Toni Natalie Says In Her Book That She and Raniere Had Phenomenal Sex; Told Others He Was a Slug in Bed and She Had to Suck His Nipples While He Played the Woman

In her book, The Program: Inside the Mind of Keith Raniere and the Rise and Fall of NXIVM, Toni Natalie describes Keith Raniere’s exceptional lovemaking skills:

She writes, “When you had a conversation with Keith, you felt like he was focusing 100 percent of his attention on you and only you. It was the same thing when you kissed him. You were the every and the all, the alpha and the omega. His lovemaking skills, too, were exceptional. He was giving and generous, but also fully in command. Five minutes after climax, most men are ready for bed; five minutes after climax, Keith was ready for more. His demonic ability to regenerate his carnal energy, to rise again and again to the occasion, was astonishing…

“I had not had sex of any kind for almost three years—and even then, my partner had been, at best, uninterested. Going from Rusty to Keith was like upgrading from a paper plane to a Concorde.”

Toni Natalie serves Keith a beverage [1998].
This does not comport with what Toni told me and several others over the years about Keith’s lovemaking skills.

Heidi Hutchinson was one of Toni’s longtime confidantes.

Heidi told Frank Report, “Toni Natalie told me in 2010, on the record, that Keith was a ‘lazy slug’ who’d ‘lay back with his hands tucked behind his head’ and she’d ‘have to lick and pinch and suckle on his nipples like he wanted to be the woman’ and have Toni ‘rape and seduce him’ – though he sometimes dozed off.

“Toni told me how ‘annoying’ that was and said she now knew [in 2010] why he was spent and ‘couldn’t get it up without all that fat boy titty play was because he was raping little girls like Rhiannon and teen groupies playing video games all night in the Consumers’ Buyline warehouse.’”

Pam, Karen, and Keith. Is Keith dressed as a woman?

This is certainly a lot different than Toni’s description in her book about his exceptional skills.

I called Joe O’Hara and asked if he remembered Toni’s description of Keith’s lovemaking abilities.

Joe O’Hara recalls Toni saying that Keith was an awful lover.

Joe said, “Toni told me that the only way Keith could get hard is if she sucked on his nipples. and that he was a lousy lover.”

What Toni Told Me

My personal recollection is that Toni told me – she volunteered it – that Keith required her to fondle and suckle his nipples when they had sex. I don’t recall if she ever said he was a good lover or a bad one.

Toni once showed me a nude picture of Keith with an erect penis, which she had held as collateral on him for years. She also had nude pics of Keith with Pamela Cafritz which she said she stole from Pam. [Her theft was justified, she said, because Keith was trying to ruin her.]

I have since wondered who took the photographs of Pam and Keith having sex and suspect Toni may not have stolen those pictures, but was part of a threesome and took them herself.

Heidi said, “Later I will do a post on how Toni snared those naked pictures of Pam and Keith during their ménage a trois and reveal where those collateral ideas just might have originated.” 

But this contradicts Toni’s claim that she never knew about any other women Raniere had sex with while he was with her.

Toni claimed she and Keith broke up when she started having an affair with Scott Foley, a married man, 12 years her junior. Toni says she knew nothing about Keith’s polyamory when she began her romance with Scott, who was her employee. [Toni justified her affair with Scott because she said Keith was mean to her, even repeatedly raping her.]

Toni said that, as Keith was being bad to her, Scott was her knight in shining armor and that Scott was done with his marriage anyway and that her breakup with Keith was Keith’s fault.  Scott left his wife and abandoned his daughter to run off with Toni to the Florida Keys.

Keith is also why, she said, she had to abandon her own son.

Toni claimed she sent her son, Michael, back to his father for his own protection against Keith.

I spoke with Michael’s father, Rusty DeCook, who tells a different story.

He said, “Michael, who spent his summers with me and the school year with Toni, asked to leave his mother and live with me at the end of the third-grade summer vacation. He did not like living with Toni and Keith – who both kept him on an extreme, low-calorie diet, which is a cruelty to a growing child. Keith and Toni had no problem with letting Michael go and be raised by me. Toni stayed with Keith after Michael came to live with me. So no, it is not true that Toni sent Michael to me to protect him from Keith.”

The low-calorie diet was so extreme, Rusty said, that when the boy returned from summer vacation, spent with Rusty, the first thing Toni did was not hug the boy but put him on a scale to weigh him.

Rusty also said that Toni punished her son because the child accidentally lost his grip on a little puppy and it fell and died.

She and Keith actually kept the dead puppy in the freezer, Toni told me and others.

Toni told me that was Keith’s idea – and Toni told several people that she stood by as Keith made Michael stare at the dead puppy every day to teach him about the consequences of his actions.

Michael recalls it differently, his father says: that Toni did indeed keep the dead puppy in the freezer – but that Michael does not recall having to stare at the dead puppy – which is arguably child abuse.

[Rusty went so far as to suggest that, if Toni’s story was true, and that had he learned about Keith and Toni forcing his son to stare at a dead puppy every day, there would have never have been a Vanguard for he would have died prematurely and unexpectedly.  In defense of Rusty’s anger over the mere possibility that the story could be true, it is true that some parents are quite protective and will sacrifice their own well being any day to protect their children. However, Rusty says he does not believe Toni’s story about forcing Michael to stare at a dead puppy and Michael does not recall it.]

Once Michael got away from Toni and Keith, he never lived again with Toni throughout his childhood and Toni – even years after she broke up with Keith and lived with Scott, her fourth husband, she rarely saw her child.

From the time he was nine years old through his teens years and into his adulthood – even after she returned to Rochester where Michael lived –  Toni did not visit her son.  Toni says she made this sacrifice to protect her son from Keith.

The advertising for her book tells it like this: “Enter single mother Toni Natalie, Keith’s Patient Zero, the first one indoctrinated into Raniere’s methodology and the first one to escape….. But far from being a victim’s story, in the spirit of Erin Brockovich, Toni’s is a nuanced narrative of a multi-dimensional woman saving herself, and then working tirelessly to help other women do the same for themselves. Today, Toni is happy, reunited with her son, and surrounded by friends and family–it is this perspective that makes her such a unique storyteller.”

Is Toni reunited with her son?  She did not see him from the time he was nine until he was in his 20s.

Toni and Keith [1998]

Micheal DeCook, 30, was raised by his father, Rusty DeCook. Toni claims this was done for her son’s own good to protect him from Keith Raniere.

Scott Foley – the love of Toni’s life – until he wasn’t.

Toni Natalie left Keith Raniere [and left her son] to take up with married man, and father, Scott Foley [above]. Toni reportedly said Scott’s lovemaking skills were phenomenal, compared to Keith. Still, if Toni sent Michael back to his father to protect him from Keith, then why did Toni stay with Keith afterward – up until the time she ran away with Scott?

I contacted one of Toni’s old friends who had not read Toni’s book. When I told her about what it said, she called bullshit on the “Keith was a great lover” bit in Toni’s book.

Her friend told me that Toni used to tell her that “Going from Keith to Scott Foley was like upgrading from a paper plane to a Concorde.”

So she had used the line before.

Image result for paper planes
Was Keith Raniere a paper plane or a Concorde jet?

Image result for concorde jet

Toni also told both Heidi, Joe and I, that she never knew about any of Keith’s affairs with other females, underage or otherwise.

Perhaps forgetting what she said to us before, on another occasion, Toni told Heidi and I, at different times, that she knew about Keith having sex with Dawn Morrison [a longtime Raniere harem member] because the local police caught Morrison and Raniere in the act in the woods in Toni’s car.

Karen U. told me that Toni knew she was in a relationship with Keith and that for the first four years of Keith and Toni’s relationship, Toni was the “other woman” and Karen was the public girlfriend. Toni worked hard to take Keith away from Karen, often using deceptive means, she said.

Karen is convinced that Toni knew about Pam, Barbara Jeske, Kristin Keeffe and, of course, herself.

Karen U., Keith Raniere, Pam Cafritz and Barbara Jeske.

 

Karen and the late Pam Carfritz.

Toni denies she knew anything about other women and told me that, at the time, she thought the other women were merely friends and co-workers and the fact that he often stayed overnight with them, was because he was a night owl and the women and he worked on things together through the night, while Toni slept.

Kristin Keeffe told me that Toni knew that Keith was having sex with at least Pam and that Toni and Pam both used to boast they would have Keith’s babies.

“Toni said she would have a girl and Pam would have a boy, both fathered by Keith,” Keeffe said.

Why Are These Stories Important?

My critics say I should not write any more stories about Toni Natalie and that she deserves a heroine’s honor and that I am picking on her – that all of us have imperfections.

If she is lying, it is not important. The curtain should be closed on her and we should all move on to other, more important stories.

Toni’s detractors say that she really did very little in the battle against Raniere and in fact may have done more harm than good. Her criminally hacking into Nxivm computers caused her and others a lot of grief.

But she volunteered to do that, Nobody forced her to get a password and enter the Nxivm website – she can’t blame Keith for that.

Her critics say she has conflated her story and made herself into a heroine she is not. That she is really a grifter who is shockingly similar to Raniere in her dishonesty.

While I agree that we all have imperfections, Toni has chosen to set a certain narrative down in her book.

Is it truthful?

There are many people who were there at the time who say Toni is not telling a truthful narrative – and that she has hurt others – innocent people – needlessly in her book – by her lies.

Toni argues that every word of her book is the absolute truth and that she spent the last two decades ceaselessly fighting Raniere – at great cost to herself.

She lost her son, she lost her fourth husband, she lost her dog, she lost her brother, and lost her mental and physical health [she has PTSD and Fibromyalgia, she says] – all because of  Raniere. She said he has sued her constantly for 20 straight years causing her to go bankrupt and live in near poverty.

Others say she has used the Keith excuse to get on disability, steal her stepfather’s estate, is not disabled, and other than her bankruptcy which ended in 2003, and her own criminal actions in the computer trespassing case, she has not been in legal actions with Raniere from 2003 to 2017 – when Keith got into trouble.

There was a brief civil action over a patent that Keith put in Toni’s name. Toni tried to get Keith [via the Bronfmans] to pay her $1 million for the patent but it did not work out. And then Keith got arrested.  So, her critics say, it is not quite right to say she was locked in legal battles with Keith for 20 years.

Who is telling the truth?

This is a classic case of a book being published that is either filled with lies from beginning to end, or the case of a poor but truthful woman – Toni Natalie – who was victimized by Raniere and is now being re-victimized by her detractors.

There is a lot more to come and I assure you I am saving the best for last.

The truth, I promise you, will prevail.

 

P.S. Toni Natalie has told some sources who have reached out to her that I am ‘a sick man and am writing about her to get clicks to save my dying website.”

It may or may not be provable that I am a sick or well man, but I think I can demonstrate that Frank Report is not dying but growing in readership.

Top 10 countries and their page views for Frank Report.
While only 9 and 1/2 months into the year, views have exceeded 5 million, which is higher than the 4.9 million in 2018.

With 5,136,422 views as of October 13th at 11:59 pm, the average views per month are 541,000 views per month – and growing.

The readership is not bad for a small blog that started out as a low cost means to expose a man – Keith Raniere – and his two criminal cohorts – Clare and Sara Bronfman – back at the end of 2015 – for their vicious and perjurious lies about me.’

It became much more.

About the author

Frank Parlato

Frank Report’s founder and lead writer Frank Parlato is one of the internet’s most decorated investigative journalists. His writing and investigations have helped expose major criminal organizations and scandals.

Frank’s work has been cited in major publications all over the world, including The New York Times, New York Post, The Daily Mail, VICE News, CNN, Rolling Stone, and more.

He is also the publisher and editor-in-chief of Artvoice, The Niagara Falls Reporter, Front Page and the South Buffalo News.

43 Comments

Click here to post a comment

Leave a Reply

  • Who the hell wanted this kind of information and thinks people on average intelligence are going to think Toni Natalie is a smart, refined woman for sharing such information?

    Toni sounds like a porn star sharing a bad script from an early 1980s movie she stared in.

    Somethings are better left unspoken. It’s oversharing.

    • LOL. Was it the hairy nipple suckling, and calling Keith “Sally”? I thought it was to sell books, but apparently Toni enjoyed talking to people about things like this. Unfortunately, Toni wasn’t always correct with her titillating gossip. It seems she enjoyed the gossip more than concerns over accuracy. Or maybe others are right and she was always angling. But the precision of her gossip doesn’t seem to be a strong point.

  • Frank,

    “There is a lot more to come and I assure you I am saving the best for last.”

    What could you possibly have that tops hairy nipple sucking?
    *****

    Dear Toni,

    If you happen to read this post, your former adopted son Micheal DeCook has something he would like to share with you….. God made you barren for a reason, and…..

    Fuck off, you narcissistic bitch!!!! 😉

      • Nutjob,

        Yes I am all ready regretting the second part completely. Here is my genuine Mea Culpa from the heart:

        ***
        To Toni Natlie
        I am sorry to you and your family and friends that may read or have read my comment
        There is no excuse for what I wrote and I am feeling like a guilty asshole. I am truly sorry.

      • Nutjob,

        In my defense, thinking about a young boy being tortured by being put on a restricted-calorie diet along with the torture of the kid’s dead dog in the freezer if Natalie is not lying and the kid repressed it…Kind of set me off. I am sorry about the “barren” comment.

        • Nice Guy, I personally wouldn’t apologize. You said what is true. There’s a lot of women who should never have kids. Toni Natalie is definitely one of them. Even she knows it.

  • For Scott Foley, the sex with Toni must have become non-existent.

    Come on, she was an aging older woman.

    According to Toni, Scott ended up having multiple affairs while married to her. What does that tell you about their sex life?

    His pattern was to find a new lover before he left his old hag of a wife. Isn’t that right, Tones? That’s the role you played with Scott’s first ex-wife.

    He found his new younger Concorde jet a few times with you until you didn’t want to play park the jet in the new hanger.

  • As mentally disturbing as this article is, it cracked me up when I got to the picture of Joe O’Hara looking like a serious, distinguished gentleman and underneath the words – Joe said, “Toni told me that the only way Keith could get hard is if she sucked on his nipples. and that he was a lousy lover.”

  • What a relief to get some corraboration on Toni’s original version of Keith’s sex kinks.

    Frank never told me whether or not Toni’s conversations with me on the topic matched any she’d had with anyone else, including what she previously told Frank.

    (Frank’s a little sneaky like that — doesn’t tip his hand until you’ve laid your cards out — but I get that he does it to keep everyone honest and discard lies.)

    After getting half burned on the frozen puppy story, I was worried Toni would just claim I’m lying about what she’d said — just like Toni did with Susan Dones.

    Credibility is not something I can afford to lose right now in the interests of protecting my son.

    Now, the question is when was Toni lying about Keith’s sex prowess — in those ‘on-record’ lousy lay conversations years ago or now in her book?

    I’ve talked to some who won’t go on record as yet but whose accounts agree with Toni’s original story and assessment that the sex sucked.

    Any anons care to weigh in on that?

  • Doesn’t anyone in this group care one whit about hygiene? They’re cheerfully sleeping with a pig who rarely bathes and has unprotected sex with almost anyone.

  • If Toni Natalie had slithered into the background I might agree all the pieces on her were a little much. BUT SHE WROTE A BOOK that proclaimed herself the hero of all heroes. So poking holes in her stories is not beyond reason. She is a liar who wrote a book.

    She isn’t even a good liar.

    Which may be the saddest thing of all

    • 100% agree with your analysis. Toni always wanted attention and now she’s getting it. And I trust that Frank and Joe are going to expose even more of her lies when they finish going through her book.

      Have you noticed that Toni’s hotshot attorney has not been posting any more threatening messages about those who question Toni’s veracity? Wonder if he’s finally figured out what a liar she is. Also wonder why he didn’t vet any of her stories before he took her on as a client.

      And speaking of vetting, how did “an award-winning investigative journalist” like Chet Hardin agree to put his name on this tripe? I understand he was fired from his last job for sexual harassment but was this the only option he had to earn money? I’d rather be a Greeter at Walmart than be associated with Toni Natalie.

      Lastly, didn’t her publisher check out any of her stories? The book has only been out a few weeks and it’s already been shown to be full of exaggerations and outright lies. They had months to vet this crap and apparently did nothing.

  • The title took me 5 minutes to get past. I think I actually puked in my mouth. Okay, Frank 1st off congratulations on your site. 2nd thanks Frank, Joe, and Heidi, I now have PTSD. Can a young lady get a warning next time?

    Toni you $uck…I mean obviously you $uck. You not only $uck but you $uck Raniere nipple$ and lived to write about it. Niki Clyne now has useful stand-up material to use.

    Frank, I’m sending you my psychiatric bill.

    • Peaches,

      Stop your complaining!

      Frank is just pandering to his female audience by giving them some gratuitous eye candy…….

      *****
      Rumor has it Scott Johnson loves the fuzzy bear look. Isn’t that so Scotty?

        • Scott,

          You keep mentioning “Bubba”……

          And Bubba & Ranier having sex…..
          Is that a personal fantasy?

          ……..Or……..

          Is Bubba the name of a gentleman you met at a truck stop?

          …….Or…….

          Is Bubba the name of a nice fella you met on Grinder™?

          I think Nutjob may have to disinvite you from the Saratoga Springs, New York official Frank Parlato,This was NXIVM Land Extravaganza bus tour.

          Everyone that pays full price for the tour recieves a complimentary piece of Keith ‘Vanguard’ Raniere’s fabled hot tub of love……. that came down serendipitously on his grand piano.

          What would have happened had Raniere been in the hotub alone?….
          ……Alas, we can only dream.

About Frank Parlato

About Frank Parlato

Frank Parlato is an investigative journalist.

His work has been cited in major publications all over the world, including The New York Times, The Daily Mail, VICE News, CNN, Fox News, Rolling Stone, People Magazine, and more.

Frank Report is dedicated to Frank's investigative journalism and the pursuit of truth.

Read more about Frank Report's mission.

Got A Tip?

If you have a tip for Frank Report, send it here.
Email: frankparlato@gmail.com
Phone / Text: (716) 990-5740

Archives

Loading cart ⌛️ ...
%d bloggers like this: