The pushback against Catherine Kassenoff has begun in earnest. Much of it pushes the narrative that Catherine was mentally ill.
Frank Report is waiting for confirmation of Catherine Kassenoff”s death in Switzerland from medically assisted suicide.
A woman may have lost her life. The father of her three children lost his job, and his reputation is tainted – all on the public stage – and at what will be the cost to their children.
It is now a matter of public interest to hear the entire story. The good and the bad, even if it angers some, and without an agenda to protect any narrative but the truth.
Catherine Kassenoff posted on Facebook 18 damning videos of her husband Allan yelling and acting cruel to her and the children, while Catherine, coolly filming, remains calm.
On May 27, she posted on Facebook that she planned to commit medically assisted suicide that day in Switzerland, and then posted no more.
Her post and the videos went viral. The husband, Allan Kassenoff, lost his job as a high-paid lawyer. Now, audios and videos leaked anonymously and believed to be released by Allan’s lawyer Constantine ‘Gus’ Dimopoulus, showing Catherine acting as badly as Allan have emerged.
Presumably, Allan made the recordings, and unsurprisingly, he is the cooler one. Near the end, there is a break in the recording, so there is reason to believe it has been edited – raising the question, what has been left out?
Trigger warning
In this audio, which appears to have been recorded around the same time as Catherine’s videos, 2014-2016, Catherine is upset over her belief that her eldest child, who is adopted, ate her chocolate bar and lied about it.
This is a very disturbing audio and may make some rethink this entire story.
FR’s transcription follows the link to the audio, which has already been published elsewhere.
Since anger, hostility and sorrow make some words hard to hear, it is not a perfect transcription.
There are those who undoubtedly will feel that FR should not have published this audio.
But in the interest of getting at the truth and understanding the dynamics of family court and the tragedy of divorce and custody battles, it is in the public interest.
Child
(Crying) I didn’t. I didn’t. I did not. I did not.
Catherine
Don’t you dare–
Allan
Leave her alone. Enough.
Catherine
Look at it.
Allan
Okay, so she’ll clean it.
Catherine
Look at it.
Allan
Okay, so she’ll clean it.
Catherine
No no no no. I pick my battles, and this is one–
Allan
You pick every battle. You don’t let anything go! Let her sleep.
Catherine
She STOLE my chocolate bar.
Child
I did not! (Sobbing)
Catherine
Yes, you did.
Child
I did not
Catherine
You did, you liar.
Allan
I’m going to wake up the other girls and find out.
Child
I did not! (Sobbing)
Allan
Get the hell out of her room now!
Child
I did not
Allan
Come with me downstairs.
Catherine
[to Child] You’re a liar.
Child
I did not
Allan
Leave her alone!
Catherine
Allan, I’m allowed t–
Child
I did not. (Sobbing)
Allan
Relax. Relax! Relax It’s 10:30, let her sleep.
Catherine
[to Allan] You know what you’re doing is so bad.
Allan
[to child] Relax.
Catherine
She doesn’t have school tomorrow.
Allan
Doesn’t matter, she has to wake up and go to work with you.
Catherine
I want to talk to her. And I want to talk to her now.
Allan
[to child] Take a deep breath. Take a deep breath. Calm down. Calm down.
Catherine
This is drama designed to get you to do exactly what you’re doing!
Allan
Calm down
Catherine
[to Allan] What you’re doing is wrong. You should be backing me up, and you should be calling her a liar, and you should make her go upstairs.
Allan
[to child] Are you okay? Take a deep breath. I know.
Catherine
This is wrong, and she’ll accuse you of lying, and she’ll accuse me of lying like she does.
Allan
[to child] Take a deep breath.
Catherine
And is abuse and everything else she does. You want to have a person living in this house – get your fucking hand out of my face out of my face. Out of my face.
Allan
[to child] Take a deep breath. Clam down.
Catherine
You ate the chocolate bar.
Allan
[to child] Don’t respond. Don’t respond.
Child
I did noooot! (Sobbing).
Catherine
[to Allan] Excuse me? What are you talking about, don’t respond?
Allan
Don’t be an animal!
Catherine
[To Allan] You are a ridiculous human being! You don’t know how to teach morals.
Allan
You terrorize these kids.
Catherine
Morals matter! Not in your book, they don’t. Morals matter!
Allan
So does being a civilized human being.
Catherine
[To child] Go up to your room. We’re gonna discuss this chocolate bar. Go up to your room. Now!
Allan
Take a deep breath
Catherine
Morals matter! Lying matters!
Allan
I want you to calm down.
Catherine
[To child] You will go to jail if you keep this up. Go up to your room. We’re gonna go discuss this.
Allan
I want you to calm down.
Catherine
[to child] Now! Go up to your room NOW! NOW! Walk! Walk! [To Allan] See? Now she won’t listen to me anymore. [to child] Go to your room!
Allan
You treat her like a dog.
Catherine
[to Allan] She is! She’s a liar! [to child] Go to your room!
Allan
So what? You ever think it’s because of the way you treat her?
Catherine
[To Allan] Have you lost your mind? Have you lost your mind?
Allan
I’m so sick of the way you treat her.
Catherine
Have you lost your mind?
Allan
Everyone knows it!
Catherine
[to Allan] Look at you! You’re blaming me? Oh my god. You have done so much destruction!
Allan f
When Charley gives… All.–.
Catherine
You have done so much destruction. You’ve done so much destruction. [to child] He doesn’t care about morals. I don’t care if he does. You can hate me as much as you want. I will teach you morals. He., what he’s doing is wrong. [to Allan] Get out! I will discuss this with my daughter. Get out.
Allan
The one that you get out when you tell her that you want to give her back to Florida? [to child] Has she ever told you she wants to return you to your family in Florida?
Child
Yes
Catherine
Oh my god! Now we’re gonna start lying. Now we’re gonna start lying because I accuse her of stealing my chocolate. Now we’re gonna talk about Florida, which is a lie.
Allan
You’ve never said that to her?
Catherine
[To child ] Have I abused you? Have I abused you?
Child
You have said that y–
Catherine
Okay, why don’t you go tomorrow? Go to the Bright Horizons people and tell them I’m abusing you. Then we can have a CPS investigation, OK?
Allan
Have you ever told her that? About Florida?
Catherine:
[to child] Has he told you that he’s gonna kick you out of this house? Did he call you a fucking retard the other day? Did he call you a fucking retard?
Child
Yes.
Catherine
Yeah. A fucking retard is what you called her
Allan
You’re losing control.
Catherine
I’m losing control. You called her a fucking retard. You! You called your daughter a fucking retard. Right, Ally. Is that what he called her – you?
Allan
Ally, do you want to go downstairs or do you want…
Catherine
Ally, did he call you a fucking retard?
Allan
I’ve got to go do my work.
Catherine
I am entitled to parent. Get out of here!
Allan
You are not acting like a civilized human being.
Catherine
Oh, I’m so sorry.
Allan
You’re screaming
Catherine
It’s okay to call her a fucking retard.
Allan
You know what? I lose my control with her one time–
Catherine
Oooooh! Okay, I’m sorry. So, you admit that you lost your control. I don’t lose control. I’m upset about my chocolate.
Allan
This is you in control? I’m gonna go do my work. [To child] If you need me, I’m downstairs, Okay?
Catherine
[To child] Oooh is he your BFF?
Allan
No, I’m her father.
Catherine Kassanoff
No, you’re not.
Allan
You don’t understand the difference.
Catherine
You know what you’ve done. You are so wrong. It’s gonna turn into crying. You’re gonna turn into crying, it’s gonna turn into crying. Because she knows that you will believe her lie.
Allan:
Relax
Catherine
I won’t believe the lie, but you will, you’ll believe it. You believe the lie. Believe the lie. Believe the lie, Allan. Believe it.
Allan
I’m not believing or not believing–
Catherine
Believe the lie! Because it’s all my… I’m the reason you lie, right? It’s me, right?
Child
No
Catherine:
Because that’s what he said. Is that what he said when he walked up the stairs?
Allan
I said treat her civilly.
Catherine
[to child] Didn’t he say I’m the reason?
Allan
Treat her civilly.
Catherine
Get the fuck out! You get the fuck out!
Allan
Treat her civilly.
Catherine
Get the fuck out!
Allan
Don’t talk to me that way.
Catherine
You get the fuck out. I’m so tired of you.
Allan
I’m tired of you.
Catherine
You don’t know how to teach morals. You’re a disloyal. You’re an unmoral person. Get out!
Allan
[to child] Can I ask you a question? Do you think mommy treats you fairly?
Catherine
Oh my god! We’re gonna have a discussion about fairness at 10:30 at night. All I want to do. Get out of her room! All I want to do is find out about what’s going on with the chocolate.
Allan
Okay, grill her. Grill her. Grill her.
Catherine
But now, we got to have a discussion about morality, about fairness,
Allan
Grill her
Catherine
About CPS investigations, about abuse, about whatever else. [To child] I want to have a discussion with you, you come to me now. You get over here. Now!
Allan
I’ll stay here.
Child
[to Catherine] Nooo I don’t want tooooo! (Crying) Daddy!!!!
Allan
[To child] I’m with you. [to Catherine] Stop pulling her.
Catherine
You pulled her! Get up. Get up. Get up.
Allan
Ally, I’m coming too, don’t worry.
Child (crying)
Allan
I’m coming with you
Catherine
[to child] You want to scream like a baby? You can scream like a baby, just like you did the other night. Get in there. Get in there. With me here. Get away, I want to have a discussion with my daughter about what happened with my chocolate.
Allan
Every time I asked to have a discussion with her privately, you throw a hissy fit. You can grill her with me here.
Catherine
No! I don’t want you here.
Allan
I’m not leaving you alone with her.
Catherine
Oh, I’m sorry. You’re allowed to have discussions! I don’t care what you do. You’re a loser anyway.
Allan
Good for you.
Catherine
Listen. Here’s the deal. Okay. I’m going to ask you one time. Do you understand me?
Child
Yes.
Catherine
[to child ] Put your hands down!
Child
The chocolate wrapper…
Catherine
Put your hands down!
Child
The chocolate wrapper…
Catherine
Put your hands down.
Child
I am.
Catherine
DON’T TALK BACK TO ME!
Allan
Let her answer you.
Catherine
Stop looking at him!
Allan
Cathy, you’re acting like a lunatic.
Catherine
She looked right at you.
Allan
No, she- Regardless. You’re acting like a crazy person.
Catherine
You did not look at him?
Allan
No, I just looked at the wall.
Catherine
Oh, you didn’t look at him? Really?
Child
Noooo (crying)
Catherine
Stop judging me.
[break in tape]
Catherine
Really? I’m the only person who has done anything for that kid. I took her to stars online. I took her to the doctor. Where are you? Do you go to Doctor Kutcher’s office?
Allan:
Some of us have jobs that are more hours than yours, luckily for you.
Catherine
No no no no. I have a job with hours. You actually have flexibility.
Allan
Whatever you say, Catherine.
Catherine
Did you ever in your whole life take one day, one day, one day to take her to Doctor Kutcher, ever?
Allan
I guess you work harder than me, so you’re lucky.
Catherine
[To child] Did he ever take you a single day to Doctor Kutcher’s? Never right? Do you think that your father could probably find one day? We’re gonna turn this into daddy’s problems. Do you think one day in his whole life he could’ve taken you to Dr. Kutcher’s?
Child
No
Allan
Way to bring her into the middle Catherine.
Child
No.
Catherine
Never you don’t think he could take you?
Child
I don’t think he could.
Catherine
He never does, does he? Why do you think that is?
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Everyone needs to stop, take a step back, and stop throwing this word abuse around. It’s wrong. Regular and repeated torture, violence, assault, injuries, deprivation…THAT is abuse. And right now, right at this very moment, probably not too far from where you are right now there are children who ARE being abused. They system is jam packed and kids are dying everyday because they just can’t get to them because of situations like these that are NOT abuse. YES my heart goes out to this woman who is CLEARLY in pain and I don’t like to EVER see someone hurt like this but by GOD as parents, you’re the adults, recognize your part and pick up the phone and take the whole family to counseling BEFORE it gets to the point of no return! My heart goes out to these children, may they grow to be good, kind, productive human beings. And PLEASE do not let this woman’s struggle and death go in vain but let this be a lesson for us all.
This is the woman painted as a saint across the internet? Someone who apparently spends hours terrorizing a child over a CHOCOLATE BAR? She sounds just as bad as him, nothing of value was lost here. One less abuser walking the earth. I hope those kids can heal from these revolting adults someday.
They’re both crazy
This is the outcome of dealing with an abusive spouse for many many years…. Catherine is a victim and so are her children.
Yes, it’s pretty clear that he’s the manipulator here and that her behavior is following from his abuse. Undermines her attempts at discipline, puts the kid in the middle and then later suddenly cares that she puts the kid in the middle, tells the child to ignore her mother… In the other videos, he lies, goes into rages, throws things, uses his fits to get out of his responsibilities. I just happened to be reading “Why Does He Do That?” and this man is textbook.
These parents are both horrible.
My heart hurts for that little girl.
These kids were abused by both parents. It’s so gross and I hope every child is given a true legal advocate and treatment team.unlike the F- ups they have been given so far. Damn. Over a darn chocolate.
K d,
Sign up for a family court nightmare. After 3 1/2 years, you too will be bouncing off walls, screaming at everyone and walking in circles. It wasn’t the parents. It wasn’t the children.
It was the wide-awake nightmare from hell called, “Family Court”.
So predictable. The instability was written all over her face, in that self-authored smear piece, in the manipulative suicide threat, in the claim of terminal cancer, and with the myriad of provoke and record clips she posted to adolescent tik tok. Pretty easy to figure out she was hiding a lot.
I gotta hand it to Catherine, she’s got some nerve. Trying to twist the truth and play the sympathy card? Yeah, nice try, but we’re not falling for it.
Catherine is a cunt.
Unfortunately, we have all been called that . Probably more than crazy. But thank you for shedding some light on it.
https://nypost.com/2023/06/18/former-aide-to-gov-kathy-hochul-ex-gov-andrew-cuomo-charged-with-dwi-in-upstate-wreck/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab
And another one………these are the mfers in our government 🙄 but you all keep worrying about disputes between divorcees just because it suits a manufactured agenda fueled by an angry, misled, mentally ill mob
This poor little girl. In all their videos their abuse seems to be hurled at their adoptive daughter. The amount of therapy that little girl is going to need is off the charts. Frankly neither of them should have custody of her. Yes it’s clear that Allen won the battle because of money but Catherine did NOTHING to help herself. She was more consumed with portraying herself as the perpetual victim than she was about her daughters and presenting herself as an emotionally stable human being. I was privy to her online presence. The minute you questioned whether she was going about this the right way even in a sensitive and respectful manner you were accused of “attacking a survivor of domestic abuse” and her legion of female groupies (some of which were Q’anon followers) would be unleashed and they got personal and vicious. She was also attacking his girlfriend online (way to establish yourself as an emotionally stable woman who has moved on with her life). Also it is absolute horse shit that she needed to “live out of her car”. She was waging expensive law suits and she had both friends and family with money. The reason she was getting kicked out is because she was violating court orders knowingly all because she knew the repercussions would play into her narrative of persecution. Her family is completely silent because they either 1) know her death is a hoax or 2) have been privy to some of her manipulation or erratic behavior, tried counseling her and because she is borderline she cut them off (or the reverse because they had had enough). The lack of recognition by them is the big elephant in the room and I’m pretty sure it’s not because they are monsters.
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This doesn’t prove that Allan wasn’t mentally ill. All these videos are showing me that Allan got custody because he was able to fund the custody battle. This unearthed a real conversation about the court system. This doesn’t make Marc Abrams any less of a slimeball to the other women he sexually harassed. It also doesn’t make the judges any less corrupt. Those poor girls may they be well.
5 judges and she went through 17 attorneys. Are they all part of the patriarchy conspiracy?
Numerous judges, doctors and others who didn’t agree with her stories, she retaliated against each person. Each claim was found to be baseless. Numerous visits from CPS, all dismissed. I don’t think he was without blame, but there is no way all of these people sworn to uphold their individual professional standards were all in some sort of fix to have it out for Katherine. Doesn’t add up.
Also, why buy a $900K home if you are going to kill yourself a couple weeks later?
This is not a shocker to women who have been through family court. The fatherhood initiative. Mothers are discriminated against. I had more than one lawyer. Had to fire them for withholding evidence to the court. Went through the courts appointed therapist. Never seen a more discusting display of power. When he was confronted by psychiatrist and social worker. He backed off. They would have tried to put another one on the case but the psychiatrist was well respected. The courts will label women anything with out proff. They claim alcoholism if you drink alcohol socially occasionally. They try to label you what ever they can. Men can be convicted of a crime, have a diagnosis of person disorder. The courts roll out the Red carpet. All that they are tossing at Catherine even dead is no shocker . None of it makes Allan a saint. If people can’t see that the rights of women are being taken away. Especially in the family courts you have been living under a rock. Don’t watch the laws being past. Wake up America!
2 attorneys vs. 17. I’m sorry you got railroaded.
Railroaded and the children were hurt. These courts need to be shut down and our government knows it.
1000% approve of this message. You just wrote my story in this comment.
The rights of woman being taken away? Interesting. I know all about family court and personally I have found them to be fair. By the time you have to go to family court, instead of settling things between the parents without the court, you have two people or maybe just one, who can not get past their hatred. Instead of working things out fairly between themselves, the crazier of the two will stop at nothing to win their case.
Yes they are. I’m assuming you are going to protect the court system because you profit off it. If you are dealing with an abusive spouse there is no working things out because they are entitled. Entitled to everything. Entitled to treat people what ever way they want. People should not have to tolerate being abused. They should not have to tolerate having their children abused. Used as leverage, held hostage. . I’m sure you know all about the fatherhood funding. The laws and agreements violating the civil rights of women in family law matters.
They are both bananas. Allen needs help.
Most importantly the children need help
It’s amazing to expose this
People who say it is not good to expose are numb skulls
“Why buy a $900K home if you are going to kill yourself a couple weeks later?” I assume even in the USA you can’t buy a house ‘off-the-shelf’ and move in that day, it takes 6 months or so to close the deal. It was Catherine’s legacy to her daughters to provide them with a safe haven when they reached adulthood. She didn’t kill herself, with terminal cancer she chose assisted dying to avoid friends and family seeing her go through the agonising final stages.
30 days for cash buyer. We can only assume she was planning to live in it until she wasn’t. Maybe mother’s day was the final straw. Why would it be insisted on for Catherine’s mother supervise if everyone knew the relationship was not in good standing? I think Catherine mental health was not good. How she got that way remain in debate.
not true and espically not true when dealing with all cash residential real estate purchases which this this was
When you pay with cash, the sale can go through very fast actually.
I think the purchase of the home just goes to show how truly unstable Catherine really was.
You may have missed my point. These officials have complaints from other litigants. My comment wasn’t picking a side.
The 17 lawyers for Catherine is a misnomer, and comparable two lawyers for Allan is also an incorrect statement.
The law firm that represented Allan had many lawyers work on his case, just under one roof. In fact, Gus had rotating associates come in and out of his firm over the last five years!
Catherine had a team of lawyers, including pro bono attorneys from Sanctuary for Families Sanctuary. All of Catherine’s attorneys from January 2020 and forward would acknowledge the wrongs of the decisions in Catherine’s case and also recognize the horrific and patheric conduct of Allan and Gus. The docket is clear, call them and you will find out.
Also, because Catherine was limited on funds and Allan was not required to pay her legal fees until more recently, Catherine was handling a lot of the legal work herself and/or providing substantial assistance to her counsel.
Also, you should talk with the Clinical Psychologist who testified at the hearing for Catherine and what his expert opinion was. Unlike the court appointed forensic, Catherine’s is a highly respected professional who is not only a treating psychologist, but also a professor at a very well respected university.
These are the points that need to be in Frank’s article!!!! They always create an illusion. Including these court appointed Merry band of custody flippers.
What it tells you is that Allan is not the villain here, it was two dysfunctional people, shocker! That’s why they got a divorce! and the lynch mob demanding his head on a platter is wrong. I hope Robbie Harvey rots in hell. And no, I do not know any of these people personally.
Robbie Harvey is a truly evil guy. Using a families private troubles for clicks… Shameful. I hope Frank doesnt keep going down this same road as he appears to be with the last few days of unvetted back and forth.
These kids will undoubtedly be scarred for life.
Frank is Allen his attorney or anyone associated with Allen paying you for the articles?
No neither is Catherine – or her friends – which I have also been accused of –
Thanks for the answer. Are they threatening law suit?
Trouble here is that Allan (and the family court system) is heartless, and yes, godless. The idea that a mother (not to mention a mother w/ cancer x 2!) should be deprived of motherhood, a mother who is fighting so hard for her kids? This is the pits of depravity. The same goes for fathers who fight hard to stay in their kids lives and are deprived of that role. It is unconscionable what cold-blooded family courts do to people.
You should read the court documents. It’s clear why she wasn’t awarded custody.
Crystal clear why this insane women was only allowed short, supervised visits that her children hated having to go to. These loons think children are possessions and they can abuse and mistreat them anyway they want, nobody is allowed to take away their “ownership”. Had Catherine had unsupervised access she would have probably murdered the children. Thankfully the courts kept her restrained enough that she had to settle with a fake suicide scheme. Her actual death would be too great a kindness for her children, husband, mother and brother. Catherine lives to a make others suffer.
Even the disgraced Dr Abrams did not see a need for supervised visits as Catherine posed no threat to her children.
From court record dated 2020-05-11:
“And all of those months later, ten months later, Dr. Abrams comes back, and that’s what’s most important here, Judge, that Dr. Abrams, the person who we were all to look to for his decision after his in depth analysis says that no supervision is needed of Miss Kassenoff. And that’s the most important issue that I think the Court has to focus on because Dr. Abrams was in possession of all of the information that Mr. Dimopoulos refers to when he made this determination”… Dr. Abrams still determined and opined in a thirty plus page report that no supervision is necessary.”
She is a fright!
Court documents are often altered. Often pieces missing. Running narratives
“a mother who is fighting so hard for her kids”
Please explain this to me:
If a mother is fighting so hard for her kids, why won’t she just follow a court order? Does she really think that attacking everyone and violating court orders is the way to get custody? it appears that she’s more interested in exacting revenge on people than actually having custody.
It’s like if you are failing out of school, and you say oh my God I am fighting so hard to stay in school, but all you are doing is enacting an online smear campaign against the administration and the teachers, even the janitor, instead of actually turning in an assignment on time.
Exactly. To Catherine and her little band of followers, “fighting for my children” means showing up places you’re not legally allowed to be, trying to turn the kids against their father, smearing everyone involved in the cases on social media, and not showing up for supervised visits (or spending visits railing against their father and the system). It doesn’t include listening to your attorneys, complying with laws and court orders, or putting the needs of your children above your desperate need for vengeance.
THIS RIGHT HERE! ^^^^^^^ Thank you for saying this 10:54
louder.
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Mothers that really love there kids let there kids know about there alleged death from Facebook and with our saying good bye don’t you know that
WHY DID THEY NOT GET A DIVORCE?! INSANITY AND THESE POOR DAUGHTERS. FOR THOSE DEFENDING CATHERINE AND FOCUSED ON EVISCERATING ALLAN AND HIS “GF” GET A LIFE AND STOP PUTTING YOUR HATRED FROM YOUR OWN TRAGEDIES ONTO THESE CHILDREN WHO HAVE TO LIVE THIS AND SEE THIS!
The audio that was posted about their fight in the comments. Is so unstable and she admits she is out of control. Why didn’t they just get a divorce like civilized people?!?
Daddy should not be allowing these kids on social media. This is about ripping down a system that should have never been allowed to get to this point. The only reason anyone cares about the girlfriend is because of her actions in making a bad situation worse. A real man would not have allowed this. He joined her in the battle. For what? To win at all costs.
The oldest girl is 13, I believe. Her classmates are probably sending her the stuff, and you know all of them have seen it. Same with the 12 year old.
No, it is tragic that Catherine would not get the psychiatric help she needs.
Catherine’s desperate attempt to damage Allan’s rep by portraying herself as the victim is just sad. It’s clear she’s grasping at straws, and it’s not fooling anyone
Look at the chiropractor in Connecticut. All 6 kids claim he was an abuser . He paid to have arrest go away. He’s on his what 5 the or 6th volpe article. Wanting the evil wife brought back from Florida. To be burned at the stake in front of the court house.
She had a psychologist who said she was sane. It is only the court one who said that some unspecified problems.
Can we just start calling Cathy mommy dearest? What a complete and total abusive psycho this evil woman is. Dragging a child out of bed to berate and scream her for eating chocolate. Wtf. Anyone who could defend this behavior is as crazy and evil as Catherine
Have you seen Allen’s videthos? The spin team
It’s honorable and fair to publish both sides. The truth is always fair and no doubt Frank Parlato will unravel the truth.
Excellent example of DARVO.
But in a vacuum it’s hard to see. This is what abusers count on.
The calm, cool, calculated demeanor of Allen is a show. But time will tell. In the end the truth will be known, but the cost is the lives of five family members.
These tragedies are the result of a corrupt court system. One that Allen used to his advantage, but in the end, he destroyed himself and the court actors have huge bank and zero accountability.
This is what the court appointed experts and lawyers count on- they drive wealthy families to the point of despair and destruction and then say, “it was a high conflict case… nothing we could do. They arrived to court this way.”
“Excellent example of DARVO.
But in a vacuum it’s hard to see. This is what abusers LIKE CATHERINE count on.”
Hi yoga lady
YES, they LITERALLY PRE-EMPT any possible defense by reversing the roles so the truth is never believed…..
They are both horrible parents who do not deserve these kids. They are going to need serious therapy to have any chance at a normal life. I’m so sorry for Catherine’s illness and death. It will just add to the trauma they will have to overcome. No matter how anyone feels about him, he is all they have.
Whatever happened between these two parents was fueled by the corrupt family court system.
As with the Dulos case, the underlying issues were exacerbated and then a custody evaluation b a non-medical provider, suggested Jen Dulos was crazy.
The put this fraudulent report “under seal” to protect the court scam and allow the custody evaluator to hide is fraud and malpractice.
The system makes parents crazy because they are gaslit by psychologists and court appointed experts.
These kids have suffered at the hands of the court.
this new crowd of commenters here on FR are totally different than the NXIVM crowd and I kind of like it.
That said, some of the comments sound like first hand knowledge which now has me leaning toward she is in fact alive and here with us 🤔
If I’m right, intellectually she has played a magnificent game of chess, a la war of the roses 🌹
If I’m wrong, I regret my speculation as it would be a too tragic of an ending to this saga manufactured by Family Courts. I’ll never understand the concept of involving the government in my personal life and do not understand the concept (and universal buy in) of a ‘marriage license’. 🤦♂️
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In the Kassenoff case, did Allan “gaslight” Catherine?
Both parents were stressed out.
Question: Why were they so stressed out?
Both yelled and lost control of their emotions.
Question: Why did each lose control of their emotions?
Did Allan gaslight Catherine to make her crazy? To taunt her? Because he hated her? For evidence in “family court”?
Do family courts gaslight parents and children?
Question: Why was everyone in the Kassenoff family so stressed out?
Do the powers-that-be gaslight us all?
Question: Who actually controls American “family courts”?
Did Allan undermine Catherine’s parenting on purpose? Why did he film Catherine? And, the date of that recording?
In the audio, Catherine was obviously trying her best to teach her child that ever-important lesson about stealing and lying. She clearly loved her child very much. She clearly felt strongly about the need to teach her child that important lesson at that point in time. Why did Allan question Catherine instead of questioning his child?
Anger shows up when things don’t go according to plan.
Question: What made Catherine so angry? Was Catherine angry about her child misbehaving or was Catherine angry about Allan undermining her parental authority. Was she angry about what she perceived to be Allan’s lack of morals?
It seems Catherine was mostly angry about Allan’s affair and his lack of parenting. If Allan first undermined Catherine’s parenting and then recorded her reaction to take her children from her, that’s sinister. It’s what the worst “family court” lawyers do to protective parents. By the way, it’s also what Lord Mark Malloch Brown and his friends did to America on November 3rd and January 6th.
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As President Joe Biden would say: God save the queen, man.
I’ve got 50 bucks the dog ate it and $100 Catherine ate the chocolate.
People digging in their heels and defending this lady. Please. It’s been so obvious from the beginning this whole thing is fabricated. The real victims are their children and parents who’ve unjustly lost their children to the court system. I’d think twice before making her your “poster child.”
Allan and girlfriend are not innocent. We know the truth. Frank look at the evidence
A sad tragic story.
Two dysfunctional parents.
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Now let’s be honest – who out there hasn’t had their parents sometimes overreact to shit?!? Act crazy?
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We don’t know how the parents in question PARENT the other 99% of the time.
Anyone that can defend dragging a child out of bed to shriek and scream about “mommy’s chocolate” needs to be institutionalized along with Crazy Cathy. That audio just demonstrates a mentally ill, drunk woman abusing her kid for enjoyment.
Spiin team hi Shira
Hi […]. The child was not sleeping. It was not about the chocolate. She definitely loosing it. Cause Allan drove her to the edge. Have you ever watched gaslight?
The Truth-
I’m not saying to “excuse their abuse and behavior”.
Regarding the recordings:
The courts will not remove children based on any of those recordings.
BTW:
If your parents never lost their shit on “you” occasionally – good for you.
Catherine projects her bad behavior onto Allan and her children. Here we are again with her calling the child a liar. This chocolate bar issue could have been dealt rationally in the morning. We can hear the young girls exhaustion. I like that Allan was trying to calm his daughter down. Gus should leak more videos.
Can a psychologist or psychiatrist who is not AFCC or involved in family court explain what happens to a person man or woman when they have endured narrsatic abuse. Call or email. Frank can publish anonymously if needed. I think it would help put things in perspective. There are judges on here. I think they would greatly benefit from it.
All of this is just tragic. There are no winners here, just suffering, especially for those children. I truly pray for peace for all of these people.
DCF should get involved
False reporting is illegal. These children DO NOT belong to the public
Nope. The courts are responsible for their well being. They failed. Let them be in the middle of a toxic shit storm. Greed and harmful mud slinging battle. Sad state of affairs. Healthy marriage? Responsible fatherhood? Both guilty of bad behavior. Children tangled up and treated as property.
I said it on the stand on June 9 2023 in Boulder County Colorado and I’ll say it again the family court system is one of the most negative, nasty and conflict inducing industries that exploit famalies and children. The family courts tale away college funds which were forced to pay to say called experts. The family court system is part of the problem and hardly a solution especially when your physically ill. This system rewards children to those that have no empathy, no bonds or attachments. Even if you enter the system system kind and loving you will come out an animal when they finally break you .
This is a dysfunctional house hold. The. Marital problems have poisoned the house hold. Had they split up earlier would they both been better parents? When you have two parents using a child to hurt one another. They are both guilty. They are not able to parent and playing good parent bad parent. The house hold should have split up and staying and fighting over the house and money. Leads to this. Let it be a lesson to the courts not to drag things out and force people to live together. No one should have to wait years in the same house for the courts to make a separation agreement. Lawyers stop telling your clients to remain in the house. Seperate these people as soon as possible.
Thank you, Frank and Janine, for your extraordinary dedication to this tragic story, which I have been following very closely. May I humbly add a few points and some reflection? I had listened twice to the audio a few hours ago when I had seen it as a link on another article in FR. I feel great pain for Ally who succumbed to a child’s natural need for a chocolate candy bar only to have it turned into a lesson in morality when she should have been asleep in bed. In truth, the child’s consumption of a chocolate bar should not have occasioned a reprimand from her mother, but there is a much bigger picture that cannot be overlooked either. To wit, at the very end of the tape, which I didn’t see in this transcription, but I had heard it when listening to the tape linked in the prior FR story, was Catherine’s statement that she was in much physical pain from several finger nails broken to the quick and hanging off her fingers. She stated, if I heard correctly, that it was from the fight they had the day before. Thus, if that is correct, here you have a woman in physical pain, in the aftermath of a nasty physical fight with her husband. You also have a woman in emotional pain whose repetitive use of the word “moral” resonates her deep feelings of abandonment and devaluation of having been cheated on in her marriage. Yes, yes, I know she had her own affair so it goes both ways. But at that moment she is deflecting her psychic pain of abandonment to her child by taking ordinary behavior to which she has superimposed a “moral” attribute, no doubt a veiled strike at her husband’s behavior and her feelings of deep abandonment. This was marriage gone bad no doubt. And I do feel for Allan too because he showed pain in the videos. I feel for the parents and the children. Scolding of Ally which is uncalled for and painful to witness in the audio needs also to be looked at within context. I believe the child’s therapist recommended a “therapeutic” boarding school under the school district even though the girl was already out of Catherine’s custody for around three years. So, it appears there were issues with this child. We all come into this world with unique personalities and it’s a miracle when it works out seamlessly in a family. Ironically, I see a silver lining here. That is, I have a prescient feeling that all these audios and videos of KvK (Kassenoff versus Kassenoff) are going to be used as class material for years to come so that students of family law, psychology, sociology, and women’s studies will be able to analyze and deconstruct the dynamics of dysfunctional and strained family relations vis-a-vis the omnipresent threat of CPS and family court horrors. The Kassenoffs have in an unexpected way added vital material for the study of family dynamics. Frank Parlato has contributed admirably to the offering of such vital study material by his diligence in curating these materials. Please God let there be healing for everyone involved and much greater insight and wisdom gained from allowing us to share in this painful drama. Thank you, Frank and Janine, and to Alan and Catherine, for making these materials available to the public. It required courage.
Amy Neustein, Ph.D.
Fort Lee, NJ
This video brought me back to my terrorized childhood. Catherine’s maniacal shrieking and abusive berating brought me right back. Except, I was assaulted while verbally, emotionally, and psychologically terrorized. I know what I see. And her blind supporters can eat a bag of 🍆 ‘s
I agree. Her attempts to play the victim and tarnish Allan’s rep totally backfired. She’s just digging herself a deeper hole, and it’s pathetic, to be honest.
Dear Dr. Neustein,
I awakened to find your comment, and took my first deep breathe since Frank first wrote of KvK (thanks for that acronym). Am I correct that you practice clinical psychology? Or, are you an academic?
In either event, would you interested in having a conversation with me for publication here in FR?
I could not agree with your assessment more: this is a tragedy no matter how one assesses it and ripe for future examination in a host of disciplines.
I took my undergraduate degree in Sociology with an emphasis in Political Science from Yale and my MPH from Columbia Mailman School of Public Health, and have a couple law degrees and have been a licensed Member of the New Jersey Bar for twenty-eight years.
I’m also the victim of ongoing malignant narcissism issued up by family as I seek to protect my 94 yo Mama; my abusers are attempting to wrest my Exclusive Medical Durable POA as delegated me by my fully sentient Mama (at time of delegation and presently). They have nearly unlimited resources to harness and use against me and her.
This is Elder Abuse of the first order perpetrated against me and Mama by those conspiring with my abusers, including the facilities and the government actors (the Ombudsman for these facilities) who allowed my Mama to be wrested from my care, and fall to imminent death as a functional quadriplegic having withered down fifty-odd pounds in, frankly, a hunger strike of fury, its being her sole avenue of expression of her rage.
Fortunately, I have been able to help her redirect her rage, and have gotten her to start eating, and have forced them away from their designated hospice intentions, and now have a swallowing therapist in working with her five times a week. She has regained weight, and is no longer at risk for an eminent cardiogenic event that would take her Life.
Perhaps my emotion overtakes me as I tell you: the fact that you are New Jersey-based, and that New Jersey is the state to confer permission for me to practice law?
I believe the girls ARE sleeping, which Frank should be doing also, but instead he cleared for publication both of our comments, which have posted functionally in tandem.
My email is stephanie@geeknerdwonk.com. My LinkedIn is http://linkedin.com/in/stephanieaustinjones It is not updated to include my work with Frank, since November 2022, but it will confirm who I am.
May we connect for a conversation that we will provide to Frank? No time like the present for that prescience of yours to be realized.
I’m going to go back to sleep for a while now, and hope when I awaken Ill hear from you.
As Bartlett on The West Wing says? “What’s Next?” What’s Next is we start NOW to systematically deconstruct (with solid qualitative study methodology) the subject areas in which we need insight from experts in (off the top of my head), Gender Studies, Family Systems, Personality Disorders, Professional Practice.
On the last? Off the top of my head, I’d like to pull in Toni Jaeger-Fine, a Dean at Fordham, internationally known author and speaker, and Johanna Wise, of Connect Work Thrive, which serves women, primarily, in times of career transition. Toni was my Dean during my LL.M., my beloved beloved friend, and JoHanna a personal friend-turned-Mentor, both of them in my Inner Sanctum.
Both could identify for us the impact of the respective professional roles Catherine and Allan enjoyed, or did not enjoy, over these years from pre-divorce to present require additional focused study. That implicate that which the audio and video tapes contain.
And as to me? Boy, do I have a story to tell. Frank has directed me to write on the filth of Elder Abuse in California, and honestly? I have not known where to begin.
And I believe that’s because I know that where I have to begin is in sorting out the dynamics here that Catherine lived or is living in order to deconstruct those acting on me and on Mama. And I can’t do that without help.
I would like to ask for your help for Catherine’s sake, for my sake, for my mothers sake, and for the children’s sake.
Would you please get in touch with me? Frank, please give Dr. Neustein my phone number.
God bless.
God IS blessing us.
Let’s roll.
HAPPY FATHER’S DAY FRANK. I LOVE YOU AND RESPECT THE FUCKING HELL OUT OF YOU.
Scolding of Ally is for LYING, not for eating chocolate. It appears that Ally had a huge problem with lying. Lying is a big deal and certainly warrants discipline, which Catherine was haplessly trying to impose. The chocolate is not the problem.
Your RIGHT the chocolate isn’t the problem. The problem is waking up a child at night to yell at them over it. From the audio you can tell she wasn’t mad that she had just eaten any candy bar she was furious because she ate the one SHE WANTED which is even more childish behavior then a child eating it in the first place only a crazy person reacts like that to a child eating there food.
no wonder these kids have eating disorders
No one ever said they had an eating disorder. Why do you say that?
Yeah, I wonder where she learned to lie?
Allan
Well, she woke the girl up because the chocolate was missing. Then, when the child was questioned, the child denied eating the chocolate, and that’s when the lying accusation started. so she WAS dragged out of bed because of allegedly eating Catherine’s chocolate.
She was not sleeping. She was in her room. Allan drove her crazy
Then get an effing divorce. She was intelligent with no “mental health “ so then maybe she could have made a sound decision than Allan. No because she also participated and liked control and abuse too
Even if that was true, it doesn’t justify abusing your child. Acting like this was fine because “her husband drove her crazy” is pathetic. She was a grown woman in control of her actions, and she CHOSE to terrorize a child over a chocolate bar. Reprehensible.
Catherine told this daughter that she should go back to her family in florida who didn’t want her. Pitted the oldest against the youngest two. This poor child may never recover. “lying” is the least of her issues.
Thank you for your insight. I think this family needed a lot of help and, unfortunately, it feels like the lawyers, and therapists, who in my opinion as a former social worker, were not competent to evaluate custody or best interests of the children. They may have done it for years, but you would truly have to work with children in the foster care system to understand what trauma a severed attachment to a parent can cause. Furthermore, the goal should be to reunify and it appears that this was not a treatment goal in the end.
I really appreciate you saying that this truly unfortunate case can serve as a case study to do better for families embroiled in the family court system. Having had experience in the family court system myself, I have seen first hand how little the lawyers seem to understand the effects of their actions on the children.
Is there mandated training for family court? Why are attorneys always the GALs? Why not social workers, who are far more equipped to manage the family dynamics? I’m not talking DCF workers or opening a case, but someone who has advanced training and experience working with family systems, trauma, problems with attachments, etc. Social workers also have broader experience and focus less on psychopathology and more on biopsychosocial determinants of physical and mental health. I left the field because of the lack of support and respect, but this case really demonstrates how ill equipped both the parents and professionals were to manage these family dynamics.
The poor children deserve all of our grace, support and empathy.
Parents and advocates around the world curated these materials after Catherine wrote:
“All my materials in support of what I write above are available at this link, which I urge you to share everywhere before Allan finds a way to shut down this Facebook page. Please don’t let the world or my children forget the real Allan, who appears on dozens of videos I have posted here on Facebook.
Please preserve them for my children when they are ready to remember and learn the truth about him.
Please stand up against abusers like this who enjoy tormenting others. For the sake of my children and other mothers who live through this terror of domestic abuse, I ask that you please keep telling my story so that the truth is known far and wide:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/o4gbiq9vqdxkt7o0sxvxb/h?dl=0&fbclid=IwAR1TuJPgbiaNXfOHpweHMzLcDUjDhq2eC7XDmTxzCVUyw37IP6OgAZSlqto&rlkey=eb640eoezploh3qk4z41jtek2 …”
No Catherine, you’re rather arrogant to believe that you abusing your husband and children, and being a lying lunatic, will “change family courts around the world”….and you had no problem with the system when you were at the top of the heap making your living from it. If anything, you’re further proof that NYS hires lunatics, and puts them in power positions. You’re appalling and sick.
#wearenotCatherineKassenoff
Ms. Insane Special Counsel on an ethics committee 👏
😞get help Bitch
“Autumn Rose in New York”,
my name isn’t Catherine.
Just to be clear, did Catherine mention a physical fight between the parents in this audio? I remember hearing a discussion to that effect in one of the recordings linked on the “Kassenoff Facts” website — https://www.kassenofffacts.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Audio40.m4a — which begins with Catherine saying that a physical fight between them caused her nails to bleed. That definitely provides some context. Even if Allan didn’t physically attack her to cause those injuries, he should not have engaged her physically at all. But by the same token Catherine was being “de facto” violent to the child in this current audio about the chocolate bar: shouting like that is usually, I think, basically a substitute for hitting someone, and is intended to be experienced by the other person as a show of strength akin to actual violence. It’s not about “educating” a child about “morals”.
I used to be a grade school teacher. If one child stole another’s toy, say, we would try to bring out the kid’s empathy for their peers, something like “that was her favorite toy, and she’s sad now …” — encourage them to think from the perspective of the other person. But you have to model that attitude at the same time, and shouting/violence indicates the opposite, because it’s basically self-centered, like, “you made ME angry”. Rule of thumb: if you’re trying to “teach” right and wrong try to avoid the words “I” and “me”!
Having said that, if Catherine experienced violence or abusive behavior in that home then it’s harder to sustain that principle. People tend to be self-centered when they’re scared!
You have really amazing ears Catherine. Every time there’s a video of Crazy Catherine abusing people you magically think some physical aliment excuses the behavior. Given the scale you are using cancer patients could be serial killers and patted on the back for it. Hangnails are a perfectly good reason to yank a small child out of bed and scream and berate her for “eating mommy dearest’s chocolate” until she’s a sobbing mass of tears. Catherine had to beat her daughter because she stubbed her toe. Poor Crazy Cathy had an owie so everyone must suffer now!! Totally reasonable.
Krista Regedanz, Ph.D, Licensed Psychologist
Palo Alto, CA
This is wildly upsetting.
These children oh dear God these children.
Observations
1. Both use bizarre pronoun tenses that suggest performances.
2. Calming moments seem more performative and calculated than the high level moments of hysteria. There is a reason that an “excited utterance” is an exception to exclusions as hearsay, and this tape bears that out.
3. I wonder why more (perhaps I have missed it) has not been discussed about alcohol. I watched the video of Catherine at the table (she on left side of frame, there may be other videos I have not seen), and a bottle of wine was close to her. The following remarks are based upon a presumption that she had or was having wine. Not a comment on how much, but on having any.
I’m not going to launch into a discussion in depth of alcohol except to note: there is nothing “moderate” or “social” about taking alcohol during such a situation as captured. (One indeed takes the neurotoxic drug EtOH, its delivery is in liquid form).
My background is both trained and lived experience. I was the researcher and first manuscript drafter for a book entitled The Science of Addiction: From Neurobiology to Treatment, by Carlton T. Erickson, PhD. I have extensive academic training in alcohol abuse, addiction, neuroscience, two certificates from the Rutger School of Drug and Alcohol (what a redundancy) Studies, as well as conference attendance in the Neurobiology of alcohol. I arrested my own alcoholism in 1996 with the assistance of AA, only to find it a shunning and shaming Cult. I am a proponent of harm reduction.
I do not in my wildest constructions conclude alcoholism is a disease. I subscribe without exception to the work of Gabor Mate, MD whose life’s work is in trauma, and I agree that addictive behavior of any sort is a trauma response.
I wonder if tapes were made whenever Catherine was drinking perhaps knowing that baiting a woman compromised by alcohol gives rise to explosive behavior (horrible horrible behavior).
i’m not saying she drinks / drank “too much;” I am saying that to drink in these circumstances demonstrates a self-centered reach for comfort over primacy of concern that she stay painfully, fully sentient to marshall all possible strength to defend her daughters against this monstrous man. And she either cannot do that – or she did not do that, if she drank at the times of these episodes.
Finally:,There is a Facebook Group entitled Justice for Catherine Youseff Kassenhoff. A post I sent earlier to Frank comments on the fact that another poster in the group stated that News Nation had confirmed Catherine’s death. I sent screenshots to Frank that I was unable to find any verification on any news wire of her death being confirmed through authoritative channels.
I know that if such confirmation exists, Frank would find this and publish this first.
I pray that God grants these three little ones dreamless nights of sleep.
Thank you for publishing this.
Stephanie,
If you feel comfortable sharing the information, what happened?
Do you need help?
https://www.tiktok.com/@quoteautistic/video/7185248887828008238?is_from_webapp=1&web_id=7246038456221763118
Try again. This piece of shit “father” is innocently mentioning to the kid that her mother wants to return her to Florida. Ally is lying and her mother is trying to deal with it. Allen is undermining her every step of the way.
Regina this is excessive over chocolate? I cringe as it reminds me of my stepmother. There’s way to have conversations and this is NOT it! They both need parenting help and mental therapy. No sorry it’s NOT. Poor mommy dearest. I believe she told her adopted daughter she would return her and I believe Allan called her retarded. POOR KIDS. but now she’s “dead” who knows you want the kids to be in foster homes?!? Great solution. Humans annoy me
The issue is not the chocolate but the daughter’s persistent problem with lying. Lying is a huge deal, yes. It appears that Ally had a huge problem with lying. This video has nothing on what we’ve seen of Allan.
Regina sounds like Allys parents. They called her a liar too without proof.
You sound like you totally missed the point here.
I endured this over false accusations of stealing ice cream, after being deliberately starved. My disease was kept a secret. Turns out it’s all nutrient malabsorption based. She was literally trying to kill me from 12 months of age and onward. Noone listened to me. I was hung with a steel dog chain at aged 10 as a result. Then, begged to keep quiet, and kept home from school to hide the horrific bruising. I only didn’t die because my younger brother dove st her and bit her. I was slammed on the floor. Woken with ice water poured over me. She then went into court reporting. The day she got her steno tripod, was the day she started bludgeoning me with it. She actually brought thar same weapon into every local courtroom she worked in “freelance”. At 17 she smashed my front teeth out with it. Nobody EVER gave a fuck. I’m 46 now. You CAN overcome it if your 💪 strong. My heart bleeds for those girls. YOU CAN OVERCOME THIS GIRLS ❤️
This woman is f’n NUTS. And abusive.
Hi, yoga girl
This little girl is caught between the two of them warring. But this tape, in isolation, does not change my judgment that the mom here is a protective parent, yes unhinged, but trying to parent a child, and being undermined by her husband. He may have sincerely believed he was trying to protect his kid, but what he was really doing was robbing her mother of her role as mother, a mother with high concerns about her daughter’s behaviors, and that is unconscionable.
As for Katherine’s unhingedness, she is definitely very emotional here, I think she feels she is dealing with a situation that calls for yelling, to get the child to see how serious her behaviors are. She is also under stress of a father who seems hellbent on undermining her as mother, which compounds her emotion. I empathize with this mother. What a terrible person to do this to the mother of his children. He had other paths, he chose to destroy her.
For the love of God. Two sides and the other one is coming out. Inexcusable torture. She was no saint and yes people lose their cool. I had a stepmother like this that would berate and talk like this exhaustively, it terrorized me.
I think the morals focus and the telling statement of the kids being screwed up. The actions of both parents and the infidelity. A piss poor example. This is another reason you don’t engage your new relationship in the mix. As well as the custody battle. Alcohol use never helps. Nobody can tell weather it was Allan or Catherine who was drinking the wine. It happened to be left on the table. Could have been both .
Yes, protective of her chocolate bar.
Hi yoga girlfriend
Is your brain that ducking tiny that every single person on the entirety of the Internet a post opinion that is different from the factually wrong and libelous one you have in your head is the girlfriend or Allan. You are my idiot of the day on the Internet kudos to you winner winner
And? So what plenty of people lose their cool, thats nothing, and Allan was just as bad, how did he get custody and her only Supervise Visitation?
Because Allan did not rage and verbally abuse the children, Catherine did. No wonder Allan lobbed insults at Catherine after they way she abuses their children. Taste of her own medicine. What an awful, petty, terrible woman. She seems to relish making her children cry and plead.
You must not have seen the videos of Allan interacting with his children.
Spiin team
Why? For starters, because it was revealed Catherine planned to coerce her daughter to lie and accuse Allan of false abuse, as shown clearly in the texts between Catherine and her friend. Forcing a child to lie and make up false abuse accusations is child abuse in itself.
3:05,
“It was revealed …” Did it appear out of thin air?
“Catherine planned …” Looks like third person omniscient narration in a mystery novel. How do you know what she planned? Did she tell you?
“As shown clearly in the texts …” What texts? What’s clear?
“To coerce … forcing … and make up accusations” — lots of drama in that writing and coercive control, too.
“It was revealed …” Did it appear out of thin air?”
No. Her text messages revealed it, and the court deemed them serious and threatening enough to grant temp custody to the father. The same applies to “Catherine planned” it was in black and white in her text messages. The court saw those messages and they were undeniably written by Catherine to her friend.
“ As shown clearly in the texts …” What texts? What’s clear?”
See above.
Clearly you didn’t read any of the court documents that have been made public.
8:29,
Again, more general comments seem to want to convince more than inform. To coerce rather than to share information. What about providing one specific example — or two or however many you referenced. Just copy and paste. It’s not difficult.
“Her text messages revealed it” Date? Specific content?
“the court deemed them serious and threatening enough” Deemed what?
👉 How did “temporary custody to the father” turn into 3 1/2 years of extreme alienation from their mother?
Again, what “was in black and white in her text messages”?
“The court saw those messages” What messages?
“they were undeniably written by Catherine to her friend” Which friend?
Which friend? Asking that question proves you didn’t read the publicly available documents. The friend is named there. Go to the publicly available Google Drive and you’ll find it. I’m not here to do grunt work for lazy people.
“ How did “temporary custody to the father” turn into 3 1/2 years of extreme alienation from their mother?”
Because Catherine went psycho and plotted to kidnap the kids but her plot was uncovered and foiled, for one.
Mother’s are always considered a threat. alienator per the fatherhood initiative. Anytime there is a relationship issue with Dad. If the relationship issue is with Mom. She crazy. Billions of dollars all over the country. Children are the father’s property.