Susan Dones: Anonymous poster writes like Barbara Bouchey

Let me see if I'm clear about this

Three people were sued from the NXIVM 9

Dones and her partner said NXIVM claimed they tried extortion, but they were found not guilty of this.

Bouchey was sued and has said Clare Bronfman claimed Bouchey tried to extort money from her; this case was dropped due to inactivity.

Now a “friend” is claiming Bouchey didn't write a story posted on the blog written in “first person” telling of how Clare claimed in a court case against them that “this NXIVM 9 women attempted to extort money from her!

It only could be Bouchey if you ask me; who else could have written the story?

Maybe Bouchey didn't post it but someone did for her.

Liar Liar pants on fire

Wow…What a hate filled posting. Makes me wonder if the end result of belonging to this group is becoming like them. People claiming to have moved on are horrible to each other. So sad.

This is false and hurtful. 1. Barbara has always been transparent, forthright, and honest. In all the years that I have known her, I have never, ever known her to ask anyone to post on her behalf, or to secretly send something to a blog, including myself. It has never happened. Susan, perhaps this is something that people you know have done, or that you yourself have done, but it is not in Barbara's character to be sneaky like that. 2. She did not tell me to post this in her defense, nor does she know that I am writing this. I am writing this because this post is unfair, unjust and wrong. 3. I am confused, Susan. Just a few days ago you texted me saying “Barbara IS sweet.” It makes no sense with what I see you have written here. Nor does it make sense with the positive, lofty things I have heard about you. 4. This post and the gloating, ever-so-snarky comments of SAY WHAT and VENN LOGIC (also wrong), come across petty, cruel and abusive instead of positive, kind and supportive. Fellow survivors, especially women, should be classy and have a code of honor to support each other rather than heap additional public humiliation on them, adding insult to injury. Frank, I am disappointed that you allowed your blog to be a sandbox for bullies to make false accusations and smear and re-traumatize victims. This took the credibility of your blog down 500% if you ask me.

I agree with this last comment that this post was aggressively negative and abusive. some people have commented that you, Susan Dones, are a hero and may look up to you. Unfortunately, possibly due to your Post Traumatic Stress you have become cruel and abrasive . I was beginning to have hope that some of the fallen devotees of the “Vanguard” had risen above the abuse they once endured and would be more compassionate and kind. Not the case here. You say you left many years ago, and yet this reads like a Facebook post gone bad.

I would expect more .

I would like to see more fact based news.I am not interested in a pissing match with ex-members .

I think it's time we all move on from these kind of posts on both sides of playing field. I know both these women and they both were abused within the ranks of NXIVM. They did leave together but due to their personal issues they do not spend time together. It does not make one right or one wrong.

None of their close personal friends needs to defend the other on a public forum that is designed for exposure of NXIVM dirty laundry. Let's let these women heal in their own time, in private and all be responsible adults about this.

Personally I don't think anything other than NXIVM related issues should be made posts and it appears this was just a comment made under a post that was made into another post and started some infighting. Not good and not necessary.

I know both of these women quite well. Susan is extremely truthful and very protective of others. Barbara exaggerates all aspects of her life and only cares about herself.

Barbara's latest puff-piece about her life story at BarbaraBouchey.net reeks of someone with a huge ego and an overblown sense of her own importance. And it leaves out a lot of facts that expose the REAL Barbara. Like how much money she made managing the Bronfmans' money. (Hint: It's more than she “lent” to Keith). Or like how much she earned as one of NXIVM's highest paid staff.

Come on, Ya, tell everyone the whole truth about what you did when you were in NXIVM; about the fact that you required your staff to take ESP courses; about all the other students you recruited and convinced to piss away their life savings on ESP courses; about how pissed you were when Keith decided to replace you with Ivy. And tell everyone how your real dream was to take Keith's tech and create your own executive training program.

And stop using photos of yourself that have obviously been photo-shopped. Where's the honesty in that?

ONE WHO WAS THERE…COMES OUT

What began as a few comments to other posts on this blog as one who was there has spawned a vicious and unfair attack on Barbara Bouchey by Susan Dones and others. Susan has not only authored several lengthy insulting comments, a brand new story blaming Barbara for my words, imported new things I never said but also… spent considerable time and energy to copy / paste the negative comments into the more recent positive posts Frank wrote about Barb.

It is not only hateful and disturbing but makes it necessary for me “out myself.” I will be addressing my few comments and several of Susan’s with attempts to clear up any confusion that either she or the reader may have. FYI…I was enjoying anonymity… as I have been lied about in court filings and harassed by Nxivm in the past.

Points of clarification….

1. The comment was to a posting on Dec. 17th by “A woman from the inside tears apart Clare’s note of support of Raniere.” Frank reposted my comment the next day under a new heading “One of the Nxivm 9: Our famous resignation letter has resurrected with new lies”… which I was unaware of and was not my intention. In a nutshell, this woman on the inside is calling Clare out on “lying” in her letter to 20/20 producers. My comment was from personal experience and things already on public record anyhow….so I fail to understand Susan’s comments about the “harm to others and getting us dragged into court”.

2. Susan has likened my style of writing to Barbara. She would not know my style as she has never seen it. I can assure you that Barbara has never asked me to post anything on her behalf and does not choose to do so herself for reasons that Susan and others are well aware of…

The Bronfman sisters have a pending lawsuit against Frank Parlato… in which Barbara was their financial planner. Not only has she been accused of colluding with adversaries against Nxivm in their other lawsuits (i.e. Plyams, Ross, O’Hara, Dones)… but has also weathered previous attempts by the Bronfmans to have her business licenses removed. She is likely to be deposed again in this case and has decided against the risk of being involved with frank and this blog in any form…which can be verified by Frank.

3. My comment to the Dec 17th post began with “ This is someone who has known Clare and many of us who left” – in reference to the author of the post. Susan’s subsequent reference to Barbara knowing Clare best is irrelevant.

4. I made statements on this post…as I do have an experience of Clare lying about me in court filings regarding our resignation letter (which frank has posted on the blog and exists in several court filings) and claims of extortion (which are also of public record by both Nxivm and Clare and more recently by Alex Betancourt and Emiliano Salinas). We all know this is ridiculous and have to question how my repeating any of it will cause harm.

I do, however, recognize what Susan is engaged in as a destructive campaign to discredit Barbara in the public eye. Quite frankly, this is right out of Nxivm's playbook….like labeling people as suppressive to discredit and further abuse them…this is obvious and intentional harm.

I am saddens me to have been dragged into this cruel vendetta against Barbara and I would stand by any of the Nxivm 9 who were being falsely accused or slandered. I have always been proud of everyone one of us for questioning Keith about what we didn’t agree with and severing our relationship to Nxivm when we realized that his conduct and that of the leadership did not match our values. I felt it an honor to stand with these woman.

I remain supportive of anyone who has been victimized by this gang, and will continue to be truthfull and honest about everything that occurred.

Thanks for listening,

Angela Ucci

Nothing in Angela Ucci's “coming out” post changes my opinion one bit about Barbara Bouchey. Once again, I suggest that if anyone wants to really understand Barbara, all they have to do is read through her self-important, breath-taking life story at BarbaraBouchey.net.

Seriously, who writes that kind of stuff about themselves? And who creates a special website where people can go to read about how wonderful you are. (It's kind of like starting your own fan club and hoping some fans will join)

And here's a question for Christine Marie: Are you being paid – or have you ever been paid – to serve as a Media Coach by Barbara? A simple “Yes” or “No” will suffice – and rest assured, your answered will be fact-checked.

And lastly, here are some questions for Barbara herself (Maybe Christine can get answers for us since Saint Barbara doesn't read trash like the Frank Report):

(1) – How much did you earn in total throughout the time that you “managed” the Bronfmans' funds?

(2) – How many other NXIVM members did you have as clients during the time you were involved with the cult and how much did you earn in total for managing their money?

(3) – How much did you get paid from NXIVM throughout the time that you worked for them and did you declare all that money as income on your tax returns?

(4) – How many new members did you recruit for NXIVM and how much do you estimate they paid in fees for NXIVM classes? Have you done anything to repay any of those funds to those people?

(5) – Did you encourage or require your staff to attend NXIVM courses? Did you ever fire, demote, or fail to promote anyone for not doing so?

(6) – Did you have NXIVM make presentations to your non-NXIVM clients at your firm's holiday parties?

(7) – Did you, in fact, max out all your credit cards just days/hours before you filed for bankruptcy?

(8) – What have you personally done to get anyone out of NXIVM since you left?

(9) – Did you ever state that you wanted to use Keith's “tech” to start your own executive training program?

(10) – Are you still trying to negotiate a book deal to tell your story to the world?