I mentioned in previous posts that Carlos Salinas de Gortari, former president of Mexico and father of Emiliano Salinas, is rumored to have a murderous streak.
Actually, he seems to have started killing early. As a child of four, he reportedly shot to death a family servant.
On December 17, 1951, his parents were out. His father, Raul Salinas Lozano, an economist, kept a 22 caliber rifle in his closet.
Carlos’ mother, Margarita de Gortari de Salinas, had gone shopping in the morning. They lived in Mexico City. There were two servants in the house.
Carlos, 4, his brother, Raul, 5 and their friend, Gustavo Rodolfo Zapata, 8 were playing ‘At War.’
On the terrace, one of the servants, Maria Torres Garrido, was washing clothes.
The other servant, Manuela, was 12 years old. Since she died with a broom by her side, it might be assumed she was sweeping. Manuela’s last name is unknown.
The girl had been traveling alone from house to house working for food and lodging when the Salinas family hired her. Carlos’ mother said she only knew her family was from San Pedro Atzcapotzaltongo. A friend introduced the homeless Manuela to Mrs. Salinas two months before.
Manuela was wearing a rose-colored dress and cheap black shoes on the day she died.
Around noon, as the children were playing their game of war, they sentenced Manuela to death. They had the father’s rifle. They asked Manuela to kneel so that the execution might be carried out.
Then Carlos, reportedly, lifted the 22 caliber rifle and fired. She was shot in the left side of her face. Doctors said the bullet entered Manuela’s cheekbone and lodged in her brain, killing her instantly.
After they killed her, the children went about playing.
Going down to the kitchen, the other servant, Maria, saw the three boys on the stairs. She spoke to them, but they paid no attention. She began to look for Manuela, going through several rooms before finding her body in a pool of blood. Her broom lay in blood by her side.
At that moment, the boys arrived. She asked them,` “What did you do to Manuela?’
They answered, “`We killed her!’”
Police were called. The boys were detained. They were disturbed because they couldn’t play freely at the station.
They laughed at times when questioned and answered all at once so that what they said was incomprehensible.
When asked who pulled the trigger, Carlos Salinas reportedly boasted, “I killed her with one shot, I am a hero!”
Mrs. Salinas told police the rifle was in the closet, far from the reach of the children:
She said the door was locked and she didn’t know how the children got the gun. She said Manuela had the key. She must have been the one who took the rifle out of the closet, Mrs. Salinas told police.
She was a very hard worker and very clean,” Mrs. Salinas added. “I’m really sorry about what happened.”
The judge blamed the killing on the Salinas parents since they had left a loaded rifle within reach of the children.
He ordered:
* that the children be taken to a place where nobody would speak of the killing;
* that a psychologist interrogate them to find out if any adult had put them up to it;
* that they be observed by a psychologist to determine whether they were of sound mind;
* that a psychologist devise a treatment to erase their memory of the incident; and
* that the boys be either placed in a school where nobody would ever talk about the killing, or taken on a couple of long vacations, after which they would be reevaluated and returned to their parents.
Carlos became president of Mexico 37 years later.
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Carlos Salinas was a child whose parents obviously did not instill respect for human life.
It stands to reason that Carlos did not instill much respect for life to his son, Emiliano. Such are the best followers of Keith Raniere.
I think it is interesting that the worst families who stole their wealth by hurting people should be the leading families in building Nxivm.
We have shown already that the Bronfman sisters, who funded Nxivm especially in America, got their inherited wealth from the filthy murderer and large scale illegal narcotic drug dealer Sam Bronfman.
Nxivm Mexico was established on the reputation of Emiliano Salinas, son of Carlos Salinas.
He began murdering when he was age 4.
Even child prodigy Raniere couldn’t top that accomplishment
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[…] Murderous Carlos Salinas Reportedly Killed His First Victim When He Was Four […]
I’m home sick and binge watching Narcos Mexico season two. They include this murder/killing on the show. Referencing the tight family relationships of the people in power. They additionally go into the 1988 election when a Salinas was elected. What I found really interesting was that they bleep out his name. I’m not sure if that is to avoid being sued or not. But the actor they show playing Salinas looks identical to him.
Whether that’s true or not, you can’t blame a 4-year-old child, they are not old enough to grasp the reality of something like that.
Fuck you. And fuck those little kids
“Another political assassination Edit
Following the election in September 1994, Secretary General of the PRI José Francisco Ruiz Massieu, Salinas’ former brother-in-law, was assassinated in downtown Mexico City in broad daylight. The murder was not solved during Salinas’s presidency, even when Mario Ruiz Massieu (Francisco’s brother) was the attorney general and in charge of the investigation.”
From Wikipedia. Old habits die hard for the Boss of Bosses. 1994 was also a bloody year for the Salinas regime.
I’m not sure that a 4 year old would necessarily have understood what they were doing – that’s a question for a child developmental specialist.
Such an event would be traumatic for a child as they did come to grasp what had happened, and the consequences. Though in Salinas’ case it may well be other parts of his background, including his family, that were more pivotal in his becoming who he is.
Boo Hoo Hoo Poor Carlos Salinas
He is just a traumatized little boy in a man’s body.
Anonymaker:
How did Carlos Salinas amass a fortune of an estimated 17 billion dollars?
By saving empty pop bottles and returning them for the deposit money?
Now the truth!
From TeleSur, a Brazilian TV network.
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DEA: ‘Yes,’ Mexican Billionaire Carlos Slim Is Linked to Drugs
By: OIivier Acuña
Many suspect he is the frontman for former President Carlos Salinas de Gortari, while a Mexican researcher said even former presidents are scared of talking about him.
Mexican reporter, writer and filmmaker Diego Enrique Osorno recently published a book of one of the world’s “allegedly” richest people, Mexican businessman Carlos Slim, who in 2011 was linked to drug trafficking by a DEA agent. In his book, Osorno writes that former Mexican presidents were “very fearful” of speaking about Slim. In March, Forbes said he was second only to Bill Gates in terms of riches, with a fortune hovering near US$80 billion.
WikiLeaks
recently revealed emails dated April 2011, that confirm Slim is involved in drug trafficking.
The first email is by Anya Alfano of global intelligence agency Strategic Forecasting, Inc., who was tasked with addressing Dell’s concerns about Slim. She wrote to Stratfor’s head of intelligence Fred Burton:
“Do we have any information about where Carlos Slim fits into the [drug) cartel dynamics that we’ve seen in Mexico? … Should clients have any concerns about dealing with him professionally?”
Burton then asks DEA Special Agent William F. Dionne the question:
“Billy, is the MX billionaire Carlos Slim linked to the narcos?”
Dionne replies, “Regarding your question, the MX telecommunication billionaire is.”
The Frontman for Former President Salinas de Gortari
I write “allegedly” the richest person because most of the fortune that is attributed to Slim actually belongs to one of Mexico’s biggest thieves, former President Carlos Salinas de Gortari.
A few months after his term ended, in December 1994, Salinas fled the country, leaving it in economic shambles. The situation was so grave that then U.S. President Bill Clinton felt forced to step in and order his Secretary of Treasury Robert Rubin to transfer US$20 billion in emergency funds to then Mexican President Ernesto Zedillo, who took the opportunity to buy himself a mansion worth close to US$1 million.
The question, however, is why the U.S. and Mexico did nothing to sanction Salinas in spite of the US$10 billion he stole from the Mexican people.
In March 1995, I was in New York City covering the arrest of influential ruling party politician Mario Ruiz Massieu, who fled Mexico fearing for his life after his brother — PRI president and possible future presidential candidate Francisco
Ruiz Massieu — and PRI presidential candidate Donaldo Colosio were murdered under alleged orders from the Salinas family. Of course, Carlos’ brother Raul Salinas paid the price and was imprisoned in the same maximum security jail from which power drug lord Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman escaped in July. However, Raul was never actually charged for either assassination, but instead served a sentence for fraud and money laundering. But, in line with the high-level of corruption and impunity in Mexico, Raul was acquitted in 2005 and released from jail.
Regrettably, the memory of all Mexicans seemed to have vanished.
At that same time, Dow Jones and Company announced Salinas had been named one of more than a dozen vice presidents of the board.
I spoke to then-Dow Jones CEO Roger May and asked him why Salinas had received the appointment. “Because he has invested over US$10 billion in Dow Jones stocks and components. All persons who have over that amount invested, are automatically named members of the board,” May said
I then asked him if he even cared where the money came from? And whether he cared Salinas stole the money from Mexico? May then said this was a question he could not respond to. A day or two later, Salinas decided to leave for Ireland with a stopover in Cuba.
Osorno describes the fear of interviewees to speak of Slim throughout eight years of research for his critical book on Slim, I would pose the question of whether people are scared of speaking of Slim or are they actually very scared of Salinas, who is currently said to be the most powerful person in Mexico.
Slim is in fact an obscure figure nationally and internationally, and his fortune is highly questionable.
Let’s begin with Slim’s wedding, which was officiated by Marcial Maciel, the founder of the highly controversial Legions of Christ. Maciel and collaborators were accused of corruption and, even worse, massive cases of pedophilia
Slim’s brother, Julian, was an official with the now extinct Federal Security Department, or DFS, and was directly involved in the “Dirty War” of the 1970s against socialists, communists and activists, during which thousands of people were kidnapped, tortured, disappeared, killed or imprisoned.
Osorno’s book, entitled, “Slim. The Political Biography of the World’s Richest Mexican,” describes a person who became wealthy thanks exclusively to his ties with Salinas, who is believed to have given Telmex — the Mexican telephone company that for many decades had a complete monopoly on landlines — away to Slim. In my opinion nobody gives anything away, therefore, to me, Salinas must be the owner and Slim the frontman. I’m not the only one with that suspicion.
Regardless, Slim’s dubious initial fortune of less than US$5 billion has grown to just over US$77 billion currently.
Osorno explained it took him over eight years to do the research for his book, about which he said:
“The idea to write it originated in my mind after reporting stories out of Oaxaca, Guerrero and Chiapas … stories of communities submerged in hunger and poverty … of groups negatively affected by the authoritarian system that still today exists in Mexico.”
He continued, explaining that in 2007 Forbes mentioned Slim as the wealthiest person in the world for the very first time.
“At that moment, I asked myself, what is going on? … who is this person? People say Carlos Salinas gave away Telmex to him, those were the many rumors going around. But some people were saying that Slim is simply the frontman.”
Socialist political activist Leda Silva wrote in Movimiento Socialista’s website that Slim has been Salinas’ main frontman for laundering the huge fortunes he stole from Mexico and exposes the absurd Telmex transaction that took place.
“Salinas sold Telmex to Slim for US$400 million and he didn’t even pay that full amount. The company was actually worth over US$12 billion at the time of the transaction,” she said. The sale took place in late 1989.
El Financiero, a Mexican newspaper that is fully aligned with the ruling PRI party, has denied any wrongdoing in the sale of Telmex and even shamelessly said that when “Slim bought it, it was only worth US$214 million,” which is absolutely ludicrous considering the company had complete dominance over home telephone service. A basic landline rent at that time was at least US$40 a month and Telmex serviced over 70 million.
Even today, Telmex controls over 94 percent of landlines and 75 percent of cellphone services, with rates among the highest in the world. He also owns Sears in Mexico and about 2,000 other companies, including in construction, finance and others.
Osorno said he spoke to over 100 people when researching for the Slim bio, but complained that most of the interviewees only spoke “off the record.”
“Fear of talking about Slim was so huge, that even two former presidents who had initially given their approval to include their statements in my book, later asked the statements to be pulled,” the writer said.
“There is great fear to speak of Slim. This is one of the factors I discovered throughout my research and is the reason why there is very little information … there is fear Slim will carry out reprisals,” he added.
Osorno also criticized Slim’s “mediocre” philanthropy and said he is such a “cheapskate” he drives his own car and “lives glued to a calculator.”
Votairenet website wrote in 2005 that Slim’s fortune came from arms trafficking. Slim would never be able to shake off the fact that he is “the frontman for the little man (Salinas) from Agualeguas (Salinas’ hometown in the northern state of Nuevo Leon), who ransacked Mexico like no other,” the Votairenet article said.
Rumors of Slim in Drug Trafficking Begin
In 2009, Madcow Morning News suggested that Carlos Slim made his fortune through drug trafficking and questioned how he made over US$50 billion in 10 years.
“Has anyone ever made US$50 billion before–or anything close–in just 10 years?,” the website questioned, before replying, “We think not. We think something about Carlos Slim smells fishy.”
https://www.telesurenglish.net/opinion/The-Mexican-Billionaire-Even-Ex-Presidents-Fear-Talking-About–20151201-0019.html
https://www.madcowprod.com/2019/02/11/carlos-slim-the-ny-times-the-trial-of-el-chapo-guzman/
From Reporter Daniel Hopsicker
Carlos Slim, the NY Times, & the trial of El Chapo Guzman
Former 17-year old beauty queens; diamond-encrusted pistols; cocaine in cans of hot peppers and gallons of cooking oil; 18-wheeler’s and ‘cocaine trains;’ drugged 13- year old girls at $5K a pop; a view of the Brooklyn Bridge through the windows of a cartel stash house.
The trial in Brooklyn of El Chapo Guzman, a short pudgy peasant from a mountainous Mexican state far off the beaten path, felt like sitting through a play by Samuel Beckett coupling black comedy with the ‘Theater of the Absurd.’
Partly that was because of the trial’s one big takeaway: “Not all drug money is bad.”
That’s because the real “jefe’s”of the drug trade— powerful Mexican industrialists, ensconced in privilege—remain anonymous and untouchable.
Remember early in the trial when there was talk of cocaine rolling north in compartments of specially-built railroad stock? The railroad involved wasn’t named, perhaps a deliberate omission. It’s owned (almost certainly) by Mexican industrialist Jose Serrano Segovia.
Serrano also owns Mexico’s biggest shipping line. His links to major drug traffickers go back decades.
El padrino in New York
The biggest Mexican industrialist whose name has yet to surface—el jefe de jefes—is the man who saved the New York Times from bankruptcy a decade ago.
In speculation about the true identity of the ‘Padrino’ behind Mexico’s biggest industry — drug trafficking — Mexican oligarch Carlos Slim has always been the odds-on favorite, as the Sulzberger family must have known when they accepted him into the family.
While Mr. Slim was expressing his touching commitment to a free press with a $250,000,000 investment in the New York Times during the global financial crisis in 2008, one person did speak up.
Antonio Maria Costa, head of the United Nations’ watchdog Office on Drugs and Crime was impolitic enough to blurt out the truth about a sea change in global climate far more inconvenient than rising sea levels
In the midst of the current world financial crisis, drug money is, in many instances, currently the only liquid investment capital,” Maria Costa told Reuters.
“Money made in the illicit drug trade is being used to keep banks afloat in the global financial crisis.”
“The drug trade at this time could be the world’s only growth industry.”
These are points seldom made in polite society in the West.
Carlos Slim’s investment in the N.Y. Times illustrates the fact that—apparently—not all drug money is bad.
The Slim Reaper
Oddly, Carlos Slim has multiple links to one of the best-known incidents in El Chapo’s drug trafficking career.
On September 24th 2007 an American-registered Gulfstream II business jet (N987SA) out of St. Petersburg Florida crash-landed in the jungles of Mexico’s Yucatan outside of Merida, the state capital in the middle of the night.
When it was found the next morning, the plane’s torn fuselage had spilled luggage across several acres packed with more than four tons of cocaine, as well as an unspecified amount of heroin.
Authorities immediately arrested everyone in the vicinity, then unloaded the cocaine from the wreckage.
That the Gulfstream II that crashed would turn out to have an exotic and colorful curriculum vitae almost went without saying.
It had flown for a for-real Russian Mobster in New York; it had flown for a major George W. Bush financial backer who was also a member of Skull & Bones; and it had recently been flying extraordinary renditions for the CIA.
Before that it flew missions for the CIA and DEA’s Plan Columbia activities, which can be assumed to have been various.
Just an incident in a long war
The real Slim Shady
Jose Luis Soladana’s Cancun International Airport was awash in corruption and intrigue, said investigators. The intrigue was being orchestrated by Fernando Chico Pardo, Carlos Slim’s long-time lieutenant former CFO and right-hand man for more than 16 years. (Pardo’s brother, Jaime Chico Pardo, was President of Slim’s major holding, Mexican telecommunications giant Telmex.)
They were this close.
Chico Pardo ostensibly left Slim’s employ—while retaining membership on the board of Slim’s holding company—to head up a hot prospect: Grupo Aeroporto del Sureste, S.A. de C.V., (ASUR), a publicly-traded Mexican corporation which exemplifies the “corporatization” that has revolutionized the Mexican drug trade.
ASUR owns and operates several dozen airports, including nine airports in the southeastern corner of Mexico alone, where Pardo’s fiefdom included Cozumel, Merida, Oaxaca, Veracruz, and, most especially, Cancun International Airport, the country’s second busiest airport, which Mexican officials had been forced to concede is a key entry point for drug and human trafficking.
More than 100 ASUR employees at Cancun International Airport were suspected of working with the “Cartel of the Southeast,” including the operations officer on duty in the private air terminal on the night of the Gulfstream incident, who at least two years after the crash was still being held in protective custody.
Mexican newspapers accused ASUR of moving large quantities of cocaine through Cancun International Airport, and pointed a finger at the company for being responsible for the Gulfstream drug flight crashing in the Yucatan.
https://www.madcowprod.com/2019/02/11/carlos-slim-the-ny-times-the-trial-of-el-chapo-guzman/
I didn’t say that Salinas necessarily deserved any sympathy – go back and read my last sentence.
But if he’d been the child of a noted humanitarian, and grew up to become what he did, then wouldn’t we at least be more likely to wonder if such a traumatic childhood event had a negative effect?
In order to understand things properly, you need to carefully consider cause and effect – and when correlation is not causation – and avoid falling into fallacies of thinking like hasty generalizations.
(also, see my response to Heidi, with research citations, showing that in many cases young children don’t understand that firearms aren’t toys, and that they can’t be played with)
Yeah, happens all the time in innocent child’s play. What’s another peasant girl, anyhow?
Maybe not all the time, but with relatively disturbing frequency (and I’m not discounting that Salinas being a rotten person raised by a rotten family, may not be an important part of the picture in this particular case):
A toddler found a handgun and fatally shot himself. His case is one of at least 73 accidental child deaths involving a gun in 2018
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2019/03/19/gun-deaths-shooting-accidents-killed-73-kids-last-year/3032060002/
“Parents believe their children know the difference between real guns and toy guns, but in 16% of unintentional firearm deaths among children younger than 13 years of age, the gun was mistaken for a toy.”
https://www.nationwidechildrens.org/research/areas-of-research/center-for-injury-research-and-policy/injury-topics/general/gun-safety
“the vast majority of child deaths appeared to occur when a child or children found a gun in the home that was improperly stored. The children then play with the gun. Often it is explicitly reported that the shooter believes the gun is unloaded.”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4602049/
(The latter is a factor easily overlooked, that not only may children not understand the difference between a toy and a real gun, but even if they do they may mistakenly assume that it is unloaded – and thus could be used as a toy)
p.s. Heidi, in one of my real lives as a former competitive ballroom dancer still in demand on the social dance scene, and in yet another of those amazing small world coincidences, I think I may have recently danced with one of your Pippino relatives – and no, you don’t need to frantically call around and see if someone is missing or has been turned into a lampshade (the latter alluding to delusional troll speculations), I can assure you that they left the dance floor quite happy as they were rather of a beginner at the dance involved and I try hard to make partners feel good about whatever level they are dancing it.
This story Is true. Also, current president López Obrador murdered a family member as a teenager.
To the Mexican elite the death of a worker has always been considered “collateral damage.”
The Mexican elite are primarily European in heritage.
The average Mexican is of mixed heritage (Mestizo or part Indian and part European.).
The Mexican population is 15% European and 65% or so Mestizo.
The rest of the population is all Indian or black.
To Mexico’s elite the rest of the population is considered second or third class citizens.
In college I took a whole semester of Mexican politics from a Professor Robert Scott who wrote an entire book on Mexican politics.
https://books.google.com/books/about/Mexican_Government_in_Transition.html?id=hQ9nAAAAMAAJ
Mexico’s politics and culture have changed only a little since 1964.
As for Carlos Salinas killing the family maid, during the NAFTA debate in 1994 I remember a radio talk show host named Chuck Harder discussing the tragic death of this young girl and how the Mexican elite covered it up.
Don’t expect the New York Times, owned by Salinas’ good friend Carlos Slim, to talk about her murder.