By Susan Dones
Frank, the Kristin Kreuk story line is getting old and where is your PROOF?
Frank, you have been accused of several serious crimes that if you don’t cut a deal with the FEDS, you are going to trial within the next six months. Don’t you want the FEDS to prove their case against you? Is speculation enough for them to convict you?
This Kristin Kreuk story line is the makings of a HALLOWEEN STORY because Frank, you are on a WITCH HUNT.
Stories like this are an attempt to SHIFT the blame onto people who were never involved in NXIVM’s criminal organization and takes the focus off those who are involved. Reporting in this type of manner is a classic NXIVM strategy and one of the publications referred to as Rag magazines.
Frank, you have been told by several Ex-NXIVM members that the theory you are attempting to prove never happened. It’s this kind of behavior that Ex-NXIVM members have stopped talking with you sharing information or even coming to the Frank Report. Frank, you continue to accuse innocent people of wrongdoing. There are many who have, so why not focus on them?
Frank, where is your proof that this woman, her friends in the story (other than Allison Mack) and Girls by Design ever recruited young girls into NXIVM? You have shown none.
Where is the proof (except Allison Mack) that they were involved in any illegal/immoral activities with NXIVM’s illegal enterprise?
Frank, you and your co-conspirators (most likely NXIVM trolls) are stringing some facts together in an ATTEMPT to make up something that you have not shown any proof happened.
SO, FRANK, WHERE’S IS YOUR PROOF and what is your beef with the woman?
I think you write about this woman, and your fictional story about her intent, because it gets you the most clicks on your blog. This storyline also gets you a lot of comments, but it’s mostly just people who are having arguments. Is this the motive behind you posting about this woman and this storyline?
Hanging on to this kind of story is why most EX-NX ’s have stopped talking with you. Now, you’re stuck with NXIVM trolls to give you (mis)information.
If you have real proof that GBD was recruiting young girls into NXIVM, show your proof or move on. Where are the enrollments? Where are the outraged parents saying this woman enrolled her child into being a sex-slave to Raniere?
Here are the facts as known:
• Was she in NXIVM? – yes, we all know that to be true
• Were all the people in the story a part of NXIVM? – yes, that is known to be true
• Was GBD a NXIVM plot to bring in young girls? – This you have not proved EVER
• GBD was in the making before any of these women took a NXIVM course – that is a fact
Did NXIVM attempt to take advantage of this woman for recruitment?- yes.
• Fact is, NXIVM tried to use everyone who walked through their doors to recruit people. NXIVM had an ‘enroll three people’ into the same course and get yours free, or within three months; you’d get a refund of the price you paid. This was only for the 5 or 16 day course. If a person thought the course was good for them, of course, they would tell their friends.
• Fact is, people could become salespeople for NXIVM enrollments and make money enrolling others.
• Fact is, most people never saw or were part of the NXIVM criminal enterprise.
People like myself, and Kristin Kreuk, thought we were in a training program that improved lives.’
• Fact is, the training did improve people’s lives, The 16-day course helped me. I have people who even now tell me they were glad they took the basic training. Why do you think people stuck around? It wasn’t to be part of a criminal enterprise; we saw improvements in our lives and those that took the basic coursework.
• Fact is, the Cult aspect of NXIVM and the criminal/immoral enterprise was very well hidden and protected by Raniere and his inner circle. Raniere is a mastermind at hiding his illegal/immoral behavior.
Is she famous? – You have to define famous. To this day, I don’t see her on any of the actors’ magazines or TV show interviewing like many of whom I would call a famous actor doing. During her time with NXIVM, only those who watched Smallville knew of her as an actor before NXIVM made a big deal about it.
NXIVM was good at making certain people “a big deal.” Is she to blame for doing horrible things because she is an actor? –no.
NXIVM made many people a “big deal” — actors, certain business people, those with positions in government, ex-president’s sons, daughters – people like the Bronfman sisters and anyone they could use as a showcase.
Isn’t this what all companies that depend on sales do to enhance their income streams? You do it all the time with how many people come to your blog and from what countries. You even say things such as “as a highly reliable individual, who has provided me with” this information.
Frank, you did it in this storyline with “Here are some comments and links sent by a reader, followed by my thoughts on the topic.” You even call her the “most famous member.” Well, that’s just your opinion, and a way to sensationalize your theory in an attempt to SELL it to your readers.
Enrollment in itself isn’t illegal or immoral when you think you’re enrolling for a training course. What Allison Mack, Lauren/Nancy Salzman, Keith Raniere, Clare Bronfman and some others were enrolling into was much different than taking or supporting what you think is a good self-help program.
What media outlet reports on her besides THE FRANK REPORT? Frank, you are the one pointing to a PLOT you have not proven nor have you given us any factual proof to back up your story. Is it too bad not all your readers understand the facts you string together don’t make this woman into the person you keep accusing her of being.
There were over 7,500 people who took NXIVM related course. Were they all involved with criminal activities?
• Fact – No
If she was involved in something shady, don’t you think NXIVM would have held that over her head as collateral so she couldn’t leave? It’s how they entrapped their goons in the first place. They are attempting to get this kind of collateral over anyone and were doing it long before DOS. NXIVM encouraged people to not pay your taxes, bring some cash across the border, hack into people’s computers. Not everyone became a goon for them. Once NXIVM had their collateral, they had them hooked, and they could never leave.
I left when I found out about Keith Raniere’s crimes and immoral behavior. Raniere was sleeping with multiple women, and he and his gal pals had the plot to manipulate women into doing this. NXIVM Criminal Enterprise (NCE) was not paying taxes and was trying to get others not to pay theirs. NCE brought large amounts of cash across the Mexican border and not claiming it as income. What do you do with that much cash? – you have to launder it. At the time I left, DOS wasn’t happening.
When I left in 2009, I shut my center down, told as many people who would listen to me about what I found out, and talked to the authorities. What did that get me? I got sued by NXIVM, the authorities did nothing, and NXIVM held communities’ meetings attempting to hatch the same kind of plot you’re doing with this woman.
NXIVM got a certain amount of people to believe that I was a bad person and was lying about what I found out. They shifted the blame to me in order to make themselves look good. Frank, you used the same game theory NXIVM is using by trying to make it look as if this woman has done something bad. She is not obligated to say anything other than what she has said. Knowing what NXIVM was doing with people who left and spoke out about them, I don’t blame her for not saying anything, if she did know anything.
Because so many people who were actually a part of NXIVM no longer talk with you, one has to wonder if your being fed information from NXIVM trolls? Do you keep repeating this storyline for clicks on your blog? To date, you have not shown any proof this woman is guilty of anything other than being a part of a program she thought was a good thing.
Those who stayed with NXIVM after things were exposed, bought NXIVM’s stories about how it was other people attempting to harm NXIVM and what they were saying was lies.
Frank, you are attempting the same game by stringing some facts together and make it a reality. The fact you are putting your facts into a YAHTZEE CUP, shaking it up and pouring out a story does not make it REALITY; This story line is old and is just plain fiction.
A journalist would not write such a story without “fact checking” their story with people who know the REAL FACTS.
Frank, you not acting like a real journalist, too many people have told you what your attempting to put together is not REALITY.
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Going back to the top. Yes to many anons are under the same avatar. It was not intentional as people were moved off the blog and Frank was able to identify those using multiple accts it changed something. I will go back to my original name my dilemma is I have to do it every post but that’s cool.
SOS you are getting out of hand and hopefully will be removed as others have had to be. Most normal posters are sick of your disgusting posts.
There can never be too many anons. The more anons the better. We need to import more illegal anons from foreign countries. Give me your poor, tired, anons.
Rise like Anons, after slumber, in unvanquishable number… :))
We the anon are always in the majority, we are the eyes and ears of the majority, those of you with only one wing fear us, we cook your food, clean and make your clothes, houses, streets and malls, run your sewage system, drive your trains planes and buses, spend more time with your kids and elders than you do, we paint your nails, style your hair, tell you when to cross the road, tell you where to park and for how long, we wipe your asses and fix you when your too sick to take care of yourselves, you think you’re somebody but without us you are nothing. We are legion, you are too few to mention.
My posts are getting out of hand? Don’t make me laugh. You don’t know anything about normal. I’ve written posts with rational argumentation to be responded with insults. Frank has allowed a forum for online bullying via bigoted mockery and insults because he knows what generates the clicks and hence advertising revenue. Unfortunately, it will be the site’s downfall. But it will generate the necessary money for his trial.
What people are asking for is not a confession. If she is not guilty great. She has made herself look bad by not stepping forward and sharing what she does know. There is no Nxivm left to come after her, now is the time to give an in-depth truth of her involvement. Even you are saying she’s innocent without proof. Innocent or guilty until she steps forward it won’t stop, just as you wrote Frank with your perception so have others. Kristin was in long after you left. I hope she not guilty of nefarious activity. But she played the game for a long time and did attempt to lure college students using her limited fame, but fame nonetheless. Tell her to get a trustworthy reporter and share her story, she’s an actress who can’t keep hiding out.
What it looks like is she is waiting to see what comes out about her then she can create a story that fits. JMO
If Kreuk was innocent of any wrongdoing, illegal or not, she wouldn’t have to wait until post trial to see how she can manipulate things in her favour. That immediately looks shady. She already publicly lied about cutting the cord in 2013. Will she lie, again?
Manipulation, now there’s a good, solid American attribute. Let us prey.
wittiest response yet. Let us Prey. Indeed.
Fact is Susan you don’t know what you’re talking about.
You seem to be the only “source” that Kreuk was still involved in NXIVM in 2016.
Please share your info…what involvement did she have…and how do you know.?
Hey, let’s not mess up this interesting discussion with any facts. You sound like Scotty Amway, I can see you being banned in the near future. What’s next, you’ll want to know her real name?
Dont get excited. She once had a vague run in with Mack, thats it. She was never in NXIVM. She’s actually a white supremicist poet. removed the incriminating evidence from her site, though its not hard to find if you look for it.
Where is this so called evidence? that is not hard to look for. There is one piece of evidence that people can look for online that can be called evidence. and I hardly call it evidence at all and it was not from 2016 it was from 2017 and were “Pictures” from an event taken in New York where none of NXVIM attended. They were non-existant.
What the fuck are you talking about? Why are you bringing up New York? What is this one piece of evidence people can look for online?
Kristin was at the “International Emmy Awards” in 2017. This is hardly evidence that she was still mixing it up with people from NXVIM. She took several “Pictures” at the event. My point was that Ionwhitepoetry as no proof of anything. I wondered when she mentioned 2016 of she was talking about 2017 when she attended that event. The reason is simply I am certain that the international Emmy Awards were held in New York. It coincides with he statement that she kept minimal contact with people in NXVIM as I am not really certain she communicated with anyone there. AS I said there are “pictures”.
Who took pictures? You mean the official paparazzi red carpet pictures or pictures Kreuk took herself?
paparazzi red carpet pictures. not too hard to see what I was talking about. Trying to dig into something deeper… than there is? Trying to see if she indeed was with those people? even if she did communicate with them before that event it means nothing. “Minimal Contact” was established. Yes there are “Pictures” Specifically the RED CARPET pictures show she was at the international emmy awards. Please try not to be “Shallow” with the information. LAWL.
I would like to know this imformation too Ionwhitepoetry because she had limited/minimal contact with people she already knew and had already left. PERIOD. depends what minimal contact means I guess. but none the less. I want to know your “source’ to her being around the harem in 2016. because it is not to hard to look up when Kristin Kreuk was around people or in the public eye including in New York! and 2016 does not fit. There are even “Pictures”.
Details?
It’s hard to believe that Susan Dones who won her court case against NVXIM would support somebody that would not acknowledge her real connection to NVXIM. Maybe she is telling the truth that she knows nothing but how you can be sure. I don’t think she even cares about you. You are courageous to expose NVXIM so if I were you, I would stand with those who are brave enough to admit their mistakes.
Agreed. If I were part of a group, discovered it was bad, left them, exposed them and they tried to ruin me, anyone who continued on with the group as if everything was cool would be my enemy. Toni Natalie reached out to cowardly Mark Vicente. He ignored her.
So what is Toni doing about Mark? Is that how she goes after her enemies, by ignoring them back?
What are you talking about?
Have you read Toni’s public letter to Mark “not a whistleblower” Vicente? He didn’t give a shit. What do you mean “ignoring them back”?
Where is Toni’s public letter? Does Toni think she can just write a single letter and her task is done?
https://frankreport.com/2018/03/21/the-tale-of-two-cities-one-of-keiths-favorites/
This public letter. Mark Vicente continued on in NXIVM not caring at all.
I’d personally appreciate fewer speculative articles based on very little, no more rehashed old stories, and more actual NEWS. The former two are making the blog look small-time, petty and sleazy. And that’s before we get to the comments section.
There’s enough out there to exonerate Kristin Kreuk. The only thing that could potentially be seen as damning is her presence on Necker Island, but even that’s circumstantial. She was probably invited along as ‘starpower’, nothing more. Doesn’t mean she was privy to the machinations of the inner circle.
“She was probably invited along as ‘starpower’, nothing more.”
Wrong. It was supposed to be SECRET. John Tigue did not keep it that way. Read the article by Tigue properly. Also, being named in a criminal lawsuit is not good.
— It was supposed to be SECRET.
It’s NOT a public organization. It’s a TINY private company. Who the fuck are they going out of their way to keep it secret from? What are they supposed to do? Hold a press conference in front of the media? Have a press release? ROFL.
It was a private company event. That doesn’t mean it was a SECRET.
Gawd some people are so dumb.
“None of the participants at these meetings wanted their attendance to become public knowledge but, in all three cases they did and in all three there was a lot more going on than just a little socializing by old friends.”
That’s a claim WITHOUT ANY PROOF.
Nada. Zilch. Zero. If they didn’t want it to become public, why did they take so many pictures? Why are there personal videos from the event? How come I knew about it over five years ago?
You’re a fucking retard.
If they are so open, where are all of the videos and pictures?
Those were private pictures that were leaked and you only know about it because John Tigue exposed it. You are desperate to roll a turd in glitter. Just stop. Think of all the money you would save if you stopped bulk buying all that vasalene.
No shit they were private. There is a difference between PRIVATE and SECRET you moron. Just because something is private doesn’t mean people want to keep it a secret. There are plenty of private parties and events where pictures taken there are released and shown to people who weren’t there. All companies hold PRIVATE meetings or events that are open only to employees you ignoramus.
Of course, sitting at home and having your wife bring in all the dough makes you unaware of this reality.
More failure. More spanking. More excuses. Blinded by your obsession. Allah would be jealous of your infatuation for Kristin Kook. You sugar coat and white knight a cult member who will never let you slip her out of the hijab she does not wear.
Fuck off. It’s not my problem you’re too stupid to understand nuance you sociopath. If I’m blinded by obsession it’s rooted in something good while you’re blinded by hatred which is far worse. You’re nothing but a LIFE TROLL.
To: The Brown Knight Beetlespanker – that was hilarious, keep it going!
SOS, you top the list
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Now we know how to spell vaseline, thanks. I can use some while I think about Mack’s cankles….
In what way was Necker Island secret?
That it was invite only and not open to every ESPian doesn’t make it secret.
That it wasn’t open to the press doesn’t make it secret.
That it wasn’t publicized before or after doesn’t make it secret.
But by you keep saying it was SECRET is just you trying to make it more nefarious.
People don’t pose for hundreds of photos at a company gathering they are trying to keep secret.
Go away SultanOfSpank. At least change your tone when pretending to be someone else.
Sorry, not me dumb shit. But someone who obviously has an intellect unlike you Mr. Projection, “Piss of spanker, no one cares what you say”.
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Your wit could fit in that jar and still leave room for 100 grams of Vaseline.
And no, I’m not Sultan…doesn’t you obsession with him bother you? It should.
Is there any proof that there actually was any money laundering talk on Necker Island, or just speculation?
It’s possible the Necker meeting and Kreuk’s/Mack’s presence there was about NXIVM showing its best “face”. As in, “look, we’re totally legit, we even have TV stars!” Making it less, not more, likely that any jiggery-pokery would be going on. Weren’t they trying to woo Sir Richard Branson at the time?
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Please, all you Anonymous posters:
Could you post under some screen name. Any name will do.
It does not reveal your true ID, but it is makes it easier for the readers to sort out who is posting what, and easier to reply to a specific Anonymous poster.
Scotty Amway tried to get people to agree with you on that idea, but nobody did. Where were you when he was campaigning for that idea? Now it’s too late, the Great Frank has spoken. Anybody can call themselves whatever they want. I’m just glad my parents named me Anonymous.
No shit?!!! Me Too!!!
She has been named, which means accused. The case has never made it anywhere. And even if you are named in a case it could have been for some different offense.
They are simply not part of the current case and probably will never be.
You are very well informed. Are you from the FBI or DOJ?
Well this was a breath of fresh air!
And honestly, who in the world is still slinging this crap about GBD being a recruitment for NXIVM??? I can tell you for a FACT it had absolutely nothing to do with NXIVM!
Go away Sultan.
Have you chosen to be “Jesse” today SultanOfSix? Why not “Scarrom” or one of your many other aliases?
No you dumb shit. Jesse is obviously a KK fan and she also participated in Girls By Design. But you are too dumb to notice the difference because you’re too busy projecting what you do onto everyone else. Except you hate on Kristin because you’re pathetic stalking loser.
You would of cut off your left nut to be in Girls By Design you old stalker creep.
You’re the stalker you projecting loser. After all, you’re a NXIVM troll and the entire game of your master was to stalk women and prey upon them.
You are not being stalked you stalker. You are the one projecting by being a stalker accusing others of stalking and I am not and have never been a NXIVM member. Go away Jesse.
Keep talking yourself into circles.
This is a great discussion. Keep it up…PLEASE.
Jesse, why should we just believe your claim?
Ya know how when you’re just be-boppin through life and something reminds you of all the problems in the world….and then you go be-boppin until the next time, the problems still there, fuzzy and vague
For some, this blog highlights; brings to the forefront the issues of the present time. They are clear.
I don’t understand why Susan is setting herself up be fodder for the toxicity around here. Many questions surrounding the situation may never be answered. We all have justice in our lives one way or another.
https://frankreport.com/2018/10/16/guest-view-what-did-you-know-after-you-left-some-pointed-questions-for-susan-dones-about-kristin-kreuk-and-allison-mack/
I like Susan posting here, she is a great conversation starter.
Mr. Parlato, the work you have been doing exposing this twisted cult has been nothing short of excellent. If not for you the situation NXIVM is in would be a lot different and I mean a lot. You’ve fought the good fight despite all the crap they tried to put you through. Don’t let an angry letter try to downplay what you’ve done. Great work and thank you.
That said I think that if Kreuk was a part of any fishy goings on while she was in the cult its eventually going to come out in court. The only thing I do know for certain is that she did indeed shill for the cult at one time. I’ve seen the video of her, Mack and Clyne. Its on YouTube for all to see. Though on a personal note, I think that Kreuk’s silence on the subject speaks volumes in and of itself. Like she is definitely worried about something. And/or they, may in fact have collateral on her that is keeping her quiet.
I won’t go so far as to say Frank is in league with the NXIVM trolls.
Frank has suffered far too much at the hands of NXIVM to make common cause with them.
But I believe the Kristen Kreuk angle is a red herring.
It is clear that Kreuk eased herself out of the cult around 2012.
According to Pea it was done at the behest of Kreuk’s father who did what any normal father would do and protect his child.
Kreuk’s “dad was a rotten fink and someone should look into how her dad spoiled it for KK.:
On the other hand according to Pea, “Allison’s dad was almost one of us. Her mom is a peach.”
https://frankreport.com/2018/10/15/reader-kristin-kreuks-girls-by-design-was-absolutely-nxivm/
Kreuk was not involved in the worst aspects of NXIVM like DOS
Focusing on Kreuk draws attention away from the far worse crimes of Raniere, Cruella Bronfman and Mack.
“It is clear that Kreuk eased herself out of the cult around 2012.”
How many more times shadowstate? Kreuk herself says 2013, not 2012. Yet others know she was still around in 2015 and beyond.
No she wasn’t. Who the heck told you that?
and who are you “Jesse”?
I heard from a solid source that KK visited Raniere in jail. That brings her involvement to 2018. Please don’t tell anybody that my parents named me Anonymous, or my cover will be blown.
No he is correct in 2012 Kristin started distancing herself from the cult. It was not something that started or that was thought of in 2013. It is clear it started there and the source may not have been her dad it could have been other stuff. DO not forget the 2012 article. She because she is “Silent does not mean she did not leave for a reason.
Who are you and what do you know? You are probably that cyber stalker. She definitely did not cut the NXIVM cord in 2013 and definitely did not get influenced by the Times Union expose as least three years later, she was still pro-NXIVM.
seems you are wrong again. I explained this multiple times in the past.
A well placed source told me that KK is the one who branded Mack. She thought she was supposed to put Mack’s initials on her instead of Raniere’s. Kind of like a nametag. She’s not the brightest light on the string.
JUST because she is “Silent” does not mean she did not leave for a reason. It is blatantly obvious she sensed something off and left.
Go away SultanOfSix.
wrong you are, sir.
I was thinking about writing a post on the basis of the speach of Marc Anthony from the play Julius Caesar saying we should trust Frank with this as he is an honorable man, but I won’t. Most readers would not get it.
I am with Susan Dones here, as these allegations have been out for years on this blog. Look for yourself and go through the history of this blog and see it for yourself. All of these posts reply on three or four allegations, which were warmed up with a few newish comments from the same users. Even after years there is not one piece of information, which connects her to any of the criminal activities of the group. Being stupid and young is not a criminal offense and being used is not either.
The only difference between her and the other actors and actresses is the fact that there are people around here, who care about her and start a fight within the comment section. Grace Park, Nicki Clyne and Allison Mack are simply not interesting enough to the general public. This is why the other actress who has a well going career (at least from my point of view) is being left alone.
So Frank, please fill us in what. What is so special about Kristin Kreuk? What do the other actresses not have?
She’s the prettiest. That’s the best reason to go after her.
Allison Mack and Nicki Clyne are still in NXIVM. They are being spoken about. Mark Hildreth is not when he should be. Grace Park too. Kreuk is being discussed because she is clearly hiding and makes her look suspicious. There are questions she does not want to answer. Of all the people who know her name, how many know about her name in the Joe O’Hara lawsuit? Probably not many and she wants to keep it that way. Lets see how long she can keep that up.
Are Mark or Grace in the public eye like KK is, with her new show? She’s still the prettiest, that alone is a good enough reason to focus on her and Mack’s cankles. After all, we can only focus on so many things at the same time.
With her Eurasian heritage Kristen Kreuk looks exotic.
The other actresses are all European or Asian (Grace Park).
Actually, Kreuk has never been held to account by the media or the authorities why she was named in a criminal lawsuit. If she discussed money laundering on Necker Island. Why she stayed with the cult after being named in the same expose that revealed her beloved Raniere was a pedophile. If she had sex with Raniere. If she recruited others who had sex with Raniere. Why she did not bring up NXIVM when promoting the College Project, Juicy Peach and GBD.
Frank ‘s blog is the only one holding her to account. Perhaps eventually, the press will follow suite and Kreuk wont be able to hide. She already has lied about leaving in 2013. Many know she did not give up on NXIVM in 2013.
Have the authorities even spoken to her? Will they? Will she be honest or lie? And of course, both illegal and non illegal but unethical things should be exposed.
Which of the accused points does she have to answer for? Which of them are not just allegations and which of them are even crimes?
talking about money laundering:
You can talk about it all day long. It is not illegal to do so as long as you do not actually set plans in motion. Do we know of any money laundering she did? Just one case?
staying in a cult after the leader being accused:
How many billion Christians are there in this world? There are quite a few rapists and pedophiles among the priests. Do you accuse everyone who goes to Church on a Sunday and donates some money? They are supporting and financing a morally corrupt organization after all
sex with Raniere:
She can have sex with whoever she likes how often she likes as long as this person/these persons is/are of legal age. They both were back then. Case closed.
Recruiting/Matchmaking is legal as well as long as his partners were not forced. There has not been a single rape accusation in which Kreuk was named. Not one.
Try harder.
Does Allison Mack have to answer for the O’Hara/Necker info?
If any of the recent activities were connected to O’hara/Necker she would be lawyered up and maybe on house arrest as well. Some of the big names are, even Canadians.
This is about something else than having a fun WE on a private island drinking wine.
It is about branding, forced labor, tax evasion and whatnot. Kreuk’s name is not on any of that at the moment. Mack’s on the other hand seems to be, which is why she is under arrest and needed a $ 5M bail.
Or maybe she was just smarter and did not get caught. But still, you do not end in jail for committing a crime but for getting caught after all.
The court will see plenty of evidence taken during the raids. Stand by….
The lawsuit filed by O’Hara relates to the same subject matter as the current investigation: money laundering, tax evasion etc. Look at the names in that lawsuit. Salinas, Benecourt etc. All those named individuals should be investigated as part of the current case.
She may have been named in that 2012 lawsuit because she is a celebrity. and the guy who wrote it was also speaking or encountered tigue the Saratoga in decline blogger… yeah that can be the case. Jesus no wonder she is staying silent….. I would have done the same thing too.
Did this happen? A sleepover for young girls? This is the fifth attempt at posting… keeps disappearing.
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*Please submit your project in either a collage, painting, writing, video, musical c.d., or other multi-media format.’
To Enter go to http://www.timeoutretreat.com
Here is the video, maybe why the original msg wouldn’t post. In this KK says the age limit is from “..around 12 to 18..”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKfNiMweMqY
Girls By Design Time Out Retreat for Teens
the youtube link won’t post so look it up if interested, its called:
Girls By Design Time Out Retreat for Teens
Did this happen? A sleepover for young girls? This is the second attempt at posting – keeps disappearing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKfNiMweMqY
‘Time out retreat for teens is an overnight holistic retreat for teen girls where they will have the opportunity to attend rotations designed to empower them to have access to tools to achieve balance in their lives.
There will be an evening event introducing young female celebrities who will attend as speakers for the evening as well as mentors. Retreat is opened to all girls aged 13-17 in the Los Angeles area. Transportation, food and lodging is free thanks to the generous donation of Warner Springs Ranch (www.warnersprings.com) and Kristin Kreuk. To be selected to attend, follow the directions below.
Answer the following question:
What do you want the world to look like in your lifetime? Send us a project that best expresses your vision of how you can contribute to make the world closer to that vision.
*Please submit your project in either a collage, painting, writing, video, musical c.d., or other multi-media format.’
To Enter go to http://www.timeoutretreat.com
newsflash all you dysfunctional bossy arses who think you run the world – this guy frank who runs this blog can do whatever he wants for whatever reasons he wants and doesn’t need any of you to say otherwise. and personally this article by this freak susan chick makes me suspect this Kristen Kook chick EVEN MORE – she looks guilty sounds guilty and there is no doubt in my vibe-o-meter shes dirty as HELL so im 100% here for the witch hunt hahahah. KK i hope you go down smug ho
The only thing that’s dirty as hell is your underwear.
Been in his underwear, have you?
That’s a good one. Keep it going.
Material about Kristin Kreuk I can’t find anymore : –
1-she attended at least one V-Week : There was at least one picture of her with Mark Vincente (Vicente ?) and his wife along with Mark Hildreth
2-there was a testimony from a Time Out retreat attendee that was about lost car keys and potato chips
Nothing weird, just disappointing stories they are far from the orgy and teen/preteen sexploitation fantaisies… Just real world stuff…
I am no one to comment about her, but I think that we won’t find anything outrageous nor gruesome, it’s time for landing.
And in the very theoretical hypothesis that Ms Kreuk would read those lines, please put a end to all those speculations 🙏
To Don’t Listen to Her Frank,
You make some assumptions in your post that are not based on any factual knowledge and it appears that you are not follow logic. However, I could just being emotional LOL.
Your statement – but in the next breath she’ll be the first person to slam people like Donald Trump for “collusion” with Russia and the Pee Pee Dossier without any smoking gun to prove it. When did you become an expert on me and can you show any examples of post I’ve done on DT or PPD?
Your statement – She’ll be the first person to poke fun of Melania for personal things like her wardrobe, yet she’ll act outraged when you do that to any of her ex-NXIVM pals like Bouchey, Toni Natalie, herself, Keeffe or Kreuk. Again can you show post of me making fun of Melania or outrage about post with who you think I’m pals with? I’m just tired of Frank accusing someone with no proof to back up what Frank is attempting to prove.
Put up or shut up is not outrage, it’s just asking for facts that add up to what Frank is attempting to say KK has done. If he can prove it, I’d be the first to admit I was wrong about her.
What is it I’m dishing out but not taking? Are you just typing to hear yourself think or do you know something about me, that I don’t. If so please enlighten me.
How is expressing an opinion, which the comment section is for, an attempt to “silence a particular point of view”. How is having a different point of view and asking for proof of wrongdoing a bad thing? I’m not getting your point but do respect that you have a right to have one.
Frank sent me a text asking me if I would be alright if he used my comment as a post as he thinks it’s a good thing to get different points of view. I agreed knowing I’d get crackpots taking pot shots at me. I don’t think your a crackpot or taking pot shots, you disagree with me, which is OK with me. I just don’t agree with your arguments.
There is nothing that a poster can dish out that I can take except a bullet. I don’t have super powers and I’m not that speedy. I might not agree with their point of view but I also know troll posters can be brutal and mean spirited. I’m a sticks and stones kind of gal and crackpot posters don’t hurt my feelings.
So you’re saying because CNN runs fake news, you believe it makes it OK for Frank to continue to do stories on Ex-members without facts that back up the point he is trying to make? Because you believe he is doing a better job than CNN, you makes it OK to drag KK through the mud without evidence to back it up she was doing bad things while in NXIVM. I’m sure that is not how he wants his case with the FEDS to go and maybe he might want to take a look at what he is dishing on someone who hasn’t even been arrested. It’s alright for him to say this person is guilty with no proof but I’m sure that is not how he wants to be treated by the FEDS or a jury in his own case.
Your making comments that contradict yourself, do you realize that?
**Every news network reported the Pee Pee Dossier as though it was fact, yet it was shown to be fiction without any shred of proof anyplace (just a bunch of references to mysterious strangers who heard about a video that never existed, LOL).
**Look at what Carl Bernstein got caught doing by having his Trump Tower story *totally debunked*, yet he’s the gold standard for many old school journalists, LOL.
LOL yourself, it sound like were are in agreement that Fake News is not a good thing.
To date after 135 posting about KK Frank has provided no, what do you call it. Ah yes “Sherd of Evidence” of any wrongdoing on his reporting of her. Right now its like Blah Blah Blah, she’s did it. I’m tired of all the Blah Blah Blah. So far every post Frank has done pointing to KK being guilty is reported as fact, yet so far is just fiction without any shread of proof.
What the hell do you think I’m asking Frank for? You want it both ways in your arguments on Fake New and your not being logical with your arguments. Can you not see you are speaking out of both sides of your mouth when you say I’m wrong about my post but show examples of how it’s wrong to write Fake News? What is up with that?
Don’t listen, were you in NXIVM? If so you know they would send trolls to the Frank Report to disrupt the blog. Frank even knows this. Posters can disagree as much as they like with any poster including me. It would be nice if they had something dealing with NXIVM to say instead of all the fighting that goes on when one disagrees.
If so inclined, I will post my thoughts about their comments/posts. Sometimes I will put my name on my post, other times I won’t. It’s a free country last I checked.
I don’t think you should be banned, only those who have nothing to say or what they type is just plain mean. Scott is the only one I talked with Frank who I thought should be banned due to his being an A hole in his comments and towards other posters. I asked for months and Frank tried several time to clam Scott down. Scott shot himself in the foot even with Frank giving him a lot of latitude and changes. I don’t think he was banned either, I think he was told he could not continue to do the posting he was doing.
A Scott A Hole free zone is so nice but I also know he might show up as another poster. Hopefully he has learned that you can only push Frank so far.
I’m not sure why your bring Hillary or Bill Clinton into your comment. Maybe I’m just too stupid to get it or you just typing to get your thoughts out that have nothing to do with this post or any argument you are making.
All I’ve asked Frank to do is provide factual information that proves any wrongdoing KK has done. Putting certain facts into a blender and pouring out a story that so far Frank cannot prove is true over and over again is just blowing hot air, in my opinion that is.
Don’t listen, it’s is not OK to disagree with Frank or other posters as long as it’s on topic and not just plane mean and stupid? Hum.. isn’t your post a double standard? It’s ok to post hot air and not prove a point, which you say the media should but it’s not OK for me to ask for proof and put it out there that personally I’m sick of the wind?
Frank won’t be silenced by me asking for proof or will he continue by your support. Frank is his own man and this is his blog. He can do what he wants. He is losing support from Ex-members and nailing the coffin on his sources who were in NXIVM. I don’t believe to continually bashing KK is in his best interest unless he’s just going for number of comments. A lot of Ex’s have stopped talking with Frank or coming to the blog over his treatment of people who left and did not harm others.
It doesn’t take someone of Keith Raniere intelligence to see Frank seems to be doing a lot of posting about someone who brings a lot of comments to his posts. LOL. If the real motivation is to expose wrongdoings about KK and her actions within NXIVM, he would of done that by now. That is just my opinion and you can think and respond however you want.
TL,TB;DR.
To Susan
Since you didn’t reply to my earlier questions, I have a few more for you. My questions are very easy ones, too.
In this above post where you refute the other person’s claims, you misspell the word “you’re ” several times. You use the word ‘your’ instead of ‘you’re’, but on your earlier post , you knew which word was which ( and a woman of your age and education SHOULD know this.)You also make a number of odd grammatical errors in this second post. I get the impression these posts were not written by the same person. Is this correct? Why does your spelling and grammar vary from one post to the next?
Why did you reply to the other persons questions, but did not answer the questions I asked you?
Why do you continue to not sign your name to your posts? On earlier posts you chose to identify yourself.
We all need to make this website more joyful by picking different names for every post we submit. Just put the name of the first person you see on TV. I’ll go first.
Hey Torquemada! My question for you is a very easy one. In your posts I discern a subtle change of cadence from inquisitorial to very inquisitorial. A woman of your age and education ought to know better etc. How do we know who you are? and if indeed you exist at all? Why do you never respond to my questions when you answer other persons questions. you SHOULD do better and be better. You are not good enough. On earlier posts you identified yourself in the same way as you do now, which is not at all. Why? Do as your told, NOW.
Flowers shut the fuck up.
Why lie about Kreuk leaving shortly after you did on 2009? https://frankreport.com/2018/10/16/guest-view-what-did-you-know-after-you-left-some-pointed-questions-for-susan-dones-about-kristin-kreuk-and-allison-mack/
Although I do appreciate the Frank Report keeping us up to date on events taking place, I have to agree with Susan and say that, as an ex-member of NXIVM, I am do feel that pointing the finger at KK is a bit of a stretch. She was in ESP when I joined over 9 years ago and she did not stick around for long. There are MANY other actors who were in NXIVM for much longer and who recruited and coached loads of people. Why are you focusing on KK and not on them?? She did very little harm, if any, compared to so many others in the organization.
I don’t blame her for wanting to stay as far away from the situation as possible…especially since she chose to leave the community years ago.
Didn’t stick around for long? She was there for at least seven years! And she was still around beyond her leave claim of 2013. She was named in a criminal lawsuit. She was part of a secret NXIVM meeting on Necker Island where money laundering was said to be discussed. They made plans on that island in 2010. She stayed with Keith Raniere when she was named in the Times Union expose that revealed Raniere was a pedophile. She never turned on the cult.
Susan, me thinks you protest too much. My reponses are following the ***.
Frank, the Kristin Kreuk story line is getting old and where is your PROOF? *** Frank never claimed he was proving anything.
Frank, you have been accused of several serious crimes that if you don’t cut a deal with the FEDS, you are going to trial within the next six months. *** What does that have to do with KK?
Don’t you want the FEDS to prove their case against you? *** Of course, but that is a court of law, this website is a court of public opinion.
Is speculation enough for them to convict you? *** See above.
This Kristin Kreuk story line is the makings of a HALLOWEEN STORY because Frank, you are on a WITCH HUNT. *** I prefer the term “WITCH TROLLING.”
Stories like this are an attempt to SHIFT the blame onto people who were never involved in NXIVM’s criminal organization and takes the focus off those who are involved. *** How is it that you are aware of every single crime that NXIVM ever committed?
Reporting in this type of manner is a classic NXIVM strategy and one of the publications referred to as Rag magazines. *** What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
Frank, you have been told by several Ex-NXIVM members, that the theory you are attempting to prove, never happened. *** Frank isn’t trying to prove anything, he’s merely providing information.
It’s this kind of behavior that Ex-NXIVM members have stopped talking with you sharing information or even coming to the Frank Report. *** So what? The case is now in the hands of the Federal court system.
Frank, you continue to accuse innocent people of wrongdoing. *** No, he’s just providing information.
There are many who have, so why not focus of them? *** Provide Frank information on them, I’m sure Frank would be happy to report it.
Frank where is your proof that his woman, her friends in the story (other than Allison Mack) and Girls by Design ever recruited young girls into NXIVM? *** Frank doesn’t need proof, this is a court of public opinion, remember?
You have shown none. *** What is your point?
Where is the proof (except Allison Mack) that they were involved in any illegal/immoral activities with NXIVM’s illegal enterprise? *** There was NXIVM training to not pay income taxes, did you follow that training?
Frank, you and your co-conspirators (most likely NXIVM trolls) are stringing some facts together in an ATTEMPT to make up something that you have not shown any proof happened. *** Frank is providing dots for others to connect.
SO, FRANK, WHERE’S IS YOUR PROOF and what is your beef with the woman? *** How many times are you going to ask the same question?
I think you write about this woman, and your fictional story about her intent, because it gets you the most clicks on your blog. *** What’s wrong with clicks?
This story line also gets you a lot of comments, but it’s mostly just people who are having arguments. *** Compared to the number of readers, the number of commenters is miniscule. People enjoy arguing, and it gets more clicks. What’s wrong with that?
Is this the motive behind you posting about this woman and this story line? *** Obviously, it’s to get people to contribute more information, to fill in the blanks.
Hanging on to this kind of story is why most EX-NX ’s have stopped talking with you. *** Frank doesn’t need those people.
Now, you’re stuck with NXIVM trolls to give you (mis) information. *** As opposed to Ex-NXIVM people providing misinformation?
If you have real proof that GBD was recruiting young girls into NXIVM, show your proof or move on. *** Do you honestly think there was a different motive? Seriously?
Where are the enrollments? *** We don’t know, ask that question to the FBI and DOJ.
Where are the outraged parents saying this woman enrolled her child into being a sex-slave to Raninere? *** Most people are too embarassed to come forward, it’s the (almost) perfect crime.
Here are the facts as known: *** According to you.
• Was she in NXIVM? – yes, we all know that to be true *** Wow, we agree on something. Pop the champagne cork.
• Were all the people in the story a part of NXIVM? – yes that is known to be true *** Two for two, we’re on a roll.
• Was GBD a NXIVM plot to bring in young girls? – This you have not proved EVER *** Patience, the trial will start in a few months, or within a year or two.
• GBD was in the making before any of these women took a NXIVM course – that is a fact *** Do YOU have proof of that? You insist on having proof from Frank, where is your proof?
Did NXIVM attempt to take advantage of this woman for recruitment?- yes. *** Wow, another Bingo winner.
• Fact is, NXIVM tried to use everyone who walked through their doors to recruit people. *** I think you just proved Frank’s point, way to go!
NXIVM had an ‘enroll three people’ into the same course and get yours free, or within three months; you’d get a refund of the price you paid. *** Did you know anybody that actually did that?
This was only for the 5 or 16 day course. *** Isn’t that the “bread and butter” of NXIVM?
If a person thought the course was good for them, of course, they would tell their friends. *** And if they thought the course was trash, they kept quiet because they were ashamed they lost money, right?
• Fact is, people could become salespeople for NXIVM enrollments and make money enrolling others. *** What’s your point? Isn’t that how a lot of MLMs work?
• Fact is, most people never saw or were part of the NXIVM criminal enterprise. *** There were lots of parts of the NXIVM criminal enterprise, which ones are you referring to? I like the tax evasion part, people said it was taught and the IRS loves to go after tax cheaters, because there is usually lots of documented evidence against them.
People like myself, and Kristin Kreuk, thought we were in a training program that improved lives.’ *** Did you ever cheat on your taxes? How about KK?
• Fact is, the training did improve people’s lives, The 16 day course helped me. *** Which course taught how to cheat on taxes? Did the money saved improve your life and the lives of others? How does that “improvement” feel now?
I have people who even now tell me they were glad they took the basic training. *** Just because NXIVM had a silver lining doesn’t mean it wasn’t mostly feces.
Why do you think people stuck around? *** How about because they were love bombed and were trying to recruit others to get their courses for free?
It wasn’t to be part of a criminal enterprise; we saw improvements in our lives and those that took the basic coursework. *** You keep using the “basic” coursework. Wasn’t NXIVM also providing neverending advanced courses as well?
• Fact is, the Cult aspect of NXIVM and the criminal/immoral enterprise was very well hidden and protected by Raniere and his inner circle. *** Yes, that’s how most MLM scams work, keep the bad stuff hidden.
Raniere is a mastermind at hiding his illegal/immoral behavior. *** He’s actually pretty small compared to large MLM scams, such as Herbalife.
Is she famous? – You have to define famous. *** Famous enough to attract others. If she was very famous, she would have too much to lose and not even get involved.
To this day, I don’t see her on any of the actors’ magazines or TV show interviewing like many of whom I would call a famous actor doing. *** NXIVM didn’t want to draw too much attention, just enough to attract more people so they could scam them.
During her time with NXIVM, only those who watched Smallville knew of her as an actor before NXIVM made a big deal about it. *** Or those who were told she was on Smallville.
NXIVM was good at making certain people “a big deal.” *** Of course they were, that’s how a scam operates.
Is she to blame for doing horrible things because she is an actor? –no. *** No, she is to blame for doing horrible things because she’s a human being, her occupation has nothing to do with it.
NXIVM made many people a “big deal” — actors, certain business people, those with positions in government, ex-president’s sons, daughters – people like the Bronfman sisters and anyone they could use as a showcase. *** Yes, and it attracted a lot of people into their scam.
Isn’t this what all companies that depend on sales do to enhance their income streams? *** Yes, but most companies didn’t teach tax fraud, burn the founder’s initials into pubic regions while blackmailing them, sex traffic, rape underage girls, etc. Do you see the difference?
You do it all the time with how many people come to your blog and from what countries. *** See above, does Frank do those other things that NXIVM did?
You even say things such as “as a highly reliable individual, who has provided me with” this information. *** So what? Can you prove otherwise?
Frank, you did it in this story line with “Here are some comments and links sent by a reader, followed by my thoughts on the topic.” *** Do you prefer Frank to be boring? Would that help the readship level?
You even call her the “most famous member.” *** Who is more famous?
Well, that’s just your opinion, and a way to sensationalize your theory in an attempt to SELL it to your readers. *** Isn’t that what marketing is all about?
Enrollment in itself isn’t illegal or immoral when you think you’re enrolling for a training course. *** Agreed, it’s all the other things that come with it that make it illegal and immoral.
What Allison Mack, Lauren/Nancy Salzman, Keith Raniere, Clare Bronfman and some others were enrolling into was much different than taking or supporting what you think is a good self-help program. *** No argument there. Which “different” things did you do?
What media outlet reports on her besides THE FRANK REPORT? *** There are several, why do you ask?
Frank, you are the one pointing to a PLOT you have not proven nor have you given us any factual proof to back up your story. *** Other media outlets do the same thing.
Is it too bad not all your readers understand the facts you string together don’t make this woman into the person you keep accusing her of being. *** The readers are grown ups, they can do their own research and make up their own minds.
There were over 7,500 people who took NXIVM related course. *** As stated above, that’s a very small number in MLMland.
Were they all involved with criminal activities? *** Probably not, but that’s not the point.
• Fact – No *** So what?
If she was involved in something shady, don’t you think NXIVM would have held that over her head as collateral so she couldn’t leave? *** Perhaps they held it over her to keep her quiet, or she knew that if she spoke out, she would be sued by the bottomless pit of money the Bronfmans had.
It’s how they entrapped their goons in the first place. *** So it makes sense they would keep doing it, right?
They are attempting to get this kind of collateral over anyone and were doing it long before DOS. *** Blackmail before DOS, that sounds like another crime.
NXIVM encouraged people to not pay your taxes, bring some cash across the border, hack into people’s computers. *** Thanks for confirming those crimes.
Not everyone became a goon for them. *** They didn’t need everyone to become a goon, only enough of them to keep the scam running.
Once NXIVM had their collateral, they had them hooked, and they could never leave. *** Or they could leave and keep quiet, right?
I left when I found out about Keith Raniere’s crimes and immoral behavior. *** I thought you said people couldn’t leave, and you just proved that they (you) did.
Raniere was sleeping with multiple women, and he and his gal pals had the plot to manipulate women into doing this. *** Yes, that’s called a crime, namely blackmail.
NXIVM Criminal Enterprise (NCE) was not paying taxes and was trying to get others not to pay theirs. *** I’m sure the IRS is already on this trail.
NCE brought large amounts of cash across the Mexican border and not claiming it as income. *** Do you have proof of this, or just another claim like you accuse Frank of doing?
What do you do with that much cash? – you have to launder it. *** Another crime, I’m sure the FBI/DOJ is hot on that trail already.
At the time I left, DOS wasn’t happening. *** But other crimes were happening, so what is your point/
When I left in 2009, I shut my center down, told as many people who would listen to me about what I found out, and talked to the authorities. *** Good for you, that was the right thing to do.
What did that get me? *** It got you doing the right thing.
I got sued by NXIVM, the authorities did nothing, and NXIVM held communities’ meetings attempting to hatch the same kind of plot your doing with this woman. *** That’s how most MLMs work, why do you think your situation should be any different?
NXIVM got a certain amount of people to believe that I was a bad person and was lying about what I found out. *** See above.
They shifted the blame to me in order to make themselves look good. *** See above.
Frank, you used the same game theory NXIVM is using by trying to make it look as if this woman has done something bad. *** Frank didn’t sue her, that is a very significant difference.
She is not obligated to say anything other than what she has said. *** And Frank isn’t obligated to stop talking about what she might know.
Knowing what NXIVM was doing with people who left and spoke out about them, I don’t blame her for not saying anything, if she did know anything. *** I do, she could have more influence in helping people not get scammed by NXIVM and she didn’t do it.
Because so many people who were actually a part of NXIVM no longer talk with you, one has to wonder if your being fed information from NXIVM trolls? *** As stated above, this is in the hands of the Federal court system and NXIVM people are known liars anyway.
Do you keep repeating this story line for clicks on your blog. *** Was that a question? If so, the answer is yes. The more people who know about NXIVM the better.
To date, you have not shown any proof this woman is guilty of anything other than being a part of a program she thought was a good thing. *** So what?
Those who stayed with NXIVM after things were exposed, bought NXIVM’s stories about how it was other people attempting to harm NXIVM and what they were saying was lies. ***Please restate this sentence, I don’t know what you’re trying to say.
Frank, you are attempting the same game by stringing some facts together and make it a reality. *** How do you come to that conclusion?
The fact you are putting your facts into a YAHTZEE CUP, shaking it up and pouring out a story does not make it REALITY; This story line is old and is just plain fiction. *** That is one talented YAHTZEE CUP, it comes up with complete sentences and story lines every single time. Where there is smoke, there’s fire.
A journalist would not write such a story without “fact checking” their story with people who know the REAL FACTS. *** Do you feel left out? Do you really think you know everything that went on in NXIVM such that you can call balls and strikes? You said Raniere was good at hiding things, so that appears doubtful.
Frank, you not acting like a real journalist, too many people have told you what your attempting to put together is not REALITY. *** The current day “real journalists” make up much more fake news stories that Frank could dream up in his wettest night.
Frank, this is a good article that presents a valid point of view.
*However, don’t let Susan’s faulty logic turn you off from reporting about KK in future articles.
Don’t let her attempt at questioning the legitimacy of your “journalism” lead you to back off from future KK articles, since that’s an emotional plea she’s making, not a logical one.
You have never said that KK’s guilty of anything. You’re merely holding her feet to the public flame — to ensure that if she did anything immoral (not necessarily illegal, but still immoral) then such things will get exposed for the court of public opinion to decide upon.
Susan Dones is clearly speaking from an emotional point of view, not an entirely logical one.
In one breath she appeals to Frank to shut down all references to KK in future articles unless he’s got a ‘smoking gun’ (that’s what she means by “proof”) — but in the next breath she’ll be the first person to slam people like Donald Trump for “collusion” with Russia and the Pee Pee Dossier without any smoking gun to prove it.
Hypocrite, anybody?
She’ll be the first person to poke fun of Melania for personal things like her wardrobe, yet she’ll act outraged when you do that to any of her ex-NXIVM pals like Bouchey, Toni Natalie, herself, Keeffe or Kreuk.
Again, it’s just hypocrisy. She can dish it out, but can’t take it.
She’s attempting to silence a particular point of view (one critical of KK) under the guise of “real journalism”.
If CNN can run story after story about Trump and his family doing all kinds of wacky things, much of it either made up or without real solid evidence, then there’s nothing wrong with continuing to EXPLORE Kreuk’s involvement with GBD and NXIVM.
**Every news network reported the Pee Pee Dossier as though it was fact, yet it was shown to be fiction without any shred of proof anyplace (just a bunch of references to mysterious strangers who heard about a video that never existed, LOL).
**Look at what Carl Bernstein got caught doing by having his Trump Tower story *totally debunked*, yet he’s the gold standard for many old school journalists, LOL.
Frank is doing better than them.
It’s clear that Susan Dones is very fond of KK which means her point of view isn’t the most unbiased, Frank.
Sorry Susan, but your attempt at calling anybody a “troll” just for disagreeing with you is a rather lame emotional response, which intelligent people don’t do.
I know, I know… I’m a “troll” for making this post. LOL. I should be banned. LOL. How dare I question your view.
But seriously, try watching Hillary standing by Bill for having 7 women claim he sexually assaulted them. Yet when Blasey Ford gets caught lying about several things in her story, the GOP are proclaimed as evil for doubting a woman. Umm, but what about Bill’s 7 women who claim sexual assault?
If that double standard is real journalism in your mind, then what Frank is doing is several levels higher than that. 🙂
Frank is doing just fine. Keep it up Frank. Don’t let Susan silence you. 🙂
And muddy the waters
Frank is just raising questions, for several reasons, including but not limited to:
1. Entertainment;
2. Helping law enforcement with new leads, or filling in some blank spots they have with existing leads; and
3. Providing information that people who read this website can contribute additional information.
Anonymous, you must be pretty new to the Frank Report.
If you do a search on the Frank Report with KK name, you will see that there are many stories written already with the same rehashed information. Isn’t it time to bring some proof to the table or move on?
1. This blog is not about entertainment, its about NXIVM and Frank isn’t writing about KK entertainment history. Some people believe they are being entertaining with their comments on this subject (and other posts but they need to keep their day jobs). We are talking about a real person here who is being dragged through the mud with only speculation of wrong doings while she was in NXIVM. Is this really the mentality of the readers of the blog?
2. Do you believe law enforcement doesn’t know about her? Stories have been written on the Frank Report and the Saratoga in Decline blog.The DOJ is well aware she was involved in NXIVM. To date Frank has only speculated about any wrong doings and has not brought any new information that wasn’t share on Saratoga in Decline.
3. How many times do people need the same information? If you do a search with her name on the Frank Report there is nine pages with stories that involve KK. Each page has 15 stories.
Do the readers of this blog really need more story that rehashes the same thing over and over again. I think not but it’s Frank’s blog and he can do what he wants. Dragging this woman through the mud with no new information seems to be on Franks most wanted story list.
It’s well known that Troll sent from NXIVM are here to distract from the real issues. KK seems like a pretty good distraction and stories that include her, get a lot of clicks which is a double win for him.
Most new people aren’t going to go back to the beginning to read everything, so repeating what has been said before is helpful to new people.
1. There are lots of entertainment websites that drag people through the mud.
2. Just because law enforcement knows about her doesn’t mean they know everything about her.
3. Nine pages and 15 stories per page, that makes her look like a very bad girl. I like trolls, they add a certain amount of excitement and unpredictability to a website. It’s even better when the trolls are anonymous, as most commenters on this website are, because that virtually guarantees a complete lack of responsible discussion. Frank is a very smart man.