“The Rat” is an anonymous commenter who made a single comment on John Tighe’s Saratoga In Decline blog – on October 24, 2010 at 4:34 PM.
It is a stunning comment because, when the Rat made it, it was not publicly known that Keith Raniere had a history of statutory rape.
And the purported suicides of Gina Hutchinson and Kristin Snyder were all but forgotten, except by those who knew them.
No one was blaming Raniere then. No one was pointing a finger at him for the little girls he molested or the women who died or disappeared.
This was 2010. Almost a year and a half before the Albany Times Union published their first report on Raniere’s suspected sex with underage girls.
Yet the Rat, whoever the Rat is, came out with these allegations – of Raniere’s two most heinous crimes, statutory rape and possibly hyper- assisted suicide or murder [there is a grey line between them], years before these allegations came to the fore.
They came vividly to the fore – the statutory rape and possibility of murder – in 2019. The first at his trial and the second in a documentary two-hour film I coordinated and appeared in for Discovery ID, called “The Lost Women of Nxivm” [which airs Sunday, Dec, 8, at 9 PM ET.]
The Albany Times Union brought out the rapes and the suicides – noting it was suicide [Kristin Snyder and Gina Hutchinson] – nothing more than suicide – in 2012 – in their landmark series The Secrets of Nxivm and in particular one of the series In Raniere’s Shadow.
I began exposing the same issues, but questioning the “suicide” of Kristin Snyder, after Elaine Smiloff, the last woman known to have seen Kristin Snyder alive, contacted me in August 2017 to tell me that Kristin told her she was pregnant.
But before all that – from out the blue – comes the Rat – in October 2010 – when things were going well for Raniere, when he had Bronfman millions at his disposal, a harem of women, beautiful actresses recruiting for him – the Rat gave a shocking disclosure.
Nothing was done about it. But some never forgot the Rat and that single comment.
Just put it in context – of what we now know about Gina and Kristin Snyder.
The Rat said [and this is the Rat’s spelling and punctuation] exactly as it appeared:
by the time they read this, I will have gone back to mexico with edgar. i served as their pawn for too long (like jim). i see my responsibiy in the deaths of both kristen’s friend in the monistary and ester’s friend in AK. He did not kill, I did for him. I put the idea in thier heads. It was suicide, so it could not be linked to me and keith. But we still encouraged it to happen.
At least those who died, had thier lives ended. What will come out in the future will be the young girls (who are now women) who were taken advantage of (how old was Angel, Megan, Michelle, and Rosie). I think if someone looks into Kristen’s friend (who was under age) and those other teenagers that worked for CBI they will see that he is a molester. That is what bothers me above all. Murder is one thing, thier lives are over. When you take advantage of girls who work for you and play video games in an emtpy warehouse after hours (Keith knows what I am talking about) that is sick.
If this isn’t enough, he did it again with the —- girls. Thier parents trusted you (Pam) with thier care and you (Keith) molested them. What is worse is what you did to their brother. You made him tape tape it all. Not just what happened with the girls, but also what happen with your girlfriends. No young boy should be exposed to that.
I am praying for the day that one of these victims comes forward…as they are innocent. I am guilty and can’t. Those in the inner circle will know who wrote this because I will be gone by the time they read it. I thought what I was supporting was humanity…I recently realized it was just the preversion of a sick man.
A total of 315 words that indicts Raniere as much as anything ever written.
It almost has to be from an insider for the Rat knows too much, way too much given that the time was October 2010.
Let us look at what the Rat really said. I will correct the spellings and grammar mistakes and make my comments in brackets. parenthetically.
By the time they read this, I will have gone back to Mexico with Edgar. [Boone?]
I served as their pawn for too long (like Jim) [Del Negro?]
I see my responsibility in the deaths of both Kristin’s[Keeffe’s] friend in the [Buddhist] monastery [in Woodstock NY where Gina Hutchinson’s body was found. Gina was a close friend of Keeffe’s] and Esther [Chiappone Carlson’s] friend in AK [Kristin Snyder. Kristin would have appeared to be Esther’s friend for Esther housed her when she came to Albany].
He [Keith Raniere] did not kill, I did [it] for him. I put the idea in their heads. It was suicide, so it could not be linked to me and Keith. But we still encouraged it to happen.
At least those who died, had their lives ended. What will come out in the future will be the young girls (who are now women) [and it did come out] who were taken advantage of (how old were Angel, Megan, Michelle, and Rosie). [underage girls who Raniere is suspected of statutorily raping]
I think if someone looks into Kristin’s friend (who was underage) [Gina] and those other teenagers that worked for CBI [Consumers’ Buyline, Raniere’s company before Nxivm] they will see that he is a molester.
That is what bothers me above all.
Murder is one thing. Their lives are over.
When you take advantage of girls who work for you and play video games in an empty warehouse after hours (Keith knows what I am talking about) that is sick.
If this isn’t enough, he did it again with the Fernandez girls. Their parents trusted you (Pam) [Cafritz] with their care and you (Keith) molested them. What is worse is what you did to their brother. You made him tape it all. Not just what happened with the girls, but also what happened with your girlfriends. No young boy should be exposed to that.
[Did Keith have Adrian ‘Fluffy’ Fernandez actually tape sex he had with women when Adrian was a teenager?]
I am praying for the day that one of these victims comes forward as they are innocent. I am guilty and can’t. Those in the inner circle will know who wrote this because I will be gone by the time they read it.
I thought what I was supporting was humanity… I recently realized it was just the perversion of a sick man.
Again, keep in mind the Rat wrote this comment in October 2010, one year, and four months before the Albany Times Union came out with their expose of Keith’s alleged pedophilia.
The Rat then was the first-ever public comment about Keith’s pedophilia. It turned out to be true.
It follows that the Rat’s other statement – about the assisted suicide – might be true.
But how much assistance was really given? Did it cross the line into murder?
Finally, who is the Rat? Who would have known this information and was around at the time? It’s hard to believe the Rat was a troll.
Either the Rat had some uncanny premonitions or the Rat knew about Keith and his statutory rape.
So again, if the Rat knew what few others had known – the rapes of children – did the Rat also know what really happened to Kristin Snyder and Gina Hutchinson?
[…] A commenter only known as “The Rat” made a prescient statement over ten years ago that alleged that Keith Raniere was a molester of underaged women. The Rat also implicated himself and Raniere in contributing to the deaths of Kristin Snyder and Gina Hutchinson. […]
Karen told Frank she didn’t know about the pedophilia stuff. So the only usual suspect that remains is Kristin. But she also denied any knowledge. Who else could it be? I’m curious about Frank’s third suspect.
Just a thought,,,,, Could KAR the psycho have multiple personalities? In the video where he claims to have had people killed for his beliefs, this did not align with a master criminal like mobster. More like a serial rapist with multiple personalities to cope with the evil he has done. Sorta reminded me of Danny Rawlings the Gainesville Rippers claims in his book. Think Rawlings referred to his “evil” persona as Ian.
Just a thought…
If I was raped as a kid, I would take advantage of the new NY law extending the statute of limitations and sue everyone involved and take depositions galore. My opinion, if that were me.
Fool me Not: Survivors of childhood sexual abuse experience long-term psychological effects which can make it difficult to take the sort of action you describe. From https://www.counseling.org/docs/disaster-and-trauma_sexual-abuse/long-term-effects-of-childhood-sexual-abuse.pdf?
Childhood sexual abuse has been correlated with higher levels of depression,
guilt, shame, self-blame, eating disorders, somatic concerns, anxiety, dissociative
patterns, repression, denial, sexual problems, and relationship problems.
Depression has been found to be the most common long-term symptom among
survivors. Survivors may have difficulty in externalizing the abuse, thus thinking
negatively about themselves (Hartman et al., 1987). After years of negative selfthoughts, survivors have feelings of worthlessness and avoid others because they believe
they have nothing to offer (Long et al., 2006). Ratican (1992) describes the symptoms of
child sexual abuse survivors’ depression to be feeling down much of the time, having
suicidal ideation, having disturbed sleeping patterns, and having disturbed eating patterns
Survivors often experience guilt, shame, and self-blame. It has been shown that
survivors frequently take personal responsibility for the abuse. When the sexual abuse is
done by an esteemed trusted adult it may be hard for the children to view the perpetrator
in a negative light, thus leaving them incapable of seeing what happened as not their
fault. Survivors often blame themselves and internalize negative messages about themselves. Survivors tend to display more self-destructive behaviors and experience
more suicidal ideation than those who have not been abused (Browne & Finkelhor,
. . . A study found that women survivors reported significantly more
medical concerns than did people who have not experienced sexual abuse.
. . . Stress and anxiety are often long-term effects of childhood sexual abuse.
Childhood sexual abuse can be frightening and cause stress long after the experience or
experiences have ceased. Many times survivors experience chronic anxiety, tension,
anxiety attacks, and phobias (Briere & Runtz, 1988, as cited in Ratican, 1992). A study
compared the posttraumatic stress symptoms in Vietnam veterans and adult survivors of
childhood sexual abuse. The study revealed that childhood sexual abuse is traumatizing
and can result in symptoms comparable to symptoms from war-related trauma (McNew
& Abell, 1995).
Since you have fortunately not experienced this childhood trauma and the likely long-term effects, I don’t feel that you can know exactly what you would do if it had happened to you. For the reasons stated above which include depression, nightmares and flashbacks, misplaced guilt and shame, self-destructive behaviors, feelings of worthlessness, and suicidal ideation, survivors of childhood sexual abuse may be too deep in their own psychological damage to take the sort of aggressive action that you imagine you would take.
None of the above was absolute. In other words, there are exceptions. Perhaps “Fool me Not” is one of those exceptions, just as I am an exception to speaking up about Amway and other MLM scams.
I know all about which you speak. Ditto battered women’s syndrome.
But I would SUE. its the way our society gets even.
I think the rat is Daniela the woman Raniere kept in her room at 12 Wilton For 2 years.
I don’t think she had that much insider knowledge, especially from several years earlier.
Rat= Dani: The timeline doesn’t fit. Daniela took her first intensive in Mexico in 2002, the same year that Gina Hutchinson died. Kristen’s disappearance was early 2003. The Rat has to be somebody who was there long enough to be more fully involved, not a teenager which Dani was at the time. And CBI was before Daniela’s time in NXIVM.
Like Natalie or Keeffe?
Next up – NataLIE claims to be ..THE RAT.
In retrospect, the “Rat” appears to have been spot on about VanSoonToBeFuckedForLife and his sordid group of enablers.
Who is or was around to know or to remember who left the group in October of 2010? Someone (supposedly) was in New York’s Nxivm atmosphere and left then. Maybe somebody remembers.
On the other hand, maybe the rat never really left but figured that if she said that she left, no one would suspect her. That comment might’ve come out of a desperate need to say something. There is only the word of the rat here, saying she “would be gone.”
The rat is a an unclever idiot. The rat is a looser, a whimp a liar. The rat knows nothing. Your a troll. Keith never loved anyone but himself. What a boring letter. Blah blah blah oink oink. The rat is weak a boring stupid idiot pig troll.
1) What is the likelihood of “The Rat” being a known NXIVM name? A US citizen? Mexican? A harem member? Frank, have you asked any of the top NXIVM people you know if they have any suspicions on who it is? Bare in mind, they would of ignored “The Rat’s” posts when they were still members.
2) When will you drop part 2 of the Necker Island pictures? John Tigue said he had over 300.
Am going to try to drop part two necker island tonight or tomorrow. As for the Rat – I have asked at least two people I suspect to be the Rat and both denied it. I have a third suspect in mind who I hope to chat with soon. As for their denials, I don’t know if I believe one of them.
I’m surprised Kristin Keeffe and Karen U haven’t told Frank who the Rat is. They were always 1 and 1A when I guessed the identity of our Rat friend.
I am on your bus! A1 or A2?
My Wild Card pick is either A1 or A2 confided, in the immediate emotional moment right after the suicide, to a confidant.
The confidant racked with the guilt of knowing such a horrific thing posted the truth to exorcise his or her guilt.
I do not mean this in jest. I am very serious.
Nxvim knew who this person posting was. I’m surprised they would post this and not worry about being killed. I think The Rat is dead or did give the FEDS info for immunity. Otherwise why has nobody heard from them since?
” I think The Rat did give the FEDS info for immunity. ” Nataschka.
If the “Rat” gave the Feds info for immunity, I would expect the Feds to indict several people for the strange circumstances surrounding the deaths of Kristin Snyder and Gina Hutchinson.
Under the Federal RICO law, it is a crime to “conspire” to murder someone.
The statute of limitations for such a crime would be at least 20 years.
And the”Rat” talks about going to Mexico.
Could this person be someone who is off our radar screen?
An unexpected witness who has not been previously speculated about?
In any event, I urge this person to contact Frank Parlato and help solve these mysterious deaths and, if necessary, get immunity with Frank Parlato’s help.
To the “Rat”:
Please don’t call yourself a “Rat”!
The only Rats in this story are Keith Raniere and the people who enabled him for so many years.
Enabled Raniere to molest children and even to kill young “inconvenient” women.
I believe you are basically a good person.
A person who was outraged by the crimes you saw committed at NXIVM.
A person who wants to do the Right Thing.
And now the Right Thing is to come forward and discuss the crimes of Keith Raniere and his many enablers.
Not only will you be exposing Raniere to the whole world for the molester and murderer he is but you will be exposing his many enablers who conspired with him to violate children and murder people.
And you will be bringing closure to the friends and families of Kristin Snyder and Gina Hutchinson.
Frank Parlato has volunteered to hear your story and to help you obtain immunity for your truthful testimony.
I know that you, with Frank Parlato’s help can bring an end to this nightmare. Shadow State.
The Rat picked the perfect name: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rat but needs to provide a lot more specifics, because what has been provided so far isn’t enough. Of course, this assumes this person is still alive and/or decides to change their mind about providing more information.
I am almost certain your heartfelt letter to Rat will induce him to come forward, and end this “nightmare”.
Speaking of nightmares, imagine a young actress bombarded by creepy, unwanted emails from a much older man. A man who seemingly has nothing better to do with his life.
I wonder if the talent management team of Diane Hardin and Judy Savage has had any experience with this?
“Speaking of nightmares, imagine a young actress bombarded by creepy, unwanted emails from a much older man. A man who seemingly has nothing better to do with his life.”
For the last eighteen months, Allison Pimp Mack has been under a court order to not be on the internet for fear that she will try to use nude photos to blackmail young women and obstruct justice.
If she is on the internet, then she is violating a court order.
Of course, any person who would engage in blackmail and extortion does not give a damn about obeying the law.
“I wonder if the talent management team of Diane Hardin and Judy Savage has had any experience with this?”
If these two women are talent managers, they will not waste any time trying to find roles for a filthy extortionist like Allison Pimp Mack to play in movies or TV shows.
No one wants their children to be entertained by a perverted gangster-like Allison Pimp Mack.
Why did you antagonize Shadow? He had tapered back noticeably! Of course he is going to respond in kind, anyone would.
“Hey, Michelle, You’ve got a beautiful cunt.” Allison Pimp Mack.
Gems From Trial: Allison Mack Tells Nude Slave She Has ‘Beautiful Cunt’
All of Them Witches,
If you noticed the older “man” in question has cutback significantly on his posts regarding said actress. Please, could you cut him some slack, I have.
Mr. Shadow just had a relapse.
NXIVM members are so stupid that they don’t know not to poke the Bear.
That’s why all NXIVM members deserve to get mauled by the Bear’s claws.