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By Kebele
Mr. Parlato,
THIS is why I stopped reading your blog this summer after following, and very occasionally posting, for well over 18 months but now choose to keep up on NXIVM through google alerts.
I’ve been involved in actively supporting cult dismantling and deprograming since “Operation Clambake” in the early aughts with a particular focus on gendered and sexual abuse which is what NXIVM has been primarily about. It’s operation as a MLM scam and the psychology of those taken in by them plays a part as a number of cults operate in this fashion, but it is most certainly not about one man and his experience with Amway years ago.
What happened Mr. Parlato?
Watching you allow your platform to be hijacked by people like Scott Johnson, MAGA blow-hards who slam libtards, feminists and snowflakes and giving actual posts to wackadoo Q Anon groupies has been embarrassing and mind boggling to watch. When Raniere was busted, for awhile there the comments section was filled with real discourse often with over 50 comments.
As soon as Scott Johnson and the above arrived, those discussions tanked: at Raniere’s capture, you were perfectly situated to become The blog where victims could SAFELY land to share their experiences in which all cult studies stakeholders would have benefited from – including yourself and your reputation in demonstrating that your fight is not simply for your own retribution but for the women who have been PROFOUNDLY abused.
I am a health care provider with a twenty year strong specialty in working with trauma, cult and sexual abuse survivors who moonlights as a cult buster and there is no room for me here or the people who most desperately need a safe social space to come out on.
That is why we are not here – the victims and the specialists who could be adding to the conversation, because you have chosen to highlight people such as Scott Johnson and his ilk.
I hope this post gives you a reason to reflect on your choices regarding the management of your blog and the opportunities it has missed in pushing out those who have real contributions to make and embracing a vampire who has sucked the promise and good from this platform with his 3000 posts.
I have to add my agreement. Scott detracts from real discourse and sharing of information in order to get himself some attention.
This person is right. I remember participating in a thread that was interesting and I made one post that was perhaps too revealing etc, and Scott Johnson attacked my comment, not in the usual troll fashion either, but in such fashion that I was triggered and disgusted. I’m no weak snowflake nor a whiny woman by any means but I was triggered and surprised that such a thing happened on Frank’ blog.
I stopped posting (basically) for several months, up til recently when Frank instated his moderation and announced that people participating in threads be civil and stay on topic. Though, I’m still leery of posting on “hot” threads –
Scott Johnson has already written 18 of 68 comments here so far.
I support Frank. I also accept he might or might not have done some crappy things while he worked for NXIVM. When he thought they were a quirky but harmless group. I like Frank and realize how much he helped those victimized by Raniere. Rarely is something black and white. People are individuals and shouldn’t be judged solely by a group they belong to or work for. There are many nuances to a person and their character. Even the best of us have skeletons in our closets, a moment when we were at our worst or made the wrong choice with best of intentions.
Looking at many of those in NXIVM I still have no idea who they actually are. Frank spoke of feeling sorry for Clare at one time. For all that she’s done or at least financed, I’m curious who she really is.
Of course she’s responsible for her actions but is she truly a bad person or one that is deceived? Nancy? Her daughters?
I think such self help and new age type philosophy is junk.Meditation. That’s just my opinion. I’m not saying those that practice such are wrong.
Scott, you’re the last person I want to argue with but I totally disagree. Although MLMs and cults have similarities, cults are more of a mind fuck. Also, that article you based your deprogramming opinion on was based on one persons opinion. . He had no first hand experience or knowledge. I would rather hear from Rick Ross who does have many years of experience.
Amway is an excellent opportunity. If you cannot succeed, you are obviously not working it hard enough.
Oops..mean’t Heather Ann
Heidi Ann you are so right. I would love to see an article or post by Rick Ross or someone with his knowledge put together something about how people are lured into a cult and the best way to help them when they get out. Something a layman could understand.
Rick Ross has his own website. Go read it. However, people like him are likely to do more harm than good, and here’s some good advice: http://allmlmfacts.org/2018/06/does-it-make-sense-to-intervene-in-a-cult/
Really, no need to insult Grandpa Munster.
Don’t be too concerned, Grandpa Munster has been dead a long time.
“As far as I can recall, No one in my family ever passed away for good” A Grandapa Munster quote.
Al Lewis: Born April 30,1923
Died February 3, 2003 (aged 82)
“You know in this family nothing ever stays buried” Grandpa Munster 1965
Al Lewis must rise from the ashes or someone must reassemble him from the ashes
or someone must clone him. As long as this is not cleared up, he is dead.
Hmm…. That nose looks awfully familar. Al Lewis never met Nancy, did he?
I think you’re onto something….
With respect, it’s been Shadow state 1958 who has truly hijacked this blog with his overabundance of strange and salacious Allison Mack posts–Scott Johnson has been acting very civilly.
Lena:
With all due respect Allison Mack’s acts of branding women like cattle and turning them into sex slaves is salacious.
I think Nancy Salzman is twenty times worse then Allison Mack ever was because Nancy offered up her own daughters to Keith Raniere’s pleasure. A mother, well a good mother, would do everything in their power to keep their daughter from becoming involved in a cult or become a slave to a deranged man–instead, Nancy encouraged it. Why shadow state focuses his entire “articles” on Allison Mack when Nancy Salzman’s actions are far more heinous and going against everything motherhood stands for is beyond me
“Why shadow state focuses his entire “articles” on Allison Mack when Nancy Salzman’s actions are far more heinous ”
Because prior to this blog shadowman had never heard of NXIVM or that Mack was involved. He has spent a good portion of his life fantasizing about Mack from her TV career. He never heard of Nancy until a year or so ago, therefore never had the desire to self pleasure to her, since she was not a glamorous celebrity.
Agree with you about that shadow guy but disagree with you about johnson. They are two nuts in the same sack.
FR is greatly helping Scott look as though he’s behaving civilly by censoring and/or segregating the vast majority of his abusive posts to the point where Scott should be charged with “forced labor.”
Scott is also badgering FR with a tantrum of emails demanding screen space no matter how outlandish his innocuous-seeming, yet deeply hateful, deceptive theories.
Scott’s monopoly of the comments section remind me so much our primary focus – Keith. I’m sure I’ll also be chastised for saying this.
I’m making a grilled ham/cheese sandwich tonight for dinner, with a glass of white wine. Libtards like me like this kind of stuff
Which “our” are you referring to? Shadow is primarily focused on Mack and I’m primarily focused on how Raniere applied what he learned while in Amway to NXIVM. Libtards like you think everyone thinks like you do.
The comments not posted are no less civil than the ones that are approved. As I’ve stated before, it is more important to me that Frank sees my comments than every other reader, combined. In fact, the comments that were not posted initially were so good that Frank decided, on his own, to post them later in their own thread: https://frankreport.com/2018/12/06/scott-johnson-the-unseen-comments/ I think that you’re jealous that Frank is seeing a lot of my excellent comments that you never see.
I haven’t talked with Frank since late July. The most recent email was September 22, when I asked him to ask other readers to write to the Waldorf school officials, which he did: https://frankreport.com/2018/09/22/scott-johnson-recommends-readers-send-email-to-waldorf-school-distance-yourself-from-raniere/ (and you didn’t). The previous email was April 22nd, I sent him a link to another person who was drawing parallels between NXIVM and Scientology. This comes nowhere near to “…badgering FR with a tantrum of emails demanding screen space no matter how outlandish his innocuous-seeming, yet deeply hateful, deceptive theories.” But I do enjoy your vivid imagination.
Frank can verify the above by checking his phone and email accounts, if he thinks it’s worth his time.
I am also jealous, Scott….
But the only reason is because I want Heidi to make up fake stories about me, too.
It’s almost as though she is a fiction writer.. …🤔
You forgot to deny writing the Rothschild story under an alias, Scott, along with your 10,000 asshole alias emails and comments. Oh, but you’re too proud of that anti-Semitic claptrap to refute it, aren’t you?
What Scott says is true.
That much is obvious Frank, which is what I meant . Hopefully you understood my earlier comment on another thread. I won’t say too much because I wasnt kidding about the people threatening me with lawsuits….they obviously do read FR if they asked me to remove my earlier comments (which did not include their names, BTW).
Consider who is honest and who is inventing stories about other people…and consider where you were staying when you were harassed.
Your defence of these posters: Scott and Flowers, deluded, painful to read idiots, who do little more than attack the same posters over and over again – that’s it – enough. You will never see me here again.
Is that so? including his pointed anti-semitic comments? I posted two comments free of the filth scott and flowers embody yet they were not posted. If Scott is right by you Mr. Parlato, perhaps you are NOT as innocent as I previously believed. Good luck for the demise of NEXIUM. Your karma is as you are making it.
Flowers are you saying HEIDI is involved in harassing Frank?
To whatever anon asked:
Frank confirmed that Scott was being honest – he has NOT sent Frank angry emails, etc. Which means that Heidi invented the story about Scott. ..her assumptions about Scott were not based on facts, but she presented them as though they were true facts.
I merely said to look at who is being honest, who is blatantly lying, and consider when the harassment occurred. I can’t make accusations because it didn’t happen to me, so I don’t know all the facts….maybe Frank WAS severely harassed at other points in time.
What I can say for sure, is that I have personally witnessed my harassers create false stories on SM pages to pretend they were being harassed, and then actually lie to police about it when it was reported to police. ….
If the way you interact with others on this blog is indicative of the way you act with others then I have to say I doubt anyone had to ‘pretend’ you were harassing them.
I wish you’d just send ALL your comments directly to Frank.
The saying “a broken clock is right twice a day”, fits both Shadowstate and Scott Johnson well.
Every so often, both make posts that are intelligent and insightful. Unfortunately, that is the exception, and not the rule.
Most of the time, their “contributions” serve to highlight how stupid they both are.
I agree with the author of this post, that it’s a shame that Frank took “the low road”, by not only not banning them, but also giving them a platform, thereby encouraging them.
This has only driven away people who were actually there. The firsthand NXIVM stories, in my opinion, are the only ones that are worth hearing, and I’m pretty sure most readers could care less about the opinions of Scott or Shadowstate.
Just because most of my comments go over your head doesn’t mean they aren’t great comments.
Trust me when I say you’re not as smart as you think you are. I’ve taught grade-schoolers that are more intelligent than you are.
P.S. – Your need to continually have the last word points to a deep-seated insecurity, and desperation for acceptance. I don’t “hate” you, the way some people do:
I feel sorry for you. If you are in fact 60 years old (as some have said) it’s really sad that you’ve reached this age, and not found inner peace.
Key word – acting.
As soon as I see Shadowstate or Scott I move on. It’s just too much of….them.
Me too. But is hard to skip when they seem to be everywhere.
That’s why I don’t read the comments much. It’s all Scott and Shadow all the time. I think I’d rather get branded on my balls than see another Allison Mack is….(insert something gross/violent/deviant) article.
Hopefully the changes implemented in the past few weeks will continue, I would like to see more posts from actual cult deprogrammers and others who work in related fields. Professionals will get a lot farther with nxivm’s looking for information and a way out than those of us simply sharing our opinions.
Nxivm S who have safely gotten out should share their stories too.
Cult deprogrammers are a joke: http://allmlmfacts.org/2018/06/does-it-make-sense-to-intervene-in-a-cult/
My question is why does Scott Johnson take all the heat for disrupting the comment section on this blog? Yes, he does feel the need to post one-liners and he is always beating the drum against the MLM and yes, he has said some very hurtful and uncaring things to others here but that shouldn’t happen again with the new comment policy.
What about the commenters who have nothing to do with this story but keep droning on trying to get attention shifted to them and then act to disrupt people with real information by calling them liars and imposters? I find that to be far more disrespectful to the work being done here by Frank and those submitting articles.
If you don’t like Scott Johnson’s comments, then don’t read them. He always puts his name at the top and the avatar is hard to mistake for anyone else’s – just scroll on by.
Are you referring to Flowers?
I am referring to Flowers but was trying to be kind and not mention any names. I see she’s accusing Nutjob of writing the comment so I will have to be specific.
Lol. Is kind your word for passive aggressive?
Actually, IMO, I have mentioned my harassment experiences here only because I think the perpetrators do belong to a cult, and I had hoped to learn more from others who may have had similar experiences.
No Flowers. I was being kind. Full stop. It’s a concept with which you seem unfamiliar. I suggest you try it on and you may find your outlook could turn around.
[deleted] You seem to be suggesting it would be kind to let them get away with their crimes.
The hypocrisy of this blog, the people commenting, including the so-called victims, knows no bounds. Seems many victims were okay with the cult, its operation, Raniere until they were thrown under the bus in some fashion. The prosecution is hailed as the good guys and the defense lawyers scum. Does the same hold true involving Frank’s indictment? And it’s convenient that the people Frank “went after for Clare or NXIVM were “really bad guys too”. So, of course, he didn’t victimize any innocents. And the NXIVM victims didn’t hold anyone down while they were being branded. Or shunned anyone or ridiculed anyone.
I don’t think there is anyone innocent anywhere in this story.
Says the only voice of innocent reason? very confusing comment blending Frank, Nexium victims, with Clare, Raniere and the Nexium org. itself. This is the Frank Report, so, yes the prosecution carries everyones hopes for justice, while the defence must defend the indefensible.
You have given the appearance of being a supporter of Frank and this site up till now. Hypocrisy? Know thyself.
IDK who put you on your high horse, Mitch, but I hope you’re getting fed lots of carrots.
Good points, Mitch. Frank’s lawsuit is heating up, check your email.
As usual, good points Mitch.
WAR ITSELF IS THE ENEMY, not Nations or people. (As I’m sure someone famous once said. 😁.)
Scott Johnson needs to be banned because he causes conflict, creates distraction and discord by attacking EVERYONE including Frank and the integrity of the site. He often contradicts his own alleged ideologies, he just throws out schlock to start shit. I doubt he’s even a true Trump supporter. Scott claims Trump stole his whole hate-speech act: that he, Scott Johnson, “was Trump before Trump was Trump.”
This hateful accreditation is not supportive of Trump or his policies. It’s an embarrassment. If anything, as Scott’s shown us here on FR, “hate speech” DOES spur conflict and does have a deliterious, emotional impact.
It also negatively reflects on its purveyors. If Trump’s impeached it will be largely because of the hate speech, not necessarily his acts or policies. IMO.
If Scott is to be believed, we can all thank him for “inventing” the “very effective” hate-speech style that cost Donald Trump his presidency.
IMO—no, “the “very effective” hate-speech style that cost Donald Trump his presidency” actually is what helped get him elected. His contempt for the law and the truth is what will get him impeached (or more likely to resign)
But on topic–Scott’s boring one liners can now be easily ignored
Playing loose with the facts I see. President Trump will not be impeached. On what grounds? You are aware that he picked up seats in the senate with more to come as the obvious election fraud is being investigated. Also hate speech?????……have you ever listened to your fellow democrats or CNN or MSNBC????
Huh interesting huh
Some law breaker. The Trump Presidential train rolls on despite the opinion of the NXIVM crowd.
Stormy Daniels ordered to pay President Trump $293G in legal fees
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/stormy-daniels-ordered-to-pay-president-trump-293g-in-legal-fees
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/420865-judge-orders-stormy-daniels-to-pay-trump-293k-in-legal-fees
Why a whore thought she could be defamed is a hilarious concept, and Stormy can thank Avenati for that “brilliant” lawsuit.
Since Cohen just got 3 years behind bars and blamed Trump for his crimes, it’s not looking so good for your hero right now.
Judge Pauley added that “as a lawyer, Mr. Cohen should have known better.”
Cohen pleaded his case for leniency in front of a federal judge in Manhattan, accusing President Trump – his former boss – of causing him to “follow a path of darkness rather than light” and “cover up his dirty deeds,” according to the Newsday reporter.
Prosecutors in the Justice Department’s Southern District of New York charged Cohen with eight felony counts in August, including tax evasion, making false statements to a financial institution, and campaign finance violations. Special counsel Robert Mueller, tasked with investigating Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election, tacked on an additional count of lying to Congress last month.
LOL flowers….swing and a miss
One significant problem could be that the campaign finance charge against the president is a pretty iffy case. Back in 2010, the Justice Department accused 2008 presidential candidate John Edwards of a similar scheme — an alleged campaign finance violation based on a payoff to a woman with whom Edwards had had an affair (and a child).
Edwards said he arranged the payment to save his reputation and hide the affair from his wife. The Justice Department said it was to influence the outcome of a presidential election.
The New York Times called the Edwards indictment “a case that had no precedent.” Noting that campaign finance law is “ever changing,” the paper said the Edwards case came down to one question: “Were the donations for the sole purpose of influencing the campaign or merely one purpose?”
The Justice Department failed miserably at trial. Edwards was acquitted on one count, while the jury deadlocked — in Edwards’ favor — on the others. Prosecutors opted not to try again.
President Trump would point out that the accusation against him differs in at least one key respect from Edwards. Prosecutors accused Edwards of raising donor money to pay off the woman. Trump used his own money, which even the byzantine and restrictive campaign finance laws give candidates a lot of freedom to use in unlimited amounts.
So even more than Edwards, if the Justice Department pursued a case against Trump, it would be on unprecedented grounds.
But the political reality is, it doesn’t really matter if it is a weak case. And it doesn’t matter if Trump himself has not been indicted, or even that a sitting president cannot be indicted. Because now, Democrats can say, “The Justice Department has implicated the president in two felonies. Two felonies. TWO FELONIES!”
Politically, that’s as good as an indictment of Trump — perhaps even better, since it does not give the president a forum to make a proper legal defense.
The last few days have seen a big pivot in the campaign against Donald Trump. For two-plus years, it was Russia, Russia, Russia. But despite various revelations in the Russia probe, the case for collusion remains as sketchy as ever. Now, though, prosecutors in the Southern District of New York have given Democrats a new weapon against the president. Look for them to use it.
Byron York is chief political correspondent for The Washington Examiner.
It will amount to nothing. Just as the Russia collusion will be shown to be the democrats, this bogus campaign contribution nonsense will also turn to ash but without first burning the democrats
Disagree. Trump’s promise to “drain the swamp” as a political outsider was chiefly what got him independent or non-partisan votes and while his use of jackhammer politics was acceptable during the campaign, it’s not the kind of behavior one expects from our President in office. It has obscured any legit policy points, turned his own party leaders against him, incites divisiveness, increases racial tensions and made US laughing stocks even among our allies.
Unless you just want to concede to nihilism and let everybody kill each other like nature intended, Neitche.
…Or rely on the powers of a benevolent dictator such as Vanguard, leading “ethical humanists” who control the world’s wealth to keep us under control and undisintegrated.
What we are seeing are extraordinary efforts by the democrats and crooked intelligence higher ups all dead set on taking Trump down, even more so now that they are close to being exposed.
First we have a bogus dossier paid for by Clinton.
FBI/DOJ officials fired for anti-Trump plotting.
Leaks to the lefty news by Mueller.
Mueller’s team full of hardcore lefties, even an ex-Clinton lawyer.
The extraordinary raid of a sitting Presidents lawyer, Cohen. Unprecedented.
Then long time Hillary hitman Lanny Davis represents Cohen…..unbelievable……
FBI raids a protected whisleblower how has evidence of wrongdoing at the Clinton Foundation.
Newly elected New York AG promises endless investigations into Trump.
It is obvious highly illegal efforts were made to set up then try and take down a President
Its kinda funny how Lefty has determined that anything Cohen says that is Trump hate is true, but he is a lying MF on everything else
Trump will be your President until 2025
Meanwhile, Cohen (and many other Trump associates) plead guilty. Cohen even admits that Trump is responsible for basically brainwashing him to convince him to commit crimes for him.
(Maybe Hillary is actually is the one who convinced Cohen to follow a “path of darkness” Green Lantern. She probably sent him some illegal emails and used advanced MK-Ulta email technology to brainwash him and turn him into a puppet. She and Obama planned this heinous caper while enjoying pizzas and babies blood, their favorites. )
And I bet Mueller is a fake Republican….he must be a secret Democrat, right, Green Lantern? Just like Scott Johnson Lol.
If you were wise Green L, you would pay attention to who is trying to smear who with false stories, such as the false rape allegations made against Mueller. The woman even admitted later that she has no idea who raped her (but she thought he kinda resembled Mueller)…. plus she is a very non-credible witness, who was involved with criminals and prostitution.
If they have to invent fake stories to try and smear someone’s reputation, what does that mean?
Well I see where Scott gets his good looks from. Thanks for the delightful picture, Frank.
Heidi- are you suggesting that Scott has been clever enough to fool us all, and that he’s really a secret …uh….libtard? Were you reading the forum back in June and July, when Scott called me LIBTARD SNOWFLAKE approximately 100 times, all because I questioned the authenticity of his boy, Ben , and the mental stability of The Tanster?
Even if Scott were actually clever enough (doubtful, BTW) to disguise that he’s really a secret Libtard-loving liberal, what would be the point? Why in the world would he want to do that?….I don’t understand the point of such a weird deception.
Mitch- it depends on your definition of innocent. Certainly most who were involved with the cult will not be charged and found guilty of a crime…so legally they could be called innocent.
IMO- No one is droning on to get attention shifted to them. I suggest you stop being so passive aggressive and show the courage to outright say what you mean.
I’ll help you understand, and weed through the passive aggressiveness, Flowers. When IMO typed that some on this site “act to disrupt people with real information by calling them liars and imposters”, IMO was referencing you.
Really??? I thought IMO was referring to some kind of nutjob….But how do you know who they were talking about unless you were IMO yourself?
Actually, Nutjob, why don’t you comment on my question asking why Scott would pretend to love Trump (but is really a secret libtard.) I thought that was a very bizarre comment for Heidi to make about Scott, and I can’t understand the reasoning behind her accusations. What would be the point of Scott lying about his political beliefs? Did he lie just so he could promote the crazy Szemkus story?
And if so, why would he want to do that?
I didn’t say Scott’s a liberal, Flowers. I think his ego knows no bounds, political or otherwise. He’s a chameleon like most narcissists. IMO. Like Trump was once a Democrat before the Republican job opening came up. Like Keith Raniere would have happily had the Bronfman’s finance Trump not Hillary if he weren’t such a loser and made the wrong power gambit.
Flowers, don’t flatter yourself. I called you a Snowflake Libtard for numerous reasons, not just a single reason.
Scott, you originally attacked me because I questioned the Szemkus story. I don’t believe you ever replied to me before I commented on the Ben story, so obviously you couldn’t find anything to attack me on prior to me calling fake on the Szemkus story.
Heidi, conflict is good, and Frank agrees. What’s the point if everyone is agreeing with each other? I have no conflicts, you lack knowledge. My associating with Trump has absolutely nothing to do with hate, it has to do with being a counterpuncher. When I am [verbally] slapped, I hit back, HARD. That is the meaning, not some “hate speech” tripe.
Conflict is entertaining, Scott. Not “good.” But with no commentors left after you’ve nuked the shit out of anyone who even threatens to call you out on your Schlock by their very existence, where’s the conflict? Where’s the blog?
It’s just some Schlock report with some inbred, anti-Semite redneck playing Trump mini-me…oh, wait, that’s your radio show.
Hopefully, people will find the comments section much more constructive now FP reviews posts and individuals with knowledge, like this author, can feel they can contribute again
Hopefully, people like this author will be “brave” enough to use their real name.
So whatever happened to Scott Johnson’s best friend – Ben Szemkus and his Stormy Daniels story?
What about the fake lie detector test given by a fake examiner and P. I.?
Yeah, those stories went far.
Or the time Scott claimed he worked undercover at Amway for 4 years to gather evidence? That case really went far too.
In fact, it went so far Scott was sued by Amway and had to settle [deleted]
Ben’s story is becoming more believable every day, as the weird stuff about NXIVM keeps piling up. How do you know it was a fake lie detector test and fake examiner/PI? I checked out his experience, provided real testimony in real court cases. Have you done that?
Which “weird stuff” makes Ben’s story more believable?
You lose it with your hypocrisy. MAGA blowhards ruin the forum? Sorry toots, many of us have been here from the beginning and have had dealings with NXIVN. We are also happy to see President Trump in office. Yes I agree Johnson is a waste of space but so are many of the comments from the alt left liberal blowhards and the misandrous feminists.
How dare you put a picture of my father on this website. Show some manners regarding privacy.
Nice comeback Scott!
Thanks. Why not add a comment joke to a joke of a story?