Kevin Is Dead Wrong, Ann Makes Her Best Anti Raniere Arguments

Kevin is a defender of Keith Raniere’s supporters. He had a lot to say in his article Loudest Condemnation of Dubious and Exaggerated Anti-Raniere Narrative.

A reader had this to say to Kevin in reply.

By Ann Carlisle

Why don’t you start with Keith Ranier’s court transcript, Kevin, if you’re looking for answers?

Nicole testified under oath.

Michele Hatchette did not.

Lauren Salzman testified at Keith Raniere’s trial.

Lauren Salzman, Mark Vicente, Sylvie Lloyd, and Jessica Joan all testified.

Jessica Joan testified she was assigned the task of seducing Keith Raniere. 

None of Raniere’s supporters testified.

We can presume it was because they were “scared.”

But scared of what — if they did nothing wrong?

Michele can say whatever she wants about Nicole, because she probably knows that Nicole will not risk losing her anonymity to defend herself.

She does not need to defend herself. There was a trial, and the jury decided based on her testimony and many other things.

Kevin, your obsession with Sarah Edmondson is truly bizarre. There are others in the civil suit, others who are also suing Dr. Danielle Roberts for branding them.

To this day, Dr. Roberts doesn’t seem to think it was fucked up to brand around 20 women, naked, without anesthesia to maximize the pain, and without knowledge of what the brand stood for, KR’s initials.

Dr. Danielle Roberts practices yoga.

Sarah Edmondson’s branding video was released in Mexico during the trial. So, yeah, some collateral was released.

Those who still support Raniere, NXIVM, and DOS have never given a good response to why collateral is NOT blackmail.

Why take it, if not to use as a threat of it being released? What’s the point? Why take so many nudes? Why secretly send some of them to Raniere?

Lead prosecutor Moira Kim Penza is now an attorney in private practice.

Your attitude towards Moira Penza is puzzling. She’s a prosecutor, and she had a successful prosecution. Good for her.

Not sure why you think she’s a liar since you have no evidence of her lying. She’s allowed to go on podcasts. She’s allowed to represent whoever she wants.

Moira Kim Penza appeared on Anthony Ames and Sarah Edmondson’s podcast “A Little Bit Culty.”

Everyone deserves legal representation. I’m sure Joseph Tully, one of Raniere’s lawyers who has done a few podcasts and interviews about Raniere, would agree.

Joseph Tully

Your anger at the criminal justice system (if that is what you are angry at? You seem angry at many things) is understandable.

Raniere, Jeffrey Epstein, Bill Cosby, R. Kelly, Jimmy Saville, Harvey Weinstein, and your average pimp often operate illegally for too long.

The late Jimmy Saville molested many children, but he made the Brits laugh. 

It’s disgusting. I’m not sure how you fix it, although I don’t think randomly firing people for NOT investigating someone is practical.
At least the system finally worked in this case. Raniere was put behind bars, along with some of his accomplices.

I don’t believe in the FBI “tampering” conspiracy. I think the allegations are a lot of smoke and mirrors. I wish the defense luck if it ever gets to that point since it’s hard to follow what the allegations claim happened.

I’m convinced there was no tampering because, if nothing else, Camila said during sentencing that Raniere took photos of her and had sex with her when she was 15.

Also, the defense argued the photos should be thrown out because they were too old, not because Raniere did not take them.

I believe Camila and the others who testified under oath.

They seem credible. None of the people who still support Raniere have said anything under oath, and none seem credible.

Their ridiculous argument – that this is NOT about Keith Raniere but about JUSTICE – is not credible. They want Raniere released because they don’t believe he is guilty of any crimes, even though he was convicted of many.

They don’t seem to care about the people Raniere manipulated, enslaved, raped, stole from, lied to, or humiliated.

It is appalling.

Even if I believed the weird “tampering” thing, Raniere was imprisoned for more than child pornography.

Even if that charge was thrown out, he would still be guilty of all the other charges.

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  • Hello Ann,

    To address some of your comments:

    Regarding Moira Penza, if this was a slam dunk case and the man was the most obviously guilty defendant in US history, and it turns out that she cheated and her team tampered with evidence, it means that she’s done it before, and with defendants who may have been innocent.

    You can despise Raniere and everything he stands for, and at the same time recognize that the prosecutors might be a bunch of cheats.

    Regarding Sarah Edmondson, I am not obsessed with her. I am confused that she and Vicente are the lead plaintiffs in a lawsuit against former members of an organization that they played leadership roles in. Especially since some of the people they’re suing did not have leadership roles. I’m confused that she hasn’t taken any heat for having done things to people, such as performing EMs, when people who haven’t done those things have taken heat for them.

    Regarding the DOS women, I want to hear what they have to say, especially when their perspectives contradict those of people who’ve been given lots of publicity. I am open to listening to both sides.

    That they didn’t testify isn’t an implication that they did anything wrong. If the prosecutors played dirty, they could have made threats. We don’t know.

    Regarding the testimony of those who did take the stand, some were given immunity from crimes they had committed in exchange for their testimony. Some were financially rewarded. And some were covering their own rear ends.

    That’s why I want to see actual hard evidence, not just accusations and testimony and the smut from some of the television documentaries. Especially when the people behind them cannot be trusted.

    When you hear “forced labor'” do you think of grown women voluntarily transcribing an interview for a friend’s memorial service? Of course not. You think of sweatshops, of child labor, of immigrants being trafficked and restaurant managers garnishing the pay of their employees, especially young teen, via wage theft.

    And I promise you that Moira Penza and her crew don’t have a care in the world for those kinds of people who experience those kinds of things.

    • Ohhhhhh okay.

      Just a typical response when a person is “confused” about another.

      Attacking their family. And their ability to be a safe, healthy mother to their young children.

      And telling everyone that you want to shit in their coffee mug.

      Just normal, healthy non obsessive, not creepy “confusion” about a total
      stranger, Kevin.

      Ohhhhh. Okay. You’re so clever and convincing.

      What. A. Jerk.

  • I think Kevin is Danielle Roberts. If you see her IG videos, she uses the same vocabulary, same messy grammar and loathes Edmondson and Penza. Sound familiar?

    • The funny thing about being accused of being other people is that I’m probably one of the few here who isn’t doing that. I use my real first name.

    • “I think Kevin is Danielle Roberts. If you see her IG videos, she uses the same vocabulary, same messy grammar and loathes Edmondson and Penza. Sound familiar?

      I guess if you can’t address any of Kevin’s arguments you can always make up something like “Kevin is actually Danielle Roberts”.

      That “shifter strategy” will probably spare you the discomfort of having to think about Kevin’s challenges to your existing beliefs, but it looks like it’s working on fewer and fewer people here on the Frank Report.

      Whoever Kevin is, he/she/it is making irresistible arguments that are getting through to more and more retarded anticultists.

      Alanzo

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      I love both.

      Alanzo

      • Shit! Alanzo finally said something which didn’t involve anti-cultism, tribalism, gloryholes, or doxxing. Fucking miracle!

      • Finally found some common ground with Alanzo and Shadow: Weird Al’s version “Amish Paradise” is brilliant.

  • Well said, Ann, though in fairness Camila did not testify under oath.

    I believe that many of us suspect that Kevin is none other than Nicki Clyne:

    * ‘Kevin’ is almost an anagram of ‘Nicki’

    * “we need to talk about Kevin” is a movie Nicki has written about

    * Kevin Kline (OK, different spelling) is a famous actor; Nicki Clyne, unfortunately for her, is not

    * their writing styles are remarkably similar (discourse analysis), though Kevin/Nicki tries to throw us off the scent by inserting obvious grammatical/spelling mistakes inconsistently, while falsely pretending they don’t give a shit about Raniere

    * the most telling thing is they share identical views on, and are always banging on about, Sarah Edmondson. Why??

    Well, correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t it Sarah who initially recruited Nicki into NXIVM? And she got paid for it! Just read the rabid vitriol about Sarah in Clyne’s Motions to Dismiss the lawsuit. She was pissed, really pissed!

    Of course it was also Sarah who spilled the beans on DOS, that ‘thriving’ little community that was Nicki’s whole life, her raison d’etre. Wow, that had to hurt…

    Nice to think that Nicki’s in touch with her non-binary side. So is it ‘they/them’ now, Nicki/Kevin? You should pin it to your Twitter account. Perhaps the woke in you is at last awakening?

    • If someone brought you into an organization, and then sued you for it, and for other things they actually did to you, you wouldn’t be upset by it?

    • “Well said, Ann, though in fairness Camila did not testify under oath.”

      She did at the sentencing hearing. She testified more under oath than any of the deadenders. They have ZERO justification in criticizing the word of those who did when they never did, especially Nicki who would’ve plead the 5th if she was called to the stand. NXIVM seemed to attract some of the worst hypocrites.

  • Well said, Ann, though in fairness Camila did not testify under oath.

    I believe that many of us suspect that Kevin is none other than Nicki Clyne:

    * ‘Kevin’ is almost an anagram of ‘Nicki’
    * “we need to talk about Kevin” is a movie Nicki has written about
    * Kevin Kline (OK, different spelling) is a famous actor; Nicki Clyne, unfortunately for her, is not
    * their writing styles are remarkably similar (discourse analysis), though Kevin/Nicki tries to throw us off the scent by inserting obvious grammatical/spelling mistakes inconsistently, while falsely pretending they don’t give a shit about Raniere
    * the most telling thing is they share identical views on, and are always banging on about, Sarah Edmondson. Why??

    Well, correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t it Sarah who initially recruited Nicki into NXIVM? And she got paid for it! Just read the rabid vitriol in Clyne’s Motions to Dismiss the lawsuit. She was pissed, really pissed! Of course it was also Sarah who spilled the beans on DOS, that ‘thriving’ little community that was Nicki’s whole life, her raison d’etre. Wow, that had to hurt…

    Nice to think that Nicki’s in touch with her non-binary side. So is it ‘they/them’ now, Nicki/Kevin? You should pin it to your Twitter account. Perhaps the woke in you is awakening?

  • Can we please stop with the photos of Danielle practicing yoga? I’m so sick of looking at those huge feet.

    She looks like a troll doll from the 90s. Yeah, I know I sound like an asshole. But I’m maxed out.

    • Frankie has no scruples or awareness of his pathological obsessions. Unstable people never question that they are affected.

      Send good vibes his ways.

      • Don’t you think you ought to have accident insurance? Enough to cover doctors and hospital bills. Say $1250 a week cash benefit. And you’d rate around $500,000 capital sum. In case you get killed.

          • Mr. Skullinski, I’m a writer, I have not threatened you. I have a special practice; I handle one website. Now you have my number; I’ll wait for your call…by the way, I admire your trolling very much.

    • I like Danielle’s yoga photo’s. Lighting and setting is superb: the patches of snow outside contrast beautifully with soft light and warm glow inside by rays of evening sunlight, entering through a large window. The photos are sharp and professionally made.
      And she herself is pleasing to the eye: her physique, fitness and flexibility are astounding. A female in in top physical shape without an ounce of fat too much or too little (Nicky take notice).
      So, Frank, keep posting the yoga photo’s please!

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His work to expose and take down NXIVM is featured in books like “Captive” by Catherine Oxenberg, “Scarred” by Sarah Edmonson, “The Program” by Toni Natalie, and “NXIVM. La Secta Que Sedujo al Poder en México” by Juan Alberto Vasquez.

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