Lauren Salzman got five years probation and 300 hours of community service and no PRISON TIME for her conviction on racketeering and racketeering conspiracy.
As a condition of her probation, she cannot have contact with anyone affiliated with NXIVM with the exception of her family.
Judge Nicholas G. Garaufis praised the US Attorney’s office for the EDNY who he said saved the lives of many people by prosecuting NXIVM.
The judge also praised Lauren’s efforts at rehabilitation, speaking glowingly about Lauren’s choice of a new career as a dog groomer, which he said, showed she had empathy.
He said that dog grooming won’t make her rich or give her power, but it shows she is empathetic and compassionate.
He called pet grooming work the opposite of the work she did for NXIVM since she will not have power or money in the dog grooming field but that she had power and money in NXIVM.
The judge called her testimony at the trial of Keith Raniere extraordinarily helpful and genuine.
The judge mentioned that hers was a life meant for rehabilitation and that she has 20 years or more of life in her new career.
The judge made a remarkable statement – chastising the US Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of New York and the New York State Police and Albany DA David Soares – none of whom he mentioned by name – as he wondered how state and federal authorities in Albany did not pursue the prosecution of NXIVM over decades when there was so much of a record of criminality.
“How in the world this went on for so many years, will forever be a mystery to this court,” the judge said.
Making the obvious point that most of the crimes of conviction occurred in the Albany area, the judge said, “How his case came to be prosecuted in Brooklyn, after state and federal authorities in Albany were aware of the abuse, is not comprehensible to this court.”
It is not clear if this is a signal for a public corruption investigation into law enforcement in the Albany area or not.
Two victims spoke – Ivy Nevares who spoke by video and Susan Dones who appeared in person.
Karen Unterreiner was seen outside the court with Dones.
Lauren spoke last – she said the fact that she was prosecuted saved her life.
Nevares said it was painful because Lauren was her peer, her coach and her best friend for 20 years and said that it was Lauren’s role to manage and manipulate her and that Lauren “gaslighted me.”
Nevares also said that Karen U apologized to her but Lauren never apologized. Nevares also said she treasured her friendship with Lauren. and noted a week spent with Lauren in Mexico when her father was dying.
“I trusted you above anyone else, Nevares said. “You knew my weakness, my past trauma…. and you enjoyed power and a lavish lifestyle.”
Susan Dones spoke in person and said, “You were not protected by Nancy who should have known [that Raniere was evil.]
She said that Lauren had sexual relations for years with Raniere and knew he was abusing women.
She added “You were not some young child fresh out of college [during the entire tenure of her NXIVM role]. Dones also scoffed at the idea that she could not leave NXIVM because her family was involved.
She said she loved the “money and power [and were] protected by being Nancy’s daughter and Raniere’s sex partner.”
Dones added that she could have left and her father or grandparents would have helped her.
Dones asked “Why would you ever give up what you had in NXIVM? Only when the ship of NXIMV had sunk did you save yourself from your 20-year sentence.” She added that Lauren used her position of power and control to help Raniere get what he wanted and extract money out of them.
Dones accused Lauren of grooming Allison Mack.
Judge Garuafis was not persuaded by the victims’ arguments.
He said, “This prosecution has salvaged a life and that’s what we are really here to do to, save lives that can be saved.”
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Today Lauren Salzman is being sentenced for her crimes of conviction — racketeering and racketeering conspiracy.Unchanged: Today Lauren Salzman is being sentenced for her crimes of conviction — racketeering and racketeering conspiracy.Unchanged: The sentencing guidelines suggest a prison term of 87 to 108 months’ imprisonment.Unchanged: The sentencing guidelines suggest a prison term of 87 to 108 months’ imprisonment.Unchanged: The US Department of Justice, as represented by the US Attorney’s office for the Eastern District of New York, has filed its<a href=”https://frankreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/raniere-23.jpg”> sentencing memorandum for Lauren Salzman </a>and because of the extraordinary assistance they say Salzman, 45, provided the prosecution they are seeking a downward departure from her sentencing guidelines.Unchanged: The US Department of Justice, as represented by the US Attorney’s office for the Eastern District of New York, has filed its<a href=”https://frankreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/raniere-23.jpg”> sentencing memorandum for Lauren Salzman </a>and because of the extraordinary assistance they say Salzman, 45, provided the prosecution they are seeking a downward departure from her sentencing guidelines.Unchanged: Salzman was the key cooperating witness in the trial of Keith Alan Raniere, 60, who was convicted on a spate of felonies and sentenced to a prison term of 120 years. His codefendants, Clare Webb Bronfman, 42, and Allison Mack, 38, were sentenced already to 81 months and 36 months respectively.Unchanged: Salzman was the key cooperating witness in the trial of Keith Alan Raniere, 60, who was convicted on a spate of felonies and sentenced to a prison term of 120 years. His codefendants, Clare Webb Bronfman, 42, and Allison Mack, 38, were sentenced already to 81 months and 36 months respectively.Unchanged: Salzman pleaded guilty on March 25, 2019 to racketeering conspiracy and racketeering.Unchanged: Salzman pleaded guilty on March 25, 2019 to racketeering conspiracy and racketeering.Unchanged: Salzman’s hearing is scheduled for 11:30 a.m. in Courtroom 4D, 225 Cadman Plaza E.Unchanged: Salzman’s hearing is scheduled for 11:30 a.m. in Courtroom 4D, 225 Cadman Plaza E.Unchanged: All attendees, including counsel for the parties, media representatives, and members of the public, must show proof of full COVID-19 vaccination and provide the court with their name and contact information for contact tracing purposes in order to enter the courtroom.Unchanged: All attendees, including counsel for the parties, media representatives, and members of the public, must show proof of full COVID-19 vaccination and provide the court with their name and contact information for contact tracing purposes in order to enter the courtroom.Unchanged: All attendees must remain masked throughout the proceedings unless otherwise instructed.Unchanged: All attendees must remain masked throughout the proceedings unless otherwise instructed.Unchanged: A livestream of the proceedings will be available in an adjacent courtroom, with strict capacity limitations and enforcement of social distancing and masking protocols. Attendees who cannot provide proof of full COVID-19 vaccination may view the livestream from the adjacent room.Unchanged: A livestream of the proceedings will be available in an adjacent courtroom, with strict capacity limitations and enforcement of social distancing and masking protocols. Attendees who cannot provide proof of full COVID-19 vaccination may view the livestream from the adjacent room.Unchanged: The press office for the US Attorney for the Eastern District of NY, in providing the press with info on this sentencing, described Salzman as “a high-ranking member of the Nxivm racketeering enterprise and a first-line DOS ‘master’ who recruited women into DOS as her ‘slaves.’;Unchanged: The press office for the US Attorney for the Eastern District of NY, in providing the press with info on this sentencing, described Salzman as “a high-ranking member of the Nxivm racketeering enterprise and a first-line DOS ‘master’ who recruited women into DOS as her ‘slaves.’;Unchanged: “Lauren Salzman pleaded guilty to racketeering conspiracy and testified against co-defendant Keith Raniere at his trial in 2019.”Unchanged: “Lauren Salzman pleaded guilty to racketeering conspiracy and testified against co-defendant Keith Raniere at his trial in 2019.”Unchanged: In the courtroom today before Judge Nicholas G. Garaufis will be the prosecution, most likely represented by Assistant US Attorney Tanya Hajjar. FBI Special Agents Michael Wenigrad and Michael Lever are also expected to be on hand.Unchanged: In the courtroom today before Judge Nicholas G. Garaufis will be the prosecution, most likely represented by Assistant US Attorney Tanya Hajjar. FBI Special Agents Michael Wenigrad and Michael Lever are also expected to be on hand.Unchanged: For the defense, attorney Hector Diaz of Phoenix, Arizona, is expected to be in attendance and will likely make an appeal to the judge to give Lauren probation and spare her prison.Unchanged: For the defense, attorney Hector Diaz of Phoenix, Arizona, is expected to be in attendance and will likely make an appeal to the judge to give Lauren probation and spare her prison.Unchanged: Frank Report has two correspondents at the scene and in following the vaccination apartheid protocol one will be in the main courtroom and the other in the adjacent courtroom. They will call in their report immediately following the hearing.Unchanged: Frank Report has two correspondents at the scene and in following the vaccination apartheid protocol one will be in the main courtroom and the other in the adjacent courtroom. They will call in their report immediately following the hearing.Unchanged: The big issue of course is whether Lauren will get probation only or some prison time. She has made a powerful appeal for leniency and she too is expected to speak today just prior to sentencing.Unchanged: The big issue of course is whether Lauren will get probation only or some prison time. She has made a powerful appeal for leniency and she too is expected to speak today just prior to sentencing.Unchanged: Also in court, we expect to see her father Michael Salzman, his wife and stepmother of Lauren, Sandy Padilla, sister Michelle Salzman-Myers and her husband Ben Myers – who were members of NXIVM prior to the arrest of Lauren and Nancy.Unchanged: Also in court, we expect to see her father Michael Salzman, his wife and stepmother of Lauren, Sandy Padilla, sister Michelle Salzman-Myers and her husband Ben Myers – who were members of NXIVM prior to the arrest of Lauren and Nancy.Unchanged: Other family members may be in attendance — such as her aunt and uncle – but the wild card is whether Nancy – also a defendant in the case – will show up. If she does she would need permission from the court to attend.Unchanged: Other family members may be in attendance — such as her aunt and uncle – but the wild card is whether Nancy – also a defendant in the case – will show up. If she does she would need permission from the court to attend.Unchanged: I will hazard a guess that she won’t be there.Unchanged: I will hazard a guess that she won’t be there.Unchanged: It is also not known if any victims will attend to speak at the hearing. Four of her victims –Daniela, Audrey, Amanda, and Sarah Edmondson have written victim impact letters to the court wherein they said they believed Lauren should be treated with leniency.Unchanged: It is also not known if any victims will attend to speak at the hearing. Four of her victims –Daniela, Audrey, Amanda, and Sarah Edmondson have written victim impact letters to the court wherein they said they believed Lauren should be treated with leniency.Unchanged: This supports Lauren’s own contention that she loved these women and did not intend them harm, but was misguided in her faith in Raniere.Unchanged: This supports Lauren’s own contention that she loved these women and did not intend them harm, but was misguided in her faith in Raniere.Unchanged: Three of these women were branded with Raniere’s initials because of Lauren – and their specific statement that they supported her probation only sentence is a testament to forgiveness and the bond Lauren formerly had with these women.Unchanged: Three of these women were branded with Raniere’s initials because of Lauren – and their specific statement that they supported her probation only sentence is a testament to forgiveness and the bond Lauren formerly had with these women.Unchanged: While Daniela did not specifically state that she wanted probation for Lauren, neither did she say she wanted her to go to prison and suggested that the true villain was Raniere.Unchanged: While Daniela did not specifically state that she wanted probation for Lauren, neither did she say she wanted her to go to prison and suggested that the true villain was Raniere.Unchanged: That will be the common theme today — Raniere was the villain who snatched young Lauren – at age 21 and fresh out of college – into a long dark downward spiraling slavery to him.Unchanged: That will be the common theme today — Raniere was the villain who snatched young Lauren – at age 21 and fresh out of college – into a long dark downward spiraling slavery to him.Unchanged: Stay tunedUnchanged: Stay tunedUnchanged: Unchanged: Unchanged: Unchanged:
Garuafis was really heartened.
This prosecution has salvaged a life that’s what we are really here to do to save lives that can be saved.”
Today Lauren Salzman is being sentenced for her crimes of conviction — racketeering and racketeering conspiracy.
The sentencing guidelines suggest a prison term of 87 to 108 months’ imprisonment.
The US Department of Justice, as represented by the US Attorney’s office for the Eastern District of New York, has filed its sentencing memorandum for Lauren Salzman and because of her extraordinary assistance, they say Salzman, 45, provided the prosecution they are seeking a downward departure from her sentencing guidelines.
Salzman was the key cooperating witness in the trial of Keith Alan Raniere, 60, who was convicted on a spate of felonies and sentenced to a prison term of 120 years. His codefendants, Clare Webb Bronfman, 42, and Allison Mack, 38, were sentenced already to 81 months and 36 months respectively.
Salzman pleaded guilty on March 25, 2019 to racketeering conspiracy and racketeering.
Salzman’s hearing is scheduled for 11:30 a.m. in Courtroom 4D, 225 Cadman Plaza E.
All attendees, including counsel for the parties, media representatives, and members of the public, must show proof of full COVID-19 vaccination and provide the court with their name and contact information for contact tracing purposes in order to enter the courtroom.
All attendees must remain masked throughout the proceedings unless otherwise instructed.
A livestream of the proceedings will be available in an adjacent courtroom, with strict capacity limitations and enforcement of social distancing and masking protocols. Attendees who cannot provide proof of full COVID-19 vaccination may view the livestream from the adjacent room.
The press office for the US Attorney for the Eastern District of NY, in providing the press with info on this sentencing, described Salzman as “a high-ranking member of the Nxivm racketeering enterprise and a first-line DOS ‘master’ who recruited women into DOS as her ‘slaves.’;
“Lauren Salzman pleaded guilty to racketeering conspiracy and testified against co-defendant Keith Raniere at his trial in 2019.”
In the courtroom today before Judge Nicholas G. Garaufis will be the prosecution, most likely represented by Assistant US Attorney Tanya Hajjar. FBI Special Agents Michael Wenigrad and Michael Lever are also expected to be on hand.
For the defense, attorney Hector Diaz of Phoenix, Arizona, is expected to be in attendance and will likely make an appeal to the judge to give Lauren probation and spare her prison.
Frank Report has two correspondents at the scene and in following the vaccination apartheid protocol one will be in the main courtroom and the other in the adjacent courtroom. They will call in their report immediately following the hearing.
The big issue of course is whether Lauren will get probation only or some prison time. She has made a powerful appeal for leniency and she too is expected to speak today just prior to sentencing.
Also in court, we expect to see her father Michael Salzman, his wife and stepmother of Lauren, Sandy Padilla, sister Michelle Salzman-Myers and her husband Ben Myers – who were members of NXIVM prior to the arrest of Lauren and Nancy.
Other family members may be in attendance — such as her aunt and uncle – but the wild card is whether Nancy – also a defendant in the case – will show up. If she does she would need permission from the court to attend.
I will hazard a guess that she won’t be there.
It is also not known if any victims will attend to speak at the hearing. Four of her victims –Daniela, Audrey, Amanda, and Sarah Edmondson have written victim impact letters to the court wherein they said they believed Lauren should be treated with leniency.
This supports Lauren’s own contention that she loved these women and did not intend them harm, but was misguided in her faith in Raniere.
Three of these women were branded with Raniere’s initials because of Lauren – and their specific statement that they supported her probation only sentence is a testament to forgiveness and the bond Lauren formerly had with these women.
While Daniela did not specifically state that she wanted probation for Lauren, neither did she say she wanted her to go to prison and suggested that the true villain was Raniere.
That will be the common theme today — Raniere was the villain who snatched young Lauren – at age 21 and fresh out of college – into a long dark downward spiraling slavery to him.
Stay tuned
And our Warriors for Retribution are crying tears of blood into their cups of bile over the ‘lightness’ of Lauren’s sentence.
As I sit here sipping Champagne, I think it appropriate.
I wasn’t particularly impressed with Lauren’s dog grooming business but that doesn’t matter as the judge was. Ultimately, he felt she hit all the points he was looking for and as a result, she is (mostly) free now. Means her mother stands a good chance of the same but, again, only if she hits the criteria he is looking for. It’s not clear if that has happened in Nancy’s case but fighting cancer does give her a good chance. As does her attempt to fall on a sword for her daughter in that letter.
So that means Lauren is single and officially available. What was that business address again… (I kid on business, live 1000+ miles away).
The judge is saving the big sentence for Nancy! I won’t be suprised if she gets longer than Clare
What do you think Lauren did to celebrate?
Sell her dog grooming business.
Anon 3:04-
So true! 😉
Frank received so much grief. He should have said, “Hey schmucks, can’t you see out of the wool-pulled-over your eyes.”
Just watch — they’ll be blaming Frank for the dog biz closure for the next 2 weeks!
Robert Gavin
@RobertGavinTU
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Former #NXIVM official Lauren Salzman is going to the dogs, not prison.
Just my opinion but I’m very pleased with the judgment. Whatever the detractors might say, Lauren made herself seen and the good judge saw her truth. Fantastic win! So happy for them both.
Everyone has been sentenced. Isn’t it time to wrap up this blog?
Here’s a thought…stop clicking to this site? What do ya think, smtolle?
We’re still waiting for Nancy Salzman and Kathy Russell to be sentenced. Nancy will take place right after Labor Day — and Kathy will likely take place in late September or early October.
Smtolle-
Why are you always so negative?
Can’t you say one nice thing?
Were any fines or forfeitures levied and what might her 5 years of probation entail?
Since I have not seen the formal judgment papers yet, I can’t answer your questions about “fines of forfeitures”. She will, however, have to pay a couple of standard assessments that are imposed on all federal defendants who are convicted or plead guilty.
I can also share with you the following “Mandatory Conditions” of probation — and “Standard Conditions” of probation — that will be imposed on Lauren. In addition to those, there will also likely be some “Special Conditions” (e.g., staying away from anyone involved with NXIVM/ESP except for family members; etc.).
MANDATORY CONDITIONS
I. You must not commit another federal, state or local crime.
2. You must not unlawfully possess a controlled substance.
3. You must refrain from any unlawful use of a controlled substance. You must submit to one drug test within 15 days of release from imprisonment and at least two periodic drug tests thereafter, as determined by the court.
☐ The above drug testing condition is suspended, based on the court’s determination that you pose a low risk of future substance abuse. (check if applicable)
4. ☐ You must make restitution in accordance with 18 U.S.C. §§ 3663 and 3663A or any other statute authorizing a sentence of restitution. (check if applicable)
5. ☐ You must cooperate in the collection of DNA as directed by the probation officer. (check if applicable)
6. ☐ You must comply with the requirements of the Sex Offender Registration and Notification Act (34 U.S.C. § 20901, et seq.) as directed by the probation officer, the Bureau of Prisons, or any state sex offender registration agency in the location where you reside, work, are a student, or were convicted of a qualifying offense. (check if applicable)
7. ☐ You must participate in an approved program for domestic violence. (check if applicable)
8.You must comply with the standard conditions that have been adopted by this court as well as with any other conditions on the attached
page.
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STANDARD CONDITIONS OF SUPERVISION
As part of your supervised release, you must comply with the following standard conditions of supervision. These conditions are imposed because they establish the basic expectations for your behavior while on supervision and identify the minimum tools needed by probation officers to keep informed, report to the court about, and bring about improvements in your conduct and condition.
1. You must report to the probation office in the federal judicial district where you are authorized to reside within 72 hours of your release from imprisonment, unless the probation officer instructs you to report to a different probation office or within a different time frame.
2. After initially reporting to the probation office, you will receive instructions from the court or the probation officer about how and when you must report to the probation officer, and you must report to the probation officer as instructed.
3. You must not knowingly leave the federal judicial district where you are authorized to reside without first getting permission from the court or the probation officer.
4. You must answer truthfully the questions asked by your probation officer.
5. You must live at a place approved by the probation officer. If you plan to change where you live or anything about your living arrangements (such as the people you live with), you must notify the probation officer at least 10 days before the change. If notifying the probation officer in advance is not possible due to unanticipated circumstances, you must notify the probation officer within 72 hours of becoming aware of a change or expected change.
6. You must allow the probation officer to visit you at any time at your home or elsewhere, and you must permit the probation officer to take any items prohibited by the conditions of your supervision that he or she observes in plain view.
7. You must work full time (at least 30 hours per week) at a lawful type of employment, unless the probation officer excuses you from doing so. If you do not have full-time employment you must try to find full-time employment, unless the probation officer excuses you from doing so. If you plan to change where you work or anything about your work (such as your position or your job responsibilities), you must notify the probation officer at least 10 days before the change. If notifying the probation officer at least 10 days in advance is not possible due to unanticipated circumstances, you must notify the probation officer within 72 hours of becoming aware of a change or expected change.
8. You must not communicate or interact with someone you know is engaged in criminal activity. If you know someone has been convicted of a felony, you must not knowingly communicate or interact with that person without first getting the permission of the probation officer.
9. If you are arrested or questioned by a law enforcement officer, you must notify the probation officer within 72 hours.
10. You must not own, possess, or have access to a firearm, ammunition, destructive device, or dangerous weapon (i.e., anything that was designed, or was modified for, the specific purpose of causing bodily injury or death to another person such as nunchakus or lasers).
11. You must not act or make any agreement with a law enforcement agency to act as a confidential human source or informant without first getting the pem1ission of the court.
12. If the probation officer determines that you pose a risk to another person (including an organization), the probation officer may require you to notify the person about the risk and you must comply with that instruction. The probation officer may contact the person and confirm that you have notified the person about the risk.
13. You must follow the instructions of the probation officer related to the conditions of supervision.
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We will publish whatever “Special Conditions of Probation” that were imposed on Lauren as soon as the judgment in her case is posted on PACER.
“Judge Wonders Why Albany Law Enforcement Never Prosecuted NXIVM”
Is the Judge mentally retarded?
Doesn’t he know that New York politics has been corrupt since the days of Tammany Hall and Boss Tweed?
Doesn’t he know that Governor Andrew Cuomo murdered thousands of nursing home residents during the Covid crisis and the US DOJ is refusing to investigate?
Is the Judge mentally retarded or is he part of the corruption?
Shadow,
—Is the judge mentally retarded?
—Is the judge mentally retarded or…?
“They say if you ask the same question two times in a row, you’re either a parrot or a retard.”
Nice Guy
You might be impressed with Federal judges.
I am not.
There are plenty of Federal Judges who are political hacks.
Why won’t Biden’s DOJ investigate Caligula Cuomo’s killing of thousands of nursing home patients?
Politics.
Garaulis knows damned well that politics protects many criminals like Raniere and Cuomo.
In Chicago we had a Federal judge named Otto Kerner who was convicted of mail fraud.
Otto Kerner Jr.
Scandal and conviction
In 1969, Marje Lindheimer Everett, manager of Arlington Park and Washington Park race tracks, engaged by federal prosecutors as an unindicted co-conspirator, was accused of bribing then-Governor Kerner and his Finance Director, Ted Isaacs, to gain choice racing dates for her Arlington Park racetrack. The alleged bribes were in the form of stock options in 1961 that Kerner bought at a reduced price and then sold in 1968 at a profit. The events came to light because Everett had deducted the value of the stock on her federal income tax returns in the belief that the stock option was an ordinary business expense in Illinois. Everett denied at trial that she intended to bribe Kerner, and the government never identified her as a briber.
Even though Kerner reported the profits in his tax returns he was charged with bribery and retained Paul Connolly and Thomas Patton of Williams & Connolly to represent him. Following a 1973 trial in which his prosecutors were future Illinois Republican governor James R. Thompson and future White House Chief of Staff, Republican Samuel K. Skinner. Kerner was convicted on 17 counts of mail fraud, conspiracy, perjury, and related charges.[9] On appeal, all counts were overturned with the exception of four counts of mail fraud. He was sentenced to three years in federal prison in Chicago and fined $50,000.[12] Faced with almost certain impeachment, he resigned his position on the federal bench on July 22, 1974.
Kerner began his sentence at a minimum-security Federal prison hospital in Lexington, Kentucky.[12] He was released early from prison when it was determined that he was suffering from terminal cancer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Kerner_Jr.#Scandal_and_conviction
Shadow-
I read your reply. What’s the relevance?
I sincerely don’t underestimate.
— The judge also praised Lauren’s efforts at rehabilitation, speaking glowingly about Lauren’s choice of a new career as a dog groomer, which he said, showed she had empathy —
From now on, every defendant coming before Judge G will be holding a well-groomed dog.
Do you think a couple of hermit crabs might help, too?
Well-groomed ones, of course. What about a gerbil or a hamster?
It could work, right?
Justin Case of any arrests.
A couple of quiet little crabs?
Or a hairless cat. Poor Keith- Lauren nails his azz for 120 and she continues to rub his nose in it by grooming hair.
On Twitter I asked Susan Dones whether she thought Lauren’s sentence was just.
She replied:
That’s from the O.G.
Alanzo
Thank you for sharing Susan’s response, Alonzo.
Thank Susan Dones for her fascinating answer after standing up in court and saying her piece.
This is a person who has endured a lot of “NXIVM Fair Game” for decades now, finally seeing the wheels of justice turn.
I see her as a member of the Old Guard, a lot like Gerry Armstrong is within the context of Scientology. But Susan got a courtroom to stand up in to give a victim statement at a criminal sentencing. Gerry Armstrong has been denied that, and has endured ongoing fair game from Scientology for 40 years. In fact, for Gerry, it has never stopped, and Mike Rinder continues it to this day.
Comparing Susan’s victim statement with her quote to me after the judge ruled is something I’ll be thinking about for a long time, as I work to get Gerry Armstrong the same platform Susan got.
Alanzo
“Buck
July 28, 2021 at 12:05 pm
To show you how powerful, smart, and manipulative Lauren is, and using all the techniques she learned at nxivm, she was able to convince the judge to do something completely irrational. Well played, Lauren…well played.”
Why do you think Allison Pimp Mack is studying Psychology?
To learn Neuro-Linguistic Programming for her own benefit in the future.
She won’t be learning NLP if she’s studying psychology.
Shadow,
—Why do you think Allison Pimp Mack is studying Psychology?
Maybe to understand herself better??!?!?!
Neuro-Linguistic Programming is pseudoscience and has been entirely debunked. No LEGITIMATE college or university offers degrees in that field.
Which is what makes NLP twice as dangerous – any charlaton who can read and impliment can find books that can teach them how to use NLP on others. At least when it was being touted in acadamia here and there it was under some sort of control mechanism – but since it’s now been debunked, it’s essentially been let loose into society with literally no controls making more people like Raniere and Salzman able to manipulate and use others to achieve their own gain.
A lot of Psychology is pseudo-science.
Psychology Not a Science, Never Will Be
Yes and no, it depends upon who you want to debate (or argue) with. In the case of NLP, it’s definitely dangerous in the wrong hands – which, at this stage, is most who look to use it. I have never heard of anything good coming from it being used.
This is excellent.
Thank you.
Nice Guy, what news! I had no idea that is Mack’s professional name. The more you know, the less I seem to know. Thanks for the revelation.
Shivani-
I was quoting Shadowstate
Furthermore, since that is allegedly and thanks to you, Mack’s full name, what can one call Nancy Salzman?
A Cheap Trick, a Phallus of Salt, a Sluice Gate of Pimpiness? What do you feel is appropriate for the infamous Uncle (not my uncle) Nancy?
I do enjoy saying Uncle Nancy and feel that it suits her well. Plus, I haven’t ever heard of an Uncle Nancy before. So it’s kind of catchy. Or maybe it’s just a phase to pass through about a phrase or a name?
For the day is young.
Does NXIVM University still exist? Elementary school knowledge and pseudoscientific nonsense are taught there. Maybe NLP is one of them?
So Lauren Salzman grooms dogs and Allison Mack grooms sex slaves.
The Ladies of NXIVM are up to their old tricks.
In the end, I think the government’s only goal was to take down Raniere and his cash cow. The others were prosecuted solely with the aim of coercing them to cooperate. Having done that, they are being cut loose (though Mack did get a slight spanking).
If Lauren can get out from under her mother, perhaps now she really has the opportunity to find her way to a happier and a much more authentic life. It is in her hands today, more than ever before.
I cannot begrudge her and am pleasantly surprised that Lauren does not have to enter another prison system. Maybe she is doing the best that she can. Judge Garaufis, working on the side of mercy, has spoken. For me, there are zero complaints and also, much respect for his decision. There’s hope and today, there is considerably more hope for Lauren, too.
Maybe some kind of a sense of peace can come to her, as she keeps going, less challenged now than if she had a prison sentence looming over her.
Sometimes mercy feels surprisingly good. Yes. This has been a surprise.
Thank you, Judge Garaufis. One less nail in the coffin. Lauren is getting a chance. Thanks for that. Really.
Was Bangkok at the sentencing? Where is Bangkok right now? Bangkok you fuckin’ perv she doesn’t want you, stay away, she’s a free woman now!
Bancock’s at the pet store. Looking to pick up a couple pooches with skin conditions.
Ice-Nine,
You should go easy! Bangkok lost the opportunity to make a new penpal.
FYI: Bangkok is busy “abroad” in the backyard:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CIvv2nhhctS/?utm_medium=copy_link
The Daily Mail has the story.
https://mol.im/a/9835913
My statement at Lauren Salzman’s sentencing hearing
July 28, 2021
Your Honor,
Thank you again for allowing me to speak during these proceedings. Today’s statement is especially painful for me because the defendant was not only my peer and coach—she was my best friend for nearly 17 years.
When I first joined ESP, Pamela Cafritz—one of Keith Raniere’s chief enablers—was excited that I was joining the harem because I would be Lauren Salzman’s friend and companion, given our age and intellectual compatibility. Ms. Salzman was smart, funny, kind and a seeming pioneer of the noble enterprise I too had just embarked on. It didn’t take long for me to love her, much less for her to earn my trust.
She became my coach shortly after I moved to Albany in 2002—not by choice, but because I began putting up a resistance against Raniere and his lifestyle. She described her role as the inner circle’s “therapist”—a role she secretly told me she resented. That meant she constantly did EMs with Raniere’s women—especially the rebellious ones—condoning and furthering the physical, emotional and psychological abuses.
Looking back at our friendship, Ms. Salzman’s role was to keep me under control, to manage me. She was a hostage negotiator of sorts, and my goodwill and willingness to continue working for the company were the hostages.
She ended our coaching relationship around 2006 because of my insubordination to Raniere’s and the inner circle’s sick demands. She shunned me for about three years after this, punishing me for her inability to control me. To this day, I don’t know why she apologized and resumed our friendship. It’s possible she saw that her punishment eventually fueled my desire to defect.
Once we resumed our friendship, Ms. Salzman was again called in as the last resort to contain me. When all other tactics failed—mostly others’ verbal and psychological abuse, exploitation and threats—she was brought in to “reason” with me. But her reasoning skills and appeal to my emotions were all gaslighting, manipulation and lies—tactics in what Raniere called “strong thought control” or “intellectual might-is-right.” Unfortunately, she mostly succeeded until the very end.
I have previously made the Court aware that Karen Unterreiner, Raniere’s longest-standing intimate relationship and a NXIVM leader, has since apologized to me for her role in keeping me from leaving. The event in question happened on the cusp of Raniere’s full-blown abuse of me in 2006.
Karen, the number three EM practitioner in the company, was tasked to talk me out of leaving just days before the company’s annual retreat at Silver Bay. By then, Raniere was already shunning me and further curtailing my personal freedoms, and Karen manipulated me into staying after a 5- or 6-hour long conversation in a Clifton Park parking lot one night.
I share this with the Court because that was Ms. Salzman’s primary role when all other means of control failed. But unlike Karen, Ms. Salzman never apologized.
She did not verbally abuse me as her mother did, which kept my trust in her somewhat intact. In hindsight, she groomed me to feel safe in the presence of a predator and his vicious pack.
Ms. Salzman could have stopped my forced labor, which I had rebelled against for years and years, yet she did nothing. In the very least she could have spoken out on my behalf—she knew how valuable I was to the entire network of companies under Raniere. On the contrary, she used her position and skills to try to force me to accept my exploitation and to do so with a smile.
A clear example is when she “graced” me with being my mentor during the last NXIVM workshop I took, ironically called “The Ethicist.” She made a clear point that she was deliberately taking time away from her busy schedule and prodigious responsibilities to help me.
The point of contention then was her mother’s absolute abuse of me as an employee, which I intend to detail in the near future. All of the EMs, sourcings and mentoring sessions revolved around my fight to end the exploitation—a fight that was met with objections at every possible point and angle.
And on the last day of the eight-day intensive training, Ms. Salzman didn’t show.
Instead, she sent me a text message, entrusting me to my other two supposed mentors—DOS members and Raniere loyalists Rosa Laura Junco and Sahajo Haertel (I had no idea DOS existed at the time). Ms. Salzman said she wasn’t willing to invest more of her precious time on someone who simply refused to grow.
Never have I been prouder—in hindsight of course—of my unwillingness to “grow.”
Your Honor, as I share this statement, I cannot help but flash between the abuses I’ve related and the times I treasured with the defendant—our stimulating conversations on mutual topics of interest, the heartfelt laughter we often shared and events where she stood by my side when I felt all was lost, such as the week she spent with me at the hospital in Mexico City when my father was dying.
I understand Ms. Salzman was the prosecution’s star witness and that she played a key role in bringing Raniere to justice. I also understand that because of this, she may serve a light sentence or perhaps no sentence at all. When I weigh the damage she did to me and others, I desire neither of those outcomes, but I earnestly respect the Court’s decision, whatever it may be.
All that is left is for me to address her one last time:
I trusted you above anyone else. You knew my weaknesses—my deepest fears and insecurities. You knew about my past trauma.
You knew my intent was not duplicitous or malicious. You knew me as I was, as I continue to be—yet you allowed so much damage, so much trauma and committed a great deal yourself.
You called yourself my best friend, you were a fellow woman, yet you did what you did. And you let Raniere and the others do what they did, even after I repeatedly begged you for help.
I imagine you’ve been living in fear since Raniere’s arrest. You knew it—we all knew it was a matter of time before you were arrested. I imagine today you’re especially terrified.
Reflect on that experience, on that fear—on that incessant stimulation to your nervous system, which can easily override the mind and emotions. Reflect on that feeling of powerlessness—of being trapped, with no way out and no light at the end of the tunnel. Think back on the nights you’ve lost sleep because of this, the nightmares you’ve had and the part of you that can’t help but think where you would be, had you only chosen differently.
That is the torture you subjected me to for too long. While you enjoyed power, clout and a lavish lifestyle, that was my daily experience while I was in Albany.
Pam wrote me this George Elliot quote on a birthday card once:
Oh, the comfort, the inexpressible comfort of feeling safe with a person; having neither to weigh thoughts nor measure words, but to pour them all out, just as they are, chaff and grain together, knowing that a faithful hand will take and sift them, keep what is worth keeping, and then, with a breath of kindness, blow the rest away.
All I wanted was to do something meaningful in the world. In you, all I wanted was a best friend.
Lauren, of all the pain you’ve caused me, the greatest is my broken heart.
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“Karen U apologized to her but Lauren never apologized.”
Is this one of the reasons why Karen U. seems to get a pass at this website?
Too many NXIVM Gangsters get a pass at this website.
Right, Mark Vicente?
I’ve seen Vicente take some deserved shots on here, especially after Seduced came out. But Karen U was constantly mentioned as being part of KR’s inner circle when he was running free and then all mentions of her stopped.
Karen U is one of the nicest people in the history of people. Although used up UGK style, she was hopefully (probably) smart enough to get compartmentalized out of Keith’s criminal shit.
Nutjob – sincerely hope you and Lauren write a book together.
You can always use a pseudonym. Like say…. Nutjob.
Ha ha ha.
Dang — is Nutjob playing with her hairless kitty?
[…] Updated 1:40: NO Prison Time for Lauren Salzman She Gets Probation Only – Judge Wonders Why Al… Frank Report […]
Who’s seeing the rebirth of DOS? In the next few years. Dog collars, spankings, and human-size cages. All for the growth of women. Now be a good slave and, blow me and make me a sandwich!
Lauren Salzman walked. That’s the penalty for racketeering and conspiracy. She spent twenty years advancing the cause of what the judge himself called a sex cult.
And she walks out of court a free woman.
To Aristotle’s Sausage
They’re already oiling up the whips and firing up the cauterizing pens in celebration.
Trash.
Lauren is guilty as hell. She got the Jew girl treatment.
What does that mean – “the Jew girl treatment?” I doubt that her being Jewish had the slightest thing to do with her sentence of probation. I think it had to do with her cooperation with the prosecution and her change of careers etc.
JAP: Jewish American Princess.
Allison also cooperated. She was ready to testify too but wasn’t called. But she got three years in prison even though she was love-bombed by Lauren and mom who wasn’t any less guilty than her. Allison didn’t become Raniere’s confident until post 2012 whereas Lauren was one for much longer.
Why didn’t Lauren get any jail time? She was in the cult for TWENTY years. She lied about Raniere well before Allison did.
It’s garbage.
We’ll see what happens to Nancy.
The comparison between Allison and Lauren is not evidence that her lower sentence was because Lauren is Jewish. There were other factors – including the fact that Lauren’s main victims forgave her – while Allison’s sought prison. And then Lauren got to be in front of the judge and broke down in front of him and she was in front of the prosecutors dozens of times — and they went to bat for her — and the personal thing is very real.
And Allison’s victims wanted her in prison while Lauren’s sought to forgive her. And the choice of the dog grooming business showed the judge that she had a tender caring heart — it might not be fair. Maybe Allison deserved probation too — but it happened I believe without any religious prejudice or bias.
Lauren’s main victims forgave her because they were “friends” from many years ago and several already had an old relationship with KR. So, if they had sex with KR, it was not a big problem for them, but the main reason is that, unlike Allison, Lauren was long one of KR’s “bomb defrosters” and knew how to handle other women.
This ugly, mean-spirited remark is appalling to me. If you want to condemn Jewish people, what kind of an individual are you? An Anonymous one. Of course. This is intolerable.
Fuck off.
Sincerely, Shivani
I completely agree with you Shivani. Especially the “Fuck off” part. Go away trash.
Thanks, Ice-nine. So very much.
The Spoils of War Keep Moving
If you really know how to mount a battle
and to see it through
Almost one hundred percent
of the time
you decide
You will not go into battle
Not anymore
That’s because
you have seen it already,
The spoils of war.
Here’s a poem for you from me. 💜 ❤️ 💕
That’s quite excellent Shivani, thank you!
I asked the individual to explain what he or she meant by this statement. I think it is important to question these remarks rather than just censor them.
The individual made an assertion and I want to explore this. The assertion I presume is that somehow Lauren got preferential treatment because she is Jewish.
In NYC I cannot say this is favoritism — Jeffrey Epstein [possibly murdered], Harvey Weinstein, lengthy sentence. And Ghislaine Maxwell still technically innocent, but treated abysmally at the MDC have not exactly gotten preferential treatment.
But I am open to evidence of any corruption at the official level. And preferntial treatment based on religion or anything else is a serious allegation. Evidence however is needed.
I didn’t condemn the Jewish people. What I meant was she got the JAP treatment. Yeah, it’s stereotypical, but it’s reflective of the spoiled rich girl, slap on the wrist.
Have you seen how a significant minority of Jews in Israel treat the Palestinians? Get off your high horse about “mean-spirited” remarks when there is actual “mean-spirited” mistreatment of people by them.
What does a hypothetical Jewish person’s behavior in Israel have to do with a real Jewish woman in New York?
Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
That is a clear example of anti-Semitic thinking. It’s illogical. And it’s offensive.
Full stop.
Boohoo.
Anti-semitism is the racial card played to revoke all criticism of behavior.
Full stop.
Clare Bronfman didn’t get the “JAP treatment”, as you say. Doesn’t she fit your description?
Scotty-
Sarah Bronfman, who is Jewish, received 6 years even though the DOJ asked for 2 years.
How’s things in Plano?
It’s crazy, but Alanzo makes me miss you.
😉
It was Clare Bronfman – not Sara – who got 6.75 years. But Nice Guy it is a good argument against the commenter who says female Jewish defendants get preferential treatment.
Frank-
Thanks for the correction!
“I’m tryin to think, but my brain ain’t workin.”
-Curly
No it isn’t. Clare didn’t renounce Raniere, accept any real wrongdoing on his or her part, nor provide state’s evidence against him.
Lauren Salzman is the Mike Rinder of NXIVM! She assisted law enforcement in exposing the evidence necessary to convict the ring leaders of felonies, and send them to prison.
Wait. Mike Rider has done none of that. Oh yeah, he continues to lie and distract away from criminal acts, especially those of David Miscavige. In fact, no indictments have been issued on Scientology since Mary Sue Hubbard went to prison in the early 1980’s, despite murders made to look like suicides, etc.
But at least Lauren and Mike aren’t brainwashed any more!! They believe just like us now.
They’re heroes!
Alanzo
Alanzo, you don’t know enough about the NXIVM case to make parallels between Lauren and Mike Rinder.
OK, so what parallels would you make between Lauren Salzman and Mike Rinder?
How about David Miscavige and Keith Raniere?
It’s very productive to use these 2 groups to see what law enforcement has done with them, what law enforcement has NOT done with them, and who has helped and who has hindered.
Wouldn’t you agree, “Someone”?
Alanzo
@alanzo, Dude. you are in love with mike rinder. You think of him everywhere you go. Ever considered asking him out on a date?
More whiTe knight garbage from the judge.
Smtolle-
For once I have to agree with you. If Mack and Salzman were black, fat, or men, they’d both would’ve received harsher sentences.
That’s right, statistically fat white women receive harsher sentences than skinny women. Boohoo!
Fatties get paid less too.
Now, if this is true, then Keith really had executive success in mind when he put the women on 800 calorie diets.
Ha ha ha! Good one! And it is true!
To Frank Parlato, July 28, 2021 at 3:01 pm
But he still didn’t pay his starving slaves any better than if they had been fat.
Wow….. Like it or not, justice is done.
With the exception of this comment…
I’m speechlessness!
Speechless!
To show you how powerful, smart, and manipulative Lauren is, and using all the techniques she learned at nxivm, she was able to convince the judge to do something completely irrational. Well played, Lauren…well played. Now you just have to wait for all the civil cases against you. Where did all the money go…. now that your outta prison…you will have your wages garnished.
There’s just one problem with the ‘no contact w/ cult members save for family’ part – her mother is a master at NLP, the last thing she needs it to have any contact w/ her. Yes, sometimes one just wants their mother but this mother damaged countless people’s lives and mental stability, she still has the ability to mess with Lauren’s head and she no doubt will at some point, if she hasn’t already started in some capacity or another. I hope Lauren has a very good therapist because she’s going to need one!
Is she prohibited from starting a new cult, MLM, or self help group?
Didn’t see this coming but it was the right decision. Best of luck to Lauren!
Totally agree. Best of luck, Lauren!
I wish her well too. This case had the right judge. I’m not sure I would have let her off completely, but wtf do I care for honestly, I don’t even know these people. Anyway, there is no reason not to wish her well at this point.
btw Nutjob thanks for your reply on the previous thread, not sure if you’ll go back and see that I read it. That was fucking awesome. I’m guessing you were bangin’ Toni Natalie, I bet she was a lot hotter back then.
Saw it. Thanks.
Lol – nah
Ice-Nine –
Bangin’ Toni?
With those Fuzzy Felt eyebrows?
Who knows where you’d find them in the morning! 🙄
Disgusting. Lauren hurt a lot of innocent people and she will do it again
It was the right decision by the Court. Let Lauren repair her life and follow a better path. I’m sure I will see her around town….
Damsels in distress under the Svengali spell of Keith Raniere.
We was brainwashed!!!!
Alanzo
Alanzo.
Nicki Clyne is in a really recent recorded interview lashing out at an interviewer in earnest, “I think you are brainwashed”.
How convenient. And hypocritical. And hilarious.
I saw that! She looked ridiculous and sounded like a child trying to explain her way through it (voice cracking and shaking). Then her mini tantrums directed at Lp, and the comments were hysterical! She’s so done 😂🤣
A link to that interview would be fun to see.
https://youtu.be/ho7sP0mX-qk
Enjoy! Make popcorn!
Just sayin’
It was finally just crystal clear why Nicki was in a back, back-burner Raniere’s slave position and Allison Mack swept in and ended up front and center. ” THE face of the cult”
Why Nicki’s was not used on any “Raniere speaks” promotional YouTube etc.
Which also informs Nicki’s jealousy of Allison.
Wow. Nicki. Is. Not. Good. At. Interviews.
Imagine if those responses were transcribed? Reading them – not just hearing them (which was damning enough).
And once again – so many lies. That interview would be an excellent court exhibit.
None of the commenters were buyin’ it either.
“They made a commitment with full knowledge of what they would and wouldn’t know.”
–Nicki Clyne
I think she has arrested development issues. Everything about her is childish (the consistent upper inflection, ugh..). And let’s not forget the ultimate idiocy of posting her pic on social media in Mexico 🤣 That never stops being funny.
What you said is SO TRUE!! She is not good at interviews!!! Even the defense wouldn’t let her speak. 🤣 She just keeps digging and digging her grave. I can’t wait for the next interview!!
Nicki keeps saying that she “is open” to the fact that Keith is a liar and a terrible person, but she just hasn’t seen any evidence of that.
Frank, why not arrange a conversation with someone as informed and level headed as Susan Dones ? Have her explain things to Nicki.
It sounds like she’s stuck in her DOSsier echo chamber. LP and his co-host challenged Nicki only very lightly. But why doesn’t Nicki interview with one of the NXIVM 9 instead of taking Keith’s word that they “aren’t credible”?
Wouldn’t that be an amazing interview? She could get all the evidence she needs and then maybe she would snap out of her loyalty to that Troll.
Frank! You should organize it and film it. It would be very interesting to see.
Nicki Whine didn’t say very friendly things about Frank in that interview so it’s doubtful.
Susan Dones said on a Little Bit Culty podcast that she offered to talk to them but they refused. They want to be heard unchallenged but refuse to take in any information.
Aw.. that’s lame. Those holdouts are so boring. Rise to the challenge, ladies!
@Alanzo, Everyone knows Keith Raniere indoctrinated people, in fact he himself admitted that. there is no difference between indoctrination and brainwashing as far as the end result is concerned. Your argument is really pseudo intellectual. you like to sound smart and pretend to care about people, but you have really no depth of understanding nor care. You are more interested in using your amateur intellectual gymnastics to look smart.