People Who Are Easily Brainwashed Should Not Read Further!
A person can be innocent of the charges against them, yet the fear of the imperfect nature of our justice system (and a much longer sentence), compels this person to plea, taking a lesser sentence to be done with it. Nearly one out of three pleas may be taken under this type of duress.
There is an important psychological theory called Cognitive Dissonance.
This model helps describe actions and motivations during the aftermath of plea and other decisions in criminal proceedings.
Take the following innocuous situation: I am presented with two items for the same purchase price — say a toaster and a blender, both $50 — and I rate their desirability identically at five on a scale from one to ten.
Once I make a choice, I create an internal dissonance: the uncertainty my choice was best. Cognitive Dissonance theory says as time passes, to resolve this dissonance, I gather data to support the correctness of my decision. I seek, select, and filter data tending to show the option I chose was the better, and the option I did not choose worse.
If I am asked to rate these same two items in the future, I will tend to rate my purchase higher — say a six — and the option I did not choose lower, more like a four. If we raise the purchase price to $1000, the effect becomes even stronger: we are no longer merely worried about a $50 mistake, the stakes are much higher. The greater the downside of a wrong decision, the more profound the effect (the motivation and strategies we use to “prove” to ourselves we chose well).
This also means the more we act based on a choice, the less likely we will ever choose the opposite — even if offered the option. This is especially true with destruction: although the receiver of destruction has plenty of motivation to question choices, the doer of destruction has the opposite.
An extreme illustration of this comes to us through the allegory of vampires:
One particular variation allows the vampire to switch on and off their humanity (conscience). Once switched off, the rekindling of their humanity requires facing all the conscienceless deeds done thenceforth in the moment it is switched back on.
In one instance, a vampire had killed loved ones and relatives in an especially cruel way. How would it be to wake up one day, as if from a dream, to “remember” you had cruelly destroyed those you love? Many people would rather not wake up. This is the sad reality of those who destroy much, yet are incorrect in their assumptions: they have a strong motivation not to see their mistakes.
When people are moral, they must exercise self-doubt with check and balance type practices and thinking.
One very essential practice for each important decision is answering, on an ongoing basis, the questions, “Am I wrong?” and “If I am wrong, how will I fix what I have done?”
If you do not believe you can fix what you do then you likely should not do it. Once done, if you cannot fix the results, there will be a very strong motivation to not see the possibility you made a wrong decision. As a guideline we teach, you should always care about whom you might be hurting with your decisions and actions — including people you might consider your opponents. You should always seek to redeem, not destroy.
The opposition to our community has destroyed:
NXIVM, a 20-year old company with over 17,000 past students from 33 countries. It has a full community, 2000+ hours of curriculum, coaches world leaders, and positive studies in ethics, IQ, and self-esteem. NXIVM seeks to inspire more joy in people’s lives independent of religion and political beliefs. Our goal is to provide our unique tool-set for people to be more compassionate ethical humanitarians.
Jness, an international woman’s group in 8 countries with 8+ years of monthly curriculum and twelve 80+ hour intensives. Although it comprises women from all walks of life, it also has female international leaders, CEO’s, and nationally recognized thinkers. It is time for women to inherit their powerful birthright and contribute to even more to humanity’s evolution with their unique world-changing abilities and experience. Jness facilitates this empowerment through a one-in-a-lifetime journey of wisdom.
Inlak’ech, a Mexican peace movement organizing community alert practices, a weekly national peace pledge, the Santiago transformational community project, the Pan American games peace segment (with associated production awards and nominations: 3 day-time Emmys, 10 Tele), and many other individual events. It’s a well-developed experiential model of non-violence transforming societal violence and antagonism into appreciation respect, and an interdependent culture.
The Tourette’s project, which has 12 out of 12 successful outcomes, and an award-winning documentary (first place in the Milan and Harlem film festivals). This is a documented initial study and is the first step to studying the application of the proprietary EM method to a range of syndromes including Autism, OCD, and Crohn’s disease.
Rainbow Cultural Garden has hundreds of multi-cultural children (with many speaking 8 or more languages) creating a world without boundaries through a generation of multi-cultural, compassionate, world-citizen leaders.
The Knife of Aristotle media site and diagnostic methodology. A new addition to media applying science to journalism providing objective measures and data.
Additionally, the community itself with the SOP (men’s group), exo|eso, Reverence, Platform 0, The Source acting program, World Audience Productions, Simply Human, Children’s books, The Ethicist and related studies, and many sub-divisions and sub-groups of these.
What if this opposition is wrong? How could the destruction of these things be undone?
Any person participating in this wrongdoing would tend to make excuses and blame rather than face these consequences. The conscience of one person in particular, the organizer and chief active proponent of this opposition, would bear much of this as weight and responsibility.
The destruction is vast: the value of these entities, lost future contributions, and the loss and pain of thousands of people. Can you imagine “waking up” to this?
Most people would not want to “wake up” and therefore would not want to evaluate their decisions. The words, “What if I am wrong?” will never be heard in their minds. As with our opponents, if destruction is the method of dealing with conflict (there are other methods), the more damage caused, the stronger the motivation to not re-assess the decisions to destroy. Thereby the damage will continue.
Some of the people in opposition to our community say they “woke up” one day to find they had done horrible things in the name of our community, and must now destroy it — although believing you’ve done something bad by supporting a community does not mean you must now destroy it.
On the most basic level, there has been no stated act of “wrongdoing” or actual things destroyed by our community. The only bad thing allegedly done is wasting time, and contributing to something now not liked. It is one thing to say something is “bad,” it is another to be able to pin-point what is “bad” about it beyond an opinion or dislike.
The opposition aggresses upon us to destroy, and to destroy as globally as possible. This is their guiding principle. Most civilized groups accept instead, in the least, the basic tenets of “retaliatory force in equal measure” and “minimizing damage.”
Although I have been incarcerated for 18 months (as of this writing), people within the community are still aggressively pursued and shamed, in their neighborhoods, media, and on the Internet.
This is certainly microcosmal of some of the worst activities of humankind from the past.
The prosecution, controlled by our opposition, has even stated, “First, we are going to cut the head of the snake off, and then we’re coming for the body.”
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A man convicted to an unusual sentence should be allowed to speak. Specially when his defense was none because of prosecution threatening behavior.
Cognitive dizziness explains our human behavior, and regarding to destruction it is difficult to look back to the damage done. No wonder that those opposites who led or participated actively refuse to question, even if Keith is guilty, how I am going to repair above and beyond the damage done? Easier to shut up their conscience and pretend that they are right.
The amount of damage done is beyond measure. The companies, in different ways, empowered human beings to have more conscious, achievements and joy.
Through this hate campaign many students and members have been pursued, punished in social and media.
It is deeply sad to see how human beings destroy the best of themselves, either another human beings or their own conscience, or both.
I have no problems with KR writing here. However, he is wrong.
The destruction of all those groups has been a massive good. Most of what was taught was not helpful. It divided men and women. It peddled views that divided them and added to people’s prejudices against women and against men. It fed a lie about women and men. It wasted people’s time doing these hours and hours of expensive courses when they could instead have just got on with their careers or gone for a long walk. So, it is a moral good it has gone and if that is a by-product of the crimes, that is a desirable by-product.
Also, it was brought down because of its criminal activities. Had it stayed on the right side of the law, it would not be where it now is.
“This is especially true with destruction: although the receiver of destruction has plenty of motivation to question choices, the doer of destruction has the opposite.”
This essay is interesting and the comments in response even more so.
Keith doesn’t attack or defame the character of any of the people who have been against him, yet is heavily criticized for doing so even though he does the complete opposite. Seems that if people have made up their minds that he’s a monster, then all thinking, questioning and critical thinking comes to a halt. Is there anything he could really say to someone who’s so rigid in their thinking that would change their perception of him?
But, his words should be here nonetheless. Using your time to speak so ill of another is one way to live your life. Being in prison, even though the world is against you, and speaking compassionately about all people is what Keith is doing. I’d rather read Keith’s essays than scroll through the hate infused in most of these comments.
Why y’all so mad all the time?
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First, I’m still shocked that Keith Raniere has been able to read our posts at all – pardon my naïveté on that count – and, secondly, I’m sick of everyone pretending he is not among the FR audience, if not an active anonymous participate either vicariously through his “minions” or “Yo, douchebag, wazzup?! And, yes, Keith Raniere, I’m talking to you.
Took you 18 months to define “Cognitive Dissonance” for us — in simple, zombie-speak so even your own brain-zapped sheep, groats and other so-called ‘farm animals’ you’ve collected will “get it” — and you call that a defense for your cohorts? Or was that Parlato’s headline genius? 😆
I caught your “Cognitive Dissonance” dissertation a time or two a few years back on you tube and, again, my question remains — did you refine this suiciding skill that proved so useful in orchestrating my sister’s (the late Gina Hutchinson) final break down before or after you saw my Albany Times Union interview, wherein I suggested that a state of “cognitive dissonance” and “emotional triggers” contributed to her death?
I have a few more matters I’d like to take up with you, Keith, when you have some time on your hands. Love the Vampire analogy. That’s original. But I still don’t see how it relates to the innocence of your co-defendants or any as yet uncharged perpetrators.
And, not to overwhelm you, but pray tell whom do you personally suspect may be “The Rat”?
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Keith probably wrote this to address his remaining followers.
It would be alarming to the followers that high ranking, trusted Nxium women closest to Keith pled guilty.
It reads as if Keith knows better than to attack four women that the followers were taught to respect. It puts Vanguard in a bit of a bind.
If these women are lying, what does that say about their integrity? Have the followers misplaced trust in these women? In Nxivm? In the tech working? In Keith’s judgment in who he chose as his closest allies?
If the women are telling the truth, what does that say about Keith? And Keith had already addressed his followers and proclaimed no knowledge of or involvement in DOS. Keith denied the branding. At Keith’s direction, Lauren and Allison lied to the Nxivm community about the practices and existence of DOS.
Mark Vicente was a trusted, very close friend of Keith. It would also be strategically problematic to come out swinging against Mark at the time Keith wrote this manifesto.
Sarah Edmondson was beloved and respected by the Nxivm students and community. It would take some mental gymnastics to explain why all of these former “best of the best” in Nxivm had all spoken out against Raniere. And how they all had similar complaints.
Keith seems to be trying to have his harem and eat it too. By portraying the defectors as good people who made a bad choice and now must stand by it or suffer the massive weight of “destruction” they have (wrongly, in Keith’s purview) wrought.
I am still trying to gain clarity on the purpose of Vanguard’s really puffed up and false claims about all of the various self-serving and largely unsuccessful Nxivm companies (such as The Source, for example). Most real insiders to Nxivm would know it is bullshit. Maybe the low-level students would fall for this propaganda? Or is it just to stroke his own ego?
In analyzing any of Vanguard’s jail house or prison musings, it is constructive to ask:
Who was this written for?
What does Keith hope to achieve with this message?
And so forth.
Who was this written for? All y’all. https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/7aa109cb-fe86-41f4-8a43-a2cd766a689d
Why now? The 120 is proof that he messed up, and he should have tried this full court press way earlier. It’s fight or quietly die. If he had a do-over, he’d go back to the trial and take the stand.
What does Keith hope to achieve with this message? Supporters. Both within the NXIVM community and outside of it. Throw everything he has and see what sticks. Grab every pseudo-celebrity who is willing to accept shoeboxes of cake as a brib–errrrr- as thanks for taking his side. Release messages like this. Sucker the Suneels of the world to publicly support him. Get his supporters on podcasts. If he can flip public perception, he thinks an appeal may stand a chance.
As I write, there are 128 responses to the first written statement Keith Raniere has made in many months: a statement published only here.
4 of these are from supporters: 2 (mercifully short!) comments by Joshua, 1 by Isabella, and 1 by Anonymous.
1 by Anthony, but I can never decide if this poster is being sarcastic or not.
2 by Anna, but again not sure if she’s serious or not.
1 by Two Lawyers, who in my view obviously loves taking the piss out of Anthony (could be Anthony’s sock puppet?) but maybe possibly is serious (please God no).
The rest are all critical and/or mocking.
So… to be generous, 8 out of 128, 6% in support.
Not exactly an online army to back him up, even anonymously.
Some of the phrases will seem familiar from this older cult’s defense.
If Keith speaks, he is attacked; if he doesn’t speak; he is attacked.
It’s not an “attack” on Keith (He is the ” attacker”). It’s more of a defense. Against Keith. And evil. And support for Keith’s many, many victims.
If Keith speaks, he is going to die in prison; if he doesn’t speak, he is going to die in prison.
Justice is sweet.
John Wayne Gacy and Manuel Noriega had similar complaints….
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I do not believe “many” children from rainbow cultural gardens “speak 8 or more languages”
Prove it, please.
I’ll settle for one.
Which woman in jness was “a nationally recognized thinker”?
Follow-up question: how do you define “nationally recognized”?
It’s easy to define. Use the same process as when we defined East Coast Judo champion.
The deranged ramblings of a convicted paedophile. Totally nonsensical and pathetic.
The sentence structure of Mr. Raniere’s latest writing leaves much to be desired and is a wee-bit befuddling at times.
I found Mr. Raniere’s ridiculous metaphors incredible freeing. I felt like I was reading Emily Dickinson on a bad acid trip. No iambic pentameter! No rules!
Perhaps the intention is to confuse and unsettle others, to discover or interpret into the nonsense something meaningful that is not there at all. This is how Vanguard did it in Nxivm.
I could not make it through the first paragraph, and did some very fast skimming after that. Such a bad word salad.
Once you know his bag of tricks, it doesn’t work anymore. I am really losing steam in this story because KR does not interest me like he once did. What is more interesting is what will happen with the rest of the supporting characters.
Vanguard knows he’s cooked. He is mirroring Mein Kampf. He is writing this likes its a hoorah to change history.
“When people are moral, they must exercise self-doubt with check and balance type practices and thinking”.
And it is what people deny to see.
What they are seeing, is that Keith isn’t making an intelligent point.
Sadly, you fail to see that.
Joshua, if you read this over and over to understand it in a scholarly way, you wasted your time: its word salad. Nonsense. Bullshit. Pick a phrase.
It’s obvious to me that Keith and the main detractors of Keith and his top-level female slaves are rampantly misogynistic. Their hatred for Keith is easily exceeded by that towards his female followers. The younger they are, and the more arguably attractive they are, the more they are hated. Matronly, homely Nancy gets off quite lightly.
Some of the commentators here hate Mack, Salzman and Kreuk much more than Raniere.
I don’t hate any of them.
I just want to see justice done; fairly and equitably, regardless of gender.
Without his female witches, Raniere could not have inflicted 10% of the misery that he did.
I’m stoned off winter wonderland. This beautiful bud is the size of my hand. It smells like a pine forest. I wonder what kinda food Keith is eating these days? Have a nice day 😊
The Frank Report should publish Keith Raniere’s writings!
A few readers have criticized Frank for publishing Keith Raniere‘s writings from prison. By publishing Raniere’s writings, Frank is affording us all an opportunity to peer into the mind of a sociopathic cult leader.
Nothing in Keith Raniere’s latest declaration can do any harm. Keith’s latest prison essay amounts to the ramblings of a desperate man. The only downside is Keith’s followers are learning Keith is not such a good writer whatsoever.
Subway station denizens are more coherent in their thoughts than Keith is currently. 😂
Penn Station 195, February 16, 2021 at 4:26 pm
Keith has the advantage of never being homeless again.
He no longer has to worry about that.
Penn Station 195,
You’re totally right, except that I don’t think his followers do see that. They aren’t getting it.
It’s so great to see someone speak honorably and positively of people who’ve acted against you.
I understand how most of the people reading this site can’t see that. You only see the intent you use in life.
I hope the people in this case can get justice one day.
—You only see the intent you use in life.
Typical BS cult, deflection speak. You only see what you “want to see”, as if you can’t objectively witness or judge things.
Then you see only the intent you use in life.
Works both ways.
That is so vain and hilarious. You think only you have magic clarity glasses from silly Nxivm? Ha ha ha
Keith will be getting his justice for 120 years.
Clare is getting her justice for the 81 months.
Co-conspirators will be learning how much justice they get soon.
Justice is sweet!
I’ve seen video of Keith speaking on The Vow and YouTube. This is the first time I’ve read anything he’s written.
Terrible. Rambling. Nonsensical. Whiny.
He thinks he’s going to guilt trip his former culties who took him down? Hilarious.
His followers are impressed by this? Hilarious
Per the article/ramblings, “Although I have been incarcerated for 18 months (as of this writing)…” So that means KR wrote this sometime between his conviction (June 2019) and his sentencing (October 2020).
Frank, when and how did you receive this writing?
Why publish it now, nearly a year and a half after it was penned?
I received it very recently. It is timely because he speaks about four of his codefendants who will soon be sentenced.
As far as when he wrote it, I do not know. I saw the 18 months as well. If that is accurate, he must have written at least the first part of it in October 2019.
I understand he updated the series/article recently and only recently released it for publication.
As I explained in my introduction, it is important to publish his words from prison. When it has direct bearing on his codefendants, it is doubly important.
You may note that I published every single victim statement at his sentencing, with every gruesome detail about him. I have written some 5,000 stories criticizing and accusing him of various crimes and morally repugnant behavior. I am not a follower.
I think he is a despicable person and yet I believe he needs to be further studied to prevent this kind of thing from happening again – a community of largely good people who followed a deplorable man.
He is also going to mount an appeal which I plan to cover carefully. It is possible that a person could be a horrible monster, and yet, at the same time, prosecutors might have committed misconduct. Raniere is claiming this. I do not know enough to agree or disagree. However, I think these allegations are more serious than the allegations against Raniere.
Government is supposed to be the good guy. If they are both bad guys – the government and Raniere – then this needs to be exposed.
But let me be clear: I am not making the accusation of prosecutorial misconduct in Raniere’s case. He is making that accusation. I am covering it.
I repeat: It is possible for Raniere to be a villain and a ruthless criminal and for lawyers [prosecutors] working for the Department of Justice to be villains and act in a way that would be criminal if a private citizen or defense lawyer did the same thing. I believe it is possible that prosecutors for the Dept. of Justice often act in a criminal manner but are so unchecked and unmonitored that they can get away with convicting innocent people. I am not saying that that is the case in the Raniere prosecution.
But I have seen prosecutors at the DOJ act in a manner that is corrupt or at least showing a reckless disregard for the truth and a carelessness about innocence or guilt.
If Raniere has something to say about his codefendants, I am interested in sharing it with readers. That’s why I am publishing this now. Readers often give valuable insights.
If I were regularly writing about Adolf Hitler, Charles Manson, Tim McVeigh, Attila the Hun or anyone who the public despises, if I got my hands on their original words, I would publish them.
It might just be that it will prove greater villainy, or prove guilt or it might help explain why the villain did what he did.
Raniere is in prison. Anything he writes or says is not going to change that. If he has any hope at all of ever getting out of prison, and it is exceedingly slim, it lies with his appellate lawyers. Not with anything I publish or choose not to publish.
Since Raniere is in prison, he will not be recruiting anybody new to his harem, his slave groups, or his life coaching – unless it is in prison among prisoners [or perhaps guards]. He poses no threat to anyone outside of USP Tucson.
Some say my publishing his words is an insult or a terror to victims. Many of those victims stood up and made public statements. Many more of them [about 100, I am told] have filed statements with the court under seal seeking restitution for their suffering. About 80 victims have joined in a civil suit, going after Raniere and the Bronfman sisters.
If these victims can subject themselves to depositions and a trial, in order to collect money, they can tolerate a little bit of Raniere proclaiming his innocence and claiming his co-defendants are innocent on a website they do not have to read.
Of course, I sympathize with anyone who is a victim of this calculating wolf who pranced about in sheep’s clothing – as an ethicist, a teacher, a compassionate man.
I am a victim of him myself, but I did something about it. I urge any and all victims to adopt a spirit of defiance and say let the fool talk. It won’t change a thing. But perhaps I can learn something new about him and, in fact, understand how I became a victim. This will be good for two reasons at least. One, it should help prevent me from being a victim again to someone else, and possibly it might help someone, somewhere, avoid being a victim of such as he.
For this reason and for others, I am publishing Keith Raniere’s written remarks about his codefendants’ innocence, written from prison.
Mr. Parlato, thank you for publishing Keith’s writings. I find the whole play fascinating.
I do not object to your publishing of Raniere’s nonsense. It serves only to show how manipulative he is and self-serving. I do, however, take issue with your relentless attack on prosecutors. I believe your current criminal case is clouding your judgment here. Maybe there is a bit of a Trump premature defense going on, meaning if you claim the prosecutors are corrupt, then you are innocent even if convicted. I am not challenging your innocence, just making an observation.
Prosecutors are held to a higher standard than other attorneys. Where defense attorneys can lie through their teeth as zealous advocates, prosecutors are bound to the truth. In my experience, the prosecutors I have encountered have taken this responsibility seriously. They have not prosecuted people they know are innocent. It’s important to mention how many DA’s offices have conviction integrity units to review convictions and assess a defendant’s potential innocence. I have not dealt with federal prosecutors so I cannot really speak to the practices of those offices. But I do know very fine and honest attorneys who went on to serve as federal prosecutors.
The truth is most prosecutors go into public service because they want to serve the community. To keep people safe from rapists, robbers, abusers and the like. Prosecutors get paid a fraction of the salary of private attorneys working in firms. A handful have political aspirations. Most do the job because they believe in fairness and justice. So please, stop with the sweeping baseless generalizations you are making about this profession.
Wait until you run into federal prosecutors. Your eyes will be opened. There are no integrity units and their careers are wholly dependent on conviction stats. Federal laws have draconian penalties. And the federal prosecutor is considered to be such a creature of integrity that to even consider checks and balances – something needed for every other species of government official from police to president – is blasphemous.
Keith’s Latest Rant Explained
A fissure has opened up in Kieth’s head and reality is pouring in. Keith is starting to realize he’s in his FOREVER HOME from which there is no escape.
Gone is the carefully crafted fortune cookie—word salad. Now we are being treated to philosophical gibberish.
Keith Raniere has become a character in a modern-day Kafka novel. The bitter irony of it all puts a smile on my face.
Keith’s life is officially Kafkaesque.
There is a lot of verifiable and objective destruction of the Nxivm community. What was the actual harm or damages that the Nxivm attackers suffered?
There are no ” Nxivm attackers”.
That’s a made-up thing. Like vampires.
There was a case brought by the government against Keith. He lost.
That’s a real thing.
Vampires??? A little bit of projection, eh Queef?
Frank’s losing his touch. Back in the good old days, 7 months ago, Frank would have posted a companion pic, to this article, of Keith Raniere in his vampire costume.
Frank if you’re reading this, you’ve gone soft. But I still love you.
That reminds me, Frank is looking younger these days. I wonder what his secret is?
Just can’t wait for all this to be over with 120 years. No more appeals, the jailer locks Keith’s cell door for the last time, turns around, and throws away the key. Poof…one less pedophile, rapist, sex offender, on the streets.
Then the world’s number one problem solver and East Coast Judo Champion can rot behind those bars – and the world will be a little bit safer place. He can be someone’s girlfriend in prison; he’ll be the belle of the ball in prison. Now that’s sweet justice.
Will he be able to orchestrate schemes through his minions if he’s not at Supermax?
If so, all this is almost in vain!
The real question is what minions will be moving to Arizona.
Def. Michele Hatchett
Def. Marc Elliot
Maybe Daniele Roberts
My Wild Card Pick is Mark Vicente. Mark followed Ramatha which is a cult that makes Scientology and Nxivm seem down to earth.
What’re your picks?
Don’t worry – its over right now. Keith has a better chance of being elected Pope than getting out of jail. All of this post-trial stuff is purely for our entertainment.
What a lot of nonsense. No one, other than persons in jail, is prohibited from continuing these “communities.” Rank-and-file NXIVM members are still free to associate with one another and continue their self-improvement or alleged philanthropic purposes. The organizations have only been “destroyed” as a money-making operation run by the RICO defendants.
If these continue to be posted, it will be a fascinating look into the mind of a serial manipulator. Already, note the hallmarks of fraud and illogic. In addition to the false catastrophizing about communities, we also see citations to unnamed sources that cannot be fact-checked (the study about criminal convictions), borrowing credibility (discussing psychological principles in a post that has nothing to do with them to create a patina of credibility for other stuff), and fantasy presented in a serious way (the allegory of vampires – how silly)
Thank you for pointing out that these people are free to do as they please. They can communicate with each other and have whatever “community” they want.
It’s really disturbing that Keith and the followers believe that they cannot carry on without him.
Over the years, quite a few of the closest women to Keith “died” (were killed?). And the community soldiered right on. Even branding pussies with Keith’s initials the day of memorial services for one fallen comrade.
I think “destroyed a community” is a garbage claim every time they whine about it.
And they are responsible for the impact on their community. DOS. Keith’s actions. Criminal behavior. Illegal handling of money etc. That is on them. No one else.
Take responsibility! A community is “destroyed” from within in this case. So, rebuild it if it matters so much to you Nxivm dead-enders.
Of course his co-defendants are innocent. For his attempted argument to work, they have to be because he will always consider himself so despite all of the evidence against him. He has to group them in with him to attempt to legitimize that they are in that 27% of defendants who take plea deals because of governmental pressure despite their innocence. And in dong so, his narcissism is once again on display because he was the only one who didn’t “cave” to government pressure to take a plea deal because he’s the Vanguard and must be innocent (of course), righteous (not self-righteous), and a martyr (but not playing one).
Along with attempting to play others for fools, he’s doing so with his codefendants because such a letter subtly delegitimizes their acceptance of guilt in this process, and he’s doing it in the self-interested and self-aggrandizing way in which he’s always gone about it.
You are spot on with that last paragraph Sultan. After acting like a man scorned and constantly out for revenge, does he think people are foolish enough to believe that he stands with those, from his inner circle, who provided evidence and testimony against him? For him, that is the ultimate betrayal and his words mean absolutely nothing.
—because such a letter subtly delegitimizes their acceptance of guilt in this process
I had not thought of that angle. Thanks for pointing it out.
—27% of defendants who take plea deals because of governmental pressure despite their innocence
This statistic is another example of Keith skewing the truth to make a point or argument sound valid.
The true statistic is 27% of the total exonerated defendants plead guilty.
I know it’s not your statistic! I just wanted to share the info with you.
TUCSON, Ariz. (NEWS10) — Convicted cult leader Keith Raniere has contracted the coronavirus. Raniere was transferred to a prison in Tucson, Ariz., in January.
His lawyers told NEWS10 ABC he started feeling symptoms shortly after being transported from New York and tested positive when he made it to Arizona.
“Keith is still recovering from his bout with COVID-19. Our understanding of the situation is that Keith began experiencing symptoms shortly after being transported from MDC but somehow did not test positive until arriving in Tucson. To put it lightly, his journey from New York to Arizona was grueling. Moreover, his legal team was unable to communicate with him for long periods of time. Be that as it may, Keith’s spirit remains unbroken and he seems to be recovering well.”
JOSEPH D. MCBRIDE, ESQ.
February 15, 2021
by: Carmen MacBeth
Is Keith Raniere actually innocent? Read his claims in a new letter
Now, Keith Raniere, who still maintains his innocence, is speaking out on his & their behalf. In an eight-part letter series obtained by Frank Parlato, the disgraced NXIVM leader outlines why he believes he’s innocent and why the women who were charged are blameless too.
Why publish the letter?
Frank Parlato prefaced Keith Raniere’s letter in The Frank Report by explaining why he was publishing it. After all, Parlato has published several stories on his blog against Raniere, his co-defendants, and NXIVM. He also addressed the opinion that he shouldn’t publish what Raniere & his followers have to say.
“Not to publish the central figure’s written views of his co-defendants, who were his followers, would seem to be a colossal failure to present the entire story”, Parlato argued. He also claimed that some of Keith Raniere’s co-defendants turned on him as part of their plea deals, naming Allison Mack & Lauren Salzman specifically.
“Of course, Raniere is saying he is innocent. What else would he say? He is also saying this after his conviction in a trial where he did not testify on his own behalf or put on any sort of defense. This is being published prior to the sentencing of four of his co-defendants. It is of course relevant.”
NXIVM leader Keith Raniere recovering from coronavirus
NXIVM leader sickened while serving sentence at federal prison in Arizona
Robert Gavin,Feb. 15, 2021
Raniere’s contracting of the coronavirus was first reported earlier this month by western New York blogger Frank Parlato.
Well, it’s official: The World’s Smartest Child Rapist™ has moved on from The World’s Smartest Defender of Child Rape™ and Harvard-Trained Blow Job Analyst™, Suneel Chakravorty.
Suneel has learned the hard way that first a narcissist love bombs, then they discard.
Suneel has thrown away his previously solid reputation as a Python coding instructor and now is best known on Google search as The Harvard-Trained Wiper of Clare Bronfman’s Buttocks™.
Suneel to Judge: ‘I Brought Clare Bronfman to and From the Bathroom, Lowering Her Down Onto and Raising Her up From the Toilet Seat’!
He could have just walked away from the train wreck and kept his head down, but, instead, he chased the shiny gold ring of his “Vanguard’s” attention and ended up getting literally shit on by NXIVM royalty.
Just you wait; when The World’s Smartest Child Rapist™ finds it convenient, he’ll be back to hoover Suneel with further promises to have his Avatar Baby.
If you aren’t familiar with what hoovering is about: https://thenarcissisticlife.com/narcissist-hoover-examples/
Maybe now would be a good time for Suneel to spend some time with his girlfriend in Canada.
Who could have seen this coming?
Sad, so sad.
I saw on Twitter people discussing that Keith had a bed of a dog in his room . Was that for punishment? Anyone know ?
How is Keith different than abusive Marilyn Manson ?
His ladies kept their vows. They were “Bad Ass.” AM.
Women in Nxivm were told if they acted like stereotypical bitchy-nagging women, they should sleep in a dog bed at night.
Totally fucked up uh?
The Albany Times-Union is still on the NXIVM beat.
Raniere is just now, in Tucson, getting over the Covid he caught in MDC Brooklyn.
Also more info about changes in his legal team.
I’m still cracking up 🤣
I think this very specific cuestión it’s very important on both sides of the story for an ethical process… What if I’m wrong?
What I see is that there is a side full of hate and it’s from Keith’s opposition, so I wonder how biased can a group be if they are full of hate?
On the other hand, I see another group of people kindly questioning due process.
If the justice system really cares about truth, then the justice system would be committed to seeing the other side of the coin they don’t see. What if they’re
wrong and convicted innocent people?! That’s the cuestión…
It’s not a question of “hate” or not. It’s just that the arguments about Keith not getting a fair trial are boring. And no one writing about it makes an intelligent or compelling argument. I’ve seen many articles explaining to his remaining followers why he got as fair a trial as any other and taking apart their arguments bit by bit— giving them logical explanations and posing questions about Keith that they could choose to debate and answer, and yet they always ignore key facts. And they don’t debate back with as high quality or as much knowledge and intelligence. It’s no fun to listen to people say the same brainwashed crap over and over in the same way.
If they offered something compelling, and if they acknowledged and intelligently debated the mountain of facts proving the opposite, I’d be interested. If they sounded as if they really knew about the law, I’d be interested.
But I’m not. Because they don’t. No one arguing that Keith should get another trial has done a good job.
It’s not about hate, it’s about boredom..? Exasperation..? Incredulity…? About the stupidity of that side of the argument.
Keith Raniere was justly convicted using lengthy and detailed victim impact statements. As per all this happy horseshit about speculating on the validity of his co-defendants’ choice to take a plea bargain? I’ve no doubt that they all feel they made the right move after seeing this creep get 120 years!!!!
It is helpful to see what Raniere is thinking. Thank you for sharing.
RICO is basically a “conspiracy” crime.
If Raniere’s co-defendants are innocent, then so is Raniere.
Raniere is advocating his own innocence.
Basically, Raniere is full of crap.
They are all guilty!
“Physician, heal thyself.” Luke 4:23 Keith needs to look in the mirror to locate the vampire. Maybe that’s why vampires supposedly can’t be seen in mirrors – bunch of narcissists that can’t see beyond their own image of themselves, they just imagine what they want to see.
Luke 4:23 [King James Version]
23 And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.
Luke 4 [King James Version]
4 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,
2 Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered.
3 And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread.
4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.
7 If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.
8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
9 And he brought him to Jerusalem, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down from hence:
10 For it is written, He shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee:
11 And in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
12 And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
13 And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from him for a season.
14 And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.
15 And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.
16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.
22 And all bare him witness, and wondered at the gracious words which proceeded out of his mouth. And they said, Is not this Joseph’s son?
23 And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.
24 And he said, Verily I say unto you, No prophet is accepted in his own country.
25 But I tell you of a truth, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elias, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, when great famine was throughout all the land;
26 But unto none of them was Elias sent, save unto Sarepta, a city of Sidon, unto a woman that was a widow.
27 And many lepers were in Israel in the time of Eliseus the prophet; and none of them was cleansed, saving Naaman the Syrian.
28 And all they in the synagogue, when they heard these things, were filled with wrath,
29 And rose up, and thrust him out of the city, and led him unto the brow of the hill whereon their city was built, that they might cast him down headlong.
30 But he passing through the midst of them went his way,
31 And came down to Capernaum, a city of Galilee, and taught them on the sabbath days.
32 And they were astonished at his doctrine: for his word was with power.
33 And in the synagogue there was a man, which had a spirit of an unclean devil, and cried out with a loud voice,
34 Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art; the Holy One of God.
35 And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him. And when the devil had thrown him in the midst, he came out of him, and hurt him not.
36 And they were all amazed, and spake among themselves, saying, What a word is this! for with authority and power he commandeth the unclean spirits, and they come out.
37 And the fame of him went out into every place of the country round about.
38 And he arose out of the synagogue, and entered into Simon’s house. And Simon’s wife’s mother was taken with a great fever; and they besought him for her.
39 And he stood over her, and rebuked the fever; and it left her: and immediately she arose and ministered unto them.
40 Now when the sun was setting, all they that had any sick with divers diseases brought them unto him; and he laid his hands on every one of them, and healed them.
41 And devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking them suffered them not to speak: for they knew that he was Christ.
42 And when it was day, he departed and went into a desert place: and the people sought him, and came unto him, and stayed him, that he should not depart from them.
43 And he said unto them, I must preach the kingdom of God to other cities also: for therefore am I sent.
44 And he preached in the synagogues of Galilee.
Why doesn’t he mention the toast as well? What am I supposed to do with a toaster if I don’t have toast? That is now at the top of my shopping list. Thanks, Keith.
Toast is not allowed in the DOS diet.
The world’s smartest man mixes up Cognitive Dissonance for Confirmation Bias. Guess it’s hard to get elementary-level psychology books in the clink.
I’m cracking up 😂
It’s neither one, it’s Raniere word salad.
Wah, I should have chosen the blender and not the toaster (or did I want the blender ?)
Wah, Cognitive Dissonance
Wah, I’m a convict who can only communicate with word salad
Wah, I’m a victim
Wah, wah, wah…
Wow. Keith is so very clearly writing about himself, and he either doesn’t get it, or he maybe does… ? And he’s that twisted..? Not sure, but wow.
Just skimming through his musings from the bottom up, here are some choice excerpts.
Keith: “Most people would not want to “wake up” and therefore would not want to evaluate their decisions. The words, “What if I am wrong?” will never be heard in their minds.”
Sounds like you don’t want to wake up Keith!
Keith: “Any person participating in this wrongdoing would tend to make excuses and blame rather than face these consequences. The conscience of one person in particular, the organizer and chief active proponent of this opposition, would bear much of this as weight and responsibility……Most people would not want to “wake up” and therefore would not want to evaluate their decisions. The words, “What if I am wrong?” will never be heard in their minds.”
Wow! Exactly! You’re making all kinds of excuses for where you are now and taking none of the responsibility!!
And then then the irony of these observations:
Keith: “As with our opponents, if destruction is the method of dealing with conflict (there are other methods), the more damage caused, the stronger the motivation to not re-assess the decisions to destroy. Thereby the damage will continue.”
Like all the damage you did to destroy the lives of the people who tried to leave? The endless litigations? Private detectives you hired..? Forcing people into bankruptcy? Keith, you weren’t very motivated “to re-asses” your obsession with “destroying” other people. What, can’t take it when the tables have turned? There were “other methods”! How about leaving people alone!?
And the last one I’ll mention:
Keith: “….27% of defendants who plead guilty may be factually innocent. This means that pleas are taken not by virtue, but as the lesser of two evils: the choice between the pain of going through trial and the pain of agreeing to a plea. This choice has little to do with truth.
A person can be innocent of the charges against them, yet the fear of the imperfect nature of our justice system (and a much longer sentence), compels this person to plea, taking a lesser sentence to be done with it. Nearly one out of three pleas may be taken under this type of duress.”
I just think of John Tighe with this one and I shake my head… tsk.. tsk… You can dish it out, Keith, but you sure can’t take it.
Absolutely spot on! Great post.
Once you know how the system works, it is driven by fear that you plead.
“A person can be innocent of the charges against them, yet the fear of the imperfect nature of our justice system (and a much longer sentence), compels this person to plea, taking a lesser sentence to be done with it. Nearly one out of three pleas may be taken under this type of duress”.
It does not mean you are guilty, but that at least you see a short sentence as a preferrable option.
Joshua, neither you nor Keith ever “see a short sentence as preferable”. Regrettably.
Evidently, a simple example (blender) seems to make a principle more understandable, but I guess like everything else relating to NXIVM, people are going to take it and make it bad.
The text is great. I think it would be good to take this text and use it to get to know Keith, instead of doing it through what others say of him.
Why would readers want to “get to know Keith”? It has no bearing on anything. Especially if you all really believe in non-emotional evaluation. As you constantly harp.
It is your opinion the “text is great”. In my opinion, it’s really lame, poorly written, and condescending. And way too long!
Most people understand the concepts Keith misused here better than Keith. We don’t need his mixed up appliance purchase and vampire diary analogies. God, he’s juvenile. Vampire Diaries?! For crying in the rain. Vampire Diaries!
Unfortunately, I can’t do anything with these allusions to any TV series, since I don’t know them and have better things to do with my time than comsuming shallow TV entertainment. How about a more general comparison that people who don’t know this series can relate to?
Google it. Or ask a teenager as I did when I couldn’t figure out what “vampire” tale he was referencing. Those teens sure love the vampires. I knew it was not Brahm Stoker.
And vampire diaries started as books. It sounds like you are pretty informed on TV shows.
Kristin Kreuk On Possibility Of ‘Smallville’ Reunion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a7008K9MSA
What are the chances for Mack to be there?
Frank, what’s the point of now being the cat teasing the mouse in a cage?
I tried to read this in full, I really did. When I got to the toaster v blender analogy as a means of explaining cognitive dissonance (“CD”), I stopped reading and just skimmed the rest. The analogy simply does not work. No one is emotionally invested enough in such items to suffer CD as a result. Perhaps if Raniere used a better analogy, I would have read further. CD requires an emotional investment, and mundane kitchen purchases do not meet that threshhold.
I have a challenge for Keith, should he read this and be willing – rewrite this, but using only short, concise sentences. Use one verb and one noun per sentence. No run-ons. K.I.S.S.
Ultimately, I agree that our criminal justice seems needs work – a lot of it. I am certainly willing to hear out Keith and his supporters. As the old, often mis-attributed quote goes, “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” Evelyn Beatrice Hall (not Voltaire).
—When I got to the toaster v blender…The analogy simply does not work. No one is emotionally invested enough in such items.
Clearly you’ve never owned a Thermador.
walk into a bar…
And what do they order in the bar and the vampire is vegetarian? Each a Bloody Mary.
And what does Vanguard order when he’s in the bar, too? A Virgin Mary.
Who’s the bartender? Is there a bartender?
Are we now your ‘Opps’ Keith? How very gang-gang of you, good to see you converging with prison culture and stepping up to say it with your chest instead of letting your dogs fight, which, the problem with your particular pedigree show types is as you say, high maintenance and they pine like hell when the master goes away, create a lot of mess and cannot fend for themselves.
Once you’ve removed the head of a snake, milked it for antidote venom, maybe tipped some arrows, thats it, unless as decoration, its pretty useless, the body is also of no use, unless you’re hungry or you want to make a little purse or trim some shoes or a bag.
The real life targets of your miniature evil empire loom large over your tale and render it meaningless. Real people who you really f*cked over in real life. The real reasons you are where you are.
Hey cultists, read this so you can believe you aren’t demented. But everything knows you are.
It’s another pile of bullshit to make you feel woke.
Thank you for sharing such a lucid and astute observation.
Hope all is well, good-buddy!
Under the law of conspiracy, the defendants are all guilty.
AUSA Penza clearly stated that of the top 150 members of NXIVM, half were guilty of criminal conduct and the other half were witnesses to criminal conduct.
Keith, you need to contact all the women who trusted you and have been hurt, and apologize to them.
Admit what you knowingly did to them, and give them the inner freedom to let you go.
If you really cared about any of them, you would do that.
Set all those women free so they can rebuild their lives.
Good luck in getting Raniere to sincerely apologize for anything. Judging by his past history, there could only be faux remorse interspersed with word salad verbiage.
Candidly, I would be surprised to see any of these current NXIVM acolytes, and even former members who spent years being indoctrinated in its philosophy (unless they achieved some helpful therapy), sincerely apologize for any wrong they’ve done to others since everyone must be “at cause” for a non-existent ultimate victimhood.
Mitch Garrity, if it’s you, I sincerely miss your comments, amigo.
Vanguard, if you discovered a cure for Tourettes, you need to do like Jonas Salk did with the Polio vaccine and make it free for the good of humanity.
Why are you keeping the cure to yourself?
FMN, this is they key question. They were NOT doing good things for anyone except perhaps a few paying members. Their pretense of “good intentions” is bull, as you so aptly pointed out with your very valid question.
For some reason, I have the Les Mis song “Empty Chairs and Empty Tables” going through my head.
Raniere lectures us, saying we must continually question ourselves, “Am I wrong?”
He ought to have taken his own advice. Like maybe, before he had women branded on their pussies with his initials.
Here’s a guy who had a recording made of himself telling his minion how the women of DOS were to be held down naked, “like a sacrifice” and branded with his initials. Lecturing us about morality. What an asshole.
And anyone who ever took his advice is a moron.
Wyze werdz summary of Federal Prisoner Number 57005-177
1) Some people who plead guilty aren’t guilty
2) There’s this thing called Cognitive Dissonance (aren’t you impressed I know that term?!)
3) Something about vampires
4) Every company I founded has been destroyed and there was nothing I could do to stop it
5) I am the chopped-off head of a snake
I have not stopped laughing at this… Please summarize the future installments. You have it nailed!
Great letter by Raniere. I know people will dislike me or think I’m brainwashed now but it really resonates with me so far. I agree with what he’s said so far. There are still many questions to be answered but let see the rest of it before I judge that part.
As usual, Anthony, you are a pinnacle of wisdom in waiting for more data rather than pre-judging the other posts by Raniere for which we are waiting with bated breath.
Having reviewed the constitutional and procedural issues raised in this missive, we are certain his new counsel will be able to secure his freedom as long as they take care not to fall prey to post hoc ergo propter hoc.
Ceteris paribus, we imagine this will occur in a matter of days, perhaps months at the most. We continue to warn the spewers of media hate bias that they face the threat of pro forma habeas corpus delicti post haste.
If you haven’t tried some of Marth’s coffee cake in the break room yet, Anthony, make sure you do. It is really moist and tasty!
Two Lawyers. Could you give your expert legal opinion on vampires, toasters and blenders (oh my) and whether this would have been a good defense in court?. Do you think Agnifilo discovered the jury perhaps were against kitchen appliances (some can start a lethal kitchen fire after all) and didn’t like Twilight so decided the defense was not a good idea? Many thanks for your time and say hi to Anthony from me the next time you see him at the water cooler.
How sad, that you are oblivious to the sociopathic patterns present throughout Raniere’s composition. This wordiness from him merely shows one thing. It shows that Raniere is delusionary, and not only about his criminal behavior. His self-perception is highly disorganized. Raniere still imagines that he is in a position of influence and power, is mentally and psychologically “above and beyond” the perception of others. He is still playing at being a leader. He is upset that he has not gotten his way.
None of Raniere’s disorganized emotionality is going to change his circumstances now.
Raniere does not even have the courage to face or even to mention the very acts for which he has been convicted at trial.
Instead, Raniere attempts to keep his disguise intact, as a “philosopher” who thinks “differently” and, he continues to claim that his ways are superior. In this way, he can ignore the sufferings which he has caused, along with his devotees.
Raniere sounds like what he is, a desperate and a pathetic individual without a conscience who ignores the severity of his (and his group’s) misdeeds. Many people have been harmed by these deeds. But Raniere doesn’t get it. He is not the only one who doesn’t get it, either.
Raniere is delusionary, to continue to imagine that he has anything to teach, to elucidate, to “explain.” He didn’t use any defense platform whatsoever in court. No defense of Keith Raniere was given at all, as we all know. Now, he haphazardly objects to what he has done to himself and ignores the harm that he has done to many, many others. (And so, it appears, do you also ignore this.)
That very DENIAL is because Keith Raniere could NOT fight the evidence given at his trial, not at all. He gave up that opportunity, knowing this was a battle that he could not engage in for even one minute, never mind being able to win. He HAD no defense.
Now perhaps Raniere will depend upon the sympathy of his fellow fools, a little something, some attention, keeping himself distracted, as Raniere is completely ill-equipped to face himself.
I did not read his MESS as Frank presented it here. I knew (already) the tack and the tactics which Raniere would be trying to use, and I chose not to review his hideous maladjustments or its verbiage. I know it all too well.
In fact, I had seen the behavior patterns of individuals similar to Raniere before Keith Raniere was even born, on August 26, 1960. And I am not joking, not at all.
Great article. Question, Mr. Parlato, does Mark Elliott really have or had Tourettes?
Yes Marc Elliot had Tourettes and he does not have it now. I have spent time with him and he clearly does not have Tourettes. Videos of him in the past, show that he clearly had it before. He attributes his cure to his applying what he learned in Nxivm into his own life.
Frank, I saw Marc speak at a Jewish youth group in the Midwest back in 2004.
He talked about his Tourettes but he said it was much less intrusive then it had been when he was younger. He focused more on his Crones disease (digestive disorder) and the obstacles and funny antidotes that went with that.
Throughout his entire speech which I remember as entertaining, he had already at this point seemed to overcome many of his difficulties with Tourettes because I saw no evidence of it over the hour long presentation.
I know that he still had it at this point but I think he may have overstated how much it afflicted him in later years to make it seem like his NXIVM “cure” was more profound then it was.
I think you should explore this Frank. Find out why and how, for all 12 of them, if there were indeed 12. Nancy might be best place to start. Or ask Keith himself.
If Raniere and Elliott have a cure for Tourettes, then shouldn’t the two be marketing it? People who have Tourettes suffering daily need this cure IMO.
This is a great question, but we should recognize that it has zero – zero – to do with the issue of Raniere’s guilt or anything else in his statement. We don’t give permission to commit crimes based on nice things you did before. If Mother Theresa killed a guy, her service to the poor would not be a defense.
We should also note that the NXIVM materials are in the public record and anyone can use them to cure Tourette’s. If they work, a person could become very, very wealthy by curing the disease. That the remaining NXIVM people aren’t doing that, but instead lobbying for Keith’s right to do it, suggests a faith healer scenario, and not a genuine scientific breakthrough.
Most of the points made in this post are equally applicable to both perspectives, they don’t mean much in themselves without presenting contradictory data / evidence. For instance, even if the claim 27% of those who plead guilty are factually innocent is true, it also means 63% of those who plead guilty are not factually innocent. The latter is a higher percentage than the former. Without supporting data, it would be invalid to use this statistic to make any points related to innocence or even guilt of anyone. It is useful only as measure to ensure we do a better job of false pleas. In order to conclude that the pleas made in this case were false, there needs to be proof, which has not yet been presented. I guess the only purpose of this post is to make the reader more open to whatever will be in the next post, as almost all the points here are moot.
I also agree with Joe O’Hara on Keith Raniere not having conducted himself in the manner he wants justice to be conducted. This is an important point to keep in mind while reading his next post.
So where do the other 10% stand in their innocence/guilt?
“The destruction is vast: the value of these entities, lost future contributions, and the loss and pain of thousands of people. Can you imagine “waking up” to this?” … KR’s most telling sentence, his ‘cri du coeur’. Except, like with a true narcissist, it is projected outwards. Will he ever have to courage to redirect it ‘inwards’, where it belongs? the value of innocent people (J. O’Hara, J.Tighe, Frank, etc.) and followers alike, their loss and pain, their childhood lost, their child-bearing years wasted, their health affected long-term, and more? Only when he himself has the courage to ‘wake up to himself’ will he take a step towards rehabilitation. He also talks about ‘if you can’t repair, don’t do it’. Reparations too often involve just money. In this case, no amount of money will ‘repair’ the destruction he seems to have wreaked on so many lives.
BEWARE! This is a set-up.
Keith is masterful with this. He is doing the same thing that Trump did when he claimed prior to the election that the only way he’d lose is if there were voter frauds. Like Trump, Keith is laying the groundwork to dispute any authenticity and genuine humility by Nancy, Lauren, Allison and Kathy should they accept their guilt.
Let’s be frank, Frank. You too are perpetrating an injustice against those survivors of Keith’s abuses by allowing him voice to spout off this preamble to the sentencing hearings that are forthcoming.
I implore you to stop here and do not print another word of Keith’s. By doing so, you are the abuser and you will have to live your life as supporting the abuse you actually claim to have shed light on. I pray you change direction and be a true first amendment advocate and supporter of human rights.
That means being judicious with the words you print in how they affect those who are reading. You are giving voice to a con man who is clearly continuing to con. Where is his genuine and authentic apology for the abuse of power and abuse of authority he has wrought?
Until that time, he cannot genuinely pose the question: what if you are wrong?
If word salad exists, this would be an example of it. It makes someone or something bad without any specific mention of what the “con” job is. Unconscious readers beware… this is the type of person who accuses others of doing a thing, while doing the thing themselves.
Skimmed it. Vampires and blenders.
And a bunch of other nonsense that sounds good-ish in theory but does not directly apply to this situation.
The only thing interesting to read from Vanguard and his followers would be the truth. Not this self-important, theoretical CW vampires diary twaddle.
I hope you post Joe O’Hara’s response as its own piece. That poor man. The truth of Raniere, as the supporters of Nxivm often post: “sad”. But this time, it really is!
Wow, it’s a good thing that the Vantard wrote all this; otherwise, Garaufis might be inclined to really drop the hammer.
Keith writes, “On the most basic level, there has been no stated act of “wrongdoing” or actual things destroyed by our community.”
That is a bald-faced LIE. Even before Keith was arrested, many of us still working actively to support what we thought were moral ideals within NXIVM stated emphatically that Keith had abused his power and authority.
His lies and obfuscation (similar to what he has just written) are what destroyed NXIVM. His abuses of power and authority destroyed NXIVM. Now he is trying to blame people who are not taken in any more by his manipulation. What a shame. And for all your justification for publishing this, Frank, it all falls on deaf ears. You have always been Keith’s promoter. You continue to stir the pot and you somehow believe (just like Keith) that you are serving. You are not.
I could not read a sentence past a defence of Cognitive Dissonance. That’s his defence?
That was his bread and butter tool to ruin people’s lives.
Where is the goddam like button?
Agree. I feel that way about many of the comments on this thread.
“The opposition aggresses upon us to destroy, and to destroy as globally as possible. This is their guiding principle. Most civilized groups accept instead, in the least, the basic tenets of “retaliatory force in equal measure” and ‘minimizing damage’.”
I can personally attest that although he may have written those words, they do not represent the way that Keith actually operated in the real world. In my case, Keith sought to destroy — and was, in fact, successful in destroying — everything I had achieved and built prior to my 15-month association with NXIVM/ESP. My businesses, my reputation, and even some of my professional and personal relationships.
And what was my transgression that caused Keith “to destroy, and to destroy as globally as possible” me and my life? Because I had the audacity to tell him and Nancy Salzman that I didn’t want to work for them anymore.
There was no attempt to use “retaliatory force in equal measure” or to “minimize damage”. Instead, there was a well-financed, multi-faceted campaign to destroy me as completely and thoroughly as possible.
While I may have some misgivings about the way that Keith was prosecuted and the sentence he received, I also see that there is a perfect balance in the way that Keith used the legal system to destroy others — and the way that the legal system was used to destroy him.
Perhaps over the course of his time in federal prison, Keith will come to the realization that he caused his own ruination. Perhaps not.
“Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap”. (Galatians 6:7)
PS/I fully expect to be bombarded with hateful comments from some of Keith’s supporters that accuse me of all sorts of things. Of course, those will only verify the inherent truth of my comment.
Oh yes, the supporters and their ‘hateful’ comments while accusing others of hate. I thought I would post in support of your comment to cancel one of theirs out!
It’s laughable ‘most civilized groups accept’. The levels of hypocrisy are astounding. He is an absolute compulsive liar. He will never admit he caused his own downfall. I actually think he is digging his hole deeper for himself and the remaining ones awaiting sentencing.
“I also see that there is a perfect balance in the way that Keith used the legal system to destroy others — and the way that the legal system was used to destroy him.” That’s actually a great way to look at things and why he will gain not one speck of sympathy from me.
Galatians 6 [King James Version]
6 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.
3 For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself.
4 But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
“A fool gives full vent to his spirit, but a wise man quietly holds it back. If a ruler listens to falsehood, all his officials will be wicked.” (Proverbs 29:11-12 ESV)
I too had to pass on reading yet another word salad from Keith, same crap different day. It’s bad enough reading the Followers drone on and on about Keith .
One of the worst things you can do for the victims of a narcissist is to continue to give him a platform to engage in his narcissism.
Isn’t it ironic (and unsurprising) that this clown talks about others not being able to admit to the wrong and destruction they have supposedly done to the “community” (cult) due to cognitive dissonance, while he sits in prison, convicted on all counts in a trial in which he didn’t take the stand to defend himself, where he refuses to admit to any of the wrongdoing he committed in the same breath? Whatever he says about them can equally apply to himself.
Has he even had a conscience to be turning it on and off like a vampire?
And this attempted emphasis on the claim that this community has done “so much good” is the same old evasive and trite tactic that doesn’t deny in any way the acts that he committed and was convicted for.
I have little sympathy for anyone who followed this man. What an unconvincing argument.
My suggestion is for Raniere’s prolix lyrics to be preceded by a brief summary of everything he writes, before his own text, for those who are tired of putting up with Raniere’s full-length, meaningless verbiage.
Hi, how’s the weather? The weather here is like all weather, yet different.
That is, however, nothing to do with me.
Only you are responsible. Try to see my point. See how big it is?
Now the world hates me. This is the world’s responsibility.
This hate occurs within them. It is not me or any of my wimmens’ fault at all. We have only been too advanced for these poor, disintegrating souls, who have NOW ruined existence.
Skincerely, Keith Rainrear
P.S. This is all the criminality of Nancy Salzman, mixed with my enlightenment. For she hypnotized me, made me call her “Mommy.” Nancy went back to being Adolf Hitler. And then she laid a hell of a waist, er, waste to mankind.
She alone is responsible for recruiting Mexico into the cartel lifestyle, via sexual abuse and linguistic hypnotics.
I am only trying to help you.
LMFAO 😂 Shivani
Thank you for your time in composing your comment. Please go to the Top of the Class. Truly inspired. Plus, Hilarious.
I knew his sentencing “remorse,” was fake.
The pompous faux-intellectualizing is getting old…the man doesn’t have a moral
bone in his body and any logical person will see his disingenuous attempts to prove his own ‘innocence’
I couldn’t read it. When he started talking about Cognitive Dissonance, I started asking myself: who the hell does he think he is? This guy calls himself a “scientist” but failed to follow scientific methodology, leading one of his doctors to lose a medical license.
There’s no scrutiny by peers. There’s no legitimate scientific methodology.
You don’t operate in a vacuum when you’re molding people’s lives, “Vanguard”.
This is more rambling word salad, and sadly, a lot of victims fell for this shit.
I have a distaste for the drivel of Raniere, in which what he says – and what he has done and is responsible for – create a huge dissonance. This dissonance can’t be resolved with as much wordplay as Raniere tries. Facts and statements of Raniere do not fit the reality, what is present here and what has happened.
Yes. Fell for his psycho babble nonsense in a big way. Big way. Of course, there will be a number of people who were “Vanguarded” but will continue to conceal that because of not wishing to appear to be on the losing side. Naturally, they will have bought & paid for that secrecy. Which is a bit of a shame as those who are in the Public Arena, selling thoughts or actual products, should be known about. I know one such person is Sir Richard Branson of the Virgin global empire. I wonder if Donald Trump took any courses…
Oh, lordy. Toasters and vampires. Perhaps he needs to be in an asylum. He sounds like he is unraveling even further mentally. Hopefully, the routine and stability of living with fellow perverts in his forever home will soothe him.
Frank, where are you getting all of these articles? How are we supposed to believe this is authentic if you don’t even mention its source?
I have to admit, Anna, I hardly believe anyone would write such a ridiculous bunch of nonsense too.
That was not what I was implying in my comment. K is a brilliant man.
I love the sarcasm, Anna. You have me cracking up with your funny questions and comments. I hope you and Snorlax post more often.
I obviously did not read all of this. It was too long and rambling. It would benefit from having headers. I think Keith got used to his cult really caring about what he said and so he could just ramble on and on like a philosopher. But he is a convicted felon now. People don’t want to spend time hearing what he has to say (why learn from such a loser?).
Dear Keith, make your messages short and sweet. Nobody really cares. Not enough.
I would be interested in hearing more about Frank and how he beat you – or how Roger Stone is currently doing and what he thinks of the impeachment, etc.
I don’t care about Keith and if we read anything from Keith, it should be something short and quick.