, the star recruiter of DOS, played prior to her epiphany that Keith Alan Raniere was an evil monster.
She is facing sentencing and, in studying her testimony, it seems at times beyond bizarre that grown women would tolerate and submit to such extraordinary insanity., while all the while claiming it was for their own growth.
This is Part 5.
Here are the other stunning and shocking reports on Lauren.
Part 1 How Lauren Salzman Described Her Branding Session
Part 2 Lauren Salzman Recruited Sarah Edmondson by Lying and Agreed Sarah Should Cuckold Her Husband if Raniere Commanded
Part 3 Lauren Salzman Describes Collateral She Got From Her Slaves, After Lying to Them About DOS
Part 4 Lauren Salzman Brands Five Slaves Lying to Them About the Brand; Becomes the Leading Recruiter of DOS
At the trial of Keith Alan Raniere, Lauren was a star witness for the prosecution. She is being examined by Assistant US Attorney Tanya Hajjar.
At this point in her testimony, Hajjar is showing Lauren and the jury various exhibits. One of these is a series of photographs of Lauren’s slave Audrey’s brand, taken daily to show the progression of the healing of her brand.
Images of Audrey’s brand. [See complete photographs of the progression of Audrey’s brand]
Keep in mind that Audrey is an attractive, intelligent, young woman, employed in a coveted position in a humanitarian organization. She had given Lauren collateral of nude photos and a false confession that she had slept her way to the top with married bosses at her job.
Q So, the images in this exhibit, Ms. Salzman, what are they?
A This is Audrey’s brand which is Keith’s initials.
Q Can you show the members of the jury where the defendant’s initials were…
A Yes, so this is K and then that triangle is the triangle of the A with the A and then the line, the middle line of the A becomes the back of the R and the R is reversed, it’s backwards (indicating.)
Q And what initials does that stand for, KAR?
A KAR, Keith Alan Raniere.
Q Now, does your brand and the brand of the other first nine slaves look like this?
A Mine is upside down, a mirror image of that.
A Because it was the first line, you could see that it was his initials in all the first line masters and everybody below the first line had it flipped upside down and reversed I think to conceal it.
Q To conceal what?
A The initials.
Q So, in your brand the fact that it contains the defendant’s initials is more visible, more readily apparent than here?
A More visible, yeah, if you’re just looking at it directly but I always thought that that was suspicious because if you have the backwards one and you look at in the mirror, which is how you look at yourself all the time, it’s the right way so I thought for sure they [the slaves] were going to see it [was his initials] but…
Q But they didn’t?
A No, and that was also why I was raising questions to Keith about it but, yes, correct, they didn’t.
Q And did you ever ask permission to explain the initials, did you ask permission from Keith to disclose to your slaves the brand?
A Not to explain the initials but I did — I found out later that some people’s slaves did know about his involvement and I wanted mine to know and I did ask for permission and he said maybe at some point but didn’t give the permission so I couldn’t tell them. So, I mean — but I did have permission to read from (sic) them the book and so I told them that the supreme master had written the book for us and also that if we succeeded in our enrollment goals, we would qualify for additional curriculum and I was hoping that they would be able to connect the dots on that because it is almost exactly how the other organizations work and Jimena did. So, Carola knew about the initials and the brand and Jimena knew about Keith’s involvement.
Q Did the others?
Q Ms. Salzman, these photographs depict the brand over time as it healed?
A Yes, correct.
Q And for what period of time was Audrey sending you these photographs?
A I think these reflect the first six weeks.
Q Did she send these every day to you?
A Yes, they all did.
Q Did you send them anywhere else?
A To Danielle.
A I was told Danielle was the one who kept track of them.
Q This is the last image in that series. About how long after the initial branding was this image sent to you?
A This is probably up to six weeks.
Q You testified about acts of care?
Q And work that your slaves performed for you?
Q Was their work considered part of the vow of obedience to you?
Q And the monthly collateral, you testified that you submitted it and your slaves did, was that considered part of the vow as well?
A It was considered part of keeping collateral current but, yes, when I told them to keep it current, it was under the vow of obedience.
Q Did your slaves also track enrollment in DOS in some form?
A They did, yes.
Q Can you explain that?
A There were a number of things that I asked them to keep track of, who they were enrolling and in which stage of enrollment each of the candidates were, when they expected that those candidates would each move to the next stage of enrollment and be fully collateralized in the vow, and then there were other things I asked them to track; their acts of care, I asked them to track that they were doing their daily act of self-denial, their good morning-good night and anything else they were checking in on I asked them to keep track of. I didn’t necessarily need to see it but I wanted them tracking it.
Hajjar then presented another exhibit to Lauren.
Q Ms. Salzman, I’m showing you what’s in evidence as Government Exhibit 425R. This is a spreadsheet to track the stages of enrollment and how much time they anticipated each person would be in each stage of enrollment. And so at the top when it says: “Prospect’s first guarantee approach,” “Pitch to saying yes,” Why “first said yes,” what does that mean?
A That means the prospect is who do you have in mind to approach to join. “First guarantee” means that they submitted the initial collateral for secrecy. “Pitch to saying yes” is when you’re in the process of telling them about the four aspects to the vow.
That the “lifer” said yes, which is the stage four-column, means that they’ve heard the four aspects of joining, which is The Vow of obedience, the master-slave concept, the collar and branding and they said, yes, that they want to join after hearing that. And then, stage five is they have fully collateralized.
Q And they are six rows underneath those headers. What do each of those — those rows [are] each a DOS slave of yours?
Q Did Audrey prepare this at your direction?
A Audrey offered to come up with a way to help track it, and I said, yes, that would be helpful to me.
Q Did you instruct that there needed to be tracking?
A Yes, I asked her to track a number of different things.
Q And so what is — what does this page of Government Exhibit 425R show, the second page, it says enrollment status tracking, what does this reflect?
A It shows the different people that each of my slaves had in the stages of enrollment and when they anticipated each — the dates that they would be moving through the different stages.
Q And are those dates reflected at the top?
Q At the bottom where it says: “Totals lifer, all including M,” what does that mean?
A It meant how many people that we would have fully collateralized in The Vow by each of those dates, including myself. So it was how many we would have in our entire group; myself included, my slaves included, and their enrollments, and anyone below them included.
Q So at 45, the lower right-hand column would be by July 3rd  that corresponds to dates, in other words?
A That’s what they were striving for, yes.
Q Can you describe what this page reflects in group accountability and the chart that’s underneath that?
A I believe this is — these are the different things that they were tracking. So they were tracking their enrollment, a discipline that they were doing. I don’t know if that was daily acts of self-denial or weekly active care. I had asked them to notify me, so that was [what] they were tracking. They were updating their goals, sending pictures and brands, doing their active care, and being accountable to the data in the spreadsheet, and they were adding their penances as a personal list. And then for June, when they said “weight,” weight was another word that we used for collateral.
So where they’re saying monthly guarantee, that means the monthly collateral. And that they were reporting to me that they had submitted it. That they were fully collateralized and that were ready. So those were the things they were checking on.
Q And the “M” refers to you as master?
Q The highlighted box here, “take one spoon per person who fails.” Do you know what that refers to?
A Audrey called it a spoon, but I think she was taking paddle penances if they failed for all the failures of the people in her group. She had brought it to me and asked me — she told me she wanted to do it and asked me if I was okay with her to do that [being paddled] and I said, yes.
Q Was that something you suggested?
A I suggested that they take — that they figure out how they wanted to deal with the readiness failures, [readiness drills or tests were where the slaves had to respond to a text from their master by text within 60 seconds any time day or night or be punished. Masters were punished for their slaves’ failures] and that I was taking on penances for their failures.
So when they had failed at readiness, I shared [with her slaves]– I was taking on penances for them. So, they suggested that they would take the same penance I was taking. So, once I suggested — I told them I was taking [bare-ass] paddlings for all of their failures, then they wanted to take that as their penance as well.
And then Audrey, in this case, was taking additional paddlings for the failures of her group members.
So there you have it. They were taking bare-ass paddlings for failing to wake up out of a sound sleep to respond to a text from their master within 60 seconds. These readiness drills were top-down drills. That is, Keith Raniere – who was up all night fucking around with women anyway – would send a text to his eight first line slaves – sometime in the middle of the night – and all the first line slaves had to respond to him within 60 seconds with the text “ready M” and then text their own slaves – who, in turn, had to respond to them within 60 seconds.
If the slave had a slave, she had to text that slave and get a response within 60 seconds.
In this way, Raniere could wake up every woman in DOS from her sleep within a minute or two.
If a slave failed, Raniere required their master to do penance – a punishment. He devised paddling as one darn good penance. In fact, he personally delivered a hard paddling to Dani Padilla’s bare ass. [Raniere was somewhat displeased when he found Dani enjoyed it.]
But it was supposed to hurt and it did. And for some of the slaves, it was far from pleasant.
And here, we have the image of Lauren Salzman submitting to being paddled repeatedly because one of her slaves did not respond to some 3 AM text within a minute and then one of her slaves, Audrey, is offering to be paddled as well.
Is there no end to the madness of Keith Raniere and his women?
Boy was this thing F’d up.
KAR built his harem using MLM strategies, and he wore his girls down with torture, subjugation, sleep deprivation, abuse and more.
KAR was his trademark, like they were cattle.
I wish the girls would see this. When they “get it”, they will have a much, much different view of this sociopath.
Now is that first picture really necessary? Think of someone as sensitive and religious as poor Mrs. Snyder. Maybe in the future, before posting pictures of a purient nature, think to yourself, what would Mrs. Snyder think of this photo and me for posting it.
Are you referring to the mother? You need to read Frank’s mission statement. He doesn’t cater to the most sensitive person on the planet who may come across his website. Besides, there are no reports of Snyder ever being paddled, so what is your point?
I don’t know if I am just in or on the Christmas spirit but the comments here are just so entertaining lately. Cheers everyone!
“Thank you, Sir, may I have another”
Raniere and his oldest ho-bags and/or naively possessed acolytes could weep and mourn on cue with fake grief, just as they caterwauled for the dethroned Bouchey, pretending to be only just hearing for the very first time of Gina Hutchinson’s death. Ah yes, it had to, had to, had to come from la Barb, her deposed majesty. She demands credit for shocking the Master and his immediate inner, inner circle of human innards like Baba Wawa, as Gilda Radner used to say. Baba Wawa boo-hoo hoo-hah à la Bouchey.
I used to think Bouchey was different and more detached and “heroically, nobly motivated.” But that proved to be optimist gullibility from me, so I had to paddle my own tush. Hahaha. Re-frigging-pentance, day in and day out, has got to suck! Whoops, too many car-crash puns, but these poor Raniere people could not tune in to the theater of the absurd they’d decided to inhabit.
All living on top of each other in a terrible Roman Polanski horror movie and trying to sound civilized about it.
Luckily there was only a wet noodle close at hand with which to afflict myself, after it dawned on me that Bouchey was selling 20 year-old manure greeting cards.
Here we have Raniere, the myopic pinhead, swatting Padilla’s ass. That could not have been the first time he felt disappointed, maybe choking her down in a deepthroat cuckhold and pulling out her armpit hair with a lit candle and some unsanitized tweezers.
But how pathetic can a myopic pinhead get? Padilla was getting off on being paddled. Frank Parlato said so. He just told everybody that Padilla was enjoying the ass-whacking. Raniere didn’t like her pleasure? WTF. This dude had NO sense of natural humor. He is not even a smart doofus. Padilla just wanted to have more fun. That is all the poor demonic thang wanted. Keithy-Weethie no like pleasure, no like fun. There was Padilla all blissed-out having his required satori about how only through pain are you able to feel love. Raniere could not even get his own teachings, his own mumbo-jumbo horsecrap. What an asswad.
Whose red ass is in that picture?
…says the coward who won’t use their real name.
Sound’s like you would like to tap Johnson’s azz
Don’t we all?
Her name is Kylee Anders. Other photos also show her face.
Thank you for finally providing us with some real value.
Her face??? WTF is wrong with you? Take off the kid filters, Junior.
If a slave gets paddled for not responding to a readiness drill on time, what would happen if they turned state’s evidence against NXIVM? You would think that would at least warrant a mushroom imprint on their forehead administered by the Vanguard himself!
You mean like one of those tiny white button mushrooms?
No, more like a gigantic portabello mushroom.
Kind of like your own big mushroom head, Mr. Johnson?
GIrl Scout Cookies,
I think your being too generous comparing Scott to a Mushroom. Scott is E. coli.
Are you sure you’re role-playing a complete idiot? You do such a good job, it feels genuine to me. LOL
Yes, except Raniere’s behind bars. LOL
If you look close enough, there’s a mushroom imprint right around their mouths
Toni Natalie stopped all this. Buy her book on Amazon. You won’t be disappointed.
Did you lose your medical degrees?
What happened to the MD, DD, PHD, JD, etc.?
What happened to your medical offices in Omaha and Wichita?
Oh, do you get a commission for every book you sell for Toni Natalie?
I’m still an MD plus DDS, PhD, DD and JD. What degrees do you have ?
A story you might find of interest.
No Sentencing Dates for Allison Mack, Nancy Salzman and Lauren Salzman Likely Means They’re Cooperating Witnesses For New Charges Against Clare Bronfman and Others
Dr. Gas Porter:
You are so much smarter than me.
I eat my soup with a fork.
That’s because you were educated in Illinois.
How many slaves total did KAR have the ability to wake up in a minute or two? Where was he going with this?
It seems to me a ritual of submission, that didn’t necessarily need to have a point, other than to enforce loyalty and obedience – for that purpose, it’s almost more effective the more pointless is it. Such things are common in initiatory groups – why do actual fraternities and sororities paddle new and lower status members? – and particularly cults.
However, it occurs to me that it may have helped serve to keep the slaves sleep deprived. Speaking of which, doctors’ internships with their long hours and low pay are another sort of initiatory rite, that research has shown is actually harmful including to patient welfare, and yet the profession resists change because it is a longstanding bonding practice – and those who have gone through such a grueling trial, are hesitant to admit that it was pointless.
At least we have something to discuss that is on-topic and revealing of NXIVM’s internal dynamics, and both non-controversial as well as somewhat amusing! 🙂
It also occurs to me that it’s important to note that what NXIVM did, did not actually follow the practices of consensual BDSM – and it’s the sort of things they violated, that got them in legal trouble.
A lot of things occur to you.
It also occurs to me that it’s important to note that what NXIVM did, did not actually follow the practices of consensual BDSM
Ironic that the BDSM aspect of NXIVM is precisely what attracted you to join the cult.
More babbling from the mad one
Did first line slaves really get paddled or did they pretend that they were taking punishment for their slaves failing readiness? Or did Lauren have to provide proof to Keith that all her slaves and their slaves and so on contacted each other within 60 seconds and really got punished if there was some failure? I recall the cold shower thing with Alison and I have never understood whether she genuinely would do these punishments or it was just a line to get her slave to comply.
It is all so ridiculous that I’m finding it hard to keep up with all the madness
Come on, Natashka. Pay attention. Just kidding. Totally agree.
I was nearly lost when I read “spoon” then really quite relieved the spoon turned out to be another description of the paddle
They had to film it and send it to him!
I think it’s been demonstrated that they were stupid enough to actually do the punishments.
Part of me would have a little more respect of the top tiers lied, sent a message to Keith “yeah, all replied in under 60 seconds” and went back to sleep. On that basis I come to the conclusion they loved the control and dishing out the punishment and taking it! Warped minds
Amway gave out actual awards for being “loyal,” such as when the upline was passing through town at 3 am, had a flat tire, called someone in their downline and they went out and helped them change the tire. You were expected to keep up on your voice mail messages (from which the upline profited), and if it meant doing it late at night, so be it. So there weren’t necessarily drills like NXIVM did, just expectations.
I recall Lauren testified that Dani described to Lauren a particularly painful paddling by Keith. Keith had to make sure she didn’t enjoy it. I don’t recall what Dani’s “infraction” was.
I’m glad Frank is kowtowing to the lowest common denominator, and spicing up FR (I’m looking at you, niceguy). Is part 6 of the Lauren series going to an analyzation of her pod’s nude group photos?
He’s just giving Lauren’s testimony. She is being sentenced. I think it’s fair to hear her role in Nxivm and DOS. If it’s salacious, don’t blame Frank. Blame Lauren. Btw I think Nice Guy is really a nice guy.
I’m sorry, Keira. My virgin eyes are having a difficult time with such filth.
I know. I know. If I can’t handle some sensual lesbian paddling, what am I going to do next week when Frank starts his drip campaign of the DOS collateral?
Keira – I’m asking this for a friend. If a slightly out of shape but really nice middle aged man ever asked you to go with him to a Tracy Chapman show, would you go?
A person named Nutjob is asking a stranger if she is interested in going to a horrible Tracy Chapman show with another total stranger and wimpy guy. No wonder people joined NXIVM. Jeesh!
Keira, be very careful accepting such an offer or you may end up stuck with paying for his entrance fee and his twelve vodka cranberries
Now that was funny!!!
NiceGuy has already stated he is role playing. No wonder people joined NXIVM. Jeesh!
Golly, I hope so.
Lauren’s pod was not nearly as good looking as Allison’s pod. I do have some standards.
BTW; Do you really want to see a bunch of women that look like women from Hustler’s Beaver Hunt?
I bet you and Frank remember those Polaroid photos, Hustler published, of women who looked like they worked at a Denny’s Restaurant.
When I was 12 my friend’s older brother showed us the Beaver Hunt. I remember thinking “So that’s why they call it a beaver.”
Like Natashka probably is, I’m already confused by who was in who’s pod.
My beaver humor comes from Leslie Nielson. But, I do know a clean beaver always gets more wood.
Do you think Keira is pretty? Circle YES or NO
These nxivm people are so fucking stupid. The more stuff that comes out, the more toxic they look. If this bitch Lauren Salzman doesn’t get the death penalty for double-digit years of bullshit, including DOS, then the justice system is fucked. Side point, Nxivm coach Kristin Kreuk should have joined DOS if there were bare ass spankings. Wasn’t it revealed she is a “sub” into BDSM? Presumably, Mark Hildreth was her “dominatrix”, even though he is so obviously a weak pussy-boy.
“Wasn’t it revealed Kreuk is a “sub” into BDSM?”
Yeah, by the same person who said GBD was a BDSM school for girls. Has any supporting reports come out on this? Hmmmm….
We have to have your usual “burden of proof ” eh spanky ? Not on this blog you suck ass. This blog leads to charges and doesn’t require your approval or proof of anything.
“Has any supporting reports come out on this?”
No. If there was any truth to it, then evidence for it would have come out long ago, especially by the government entrusted authorities who were in charge of the NXIVM investigation and are much smarter than 99% of those who comment here. Therefore, the necessary conclusion is that it can only be a complete fabrication, a concocted story rooted in the impurest of motivations, whatever they may be.
Still shielding Kristin Kreuk from criticism thru digital ramblings? Does that get your little fifty year old piss-worm wet with Kristin Kreuk’s vaginal juices? No it does not. She just takes more of your life spirit and gives you nothing in return. There most likely has been zero investigation in any way shape or form into Girls By Design. We normal people know enough to render it bad. Now get back to your lonely ass life, lying there in your empty bed watching, crying to and masturbating to Bridget Jones’s Diary (the Bollywood version).
“We normal people know enough to render it bad.”
You’re obviously not normal and never were. You’re on the insane side of the spectrum and morally decrepit in an extreme way.
That is hilarious. The mad spanker calling someone else insane. Guess it takes one to know one. And spanky must know em all !
LOL 😂 the delusional LITERALLY INSANE creep calls others insane 🤣😂. Are you pretending to be someone else or do you acknowledge you are Spanky!? 🤭
Lots of illegal nxivm activities have not been brought to charges yet, and Kristen Kreuk’s Girls By Design is one that seriously should be looked into.
It already has been and we found nothing illegal or salacious.
Nxivm Trafficking Teens For Raniere IS very serious…so it surely WAS looked into, and….crickets. Does that tell you anything?
“we found nothing illegal or salacious”
At least you must have found a ball-gag with Kreuk’s saliva on it…or did I dream it?
I was conflicted. It was very hard for a pussy-boy to spank the bare ass that I usually have to kiss.
Mark Hildreth should sell the sex pics and videos he made of Kreuk, before her fans lose interest.
There is no death penalty punishment for the crimes that were committed, but there is a thing called prison justice….
Not to mention not only did beakmaster get her bare ass paddled, she got beat with the ugly stick on a regular basis.
Look on the bright side, she can always get a job as a Jimmy Durante stand-in.