The DOJ has confirmed in a recent filing that there will be another superseding indictment in the NXIVM case.
The confirmation is found in a footnote on page 47 of a 71-page Memorandum of Law in opposition to the defendants’ motion to dismiss.
2018 12 17 Document 248 – Prosecution’s Memorandum Of Law In Opposition To Defendants’ Pre-Trial Motions (12.17.2018)Download
The footnote – easy to miss in the 21,000 word memorandum – was part of the DOJ’s response to one of Lauren Salzman’s arguments to dismiss some of her charges.
The footnote reads.
“In any event, the government expects that this issue will be rendered moot when the government presents a superseding indictment to the grand jury in this case. The government anticipates that current Racketeering Act Seven will be revised in the superseding indictment to name one or more Jane Does in place of ‘lower level DOS members,’ and will allege the New York States law extortion of each Jane Doe as a separate predicate act. “
But the language is plain enough: According to the DOJ, there will be new Jane Does named in a superseding indictment.
Possibly there will be new charges, perhaps new defendants.
A superseding indictment also means
The last superseding indictment, which was issued in July 2018, pushed the original trial date of October 2018 off until March 2019 – a period of five months.
If the coming superseding indictment pushes the trial back a similar period, the trial will be postponed until August or September 2019.
The two big questions are: (1) Will others be charged? – and (2)Will the present defendants get more charges – adding to their potential prison sentences?
Stay tuned.
This is about NXIVM but off topic of this particular blog post. I came across this fun YouTube video of a man trolling a NXIVM recruiter by pretending to be interested in taking courses. I don’t remember seeing this video here, but I might be wrong. So my apologies if it’s been mentioned here before. There is a shorter version of this video that has tens of thousands of views, and hundreds of comments. Here is the video:
https://youtu.be/ca1fi-LtGto
I believe he called Mark Elliott. Here’s a video of him with Raniere, check out the “rolling over in bed” remark about 40 seconds into it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aselrUCHqT8 Raniere now has Bubba in the cell when he rolls over on his back. My, how things have changed.
Thanks for sharing this Dianne! I listened to half of it, but gotta run. Will listen to the rest later. It’s interesting NXIVM only took referrals to the ESP courses. This would have been the first red flag for me had I known nothing about them.
TK, I love how the guy from NXIVM practically had an orgasm when he found out that the potential recruit was a military vet and had served in Afghanistan. OK, maybe it was just love-bombing pure and simple. But I speculate that the NXIVM recruiter had dreams of attracting other military people if he could get this guy in. What a feather in cap and it might counter some of the negative publicity. Not to mention that a group of military vets loyal to Raniere might come in handy some day.
It was love-bombing. The guy could have said he flipped hamburgers at McDonalds and he would have gushed over it.
Finished listening the the rest of the YouTube video shared by “VillageDianne”. It’s pretty interesting. Does anyone have a copy of the 16- day intensive course material? I thought I read somewhere that one of NXIVM’s principles was to foster and create wealth for the sake of humanity, or something along those lines. Seems to me if their focus was to acquire wealth in tandem with their ideal to recruit attractive people, and change the world, I’d wonder what other personal information their customers were made to share with them.
I expect this superseding indictment to hit Lauren Salzman the hardest, especially since she was very likely Allison Mack’s puppeteer as far as running the DOS salves. I don’t think Nancy could cut a deal to save her, anymore.
In a funny happy solstice flashback, I’m thinking of Tiffany Persons’ conversation with Keith Raniere about the impact of prioritising comfort and the benefits of choosing discomfort. Certainly good for a chuckle these days.
Hi Frank, what’s going on with count 7? Please see my reply to “And THIS” comment.
Sometime I’ll tell you the mystical, magical story of how Jim Odato noticed he coincidentally had 3 phone numbers: mine, Gina Melita’s and Toni Natalie’s, all ending in 777 — for real. And Keith was proclaiming for years he had an aversion to the number 7 — probably to disguise his role in forming those GBD “Sexy 7” questions. Either that or he’s the Anti-Christ (lol) because 777 is a sacred number in ancient numerology but I wouldn’t wanna go there. This could be a job for your friend, Jamol.
That’s weird, (in a spooky sort of way) Heidi. I have had strange repeating-number coincidences happen over the last few years, too. Maybe it’s all coincidence, or maybe it’s the “Universe” speaking to us. However, I dont believe in those number codes that Jamo mentioned, as those are too open to interpretation.
Any new charges will likely not add anything to their prison sentences.
Additional convictions will be concurrently applied by the judge. Plus most of these ladies are first time offenders with no violence in their charges (except Mack and Raniere who face 15 years minimum for sex charges).
You can tack on 10 new charges to Clare’s indictment and she’ll likely only get 3 years max no matter how many guilty verdicts are returned.
I think that depends on the seriousness of the convictions.
Here’s some additional information: http://www.uscourts.gov/about-federal-courts/types-cases/criminal-cases which states, in part, “During sentencing, the court may consider U. S. Sentencing Commission guidelines, evidence produced at trial, and also relevant information provided by the pretrial services officer, the U.S. attorney, and the defense attorney.”
Keith’s fav. snack trying to get it’s head round the law? Go stroke your sash. Clare is going to prison where she will suffer many many hardships, every moment of every day, because she has chosen a life of criminality and been caught- bang to rights.
“You can tack on 10 new charges to Clare’s indictment and she’ll likely only get 3 years max no matter how many guilty verdicts are returned”, says her lawyer, Dennis Burke. AUSA’s, are you reading this??
“You can tack on 10 new charges to Clare’s indictment and she’ll likely only get 3 years max no matter how many guilty verdicts are returned.” Says who? You? How do you know she’ll “likely only get 3 years max?” How could you know such a thing with superseding indictments pending. Did you or Clare bribe a public official? Don’t backpedal with narrative about sentencing guidelines now that you let it slip. Are you Clare’s invisible lawyer, Dennis K. Burke? Is that why you’re arrogant, as if you think you’re God?
According to the DOJ, there will be new Jane Does named in a superseding indictment.
How many Jane Does will there be?
Up to 150 Jane Does.
an estimated 150 women ultimately joined.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/30/magazine/sex-cult-empowerment-nxivm-keith-raniere.html
Plus I can name two women who were targeted for recruitment but quickly backed out when they discovered that NXIVM DOS involved branding and blackmail.
I won’t name these women because they will be targeted by Clare’s Flying Monkeys.
Looking to Vanguard’s future, I took a few liberties with Robbie Williams’ Angels. Sorry Robbie.
Not Angels
I sit and wait
For a jury to contemplate my fate
But they don’t know
I’m an ethical bro
With a large ego
Recruits were often told
That my brain is worth its weight in gold
So when I’m crying in my bed
Indignation in my head
Wishing all my foes were dead
They have the most joy instead.
And through it all, Clare offered me protection
From criminal detection
I had DOS slaves on call
Though struggling to achieve erection
I had a nice selection
Sent for me to ball
Blackmailed affection
I was a failure in bed
I’m feeling weak
Can no longer hide
My coward’s streak
The inmates shove
When they should show
Unconditional love
When the cell doors are not closed
Fellow inmates are not bros
And they’re butting on my head
My Judo seems to have fled.
And through it all, Clare offered me protection
From criminal detection
I had DOS slaves on call
Though struggling to achieve erection
I had a nice selection
Sent for me to ball
Blackmailed affection
I was a failure in bed.
I could have run a legal corporation
Not a criminal operation
Hounding enemies in court
And now I’m in a cell
Fighting my convictions
With many health afflictions
I had it all, I thought
Seeing through the fiction
Parlato’s smiling instead.
Is the DOJ coming down the MDC chimney next Monday night to make the delivery in the “Nick” of time?
Here’s hoping that they will.
Let the good (billable hours) times roll!
Page 56, regarding the identity theft for the purpose of tax evasion charge against Clare and Keith –
“Bronfman also moves for the dismissal of Count Seven on the ground that it is
alleged to have been committed in the Northern District of New York and not the Eastern
District of New York. The government agrees that the Indictment alleges that Count Seven
is venued in the Northern District of New York. However, this does not warrant dismissal of
Count Seven.
Prior to trial, if a superseding indictment is not returned to cure the venue defect,
the government will consent to the severance of Count Seven and its transfer for trial
in the Northern District of New York.”
I love THIS, And This. But before Count 7 puts me in 7th heaven, quick question, does the Northern District have to also “consent” to the transfer? Or can NDNY dismiss that count or just ignore it — like they’ve ignored all Raniere’s and NXIVM crimes for the past 30 years?
Or can EDNY “force” NDNY to preserve the charges on that count if severed, if not covered under the superseding indictment in the Eastern district.
“Consent” is being sooo loosely defined by Nx attorneys in this case, I can’t tell if this move will “force” NDNY to try their own Nx case or not! 😁
AUSA Moira Penza for President!!!!
I wondered the same thing Heidi. That was a long read and as I was going through it I was kind of embarrassed for the attorneys of the defendants. I actually lol’d at their response to the CCTV request.
Karma is a bitch
More time for Little Lord KAR at the MDC