The other day Frank Report noted that DOS slave Michele Hatchette was wearing Allison Mack’s white dress – when Michele announced on Instagram that the Forgotten One dancers would not be dancing nightly at the Brooklyn Metropolitan Detention Center as they had been doing for weeks.
Was Michele Hatchette Wearing Allison Mack’s Dress a Message to Mack?
Normally, at these MDC dances, Michele dressed casually, if not provocatively, [considering she was dancing for male prisoners who have no contact with women] in shorts and a tank top, but when she made the announcement, she was wearing a white dress, which seems to be the same dress her slave master, Allison Mack, had formerly worn.
After Frank Report published the photo of Michele and commented that it was apparently the same white dress Allison had worn, some speculated that Michele was sending a message to Allison, perhaps in response to Allison’s communications with their group.
It is possible, some speculated, that Allison, living at her parent’s home in Los Alamitos, California, subject to home arrest, has access to a computer and can get online to see her old slaves – Michele and Dr. Danielle Roberts – and her legal spouse, Nicki Clyne. She might even be able to glimpse her slave master, the Vanguard, peering out of his prison window.
She may have needed to repudiate Keith to try to lessen her prison sentence.
One of Allison’s defenders wrote in a comment on Frank Report, denying speculation that Allison is communicating with Nxivm or DOS members. The commenter wrote,
She is not [a DOS member any more ], and she can’t have access to that info… She is still forbidden to use the internet. She is done [with Raniere] and I doubt this dress means anything but some kind of present for Raniere himself. Reminder, this dress might have been worn by Allison but nothing proves it’s hers. It was used during an event …to please Raniere.
This may be true. But Mack’s defender does not say how he or she knows that Mack is done with Raniere or not in communication with anyone in Nxivm. Maybe Allison is fully out of Nxivm. But we have evidence to the contrary.
A former Nxivm member, who is also a former friend of Allison’s and a completely reliable source – and who has given me numerous leads, every one of which wound up being totally true – told me that Allison is in communication with at least one Nxivm member. My source knows this because she is in communication with various members, ex-members, and those who are on the fence.
It seems, that some of them, and at least one directly, have been working on Allison – and apparently, this little girl is still conflicted.
According to my source, on some days she is angry at Keith for his letting her get into this horrible position. She trusted him and now she is about to go to prison. She is infamous throughout America and other places in the world. She got more publicity than anyone else in the cult. And it embarrassed her and her family. She is angry with Keith over that.
On the other hand, she misses him deeply, misses her life with him, and misses her sister-wives and the joy of being a slave and slave master. She had hoped one day to have his babies and raise them along with his other children with his other wives – all together. A brood of Raniere children.
She misses Jness and the women gathering together and supporting each other, learning more about what it means to be a woman, all of them united with the single goal or empowering women by being subservient to one beautiful man.
Of course, if it is true that Allison is in touch with anyone in Nxivm, she is in violation of her bail conditions and if the feds find out and can prove it, it may go harder on her when she is sentenced.
I think that would be unfortunate. I think she deserves mercy. If she is still talking to a Nxivm member, it is possibly because she is still brainwashed.
She would be well advised, even if she longs for the good old days when Keith was her sex-slaver master, to cease communications with Nxivm members. If I know about it, through the Nxivm network, then others know about it also, and that includes the Feds.
My advice to Allison is simple: Don’t make a terrible mistake and wind up getting a harsher sentence. Talking and texting on Telegram on a burner phone may not be sufficient to eliminate the chance of being caught, especially since the other party may also be caught and the Feds may be looking at this too.
Do yourself a favor. Get sentenced. Do your time and then, if you still have a compulsion to rejoin Nxivm, do it when it won’t cost you added prison time.
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What about letting it go instead of going with your false stories and rumors?
“It is possible, some speculated, that Allison, living at her parent’s home in Los Alamitos, California, subject to home arrest, has access to a computer and can get online to see her old slaves”
No it isn’t, she isn’t interested in this and her parent would never let her do it as it’s their house that is in the balance (remember the 5 millions dollars reclaimed for her “semi freedom”?)
“She may have needed to repudiate Keith to try to lessen her prison sentence.”
No, she was cooperating since the arrest and wanted to bail out before her arrest…but she was stuck because of the coercive material against her (which is now out of the equation) and your accusations (which ended up not that accurate)
“This may be true. But Mack’s defender does not say how he or she knows that Mack is done with Raniere or not in communication with anyone in Nxivm.”
And why should i say…let’s play devil’s advocate here:
Should the one accusing proving the point instead ?
And i don’t have to prove it, take it or leave it , it’s not like fact is usually considered around here…rumors are funnier.
“A former Nxivm member, who is also a former friend of Allison’s and a completely reliable source – and who has given me numerous leads, every one of which wound up being totally true – told me that Allison is in communication with at least one Nxivm member.”
First no friend of Allison would talk about this and certainly not here…secondly, the numerous leads like what?
Nothing you said about Allison ended up true…even the things the victim pointed ended up differently in court.
and excuse me but a FORMER nxvim member and FORMER friend…and you believe that this FORMER contact is knowing things that her actual REAL friend don’t know?
Once again, believe what you want…it’s not like you care for the fact before.
“She got more publicity than anyone else in the cult. And it embarrassed her and her family. She is angry with Keith over that.”
This is the only part true but she isn’t between two…she is done with Nxivm and lost contact with actual members…a few ancient tried to reach her but she isn’t open (atleast not now).
And you point she is afraid of jail and i remind you that her “home arrest” specify “no contact with member or former members”…you think for 1 second she would risk her parents home and her freedom for this?
What this source said is obvious (the part she hate raniere) but the rest is nothing but another false story. leave her alone, forget about her and let her heal instead of blowing false info that could make the authorities send her back in jail while she did NOTHING.
“I think that would be unfortunate. I think she deserves mercy. If she is still talking to a Nxivm member, it is possibly because she is still brainwashed.”
And carrying the kind of lies this article is about is certainly not showing mercy to her…
Once again, Allison’s TRUE friend don’t give anything private…most will not even comment on her case as Allison isn’t a fan of this.
This is why some do it anonymously and try to give as little info as possible.
Anyone pretending to know personnally Allison (at this point) and bringing damaging info is a definately not what they pretend as the people around Allison are limited in number and only her best friends (and those who trully wish her the best)
You come back with this dress which is obviously not in Allison’s possession and try to make it say something it isn’t…
Once again, this dress is raniere’s pleasure…this dress was worn by Allison for his pleasure and is worn by Michelle for the same reason.
It’s aimed at raniere , not Allison.
“She would be well advised, even if she longs for the good old days when Keith was her sex-slaver master, to cease communications with Nxivm members. If I know about it, through the Nxivm network, then others know about it also, and that includes the Feds.”
Excuse me but the Nxivm network have no reason to be trusted and Allison isn’t longing for those good old days but those before her time in Nxivm.
To be honest, she might miss some of the people she met as they weren’t bad but none of the loony found seen at the MDC or those still in.
“Do yourself a favor. Get sentenced. Do your time and then, if you still have a compulsion to rejoin Nxivm, do it when it won’t cost you added prison time.”
You do know she isn’t reading you? just to be sure…
Can’t seem to reply below so
source wrote:
“August 4, 2020 at 10:59 am
==A former Nxivm member, who is also a former friend of Allison’s and a completely reliable source==
fits KK to a T”
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Although she’s obviously been a source for Frank, I’ve never seen Kristin Keefe described as a friend of Allison. Sounds more like Sarah Edmondson or Bonnie Piesse. Mack had the baby shower video for Edmondson and sang at her wedding, and I think they traveled together to Europe when Mack first joined NXIVM, while Piesse and Mack were both in that Simply Human group together before their falling out.
Maybe KK refers to Kristin Kreuk—sticking a knife in her old BFF to keep the heat off herself
What! Hello!! Did you miss the part where Frank wrote that this former member and former friend has been, “a completely reliable source”? If Kreuk had been a source for Frank the last few years, he wouldn’t have written so incessantly about her. He’d have been treating her the way he treats Karen Unterreiner, I mean Karen U, and Kristin Keefe. LOL
It takes years to break free of trauma bonding, and that is the nature of her bond with Raniere. It’s not the same as Stockholm Syndrome, but there are commonalities. She could be compared to a battered wife who always returns to her husband because “When he’s nice, he’s really nice.” But that it isn’t it either. Think more of the Uyghur people who are in Chinese camps, bombarded with indoctrination and taking part in self-abasement sessions every day. Brainwashing is a much over-used term, but it is possible to deeply damage a person’s sense of self and idea of what is real.
I think the Raniere’s mind bending was designed to do exactly that. ‘Rational Enquiry’ was designed to be nothing less than the unearthing and manipulation of a persons inner world. It was a process of deconstruction and reconstruction.
A healthy mind is best left alone. We all have our quirks and inconsistencies, strengths and weaknesses, but we get by mostly OK. A healthy mind is not a perfectly functioning mechanism, but it is a mechanism that works well enough. Constantly drawing attention to a person’s weaknesses is very harmful. This is what Raniere did. Constantly. When we do something silly, our inner self notices, and we tell ourselves that we made a mistake, and idecide not to do it again.
Raniere sought, and in some cases succeeded, in replacing that inner voice with his own. This is wickedness of a very high order. It is the exact opposite of what you do if you want a person to learn to trust their own judgment, grow, and become a more self-reliant person.
This is more than likely where Nicky and Allison are in their inner lives.
To be honest, I’m not confident that it can be fixed without some extended time in a good therapeutic facility. By that, I do not mean some sterile locked ward. That would just be a prison with a nicer name.
But they are not beyond hope of some kind of progress, if ALL ties are completely and permanently severed with the source of the damage.
That is an absolute must.
==A former Nxivm member, who is also a former friend of Allison’s and a completely reliable source==
fits KK to a T
Although she’s obviously been a source for Frank, I’ve never seen Kristin Keefe described as a friend of Allison. Sounds more like Sarah Edmondson or Bonnie Piesse. Mack had the baby shower video for Edmondson and sang at her wedding, and I think they traveled together to Europe when Mack first joined NXIVM, while Piesse and Mack were both in that Simply Human group together before their falling out.
a former nxivm member who is also a former friend fits many people but is certainly not a reliable source…
FORMER friend don’t have access to her…
It’s possible that somebody just made all of this up and told it to your source. They might know that she is in contact with you.
Anything is possible. But this source is possibly the single most reliable source I have in Nxivm. And it has been corroborated by a second, albeit allied source.
Right…Sadly you haven’t pointed which info this “reliable source” gave… reminder that most of the things said at the beginning and even after ended up not to be accurate during the trial.
And once again , former anything have no link with Allison so i doubt it’s reliable.
That is what I thought anonymous. Surely, they will see these stories and have their suspicions on who it could be and tell different tales to different people and see which tale ends up in Frank Report. It’s dangerous being a source like this. Keep safe source
I cannot think of any reason why Allison is still married to Nicki Clyne other than Allison is still wanting to be in Nxivm. It would send a message to the judge prior to her sentencing that she is done and out if she got a divorce. The fact that they are still married will possibly add more time to her sentence. I think it is very foolish of her to remain married.
Love is blind. LOL
Or the fact that she is still waiting her sentence… divorcing would require her to have the right to get out for to ask it…she isn’t allowed to get out (and especially not at the moment).
Also, divorcing before sentencing would give the prosecution the possibility to advance that it’s a fake marriage and sue Allison for this (immigration fraud).
She isn’t in contact with anyone from Nxivm.
So Allison Mack is mad that she got caught.
Forget the women who were harmed.
According to Ivy Nevares, Nicki Clyne is as guilty as Allison Mack of blackmail and trafficking women
Ivy Nevares
@ivynevares
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Jul 25
2/6 #DOS is the sex-cult that convicted sex-trafficker and pedophile #KeithRaniere started. @nickiclyne
was named a co-conspirator in the fed’s case against Raniere and, like @allisonmack
, is responsible for blackmailing and trafficking women, subjecting them to forced labor…
https://twitter.com/ivynevares/status/1287090718188740612
An anonymous NXIVM insider wrote the same in the Frank Report in 2018.
Is Allison Mack Charger426hemi1 or in touch with a NXIVM member who is Charger?
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If you don’t like the brilliant and talented Allison mack feel free to move along
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Yes shadow, but unfortunately you don’t [redacted].
Why are you redacting the words “move along„ Frank? I did by far not say anything insulting.
Weren’t you asking one of our commenters to stop presenting his point of view? Or claiming he was needlessly redundant? Maybe I misunderstood.
One thing about charger is her lame pictures lately, maybe charger is just a fan stalker. Message to Ms Mack, give us some better pictures please. I doubt the judge will give you any more time for being online.
She has probably run out of suitable photos and would not want to post photos of herself with Clare, Sara, Nancy, Lauren, Nicki and other NXIVM notables.
That’s good advise for any one but I’m certain Allison is not violating court orders by reading it, that she is truly, deeply repentant and has sought out professional help to heal and deprogram herself.
Fully agree
Heidi, don’t believe everything you read here (well it’s an advice , anyway)…
Allison is not violating any court orders in any way…
I’ll just remind a few word about this “source” : FORMER nxivm member and FORMER friend…
At the moment , Allison is in contact with a small amount of people but REAL friends.
None would dare to try to make her go back in jail (with false statements) …Allison is under scrutiny by the prison office and she CAN’T cheat.
She isn’t trying anyway.
She has regret about her past but not her past in Nxivm…her past PRE nxivm.
This whole false story could hurt her more than anything if one give too much credit to these lies.
Since NXIVM is an off shoot of Scientology according to Rick Ross this story is relevant.
Possible Democratic VP candidate Karen Bass praises Scientology and its founder L. Ron Hubbard.
All Praise to Lord Xenu!
Resurfaced Video Shows Top Biden VP Pick Karen Bass Praising Scientology
Frank Parlato and Catherine Oxenberg made a valiant effort to reach Allison Mack and warn her about Raniere/
She ignored them.
She will remain a member of the NXIVM family.
If you read Clare Bronfman’s allocution it reads almost the same as Allison Mack’s.
That’s because the same lawyer wrote both of them. LOL
A Bronfman lawyer, Scott.
I wasn’t aware in hot weather that a tank top and shorts were considered provocative clothing. That sounds as bad as a man saying a woman was asking for it because of the way she was dressed.
You constantly aim to shame them as women. It’s quite sad.
It wasn’t just the clothes, it was the erotic dancing as well. LOL
Go ahead and dress like you want, but when a crazed nutjob rapes you don’t come looking in my direction for any sympathy. LOL
“Go ahead and dress like you want, but when a crazed nutjob rapes you don’t come looking in my direction for any sympathy. LOL”
[redacted] The way a woman dresses shouldn’t justify rape! It’s this [redacted] that women must be stifled by bras and turtle necks or else be raped by a man.
Thank you for proving my point regarding Frank and his readers. They get off on shaming women clearly and thinking its “LOL” to joke about rape.
I never joke about rape. There is nothing funny about it – ever.
Well Frank, you did allow the
“LOL ” comment joking about rape and considering you review comments prior….So you must be okay with your readers saying it.
Is Sarah Edmondson still in contact with Allison Mack? Or is she still in contact with someone who is?
Edmondson claimed in her book “Scarred” that she cut off all social media ties to Mack, Clyne and Lauren Salzman.
That’s not what Edmondson wrote in her book. Edmondson wrote that she kicked Mack, Clyne, Clare, and anyone still loyal to NXIVM off of the Vancouver ESP community page on Facebook. According to interviews Edmondson did earlier this year, she was still trying to reach out to Nicki Clyne but Clyne has cut her off. And anyone following Allison Mack’s social media accounts in 2017 could tell that she was the one purging her social media and cutting people off.
Sarah isn’t in contact and she can’t (Allison would be violating her court orders)…
Plus Sarah blamed too much while knowing that Allison wasn’t that implicate, she isn’t the most welcome.
“…and apparently this LITTLE GIRL is still conflicted.” (my bold)
Really, Frank? This is that cutsie-wootsie Allison Mack imagining, even at age 38? When does the widdle Poké-Munchkin get to be called a “woman” instead of being miscast as Alice in Wonderland? For crying out loud, Allison doesn’t need any more excuses for making incompetent decisions.
She was,and perhaps still is, idolizing Keith Raniere, a conscious harmer of others, who, among many other criminal activities, raped and nearly destroyed the entire life of a young pre-teen girl named Rhiannon. A REAL little girl! Not someone like Allison Mack.
That Anonymous comment about the nonexistence of Allison Mack as a Poké Munchkin is from me, Shivani. Via the mysticism of being all thumbs and quite inadvertently, apparently some purgatory of anonymity is attempting to ingest me.
Very luckily, Ken had just sent over some brownies. Ooh. Or is that Brownies?
😂 stahhhp Shivani LMFAO
Geez. She’s acting pathetic. This guy is nothing but a parasite. He broke her, manipulated her, ruined her past relationships, swapped a normal family life with his sick version of it (women her age with less have kids approaching their teens if not there already), a career many who’ve tried harder for have failed to attain and would’ve loved to have, etc. He gave her nothing and only brainwashed her into believing that he gave her something, but from an objective point of view and not within the confines of his sick cult environment, he took everything from her. Fucking move on. Stop being stuck in a mental prison built on an illusion. He’s proved from his behavior that he’s not going to change and offers nothing.
Mack was already pretty f*cked up before she met Raniere. LOL
Assuming this would be true which I have my doubts about, then you know that you just outed her publicly! Is this your goal?
It is already out there among the Nxivm people. It is better she knows about it and stops talking at once to other Nxivm members.
Keith always used symbols. Wearing the same dress has a big meaning. The dress did not match the occasion of the prison. It was probably to say something to Alisson. Frank, I think understands Nxvim dynamics very well.
No frank, you outed this to hurt her…this is why you did the first story. Without checking if it was accurate (and it wasn’t)
And here, again, you relay on a rumor to try to destroy her further and then pretend you are a caring person…
Atleast be honest as your actions are conflicting with what you pretend.
And once again, there is only 1 thing that is true in this accusation:
Allison hate raniere.
the rest is nothing more than a fairy tale.
“Anonymous
August 2, 2020 at 2:57 pm
Assuming this would be true which I have my doubts about, then you know that you just outed her publicly! Is this your goal?”
I have assumed for some time that Ms. Mack was still in touch with people in NXIVM.
Sure, she would do this and let anyone know about it. So that she gets in more trouble. And, of course, make sure that it eventually shows up on Frank Report! I think I know who this former “friend” is, who could have worked well for German STASI! Allison’s real friends would not give any information to you.
Her so called “real friends” would undoubtedly like to see her stay in the cult.
I’m not talking about Nxvim friends. But I would even understand if she goes back to them because most people who left rejected her.
Anonymous, don’t worry, she was rejected by ex nxivm (and even if not, they couldn’t talk to her, it’s part of the court orders) but her real friends who aren’t member of Nxivm are around her, protecting and caring for her…
If anything, Allison knows she is more love now than ever.
Her real friend have nothing to do with Nxivm frank…your action could make her fall back.
and once again, you relay on FORMER people who have no contact with her…
And when someone say the contrary , they have to prove it.
Who is accusing Allison to commit a crime (yet again) ? and once again without the slightest proof…
The anonymous you answered to is right: NO REAL FRIEND OF ALLISON WOULD GIVE ANY INFORMATION TO YOU…
Glad that you’re back, Anonymous. Was hoping you would comment on that matter.
If Mack is communicating with Raniere, she needs to be sentenced to the maximum punishment in prison, which I believe is 40 years. LOL
“But we have evidence to the contrary”. No, we don’t! It’s hearsay and this person has not talked to Allison in person! It is possible that she misses her Jness friends though, that’s a natural human emotion and not a crime. The judge might be even informed about this, and this is to repair her relationships or for deprogramming. This is what you’re best at Frank, speculating shit.
Brainwashing is a valid excuse if you live in North Korea, not so much if you live in Albany.
Brainwashing doesn’t exist no matter where you live. LOL
Right, there is no such thing as brainwashing. All those people in Jonestown just wanted to commit suicide and thought hey we’re all here now why don’t we take advantage and do it?
Thank you for agreeing with me, there is no such thing as brainwashing: https://jonestown.sdsu.edu/?page_id=80836 LOL
In terms of the original concept, it may not, but what is in that article is in tune with the way the concept of “brainwashing” is understood today. The term is certainly used very lightly, but be it “thought reform” or “indoctrination” people cannot be the same as they used to be.
Sorry, Frank, now it’s getting ridiculous 😂 Wondering what a horrible friend this must be who is giving you such information. If she really has contact, it doesn’t mean necessarily that she still is under his spell. Could it be a former member maybe? When people get out of cults, it’s very common that they talk to former members about their experiences during exit counseling. I’m sure she would not risk this without the judge knowing, and especially not while living with her parents. I find it wrong to speculate about this you can cause a lot of harm with such claims as you did in the past.
It’s not a former member but a Nxivm member she is specifically not supposed to speak to. It is time for Allison to smarten up and stop this before she gets into more trouble.
Don’t worry, it’s nobody, the reality is she is fine and out of nxivm…
If Clyne is Mack’s legal spouse, how can the court bar them from communicating or even living together? Clyne has not been charged.
I have heard that house arrest time does not count against time served, but having severe restrictions on movement, internet access, etc. seems like a form of punishment that should be factored into time served. After all, Mack is not allowed to live a normal free life while on bail.
There are many in the legal community – judges, criminal defense attorneys, etc. – who agree with you (I personally think that each day of pre-sentencing home confinement should count for 1/2 day of time served). But politicians are generally afraid to do anything that makes it appear they are “soft” on crime.
Can we get credit for a future prison sentence since we are confined during the coronavirus? LOL
As Baretta would say, “Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time”.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Baretta+theme+song&view=detail&mid=9836865F31C475EC679A9836865F31C475EC679A&FORM=VIRE0&ru=%2fsearch%3fq%3dBaretta%2520theme%2520song%26qs%3dn%26form%3dQBRE%26sp%3d-1%26pq%3dbaretta%2520theme%2520song%26sc%3d6-18%26sk%3d%26cvid%3d1ECC517C66CC495E8E4CEAD0EA36197A
Is that a yes or a no? LOL
I don’t think any of us are living normal lives right now. Allison should take Frank’s advise. We know for sure Lauren Salzman uses her phone at Starbucks and Nancy plays on Pinterest. I know it’s going to be very tough for them when they are sentenced. I really hope, for her sake, that she doesn’t take that Queen Allison attitude to prison if she expects to make it without an ass whooping.
On what basis can the judge keep Mack from seeing her lawfully wedded wife?
What a madhouse they’ve been living in!