By Shadow State
This is in response to Study of Evil: Ghislane Maxwell Maxwell Has the Aura of a Raptor Who Mutated Into a Sexual Cannibal by Shivani.
A number of points for Shivani:
Shivani writes, “Please don’t forget the nude jogging oddball of Martha’s Vineyard, eighty year-old Alan Dershowitz.”
Shivani, why don’t you mention the fact that the oddball Dershowitz is a “respected” professor at Harvard Law School?
What does it say that Harvard University would have a scumbag like Alan Dershowitz on the faculty? Dershowitz claimed that he consulted with college dropout Jeffrey Epstein in writing 20 books. What would a college drop out like Epstein have to tell Harvard Law Professor Dershowitz about the law?
How to beat a child molestation rap?
Shivani, do you happen to be a student or graduate of Harvard? When I went to college I found that every professor who was from Harvard, with one exception, was an arrogant jerk.
Shivani writes: “The worst Epstein and Maxwell concerns would be aimed at whatever has not come to light yet,”
What has not fully come to light yet is that Epstein and Maxwell were engaged in blackmail and espionage. Maxwell’s father was a Mossad agent who looted his company’s pension fund before he conveniently died.
America faces the horrible possibility that top government and corporate officials were being blackmailed by a foreign country for pedophilia.
Shivani writes, “The British pervert, Jimmy Savile, was said to be a necrophiliac who preferred having at dead boys, especially out on the water on a fine yacht. ”
The story is that British Prime Minister Edward Heath would take boys out in his yacht for sex. One boy threatened to tell and Heath had the boy tossed into the sea to drown.
The police were able to confirm the pedophilia but not the murder.
As for Savile, he would indeed brag about necrophilia and because he was in with the Royal Family no one could touch him.
Shivani writes, “Maxwell’s face. Indifference is coming out of her pores”
Shivani, read the testimony of Jaye and Nicole concerning Allison Mack. Allison Mack preached female empowerment but did not give a rat’s ass when these women wanted to control their own sex lives. Mack considered them to be selfish for wanting their own boyfriends.
And let me tell you, Shivani, give Allison a few more years of pimping and extortion and she would be every bit as cruel and heartless as Maxwell.
POWER IS ADDICTING
POWER IS AN APHRODISIAC.
And Allison, knowing full well that Raniere is a pedophile, covered up for him when confronted with the fact.
Allison Mack is more than stupid.
Allison Mack is complicit.
As for Ghislaine and Jeffrey’s Devil worship. in 2018, just before Raniere was arrested, Allison Mack posted a picture of the Spirit Cooking Devil Worshiper Maria Abramovic.
Was Allison, who borrows from every religion in search for Salvation, trying to get help from Satan?
Alison Mack’s Instagram [IG] account.
It’s Marina Abramovic, who calls herself a performance artist. Her art involves spilling of blood and other odd displays, some of which have been connected to events held by Hollywood stars.
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Mack had means, and opportunity, at the outset to remove herself from this cult.
After a period of time, and with her eyes wide open, she chose to stay and became an active participant.
Therefor I have no sympathy for her.
I know I was able to distance myself from the cult I was in and,yes, it wasn’t easy emotionally. Many a night, I broke down in tears, sobbing, yet I never regretted leaving.
I did make a visit to my once area leader a few years later.
I only noted, because in retelling the visit this past year, someone pointed out to me how I was not invited inside when once I was a welcome guest.
We sat on the stoop.
It quickly became about how she felt betrayed, hurt, by those she once considered good friends and badtions of the cult. Not meaning myself but others whom she did not name, as I recall, but whom I easily assumed.
She commented how I had changed yet never said in what way.
See, one can leave. One can take hold of ones core values, if one has any and up and leave.
Allison had 8 million dollars and a career and fan base. Whether she possessed any decent core values we will never know.
Perhaps this is who Allison was all along, a person without right and wrong but instead Crowley like “what thou wilt.”.
Leopards do not change their spots. About 15 or so years later I found my ex area leader online and sent off an email.
Yep, it was her but nothing changed. The same old cult lies. Stupidly I thought we had also had a friendship. When I brought that up her reply was she could only offer me God.
Same old same old.
It had nothing to do with God. It’s still money, power and sex.
On that I state Allison had means and opportunity and chose to stay because she is, and always will be, morally bankrupt.
Should you think I am wrong I say you befriend her. I predict you will do so to your detriment.
Besides, there are 7 billion others to choose from. Bwtter pick one without her history.
Raniere manipulated and controlled people, stripped them of their free will in the same way Shadowstate using the same hypnotic suggestion and mind control manipulates those here into reading his every post about Mack and then complaining about and to Frank Parlato, obsessing about what they view as obsession and demanding he stop and change his opinion and think as they do.
If he wants to view Mack as #2 just as the government described her that is his prerogative just as its Parlato’s to print it and the peanut gallery to ridicule him for it.
I worry less about Shadowstate than some of the paranoid ramblings of Manchurian type suicides, nefarious targeting by the deep state, federal and state governments and agents in LEO all around the country directed at named and anonymous posters here who’s lives are being turned upside down because of some vendetta directed at them because of their minimal involvement in speaking against this legend in their own minds cult.
What damage was done by these idiots was the result of backing by the wealthy heiresses not any actual power and influence of NXIVM or Raniere. There’s no army of police politicians and judges doing their bidding.
Keith ran and hid from Dani not once but twice but this is the same guy that can get in your head if you dare be alone with him and you lose the concept of time, do things that every fiber of your being knows to be wrong and the ever present danger you might be subliminally ordered to ctrl-alt- del yourself.
Shadowstate is at least consistent. He doesn’t view NXIVM as buffoons and one of mankind’s biggest threats simultaneously
You are absolutely correct in all you say, and hey, it is not like Shadow is the first man to be made a fool of because of his unreciprocated feelings about a much younger woman.
If you can not see that is what is behind all of Shadow’s bluster, I am assuming corduroy is your favorite color?
Raniere manipulated and controlled people, stripped them of their free will in the same way Shadowstate using the same hypnotic suggestion and mind control manipulates those here into reading his every post about Mack
“I Command Thee!”
“Read and Believe.”
“Read and Believe.”
“Read and Believe!”
Raniere at least exerted undue influence over people, using a bag of tricks that included everything from “love bombing” to social coercion, sleep and food deprivation, and even the suggestive or hypnotic techniques of NLP.
That, for example, is what the techniques of human trafficking are all about – getting victims to do things they would not have done otherwise, without actually holding a gun to their head.
I think it’s uncomfortable for us to realize that we might not always be fully in control of our lives, but it has to be recognized that at least a minority of people are particularly susceptible to manipulation.
Mr. Shadow, you are really slipping, “Evil Woman: Allison Mack Would Have Been as Cruel and Heartless as Ghislaine Maxwell Had She Not Been Arrested” No no no, Mack would have been FAR more cruel and heartless as Ghislaine Maxwell….
Why didn’t she do the branding herself?
I see two probable reasons:
1. The Dodgy Doctor was so keen to do it that she insisted.
2. Mack wanted a little distance so that she could revel in the marvellous spectacle before her.
It could be both, of course.
Its hard to be sure with perverts.
Or , if you stick by the fact :
Because it was never her idea nor her decision to make…
She wasn’t branding anyone.
I remind that Sarah edmondson said that Lauren was the one at her branding ceremony…not Allison.
But you are ,like Always , oblivious to reality,facts and Truth…
What is your purpose here (except be a troll)? You obviously know nothing about this case at all.
You’re omitting the inconvenient fact that Edmondson said that “the actual branding itself was in Alison Mack’s home” – and as Lauren Salzman testified, hers was also. Mack’s residence was branding central, and she oversaw many of the ceremonies there, if not that particular one.
We will probably find out a lot more when Edmondson’s book comes out, and revelations of what went on are likely to demonstrate more clearly Mack’s depth of involvement.
I’m omitting Something that she believes and stick to the fact…
First off, she said that it happened in a place she didn’t know about but then changed it (after others pretended it happened there) and pretended she recognized Allison perfume (a perfume that many girls have) and a carpet…all this while it was dark inside the house (candlelit only)
I call BS…
Secondly, the branding couldn’t have occured in a condo or the other house Allison own…
It’s stupid to believe that no one knew anything around when the same Edmondson talked about the noise.
Third, Allison didn’t live by herself since she entered deeper into the cult…
She had housemate since she moved in Knoxwood…
I remind you that the condo was rented by her starting AFTER THE BRANDING!
You can try as much as you want to put it on Allison’s account, it doesn’t matter, it’s not disputable anymore…
The authorities have demonstrated what I said (it’s clearly shown in the trial…you need to be an idiot not to see it)
The reality is it’s unrealistic for 1 more Reason…SHE WAS LIVING WITH NICOLE AND I DON’T RECALL NICOLE SAID IT HAPPENED THERE.
I’ll stick with the first version of Edmondson (which was more believable), she lied WAY TOO OFTEN for me to give her more credit that to what was said and demonstrated in the trial.
I know sticking by the fact is Something many have a problem to do around here but at least, when it’s so clearly debunked, you could support the Truth.
Or continue to make a fool of yourself.
Salzman testified that she had a ritual at her house for her own slaves, and then took them to Mack’s residence to be branded.
What’s that about continuing to make a fool of yourself?
Oh, and slaves reported having sex with Raniere at Mack’s home, as well – that was quite the place that she had.
Also, Allison bought 7 Generals way in October, 2011, and still owns it. What rental are you talking about?
p.s. We can add to the list of inconvenient facts about Mack, that she went around to the neighbors and told them to ignore any womens’ screaming as supposedly just part of some sort of exercise, as a calculated guise to try to mislead them and forestall trouble over screaming from the branding ceremonies at her residence.
If that had related to her own supposed night terrors, she could have just told them the truth, that she had bad dreams. Instead she was deceiving them, preparing them for hearing other women besides her screaming – any way it could be construed, she was still going around to the neighbors and lying to them about the sounds coming out of her home at night.
How many of these articles can you write?
I earnestly apologize I did not read this one.
I think we all now understand that Allison Mack is……Bad bad bad….Wicked wicked wicked….Evil evil evil……
Ghislaine Maxwell is definitely more wicked than Allison Mack.
Keith Raniere is more evil than Allison Mack.
And in my opinion both Salzmans are more culpable(bad) than Allison Mack…
…,,Yet you do not devote a tenth(1/10) of the time to them as you do Allison Mack. Why is that?
Clare (shudder) Bronfman is every bit as evil as Raniere.
I would say that the Salzmans and Mack are hardened criminals, but I don’t think that Mack is evil in the way that Raniere and Clare B are.
Off course Shadowstate does not answer the tough questions……
Niceguy: Oh but he will answer…with his usual “she is evil”.
Don’t expect a real answer, I doubt he knows himself why he is doing this.
But as long as Frank (and some of the nutjob (Paul, Thor Raniere and a few) continue to “Believe” his stories… he’ll continue with his view.
He would anyway but at least, if he wasn’t published, we would have an easier time to take Frank seriously…
Now, this blog is nothing but a joke.
I doubt any serious newspaper or anyone with a reputation would still dare to link any source to FReport…
There is a reason why many of the ex nxians coming over here stopped…
Between the crazy Shadow’s story and the rest of the (often defamatory) stories…What is left of the Truth on this blog?
1 article out of 10 is interesting, the rest is useless…
Frank proved it not long ago that he could do with Shadow and it was an interesting few days but he always ends up posting Shadow’s stupid lies.
I suspect it’s not really Frank who is posting those but another of the staff around here…Wouldn’t be surprised if one said it was KRClaviger because nothing that KR write is making sense since the end of the trial…
Maybe you would be obsessed with her to if you realized this was just another incarnation of Satan this bitch deserves nothing less than being skinned alive and then stoned to death don’t kid yourself
Get help, sicko
I believe Thor Raniere’s opinion is straight and to the point.
Modern America fails to understand that the world is full of evil people committing evil acts.
“If it feels good do it” is not an acceptable way to run a society.
“I believe Thor Raniere’s opinion is straight and to the point.”
Of course you do, my comment fits your situation too…sicko
This article has a lot wrong with it. It’s apples:oranges, to compare Mack to Maxwell.
1. Maxwell comes from a highly-connected, superrich family, with global connections at the highest levels in the social strata. Mack couldn’t even get near 99% of the people that Maxwell could call on the telephone.
2. Like her father, Maxwell is a Mossad agent. She hasn’t been seen in public since the recent events with Epstein’s arrest. Doesn’t that strike anybody as odd, considering that we live in the age of mass surveillance, with security cameras everywhere, facial recognition, automated license plate readers, and all kinds of other privacy-eliminating “tools”?? She hasn’t been spotted at all, by anyone, even though her face is all over the news? She’s obviously getting help from somebody, unless she was considered a ‘loose-end’, killed off, and written off as collateral damage.
3. Epstein’s trafficking ring was a blackmail operation, sanctioned by the Israeli government, and done with the full blessing of the US government. Even with Bronfman money backing him, a nobody like Keith Rainiere couldn’t pull off a sophisticated operation like this was, since neither he, nor the people under him were all that smart.
4. Mack is a gullible fool of a woman, who was basically manipulated into doing bad things because she thought it would please Rainiere. Useful idiot, is all Allison Mack was. Maxwell on the other hand, is highly-educated and skilled (helicopter pilot, submarine pilot, undersea robot controller are just some of the things she knows how to do). Maxwell did what she did to help grow and improve Epstein’s operation. She not only willingly participated, but was instrumental in acquiring victims. She also used her social connections to bring a lot of marks under the thumb of the operation.
I’m not yet entirely convinced that Allison Mack was a full member or Raniere’s inner circle in the same sense that others were. I suspect that she was a special project of Raniere’s. She is guilty of more than she was convicted of, but I think that for Raniere she had a special status all of her own. Her low level of intelligence and poor sense of self, made her a perfect subject for some of his more invasive mind control experiments. I doubt that she was in the know about many of his crimes to the degree that other members of his inner circle were. She had little or no capacity for resistance. She was uniquely suitable for his experimentation. I would estimate her emotional maturity to be roughly equivalent to that of the average 12-14 year old. So yes, she was in the inner circle, but in a different way than the others, and with a very different role. Even thought guilty, she was chosen early on to be a patsy, and deflect attention from the other guilty parties. To a large extent, she has fulfilled that function well. Consider how much more attention the likes of Nancy Salzman and the Bronfman sisters would have received, had not Mack been so carefully groomed to deflect it. All the photos of her subsequent to her arrest, portray a person in a state of complete bafflement. To my mind that is explained by two things: Her low intelligence and her ignorance of many of Raniere’s other crimes. She deserves a lengthy prison sentence; but she also warrants much more thoughtful analysis of her personality and unique role in Raniere’s plans.
Spot-on analysis, I think. I pity her, actually, because her “free choices” were manipulated so greatly by Raniere, and her former fame only helped her be the patsy (just look at the number of headlines focusing on her compared to Nancy Salzman, who arguably was far deeper in as far as many of the crimes went – and how many of them played off her Smallville role). Doesn’t mean I don’t think she deserves prison time, because she does, but she’s more tragic than evil, from what I’ve seen, certain people’s obsessions notwithstanding. All of us have darker impulses, but there’s a real difference between someone who knowingly dwells in them, and someone who’s manipulated into them. Raniere and co. knew just how to get people to do evil while thinking they were doing the right thing; someone like Maxwell knows full well what’s right and wrong, they just don’t care – and it’s that level of evil I’m more concerned about going after. One problem in our society is that we too often throw the book at the people like Allison Mack – and leave the Ghislaine Maxwells off the hook. The latter should be targeted far more!
I view the likes of Raniere, Saville, Epstein, and Maxwell as ‘Transgressionists’ or adherents of ‘Transgressionism’. These are people who get their kicks by knowingly doing evil, going against all moral principles, and committing the most heinous crimes they can. I don’t believe that it is just about the sex. It is about the pleasure of (knowing) how wrong what they do is. And the more wrong it is, the greater the pleasure.
“Doesn’t mean I don’t think she deserves prison time, because she does”
Does she really? If we stick by facts and not by Allegation, she technically have paid her debt vastly over what she should…
This is not including the destruction of her life by Raniere which will require her more time to heal (Something nobody allow her to have..)
She collected the collateral Under coercion, it’s not debatable, it’s a fact…The coercion has to be accounted (everyone over her try to forget it but it’s a fact)
She wasn’t holding any power , not even on her own life. And all this while a virtual gun was on her head…
“we too often throw the book at the people like Allison Mack – and leave the Ghislaine Maxwells off the hook”
That is partially true but mainly here…Many didn’t talked much about Allison…
And while neither should be compared (Allison was a victim of a cult and collected collateral under coercion…Ghislaine Maxwell seem to have many proof against her on a sex trafficking case and child exploitation…), I doubt Maxwell will be off the hook.
Hmm, you have some good points. The time she’s spent under house arrest could arguably count. I guess a lot of it might have to do with the difference between punishment for crimes and true justice. If we go by a reflex “this crime deserves this time” (which many readers on here seem to do, with an almost vicious glee) she would need prison time for the things she’s done. If we go by a more nuanced sense of what the individual criminal actually should get as a consequence, then I would say she has already been punished quite severely (given her limited intelligence/maturity and the amount of manipulation she was subject to in order to get her to do the things she did), and a suspended sentence or at least a very reduced one would be appropriate (though I’m not sure if those who were directly affected by her actions would agree, as they feel the results much more keenly). Her following of Raniere damaged her health, destroyed her reputation, and ruined any chances of her finding future work in the profession she used to love. She’ll have a hard enough time recovering from that. I really hope she gets a good therapist at some point; she needs it.
“I’m not sure if those who were directly affected by her actions would agree”
Actually i doubt they wouldn’t…
I haven’t seen a ANYONE REALLY HURT BY THE CULT saying that she deserve the worst…
Heidi who was a real victim of the cult understand better than many (especially the loonys around here) what Allison got throu and how she ended up were she was…
Yet ,everytime she defend Allison, she become the target of many lunatics around here.
The reality is , any sane person would consider that she paid enough because , i know i repeat it a lot but it fail to enter in some people’s mind, she didn’t do more than collecting the collaterals.
It’s a crime , yes, and a serious one…one that would give her a 2 years sentencing max…
But she never committed any crime before and was seriously coerced. (A fact that lunatics ignore (then complain about the fact that i ignore the hearsay))
But when you see that even after the opposite was proved, many still believe that she was behind the branding. You can’t expect people around her to be impartial…
How many different Paul is there because while i Don’t agree with everything, it’s a more intelligent analyse than the other Pauls…
“I’m not yet entirely convinced that Allison Mack was a full member or Raniere’s inner circle in the same sense that others were”
That is because she was not for as long…She wasn’t really in the inner circle until he collateralized her completly…
This date to around 2015 (It was pointed that he couldn’t trust anyone until fully collateralized)
“Her low level of intelligence and poor sense of self”
I will defend that it is because you absolutely Don’t know her…It’s her “poor sense of self” that made her fall for the cult.
She was far to be stupid (like many people in Nxivm (see Dani , she felt for it too and followed for sometime…)
“So yes, she was in the inner circle, but in a different way than the others, and with a very different role”
True but it’s more of a BARELY in the inner circle…And in defense of the other inner circle too (those not involved in the child abused), I doubt he was willingly sharing these stories with anyone not involved…
“Even thought guilty, she was chosen early on to be a patsy, and deflect attention from the other guilty parties. To a large extent, she has fulfilled that function well. Consider how much more attention the likes of Nancy Salzman and the Bronfman sisters would have received, had not Mack been so carefully groomed to deflect it.”
Funnily enough, it wasn’t supposed to be them to be protected by all this…It’s obviously Raniere who tried to protect (again) himself.
But Mr Genius forgot to be smart and made (thankfully, in a way, so he could be stopped) many mistakes.
” All the photos of her subsequent to her arrest, portray a person in a state of complete bafflement. To my mind that is explained by two things: Her low intelligence and her ignorance of many of Raniere’s other crimes. ”
True but it’s not due to her intelligence…only her ignorance of the crimes.
“She deserves a lengthy prison sentence; but she also warrants much more thoughtful analysis of her personality and unique role in Raniere’s plans.”
Really ? for what Reason does she deserve a “lengthy prison sentence”?
She just collected the collateral, it’s the only thing undisputable!
She didn’t do anything else and especially not what the village idiot (and his friend) pretend!
The trial showed that she did Nothing more than India (who was supposed to be indicted but then she was replaced by Allison solely) and one of the victim was close to commit the same crime Allison did.
Anything else is pure speculation based on nothing…
Even forced labor is debunked (by Nicole herself when she said that she didn’t need to pay Allison for her service because she was her mentor but Allison should have paid her)
The absolute maximum she should get (in a fair world) is 2 years (based on the crime she really committed)
And seeing that she spend a year (and probably half by the sentencing),it should be accounted (The judge admitted that Home confinement is prison)
Also Let’s not forget that Allison was coerced to do everything she did. It’s absolutely not disputable!
She was the first to see her collateral released so it’s a fact that she was collateralised and therefor , This is a point to consider too.
So why the lengthy prison sentence?
You do an incredible disservice to your readers when you post “articles” from Shadowstate. I agree with the other commenters…Shadow is the village idiot, and his unhealthy obsession with Allison Mack is already forced on us in the comment section of every article he posts in. Do we really need entire articles devoted to his obsession too?
What an intriguing name!
And it comes from a Saturday Night Live skit with Eddie Murphy.
Velvet Jones is a great name for Allison Pimp Mack.
SNL Eddie Murphy Be a Ho
Agree Velvet. And would also like to restate my opinion that Shadowstate’s obsession with Ms. Mack (and the allegations which persisted when Shadow first started posting on the Frank Report, that Mack’s management had to file for orders of protection against Shadowstate) (allegations which can only be put to rest if S/S posts under his true name) is every bit as sordid as many of NXIVM/Raniere’s activities.
Frank Parlato is much too cagey (and most readers here too intelligent) to think that anything Shadow contributes is “investigative journalism”. So for now, I take Shadow’s contributions for their comedic value and take my potshots at him, knowing that he can not chase after me what with one and sometimes both of his feet in his mouth.
The Frank Report is a “revenge blog”. Shadow’s contributions are a “revenge blog within a revenge blog.” We all know what drives Frank’s need for revenge. What drives Shadow’s need for revenge?
“The Frank Report is a “revenge blog”.
Who would want revenge against Allison Pimp Mack?
How about all of the women she tortured, blackmailed and enslaved.
Which does not answer the question of why YOU are so angry?
If you were not spending an unhealthy amount of time on the Frank Report, focusing your anger on the obvious object of your fixation, you might actually be able to do something positive for other women (or individuals of any gender) who are at risk. Maybe volunteer at a battered women’s shelter? Maybe volunteer to be a “Big Brother”? (hey, you could introduce the child to “Smallville”.)
It is too late to assist the women Allison Mack tortured, blackmailed and enslaved. Allison Mack will be facing the judge in the next 60 days. Case closed, except of course for the inevitable NXIVM civil litigation which should fuel the Frank Report for years to come.
You are beginning to remind me a lot of Claire Bronfman. If she had donated only half of the money she squandered on the Flaccid Dwarf to real scientists and researchers, she may have done some real good in this world.
If you took half the time you spend ranting and raving about Allison Mack, and put that time to good use, you might actually do some good in your community.
Whomever posted this article is an idiot:
“MK10ART’s Study of Allison Mack with her worthy pubic brands in mind.”
How about accepting the facts that SHE ISN’T BEHIND THE BRANDING!
Nobody with a SANE brain still believes this.
Trial demonstrated that it was Raniere’s creation…But, of course, let’s go back to the old lies!
It’s a Dangerous game and you are flirting with defamation (not per se as the branding ISN’T A CRIME).
“How about accepting the facts that SHE ISN’T BEHIND THE BRANDING!”
How about accepting the fact that Allison Mack signed on to the brandings and oversaw the process?
How about accepting the fact that branding sex slaves is part and parcel of sex trafficking?
“How about accepting the fact that Allison Mack signed on to the brandings and oversaw the process?
How about accepting the fact that branding sex slaves is part and parcel of sex trafficking?”
How about sticking with what was proved at the trial…
This is what was proved:
SHE ISN’T BEHIND THE BRANDING, SHE DIDN’T CREATED , SHE DIDN’T DO ANYTHING RELATED TO IT…
It was vocally recorded that RANIERE IS BEHIND IT.
As for the sex trafficking, continue with that, it’s great material for a defamatory case…
Here is a great new cartoon from MK10Art showing Ghislane Maxwell sharing a womb with Allison Mack, Keith Raniere , Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein.
Be sure to tell the FBI about this “defamation.”
Victims of sexual abuse have to do all the pushing for justice #jeffreyepstein #ghislainemaxwell #keithraniere #allisonmack #Nxivm #princeandrew
That’s amazing, I didn’t think there was womb enough in there for all of those people at one time.
How about accepting the fact that she is behind the Brandings she didn’t think tattooing was painful enough
“How about accepting the fact that she is behind the Brandings she didn’t think tattooing was painful enough”
How about READING COURT INFO instead of believing a FORCED INTERVIEW….
You come over here once a while and Don’t even know what you are talking about…
If you Believe what shadow is telling (based on no real information but on his fantasy), you are maybe a bigger village idiot.
It’s not disputable, Allison was not behind the branding!
It’s a proven fact and it was repeated several time in court.
It was EVEN RECORDED.
She isn’t behind the branding, period.
Frank, you know it discredits all your work and yet…you post lies and BS by an obsessed idiot.
Now to the village idiot, Shadow.
I’m gonna ignore most of your ridiculous ranting because I feel dumber every time I answer you…
But let us address some of your usual lies, once again (i should keep a document with the typical answer since all you do is repeat randomly the same ridiculous statements and lies)
“And Allison, knowing full well that Raniere is a pedophile, covered up for him when confronted with the fact.”
Absolutely not and if you consider that because it was said in the media she must have known…
That means that the victims and some people you like to cite (like Cat Oxenberg who was perfectly able to use social media an, therefore. could find info herself) were knowing and supporting what Raniere did WHEN ALLISON WAS 8 YEARS OLD!
Yeap, 8-year-old…You accuse a child to be an accomplice of something that happened while she was YOUNGER THAN THE VICTIM!
The fact is: Nobody believed it because the cases were closed…many didn’t know that Nxivm had the “power” to close cases but from the outside, it could be seen as wild accusations.
The fast is: Allison wasn’t close to Raniere until late (that is coming from a real source, trial)…
The fact is: Raniere was trusting NO ONE (especially after Cafritz died…) and Allison was not in his inner circle long enough to KNOW ANYTHING
I don’t see you talking about people who really knew about all this…They covered for Raniere, genuinely!
But Allison who wasn’t inner circle, was a child when it happened and had no absolute knowledge is complicit!?
Definitely not an obsessed idiot are you?
“Allison Mack is complicit.”
So is everybody involved in the cult from near or far…this includes the victim
“As for Ghislaine and Jeffrey’s Devil worship. in 2018, just before Raniere was arrested, Allison Mack posted a picture of the Spirit Cooking Devil Worshiper Maria Abramovic.”
And? Abramovic was talked about by many people who didn’t worship the devil…
There isn’t even a message, it could be someone else using her account (something known to happen in Nxivm…they even had at one point Tabby and Sylvie managing account)
“Was Allison, who borrows from every religion in the search for Salvation, trying to get help from Satan?”
Sure…in your dream!
Just a little fact for you:
Wasn’t Raniere trying to find a way to detect Luciferian (that he considered as enemies)?
I sure remember a story about a patent.
Yet the number one (in your head) would be one of them !? wow! scoop people!
Get a life, stick with the fact
Stop your lies and your ridiculous (inaccurate) interpretation.
You are no Sherlock Holmes…Just the village idiot!
And why? The Face of Nxivm never comes into it, the dearest friend amd mentor Because the EXplorations of Meaning…from the Queen of Meaning (lol) had no meaning?
I will get it if there is some sort of reason that is unsaid, but enough with the ribbon-cutting Queen of Nxico is gone bs.
“And why? The Face of Nxivm never comes into it, the dearest friend amd mentor Because the EXplorations of Meaning…from the Queen of Meaning (lol) had no meaning?
I will get it if there is some sort of reason that is unsaid, but enough with the ribbon-cutting Queen of Nxico is gone bs.”
I would answer to you if any of this was making sense…
But it doesn’t.
If you pretend Allison was behind exploration of meaning…She isn’t (she never did those except as a patient)
It’s the Salzman’s and a few other that were “formed” to do it.
I Don’t know if you are actually going with my argument or against …
I must have struck a raw nerve with you.
No doubt Mrs. Allison Mack (Nicki Clyne) will be mad with me yet again.
Perhaps Nicki should contact the FBI to explain to the agents why her wife Allison Mack is not a pimp.
Struck a raw nerve? for this you’d need to be saying the Truth, which you Don’t…
Allison just Don’t give a damn about a pathetic 60 + years old that is obsessively trying to prove a lie he created.
The only think she should give a damn is about getting a restraining order because one thing is sure with you, you are mad!
BTW nobody has anything to do anything to explain FBI or anyone that Allison isn’t a pimp…
You are the only one (amongst a quite limited few people with a lack of a brain) that still Believe that.
But to go back to you “struck a raw nerve” …How can you Believe that spending time lying about EVERYTHING YOU POST could hit anything…
You are just the village idiot, it’s a fact…contrary to your ridiculous allegation and defamatory statements, i Don’t have to prove it…
You do that work perfectly!
“Allison just Don’t give a damn about a pathetic 60 + years old that is obsessively trying to prove a lie he created.”
What does Allison Mack give a damn about?
Allison Mack is salivating over all that hot lesbian love she’ll soon be getting in prison.
“What does Allison Mack give a damn about?
Allison Mack is salivating over all that hot lesbian love she’ll soon be getting in prison.”
Maybe …but after a couple of years at max, she’ll be free!
You will be prisoner of you condition and still be a pathetic 60+ (soon to be 70) obsessive but with no life to live for…
Hardly an enviable position, Shadow.
“Maybe …but after a couple of years at max, she’ll be free!”
Allison Mack will never be free of the stain she so willingly acquired.
The stain of sex trafficking will always be on her the way the blood was always on Lady MacBeth’s hands no matter how hard she washed.
Allison Mack will always be known as a PIMP.
Yes, Shadow is posting sensationalistically and obsessively.
But you can no more claim that Mack was absolutely not involved in facilitating Raniere’s pedophilia, than Shadow can claim that she was. We don’t have any good evidence about that, though there are some disturbing enough allegations regarding her possibly grooming at least one young girl, that it’s definitely open to question.
And I think I need to make a list for you laying out Mack’s complicity that resulted in her being indicted by a grand jury and pleading guilty to being one of the 5 principal conspirators. She was definitely more complicit than almost anyone else in NXIVM, except for a couple more of the unnamed co-conspirators.
“But you can no more claim that Mack was absolutely not involved in facilitating Raniere’s pedophilia, than Shadow can claim that she was. We don’t have any good evidence about that, though there are some disturbing enough allegations regarding her possibly grooming at least one young girl, that it’s definitely open to question”
You’d like to be on the list of defamer per se too?
THERE IS NOTHING CONNECTING ALLISON TO ANYTHING RELATED TO PEDOPHILIA!
Not more than for Nicole or Jayes…If, by being in the cult, it’s enough to be an accomplice of Something that happened before any of them were in, then EVERYONE IN THE CULT,INCLUDING THE VICTIMS ARE!
Stop trying to argue on things you clearly Don’t understand…
The Allegation you talk about are clearly BS , Even Frank didn’t Believe much in them.
You have to be an extreme idiot to Believe in that (which you could be…)
“And I think I need to make a list for you laying out Mack’s complicity that resulted in her being indicted by a grand jury and pleading guilty to being one of the 5 principal conspirators. She was definitely more complicit than almost anyone else in NXIVM, except for a couple more of the unnamed co-conspirators.”
Pathetic, and stupidly wrong…
They got Allison because she had people to witness against her.
This is why it was aiming at the what she ended with…extorsion
She wasn’t involved in ANYTHING ELSE and the TRIAL PROVED IT.
Continue to play the idiot and ignore the facts (like you used too)…
You trully fit by Shadow side in term of stupid analyse, useless comment and false statements.
You have a hard time to stick to the fact too , just like him.
I advice you to read the document of the trial (because i doubt you did it once, seeing you point Nothing factual but hearsay only)