According to a source, a neighbor living near the home of Allison Mack reported she got a knock on her door one day. When she answered it, she was advised by a young woman that there would be some women practicing an innovative new type of yoga inside Mack’s home and that it was a very intense practice, so intense that she might hear screams.
The young woman who explained the yoga practice might lead to screaming was described by my source as slender, possibly under 100 pounds.
The slender young woman further advised the neighbor, that if she did hear screams or cries, not to call the police. It was merely the result of their high-intensity, strenuous yoga.
The woman who was so advised told my source that she actually did hear screams but because she had been forewarned thought little about it… that is until after the branding story became worldwide news.
It is believed the same young woman or others went to other homes and told neighbors within earshot of Mack’s homes the same high-intensity yoga story.
Mack owned a home at 7 General’s Way and rented a home, with Nicki Clyne, at 127 Grenadier – both in Knox Woods.
Both houses are believed to have been the scene of branding episodes. It was also reported that Allison Mack hosted at least one branding session at her Brooklyn apartment, where she was later arrested by FBI agents on April 20, 2018.
House of Horrors – Allison Mack and Nicki Clyne’s rented townhome at 127 Grenadier, where some of the branding [yoga?] took place.
There are many kinds of high intensity yoga practices. One of them is Hot Yoga,
Hot Yoga
I said the story was bullshit. Pure bullshit…..can you read asshole. The point on your empty head is perfect for your dunce cap. Take a fucking hike loser
This is for the numnut Scooter Johnson. Posted it as a reply to the loser yet it came to the top. Probably a good thing as the jerk should see how most see him.
Didn’t Catherine Oxenberg say in her book that Mack’s old roommates said she would be up in the middle of the night screaming to herself?
I just found this on Michael Rosenbaums instagram. There is a shot of Madam Ally and I wonder what you all think of that expression
https://www.instagram.com/p/BqHH6LAA4rM/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=k79i7b0n5o9j
Her expression is bizarre to say the least! What the hell????
WHAT IF KEITH WALKS FREE?
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Even though it’s unthinkable that Keith might get acquitted of all charges and simply walk free next year…
What if he does?
What if Clare walks too?
What would Keith and Clare do after walking free?
Many people think they’d go right back to funding and recruiting for NXIVM as though nothing has changed, but is that really possible?
Nope. It’s not.
NXIVM is finished as an organization that can actually ‘recruit’ and ‘raise funds’.
There’s way too much negative press and negative stories online, regarding the perverted acts of sexual deviants.
Who the fuck is gonna attend an intensive now?
Keith can’t just use a ‘new’ name for his organization either.
Why?
Because Raniere’s personal name is just as toxic.
He can’t just remove his personal name from the new organization either, since without Keith Raniere’s reputation as “the smartest man in the world” the organization won’t have anything to suck people in.
After all, they can’t promote Clare Bear (aka ‘the dunce’) as being the head of the organization.
Why?
Because not only is she uglier than a mule, but she’s also dumber than a box of dirt.
What about Allie Mack?
Allison’s name is as toxic as a dirty bomb.
Her recruiting days are over since no matter what happens at trial — regardless of whether she’s acquitted or not — the public will forever view her as a sick and twisted sex slaver.
So how exactly would a ‘new’ NXIVM flourish under these circumstances?
It wouldn’t.
HERE’S THE REALITY:
Clare Bear would basically have to pay for everything herself for the rest of her life, with no funds coming from new recruits or intensives ever again.
It would be a skeleton organization with just Keith, Clare Bear, Allison, Clicky Nine and probably 2 or 3 dozen of their closest minions as members — kinda like a “pretend organization” where Clare pays everybody’s salaries for life.
That might work for a few months or a year, but sooner or later, Clare will get sick of paying for everything.
It’s well known that Clare was already getting angry at having to pay so much of NXIVM’s expenses even BEFORE it collapsed and lost all income sources.
Clare would therefore not likely be willing to waste her entire fortune funding a ‘new’ NXIVM which had no income sources other than her.
For Clare, part of what she loved was aspiring to be a “respected leader” of a large and legit organization — which she finally achieved last year via her LEGATUS promotion.
However, the term “Legatus” just won’t have the same ‘status’ WHEN the organization has shrunk down to just a couple dozen minions.
What about Salinas and Betancourt?
Those guys would never go back to Keith and Clare ever again.
Their own family names are already tarnished in Mexico — which is why both guys are doing everything they can to create ‘space’ between themselves and Raniere.
The Mexico operations will never again be resumed with Keith at the helm since his name is too toxic there.
Keith might have a few minions in Mexico who will stay loyal to him, but the bigwigs in Mexico aren’t coming back to Keith ever again since there’s no upside to it.
The way I see it, if Keith gets acquitted and walks free — he’ll probably be taken care of by Clare for maybe a year or two, while they both con themselves into thinking that NXIVM can be revived.
After a while though, Clare will get sick of footing the bills for Keith’s sex romps with those few female minions who remain loyal to him.
She’ll likely get tired of paying for everything and eventually cut him off financially, and leave.
Allie Mack will likely be stuck working at Taco Bell since no respectable company would ever hire her again. Her acting days are over and her sponsorship days are gone too.
Clicky Nine will likely get work waiting tables and cleaning toilets at a Vegan Eatery.
Pea Onyu will likely get committed to a mental hospital after trying to stalk Keith —- after he calls the cops to report that he’s never even met this crazy fangirl who keeps showing up at his front door pretending to know him.
Flowers will likely continue to get the meds she needs to deal with her ‘gaslighting’ issues, and hopefully she’ll get straightened out mentally.
All in all, that’s the way I see things. 🙂
Nobody
You really are a nobody, aren’t you. Such a pathetic little weasel…you have no connection to NXIVM, you claim, and yet here you are, everyday, …..spewing obnoxious and often baseless assumptions about people you have never met in your life.
I can maybe understand your reasoning behind your comments about Keith, Clare, etc….considering that they are criminals and much has been written about them….. But why in the world would you address ME? You don’t know anything about me except the very small amount of information I shared here (the rest of the “facts” you’ve written about me are all bullshit lies that you fabricated in your warped and delusional mind.
Why the obsessive interest in a woman you don’t even know, Nobody? The trolls all complain about Shadow’s obsession with Allie Mack, but you are much worse and much creepier, Nobody, because here you are – bullying a stranger and writing fabricated stories, that in your whacked-out mind you percieve as reality.
If anyone here could benefit from psychiatric medication, you surely would be the one.
The only screaming heard was the screams of delight when our glorious Vanguard mentored us. And that was high intensity Tantric yoga. Behold. He walks among us and mentors us again on April 20 #FeelTheLove #FeelHisJoyInside
Pea,
Why do you keep mentioning April 20th?
Don’t you know that date is Hitler’s birth date?
Speakng of coincidences, Pea, did you realize that in 1973 Elton John wrote a song about Allison being pursued by lesbians like Clare Bronfman?
All the Young Girls Love Alice/Allison.
“All The Girls Love Alice” by Elton John
Raised to be a lady by the golden rule
Alice was the spawn of a public school
With a double barrel name in the back of her brain
And a simple case of Mummy-doesn’t-love-me blues
Reality it seems was just a dream
She couldn’t get it on with the boys on the scene
But what do you expect from a chick who’s just sixteen
And hey, hey, hey, you know what I mean
All the young girls love Alice
Tender young Alice they say
Come over and see me
Come over and please me
Alice it’s my turn today
All the young girls love Alice
Tender young Alice they say
If I give you my number
Will you promise to call me
Wait till my husband’s away
Poor little darling with a chip out of her heart
It’s like acting in a movie when you got the wrong part
Getting your kicks in another girl’s bed
And it was only last Tuesday they found you in the subway dead
And who could you call your friends down in Soho
One or two middle-aged dykes in a Go-Go
And what do you expect from a sixteen year old yo-yo
And hey, hey, hey, oh don’t you know
That any woman would fall for the word salad bullshit that comes out of his mouth such that they would spread their legs for him shows how stupid many women have become today.
#Feel Him Rob You Blind
# Hope he dies inside
MDC
Kristin Kreuk actually “liked” this tweet by fellow NXIVM cultist Kayla Grosse: https://twitter.com/KaylaGrosse/status/1058168672718487552
Yet she is still refusing to talk about NXIVM because she is not clean and she knows it. She didn’t think “fuck cults” when she was named in the same expose that revealed Keith Raniere raped little girls. Or when she was named as a likely future defendant in a criminal lawsuit.
She also “liked” this bullshit by a crazy stalker fan: https://twitter.com/KreukWelling/status/980930169715220486
In it, this person who thinks she knows what she’s talking about actually tries to shift the blame on Frank, someone who turned against NXIVM and has an entire blog devoted to exposing the cult and bringing it down. Yet Kristin Crook liked what was said and wants the heat on Frank when she refuses to even acknowledge her own big role in the cult. She also “liked” a few other tweets from people who don’t know what they are talking about defending her when she knows she is not clean.
Flowers would call and make a noise complaint. Lol 🙂
Flowers would accuse them of harassing her. 🙂
Flowers wouldn’t call, she would post the complaint on this website.
SMH! You’re right! WTF was I thinking? 🙂
I’m just here to help.
People regularly report noise complaints to the police, so if there was loud screaming frequently heard coming from the house, I would be surprised if no one ever once called the police to report it.
No doubt- why are you commenting on my comment? Are you bored and you just can’t find a useful activity to occupy your time ? Or are you just that incredibly stupid? Both?
I’m sure if stopped being an asshole for even 2 minutes, you could find something productive to do with your time.
Settle down there, Flowers. It’s not nice to call people names. I believe this is where people comment so that’s what I did. 🙂
I don’t believe there’s any law against it.
Who said it was against the law? I asked why you find it necessary to write a worthless comment just to bully someone? Does your worthless life stink that much, asshole, ..that you have nothing better to do than troll here, and then whine like a little baby when I call you out on your comments?
No one is whining here but you, Toots. You should check your fridge for some cheese to munch on. 🙂
Those who cannot take it should not dish it. 🙂
The RCMP has a file on Flowers because she phones them to complain about criminals stalking her every month. LOL.
The RCMP knows Flowers as the “bonkers” lady.
The receptionists at their Vancouver office have orders to send Flowers directly to voice mail from now on. LOL.
This is 7
Fake News
Are you counting Clicky’s posts about me? Why are his posts not bullying, but mine are?
You see, bullies , this is how it works- when you write a post written solely to insult me, then YOU are the bully. If I chose to insult you back, my insult doesn’t cancel out your original bullying post. You still wrote it, and you wrote it without a reason…..so that’s some very SICK behaviour ,little alt-right boys.
This is 6
Yes where ever you see flowers and Johnson there is always an issue. Parlato should do some good and at least pull the plug on the goof Johnson. Too bad his old man didn’t roll over and shoot him out the window and get the alleycat knocked up.
Wherever you see anonymous there is always an issue. Notice how “bored anonymous” constantly makes comments for no other reason than to try and bully me.
Hey toots, you should try and do something worthwhile for once in your pathetic existence…instead of trolling here , there, and everywhere just to post intentionally mean comments, (and then crying like a pussy-boy whenever someone points out that you’re the bully)
…why don’t you grow a set already, you pathetic little effeminate prissy coward, and tell us all why you are constantly bullying a woman you claim you don’t even know.
You really are a fucking, pathetic little cowardly moron.
And a perv, too.
It seems you’re a little hysterical and overreacting here, Flowers. You’re not representing your gender very well. Bully here. Bully there. Bully everywhere. 🙂
Every time you look in the mirror there’s a bully looking back. If you play nicely with others then they will play nicely with you.
This is 8.
Anonymous, I’m insulted. I don’t need Flowers to create an issue. I can do it with virtually anybody, or nobody at all.
“Yes where ever you see flowers and Johnson there is always an issue. ”
flowers ans Johnson. Is that anything like Masters and Johnson?
No, it’s something like Johnson (President Trump) and Flowers (Elmer Fudd).
Orgasmic delight over being burned in the pubic region?
Maybe some did. You get orgasmic delight from the gerbil roaming around in your butt.
And all this time I thought it was your tongue. Go figure.
The only screaming to be heard was from orgasmic delight.
I have a feeling shadowperv wrote this bullshit and submitted it to Parlato to get him clicks.
You’re wrong. It’s new information, not the usual Shadow repetitive information.
Horseshit loser. Shadow is a sick person. He is not above making this crap u and sending it to Parlato under another name. You and shadowperv continue your coitus.
You don’t think Frank already posts enough of Shadow’s stories that he has to add a fake name to yet another story? Didn’t you hear Shadow is taking care of his 92 year old dad who just had a stroke (the dad, not Shadow, even though it seems as if it was Shadow)? How could he possibly have enough time in the day to write even more stories, with new content at that?
Wrong!
I’ve noticed that you’e posted several comments here each time as a different Batman supervillian.
Today you are The Minstrel, a character played by Van Johnson.
Yesterday you were Zelda the Magniicient,, a character played by Anne Baxter.
The day before you were Marsha Queen of Diamonds, a character played by Carolyn Jones.
Who are you?
Another NXIVM Flying Monkey?
It’s the ghost of Stan Lee.
Wrong numnut. You are the ex NXIVM cultist thrown out by Allie Wack for stalking and harassing her during your intensives. I see now that you not only jackoff to Smallville reruns but probably the old Batman reurns. Back in your day you probably attempted to stalk Julie Newmar and Yvonne Craig. Stuff it perv.
Screaming during any type of yoga practice is just not feasible. That’s pretty hilarious that this neighbour believed such a ridiculous story.
And even if this women was conducting some type of classes next door which did legitimately involve screaming during the practice- I would still call and report the dumbass neighbour to either the police or to bylaws for noise violations.
Most people don’t want to get involved. They usually look for an excuse not to get involved. When someone gives them one, it doesn’t matter how illogical it is, it is good enough to not get involved. Take for example MLM scams in general, people on this website will make up their own reason not to help others.
That depends, Scott. I do know people often will call to report noise complaints if their neighbors are loud and the noise is keeping them awake. So it would depend on how late it was, and how loud the noises were.
Flowers, it also depends on whether a NXIVM slut knocked on doors warning them of the screaming beforehand.
Or it’s not high on their list of threats or causes. Most people don’t get taken in by MLMs. Those that do can blame themselves. It’s like pregnancy, abstinence is 100% effective. Some people don’t like to hear it but it’s true all the same.
It should be high on thier list, because someone they know, a friend, relative, and/or neighbor, will get scammed if not forewarned. There are a LOT more people taken in by MLM scams than you may know, most are too embarassed to admit it. It’s like STDs, they spread when people don’t protect themselves AND others. Some people don’t like to hear it but it’s true all the same.
I thought the same thing. Knock on my door to say if you hear screaming today it’s just our exercise class. I’d call the police before I heard a scream, what a ridiculous story.
I call bullshit on this story. More boob bait for Bubba’s. I lived in Clifton Park in a similar development to Knox Woods. Same type of townhouse and maybe the same builder. The walls are paper thin
What’s your point? People were being warned they may hear screaming, and paper thin walls would make the warning more appropriate.
I said the story was bullshit. Pure bullshit…..can you read asshole. The point on your empty head is perfect for your dunce cap. Take a fucking hike loser.
As I expected, you have nothing to base your claim on. Take a f*cking hike loser.
Have they been charged with felony branding? The branding is practically irrelevant as far as what they are facing at trial. Geezus
The felony is the blackmail over the collateral.
True enough but do you notice everyone is flipping their shit over the branding. The branding isn’t the crime and that’s what most of these people are focused on
Not everyone. I’m not, and never have. I posted a link to this several times, and there’s never a comeback: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=omega+branding The point is the branding is not the big deal, it’s the blackmail/collateral.
I wasn’t talking about hearsay as it relates to a courtroom Shadow. But it proves my point, wanting to believe every piece of negative information said by anyone. It’s really funny
Not just believe it, but then turn around and use it as fact going forward.
They were screaming because they saw how small ShadowState’s dick was
Who in their right mind would hear screaming and believe it is okay because someone warned them they were going to hear it ??
Probably the same person who thought they were pretty and were offered a free NXIVM course.
Had to bypass another shadowstate article
I’d like to hear from a real yoga teacher about high intensity yoga.
I’m surprised if several neighbors were told this they didn’t come forward, it would be interesting if it was verified.
Why not just google it, genius? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q80RkFV3fHE
Fuck off scott
Go back to your hole in the ground, Anne. LOL
This is the type of thing certain posters will start citing as fact. Third party hearsay. A friend of a friend told me. My issue isn’t with the article written by Frank it is with the people that take it as gospel and constantly refer to it in their post. It’s like Sarah Edmondson’s claims being attributed to all the other idiots that signed up. For all we know what they were told and / or experienced might be different.
The young woman who warned the neighbor of screaming is an unindicted co-conspirator.
Under conspiracy law hearsay by a co-conspirator is admissible.
(d) Statements That Are Not Hearsay.
(E) was made by the party’s co-conspirator during and in furtherance of the conspiracy.
Ms. Mack is charged with conspiracy to commit sex trafficking.
Branding he women is part of the sex trafficking.
Branding he women marks them as property.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rule_801
AUSA Penza is a graduate of Cornell Law School.
She knows all about Rule 801 and what is and is not hearsay.
This is NOT hearsay.
This is hearsay. Read the first sentence of the story again.
What did you expect? Most people commenting here are stupid beyond belief.
I advise this neighbor to tell her story to the FBI if she has not done already.
Allison’s next movie will be titled “Allison Mack’s House of Horrors.”
It sounds like something Edgar Allan Poe would have written and Vincent Price would have starred in.
Thank you for yet again another insightful comment, Captain Obvious.
well I lived next to Alison Mack grenadier ct knoxwoids for 4 years I never heard any screaming the only thing I heard she sang a lot one night 3 years ago it as 1 in the morning she had a band a lot of people I was upset because I had to go to work the plus theses was women there in morning they parked in back so I saw that plus Keith coming out of her place sometimes 6 in morning so if anyone works hear evening it would be me ne heard screaming
I think Linda is right , as a close neighbor you have written many verifiable stories about Nxivm. Although there had to have been real screaming during the branding and I do wonder how they pulled that off, don’t you? There’s no way you can be cauterized and not cry out unless you were gagged. Maybe they should do some practice tests on Allison’s homes to see what sound would be heard by neighbors because real people were definitely branded.
I agree because as I told everyone I never heard anyvscreamm I lived right next to her on grenadier all I heard her singing and load of women coming and going
Well that proves absolutely NOTHING.
I think Sarah Edmondson exaggerated how painful the experience was. In one interview she said it took 20 mins and in another she said it took 40. If it was really the worst experience of her life, wouldn’t you think she could remember how long it took?
Sarah Edmondson is a fake, lying, manipulative attention seeker. She is a criminal who knowingly, happily and willingly profited from bad things, knew about all the bad things and then didn’t like it when she was on the receiving end of NXIVM bullshit herself. I have zero sympathy for her. There are real victims in the world. She is not one of them.
My theory is that the branding actually wasn’t as painful as she describes. If it was really “worse than childbirth”, would 50 to 100 women really have done this? Not to mention that some tattoo parlors do branding as well. I saw a video years ago with a women getting a design branded on her leg and she was busy texting on her phone while it was going on.
I think what happened is Edmondson was fine with being branded and being part of DOS until she realized that the branding was Keith’s initials, and not the 4 shakras or whatever. Then she came up with how it was the worst experience of her life in order to be taken seriously by police. On one of her interviews she even admitted to feeling proud of herself right after the ceremony, and only later being angry.
Again this matter upsets me because I bought my condo 18 years and never never had anything like this until she moved in I never liked her not one of the nicest neighbors to have she never spoke my family was here and all this was going on i don’t think I’ll ever get over this living this close to her and Keith he was on my property shoveling snow if I knew of this I would of never had him he was so kind to me telling me he would protect me if I needed him yikes
She should not be taken seriously. She got branded in March 2017, pinned down other women to get branded and even filmed it. She said she saw a text message from Keith Raniere on the phone she was filming with while the brandings were taking place. Then, she leaves two fucking months later. Now she pretends to be the naive innocent heroine. The worse thing is all the morons kissing her four decades old ass. Enablers piss me off to the core.
My theory is that the branding actually wasn’t as painful as she describes.
Let’s brand you without pain killers, tough guy.
Has anyone seen the picture of Sarah in between Barbara J.and Emiliano with her purple stripped scarf on??
Speaks volumes to me!
And wasn’t there a picture of cowardly Kristin Crook wearing her shitty sash on some NXIVM documentary?
Oh but you must believe everything she says because she’s on “our side”!
Like I said I’m skeptical and wouldn’t trust any of them. They’re all dirty to some degree.
I noticed that too!
Exactly
I’ve heard her say, in interviews, some brandings took 40 minutes the night she was marked but her’s only took 20. She had learned, by watching those done before her, it took longer if the person moved so she was completely still and it didn’t take as long. She said she wanted to show them she could do it with no complaint.
Max, what are your sources for that claim?
Not sure which claim you mean. Regarding branding with a cauterizing pen not necessarily being painful, I’m only saying that because various tattoo places have been doing it for years.
From 2015:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/the-new-tattoo-is-body-branding-legal-44690
I meant the 20 vs. 40 minute cauterizing timeframe.
If you mean about Edmondson, she got interviewed by Elizabeth Vargas
@Max , I would.
Linda, take a breath. There are things called sentences and periods. Use them. Thanks.
Scott, hold your breath. There are things called psychiatrists and anti-psychotic meds. Use them. Thanks.