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More evidence on Kristin Kreuk’s Girls By Design – you be the judge

11/10/2018  |  Frank Parlato
More evidence on Kristin Kreuk’s Girls By Design – you be the judge
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Thanks to a reader who works in the media who sent me most of the following:

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Let’s judge this fairly.

It appears that GBD had “Workshops” in Vancouver. This means that GBD was not just an online forum for young underage girls.

Below are some discussion topics that NXIVM members Kristin Kreuk and Kendra Voth offered to teen and preteen girls in Girls By Design.

I find one of these topics interesting – “What is your sexuality and orientation?”

What does that mean?  The question is not “what is your sexual orientation?” but rather seems to be a twofold question: – what is your sexuality? And what is your orientation?

Is it strange that a TV actress is hosting discussions with 12 and 13 year old girls and discussing with them such a topic?

Perhaps, if Kruek was not a coach for NXIVM and NXIVM was not led by an accused pedophile and manipulative sex-trafficker – it might seem innocent enough.

https://web.archive.org/web/20090621083904/http://blog.girlsbydesign.com:80/forum/topic.php?id=202

gbd 1

gbd 2

Were NXIVM members working this board, pretending to be young teens as part of a grooming process? Was Keith on there, having “intimate” conversations with these girls without them knowing they were talking to a older male pedophile?

Here are a few more links to explore:


Below a “member” of GBD is comforting another member, then gives them Kristin Kreuk’s email but insists they are not her….


https://web.archive.org/web/20090618031556/http://blog.girlsbydesign.com:80/forum/topic.php?id=228


And who is Kathy?



https://web.archive.org/web/20090618030621/http://blog.girlsbydesign.com:80/forum/topic.php?id=226


Here is their facebook group:


https://www.facebook.com/groups/7980531822/


In this Youtube: they mention an enter to win contest and win an OVERNIGHT stay.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKfNiMweMqY


In this video, Kristin and Kendra invite girls from 12-18 to ask them questions.


https://youtu.be/rKfNiMweMqY


Kristin Kreuk at a Time Out retreatKristin Kreuk at a Time Out retreat

Then there is the Time Out Retreat for Teen Girls – which seems to have been the next step – the chance to meet the girls in person.


Video of Time Out Retreat for Teen Girls



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=518m0SPlNTE

Another video of the weekend, which includes the names of the adult “teachers” that were there working with the girls.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjfaP4QnV_k


https://web.archive.org/web/20090123142437/http://www.timeoutretreat.com:80/

It explains:

“TIMEOUT FOR TEENS is an overnight holistic retreat for teen girls where they will have the opportunity to attend rotations designed to empower them to have access to tools to achieve balance in their lives.

“There will be an evening event introducing young female celebrities who will attend as speakers for the evening as well as mentors. Retreat is opened to all girls aged 13-17 in the Los Angeles area. Transportation, food and lodging is free thanks to the generous donation of Warner Springs Ranch (www.warnersprings.com) and Kristin Kreuk.

“To be selected to attend, follow the directions below. Answer the following question: What do you want the world to look like in your lifetime? Send us a project that best expresses your vision of how you can contribute to make the world closer to that vision. *Please submit your project in either a collage, painting, writing, video, musical c.d., or other multi-media format.

“To Enter go to www.timeoutretreat.com”

 

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None of this means it was less than a sincere attempt by Kreuk to meet and mentor girls – like a big sister – or a Girls Scout type gathering.

More on Kristin

https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.idole.org


https://kristinalways.skyrock.com/

In this screenshot, GBD is collecting names, numbers and addresses of underage girls.


https://web.archive.org/web/20090124091549/http://timeoutretreat.com:80/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=60:what-is-time-out-for-teens&catid=40:time-out-for-teens&Itemid=63


Here is another GBD effort to get girls the names of girls who might have an interest in making the world better - which was Raniere's allure for many who came into Nxivm.Here is another GBD effort to get girls the names of girls who might have an interest in making the world better - which was Raniere's allure for many who came into Nxivm.



Something very odd about this thread:

Someone keeps insisting they sent an email to Kendra at [email protected] and asking for ‘a train’


https://web.archive.org/web/20090619090319/http://blog.girlsbydesign.com:80/forum/topic.php?id=150





Let’s assume all of this is innocent. Wouldn’t it be good for Kreuk to clear the air and say so?


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Comments (57)

  • Mitch GarrityNovember 10, 2018
    Thank you. I asked and I received. You have given us the tools to make an authentic conclusion. In doing so we have joy. And ethics. And are human.
    • Vanguardis ProfoundisNovember 10, 2018
      Humans can be noble. But will we put forth the effort necessary ?
  • AnonymousNovember 10, 2018
    — Let’s judge this fairly.

    Sure Jan.
  • VillagedianneNovember 10, 2018
    I don’t know if there was some sort of agenda here. But I do know that cults look for young people who are idealistic and want to make the world a better place. They then take all that idealistic young energy and build a cage around it.
  • AnonymousNovember 10, 2018
    There is so much Kreuk has to address. Being named in a lawsuit, money laundering discussions on a secret Necker Island cult summit, being named in the same expose that revealed your leader is a rapist and pedophile, why you claimed you left in 2013 when you didn't, girls from GBD who ended up in NXIVM, knowing full well Keith Raniere fucked his students including Allison Mack who she recruited, lying about GBD not being associated with NXIVM, tricking college kids into giving information to Keith Raniere under completely false pretenses etc. Also, the accusations by Jane the DOS slave. If even part of that is true, Kreuk is a fucking monster.
    • AnonymousNovember 10, 2018
      – There is so much Kreuk has to address.

      No there isn't.
      • I smell chutney, explosives and low quality semenNovember 10, 2018
        Yes there is SultanOfSpank. So obviously you. Why are you posting anonymously lately? You think people can't tell it's you?

        *********************

        “Was Keith on there, having “intimate” conversations with these girls without them knowing they were talking to a older male pedophile?”

        Well we know at least one older male pedophile who used an alias(s) to communicate with underage girls on the GBD website. Can you guess who? He kind of smells like chutney and wears a towel over his head.
        • AnonymousNovember 10, 2018
          I smell a whiny, whiny bitch. Waaah. Kristin rejected my ass. Waah. Call the waaambulance you big baby.
          • Brown BeetlespankNovember 10, 2018
            “Kristin rejected my ass”

            Once again, the smelly poo stain who needs to be removed from America, creates a narrative that he wants to be true. This isn't a narrative though, you look like this: https://shitfarts.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/img_7823.jpg
          • AnonymousNovember 10, 2018
            Sure thing whiny bitch boy. There's only two things that drive obsession: love and hate. When it's the latter and it's a woman, it's rooted in envy. When it's the latter and it's a man, it's rooted in woman rejecting his ass. Both manifest themselves in anger.

            You're not here for anything else. You big fucking cry baby.
          • AnonymousNovember 10, 2018
            HA! You actually think you got her out of NXIVM! You arrogant smug cunt. Go fuck allah up the ass paki boy. Then suck mohammeds little dinky. What a deranged little faggot you are.
        • GBD SiteNovember 10, 2018
          @ I smell. I was thinking the same as I read the article
      • AnonymousNovember 10, 2018
        Sure Osama Bin Stalker… all the people calling out Allison Mack, Sarah Edmondson and Nicki Clyne want to fuck them but were rejected by them, or are envious of them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg66j0fUbUk
        • AnonymousNovember 10, 2018
          — “all the people”

          ROFL at ALL THE PEOPLE. You mean the one person in you.

          Gawd you're fucking dumb. I said “obsession” you dumbass.

          Articles related to Kreuk and Mack are by far the most prevalent of those celebrity members who are/were part of NXIVM on this site. Mack is actually charged as a co-conspirator and the one person who keeps being allowed to post his articles hating on her keeps being labelled as…drum roll please…obsessed with hate for her rejecting his ass. The former left a long time ago and has never been charged with anything, yet her articles keep showing up because fuckers like you keep getting Frank to post them. Why would people care about a “smell the fart”, “D-list shitty actress”? You're an obsessed hater because she rejected your ass. NO SANE PERSON OBSESSES ABOUT SOMEONE WHO ISN'T IMPORTANT TO THEM IN SOME EXTREME OF LIKE OR DISLIKE.

          You're maximum education level must be dolt.
          • AnonymousNovember 10, 2018
            Paki, stop trying to dictate narratives you want to be true.

            “ROFL at ALL THE PEOPLE. You mean the one person in you.”

            That's right shit skin. All the comments talking about all the NXIVM members previously mentioned are all written by one person.

            “NO SANE PERSON OBSESSES ABOUT SOMEONE WHO ISN’T IMPORTANT TO THEM IN SOME EXTREME OF LIKE OR DISLIKE.”

            How many people post comments about President Trump, Hillary Clinton, CNN, Fox News, Harvey Weinstein, Bill Crosby etc? You dumb fucking cunt. People express what they think about those they don't like. You are in no position to accuse others of not being sane you freak just because they don't spank it to Kristin Kook like you do. You are a fucking stalker. You are an old paki creep who actually communicated with underage teen girls to try and get closer to the subject of your insane obsession. You contacted the father of the subject of your disgusting obsession. Whether you like it or not, this hoe you can't stop spanking it over is another NXIVM cum slut and no amount of whining and spanking will change that. Deal with it.
          • AnonymousNovember 10, 2018
            — All the comments talking about all the NXIVM members previously mentioned are all written by one person.

            I didn't say “all those comments” were written by one person you moron. You're the one who said “all these people” as if there is some large amount people writing about and calling out Nicki Clyne and Sarah Edmondson in comparison to Kristin Kreuk or even Allison Mack on this web site. And when I made a sarcastic comment about “all the people” it was in reference to you making it seem like there are others posting the same shit you do about Kristin over and over again, you fucking dolt.

            — How many people post comments about President Trump, Hillary Clinton, CNN, Fox News, Harvey Weinstein, Bill Crosby etc?

            ROFL. Talk about a false equivalence.

            — People express what they think about those they don’t like.

            And you express it over and over again because you're an obsessed, stalking hater.

            — . You are in no position to accuse others of not being sane you freak just because they don’t spank it to Kristin Kook like you do. You are a fucking stalker. You are an old paki creep who actually communicated with underage teen girls to try and get closer to the subject of your insane obsession.

            Keep talking Mr. Projection.

            — You contacted the father of the subject of your disgusting obsession.

            Yeah, so fucking what? It got her out of the cult, you whiny bitch.

            — Whether you like it or not, this hoe you can’t stop spanking it over is another NXIVM cum slut and no amount of whining and spanking will change that. Deal with it.

            “cum slut”. Keep proving my point you dumbass.
      • Who is SOS?November 10, 2018
        VanDouche = Sultan of six?

        Both use the term waaaahbulance.

        Coincidence?
        • That piece of shit has many aliases:November 10, 2018
          scarrom, sosalty, wasabi steak, karl basset, jesse, and more. Lately, he has been posting anonymously as if people can't recognise him. He even posted under aliases on the GBD website to interact with underage little girls.
          • AnonymousNovember 10, 2018
            Waaaaaaahhhhhhh. Waaaaaaaahhhhhh. Waaaaaaahhhhhhh. Waaaaaaaahhhhhh.

            So much whining and bitching from a bunch of crybabies who think they’re alphas. Now that’s some funny shit.
          • FlowersNovember 10, 2018
            Are you sure he did that? Maybe he's Lin? 😂😃😅
          • FlowersNovember 10, 2018
            I don't think Sultan was posting a year ago. I noticed he started posting around April this year, as did several other people, such as Scott and Shadow.

            Can you see any Sultan posts posted before April?

            I noticed this because I checked the old posts to see when the all the trolling started …..and I would say the trolling started around that time, too.
          • Check againNovember 10, 2018
            Re check. sos goes back to Oct 2017. Same guy. And probably earlier under a different name.

            Style is unmistakable.
          • The DifferenceNovember 10, 2018
            Flowers, the trolling as you call it did not just follow sos here. He caused it. Post after post his comments forced the BS meter off the scale, and readers get sick of it. Some just like to sling a little bit of crap back at him, so it's not trolling as in the case of Pea Onyu. Actually I don't even consider replies to him trolling.
          • AnonymousNovember 10, 2018
            What a bunch of horseshit in the assertion that the trolling “started with me”. I used rational argumentation for months and you bitches got your panties in a bunch and started your bigoted, biased, ad hominem, argument by repetition, word salad, bullshit. You can’t handle your own medicine and now you’re whining like the cowardly, crying bitches you are.

            Call the waaambulance.
          • The DifferenceNovember 10, 2018
            See what I mean. Just like a spoiled, foul mouth, 11 year old brat that needs a attitude adjustment.
          • AnonymousNovember 10, 2018
            See what I mean. Just like the whiny bishes you are. Can’t handle it when the rational argumentation comes out. Can’t handle it when your own medicine is delved out. Then you guys have the audacity to cry about other people being smug and with attitude problems. You guys must keep Kleenex in business.
        • The DifferenceNovember 10, 2018
          Don't confuse Darth with the sultan. Darth Van Douche is a creditable no nonsense poster, while SOS (sultan) is an obsessed fan who posts nothing but pro kristen and the reader version of word salad . Also Van Douche is a nickname for Keith Raniere, a cross between Vanguard and Douchebag.
          • Who is SOS?November 10, 2018
            But you don't know for sure who either of them are. Could they be the same person? They both like to use the word waaaahbulance., and that's a bit weird.

            I think they could be the same person.
          • The DifferenceNovember 10, 2018
            Could you be new here? If so , Welcome. From reading both of their posts for well over a year my opinion is that they are not. Just my opinion. I have heard that term used from more than one person.
          • Sherlock HolmesNovember 10, 2018
            I agree. The same word said by two posters means they are the same person.

            Come join the Sherlock Holmes Academy genius. I will give you a full scholarship.
          • The DifferenceNovember 10, 2018
            Thanks Holmes !
          • Who is SOS?November 10, 2018
            Hey Sherlock, I'm not basing it on that alone. They both have the same arrogance, and use a lot of similar terms and language.

            I bet this Sultan guy is not really Indian at all. It's a fake story. I bet the Kruek haters use the alias as a way to keep talking about Kruek and dragging her name through the mud.
          • AnonymousNovember 10, 2018
            We are everyone and no one at the same time.

            We are Anonymous.
        • Who is SOS?November 10, 2018
          Grow up already Mr. Sultan Van Douche.

          I know you're the same person writing both parts. It's a good cop/bad cop game, and its getting real old.
          • AnonymousNovember 10, 2018
            Grow up already Mr. Who is SOS. I know you’re the same person writing both parts. It’s a good cop/bad cop game, and it’s getting really old.
          • Who is SOS?November 10, 2018
            Touche, Van Sultan

            But at least you know I'm not a liar about anything else.

            Like you didn't think I would figure it out. Really?
          • AnonymousNovember 10, 2018
            Yeah. Touché. Claim everyone who you think is me and/or who defends Kristin is me – although I’ve never read VanDouche defend Kristin, not even once – and then repeat it over and over again. That only makes you right in the fantasy world you live in.
        • AnonymousNovember 10, 2018
          SultanOfPedoSpank is a pakistani in his 50's. He stalked Kristin Kook on the Saratoga In Decline blog years ago. He is obsessed by her. He contacted her father at his workplace and smugly believes he made Kreuk leave NXIVM. He even interacted with little girls on GBD. Pedo.
    • Stan westNovember 12, 2018
      She has nice boobs though
      • AnonymousNovember 12, 2018
        Kristin Kook? Her boobs are tiny. Like mosquito bites.
  • The JudgeNovember 10, 2018
    Another worthless article by Frank the Hack Parlato

    You're a loser, Frank.
    • nopeNovember 10, 2018
      You are a stupid fan boy. Piss off.
  • FlowersNovember 10, 2018
    What's so creepy about this GBD site (and any other similar site) is that it is possible for Raniere or another random perv, to impersonate a teenaged girl and befriend these girls for nefarious purposes. There is no way to know if these posters are really teenaged girls at all.

    I don't get why “Lin” , (who apparently posted quite frequently,) used the email address [email protected].

    Does anyone know if Kruek really used this hotmail address herself? Was Lin some type of site moderator who was helping Kruek?
    • AnonymousNovember 10, 2018
      “another random perv, to impersonate a teenaged girl and befriend these girls for nefarious purposes.”

      SultanOfStalk used aliases on the GBD site to interact with little girls. Disgusting.
      • FlowersNovember 10, 2018
        Anonymous

        You don't know if he did that. He said that he interacted with the site in some way, but we dont know if he was impersonating girls. I said it would be possible to do that, not that someone definitely did that.

        I wonder if the reason Lin asked the other girl to send the email to Kruek was because Kruek was trying to monitor the site, and she wanted to make sure the girls didnt post their real addresses for safety reasons.

        I have seen what can happen on an improperly moderated message board when criminals target someone….they can form a private chat group and then convince the target to join, befriend them and then gather personal info.
        • Wrongful InteractionNovember 10, 2018
          If you were a man using a name that could be used by either a girl or a boy (such as Jesse) that may be considered wrongful impersonation.
        • AnonymousNovember 10, 2018
          He did. He even admitted he did.
          • FlowersNovember 10, 2018
            Sultan admitted that he was impersonating teenaged girls in the GBD website? I don't think he said that. I don't remember reading that, anyways.
        • AnonymousNovember 10, 2018
          He certainly would not of revealed he was an old man. He would of either pretended to be a teen girl or let them assume he was. Absolutely gross.
        • AnonymousNovember 11, 2018
          SOS is a creep. Read this post: http://www.hollilla.com/reader.php?action=thread&thread=6927907 He's been stalking half asian celebrities for years, hates his brown race and wishes he was Italian! 😂 Of course he denies everything, like when his aliases are called out…
  • AnneNovember 10, 2018
    Is all if this info about shadow and cult SOS true? It would make sense about the obsessive posts. But is this verifiable truth ? And if so why are we subjected to them daily? I'm genuine here not trying to be rude.
    • Scott Johnson (@ScottTexJohnson)November 10, 2018
      Very little of it is true. There are tons of jokers on this website making comments.
    • AnonymousNovember 11, 2018
      It is verifiable if you research. Of course like most in NXIVM or former NXIVM they lie.
    • AnonymousNovember 11, 2018
      Nope. None of the crap they spew is true. Of course, liars can tell the truth, but would you put your trust in them? Not if you want to be burned.
  • Just Sayin'November 10, 2018
    Archive.org is certainly not the friend of people with something to hide.

    As long as it doesn't affect her career (using that term loosely, since I have never seen anything with her in it, and have only heard how bad her 'acting' is), I doubt she will bother to address it.
    • AnonymousNovember 10, 2018
      In Feb 2012, she was named in the TU expose that revealed Raniere was a pedo. She was named in O'Hara's lawsuit and was revealed to be part of the Necker trip where money laundering was discussed. No press coverage. Once the press started calling her out re DOS, she made her weak statement. Keep the heat on.
      • Just Sayin'November 12, 2018
        I agree.

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