Leaked clip: Nancy Salzman teaching NXIVM Intensive in Monterrey on ‘anger’

Rare leaked clip of Nancy Salzman AKA Prefect teaching a NXIVM intensive. A rare four minute glimpse into the secret world of NXIVM.

“Anger is a secondary emotion. First you experience fear,” she says.

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  • I don’t know who Dr Khalak is and I don’t follow what you mean by reading between letters big and small for what initials and words mean. I was simply acknowledging your point and building on it by suggesting that someone can feel multiple simultaneous emotions about the same scenario for different reasons rather than one being a primary emotion leading to a secondary emotion. Essentially, agreeing with you that anger in the case of betrayal of trust can be a primary emotion and that feeling fear about that same betrayal of trust can also be a primary emotion for a different reason than why someone would feel anger.

  • Nancy is so fucking patronizing and condescending. She talks to people like they have the mental capacity of children.

  • She is the Prefect. It is your honor to pay to hear her in any language. Bullshit by any other name will still smell as sweet.

  • For a group claiming to have such a Mexican presence, it’s odd to me that these leaked seminars are taught by Nancy in English with a translator on-the-fly translating her ramblings. No Spanish-language teachers were available?

  • She’s stupid. There is such a thing called righteous indignation which is rooted in a controlled anger that is felt and it doesn’t have to have anything to do with fear. For example, if someone betrays your trust you’re not angry because you fear them. You’re angry because you were fooled into believing they were good people with sincere motives but none of that was true.


    • I am an Expian. I’m glad I am no longer involved. I like what you bring to the table in your comments, Darth VanDouche, but some of the things that were taught (as most people have pointed out come from a variety of other sources masked by Keith’s lie that he came up with all this) do make sense. Yoda, himself, taught that fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. If someone were to betray my trust, I might not fear that person, but I might fear that I made a poor choice in whom I gave my trust and that others could also betray me, and that would make me angry. Just playing devil’s advocate.

      • I didn’t say anger cannot come from fear. What I implied was that anger is not just a secondary emotion. Anger can come from a number of different places, but it can also be the first emotion invoked by a situation that has nothing to do with fear. I cannot fear a choice I made after the fact that resulted in betrayal, only future choices I might make in trusting others because of it.

        • I can go along with that. And to disagree with Nancy and Keith, I wouldn’t call any emotion “secondary”. Thinking about your scenario, I can hypothesize feeling emotions, in this case both fear and anger, simultaneously, or alongside each other. Anger at the person for betraying my trust. Fear of the potential/impending repercussions of that betrayal. In that case, it might not be one emotion causing the other to manifest, but experiencing multiple emotions for different reasons.

          • Thanks Dr. KhaLaK for your hypothesis. I too can read between the letters big and small for what the initials and words mean and “can hypothesize what that would feel like.”

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Frank Parlato is an investigative journalist.

His work has been cited in hundreds of news outlets, like The New York Times, The Daily Mail, VICE News, CBS News, Fox News, New York Post, New York Daily News, Oxygen, Rolling Stone, People Magazine, The Sun, The Times of London, CBS Inside Edition, among many others in all five continents.

His work to expose and take down NXIVM is featured in books like “Captive” by Catherine Oxenberg, “Scarred” by Sarah Edmonson, “The Program” by Toni Natalie, and “NXIVM. La Secta Que Sedujo al Poder en México” by Juan Alberto Vasquez.

Parlato has been prominently featured on HBO’s docuseries “The Vow” and was the lead investigator and coordinating producer for Investigation Discovery’s “The Lost Women of NXIVM.” In addition, he was credited in the Starz docuseries 'Seduced' for saving 'slave' women from being branded and escaping the sex-slave cult known as DOS.

Parlato appeared on the Nancy Grace Show, Beyond the Headlines with Gretchen Carlson, Dr. Oz, American Greed, Dateline NBC, and NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt, where Parlato conducted the first-ever interview with Keith Raniere after his arrest. This was ironic, as many credit Parlato as one of the primary architects of his arrest and the cratering of the cult he founded.

Parlato is a consulting producer and appears in TNT's The Heiress and the Sex Cult, which premieres on May 22, 2022.

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