Amway Works in Chile (and, No, I Am Not Chinese!)

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By Nicolas Nazal

First I want to clarify that I am Chilean [and not Chinese as Scott Johnson assumed] and I apologize for my English.

The statement that 90% of sales in the Asian market come from customers is not true. This statement was a mistake in the writing and interpretation of what I wanted to write.

Amway statistics indicate that in Asia most of the billing comes from real customers, but it does not reach 90% like my own Amway business in Chile.

Let’s remember that we are talking about averages together with a punctual result that is my own.

In any case, my business and the average of Asians is a total success considering that Amway does not pay to recruit people.

When I say that 90% of the money that comes into my business comes from customers, I am saying:

1) This is true for my business and I regret that other Amway businesses are not like this, however I congratulate the Asian market because they are doing the right thing.

2) Of the total distributors of my business, only 30% really do something to grow their business. In this 30% of distributors, most of my distributors have five or more clients who buy from them.

3) Remember that Amway does not pay to get people in.

4) Most of my distributors are young people who do not work and whose only form of income is this business, so they cannot buy for themselves.

5) Because my business depends on 90% of real clients, there are times when very few people enter my business and even so the billing remains stable. This is a sign of a healthy business done with real clients.

The danger of talking about averages and doing simple math with this business is that it includes within the same bag the majority who really do nothing to grow their business, with a small percentage of people who are intermittent and abandon, along with the small group of people who really make a constant effort and who do have results.

In this way you cannot simply divide Amway’s total income among the 3 million distributors, because from there a very small percentage really makes a real effort to grow their business.

The vast majority do not really deserve to receive anything because they do nothing. In fact, because in my organization my wife and I are the ones that do our best, it would be tremendously unfair for a Robin Hood to come and take money from us to distribute it among the 60% of the people on my team who really don’t deserve it .

Apart from this information, I can recommend that you better investigate Amway’s compensation plan, as you clearly lack information on how the money is distributed.

In Chile the income level of 9%, which is an achievement that can even be done with a single person, is easily enough to pay the house bills.

Upon reaching 15% compensation Amway pays you the equivalent of what 70% of the professional population of Chile earns ($647 dollars).

My wife and I are currently 21% Platinum (compensation plan for Latin America) and within our organization we have a 22-year-old boy who is Platinum Ruby, which means that he earns more money than we do and so we can feel very proud because he resolved his life thanks to the invitation and help that we dedicated to him.

Yes, we work a lot; we also argue with people like you and we also had problems, but we, unlike most of the people who take this opportunity, go ahead and build a system. We are nothing compared to the Asian market, but at least in my country, my wife today earns between 2 and 3 times what she earned in her job.

Finally, I want to clarify that I am using my real name, you can find me on Facebook, Linked-in and Instagram and my statements are based on experience and not on assumptions.

My results in the business speak for themselves. That is why, apart from clarifying this situation, I do not care about the opinion of the people.

Be happy with what you think you know.

But I have the results.


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  • Amway works everywhere, for Amway and the high-level scamming distributors. Everyone else gets f*cked over. LOL

  • Sadly Scott Johnson is so delusional…

    ….He doesn’t understand Nicholas has exposed Scott as a jealous liar.

    In many ways, Scott’s persona is that of a jilted lover……

    Scott Johnson is like a woman scorned…

    Hell hath no fiery like a woman (Scott) scorned.

    It’s a fitting end to a racist hedonist who frequents New Orleans Tranny Brothels.

  • Scott Johnson is a fraud!

    I knew it.

    How did Scott confuse Chile with China?

    Maybe Scott is mentally challenged after all?

  • Mr. Nicolas Nazal,

    Re Amway & Scott Johnson:

    Except article!!!!!

    I want to thank you for taking the time to address the many lies Scott Johnson has told about Amway.

    I believe Scott Johnson suffers from envy, grandiosity, and entitlement.

    Scott Johnson believes wrongly, like most welfare recipients, that the world owes him something. Scott fails to understand just because he lives in America it doesn’t mean everything comes easy.

    Scott looks to blame others for his failures. He believes wrongly that people like yourself Nicolas are either lucky or dishonest.

    Scott does not understand how hard you work!!!!!

    Amway is in over a dozen countries, generates billions of dollars a year, and has literally minted thousands of millionaires!!! What’s wrong with that? It’s the American Dream.

    Mr. Nazal you have helped people and made yourself some money. “God helps those who help themselves.” You are a good man Mr. Nazal…..

    …..Scott Johnson is just an average lazy person looking for easy money. Scott wants to be rich without any of the hard- work and sacrifices.

    Nicholas as you pointed out people like Scott believe they are smarter than the FTC; and rather ironically Scott claimed he is “smarter than the FTC.”

    Scott has an ego problem and does not understand his average intelligence and mediocre sales talent leads nowhere.

    Scott Johnson is jealous of individuals like yourself, who work hard and are talented.

    Mr. Nazal I wish America had more people like you instead of the lazy people like Scott Johnson looking to get rich without doing any work.

    Take care Mr. Nazal!!!!!

    You are living the American dream in Chile!!!!!!

    • Except article!!!!! — Except article?” What does that even mean? LOL

      I want to thank you for taking the time to address the many lies Scott Johnson has told about Amway. — I want to thank you for again ignoring the facts and accepting unsubstantiated claims, you would make a grat Amway IBO. LOL

      I believe Scott Johnson suffers from envy, grandiosity, and entitlement. — I believe Scott Johnson knows and uses documented facts and you don’t. LOL

      Scott Johnson believes wrongly, like most welfare recipients, that the world owes him something. Scott fails to understand just because he lives in America it doesn’t mean everything comes easy. — Scott Johnson has never been on welfare and believes the world owes him nothing. YOU fail to understand that Amway and other MLMs are scams. LOL

      Scott looks to blame others for his failures. — Scott looks to blame documented scam artists, what’s wrong with that? LOL

      He believes wrongly that people like yourself Nicolas are either lucky or dishonest. — Nicolas provided zero evidence, only undocumented claims, regarding his “success.” Scott on the other hand provided documented facts. LOL

      Scott does not understand how hard you work!!!!! — Scott understands how hard he works, for a SCAM! LOL

      Amway is in over a dozen countries, generates billions of dollars a year, and has literally minted thousands of millionaires!!! What’s wrong with that? It’s the American Dream. — Amway is in over a hundred countries scamming people, has generated less volume for 5 of the past 6 years, and has literally minted tens of millions of scammed people. What’s right with that? It’s the exact opposite of the American dream. LOL

      Mr. Nazal you have helped people and made yourself some money. “God helps those who help themselves.” You are a good man Mr. Nazal….. — Nazal is clueless, and so is NiceGuy, regarless of the number he puts behind his fake name. LOL

      …..Scott Johnson is just an average lazy person looking for easy money. — Scott is a FAR above average person looking to help others not get scammed by Amway and other MLM scams. LOL

      Scott wants to be rich without any of the hard- work and sacrifices. — Scott is doing just fine financially and in many other ways. LOL

      Nicholas as you pointed out people like Scott believe they are smarter than the FTC; and rather ironically Scott claimed he is “smarter than the FTC.” — Scott has also pointed out WHY he is smarter than the FTC, but you’re too stupid to understand. LOL

      Scott has an ego problem and does not understand his average intelligence and mediocre sales talent leads nowhere. — Scott understands that you’re too stupid to understand anything above a three year old daycare level of instruction. LOL

      Scott Johnson is jealous of individuals like yourself, who work hard and are talented. — Scott is not jealous of anyone. LOL

      Mr. Nazal I wish America had more people like you instead of the lazy people like Scott Johnson looking to get rich without doing any work. — Scott wishes America had more people willing to get the word out regarding Amway and other MLM scams, but is quite happy that social media is starting to do this in an amazing manner. LOL

      Take care Mr. Nazal!!!!! — Take care, NiceGuy, it must be wonderful to be so clueless. LOL

      You are living the American dream in Chile!!!!!!” — It will become a nightmare when Amway is shut down. LOL

  • This appears to be the guy: https://www.picuki.com/profile/nicolas.i.nazal

    First I want to clarify that I am Chilean [and not Chinese as Scott Johnson assumed] and I apologize for my English. — I already identified the original error I made, see the original story comment section.

    The statement that 90% of sales in the Asian market come from customers is not true. This statement was a mistake in the writing and interpretation of what I wanted to write. — No big deal, I don’t think it occurs in any country.

    Amway statistics indicate that in Asia most of the billing comes from real customers, but it does not reach 90% like my own Amway business in Chile. — Amway doesn’t publish those statistics, but they do lie about them, from the very highest levels: https://stoptheamwaytoolscam.wordpress.com/devos-lies-van-andel-nods-his-head-in-agreement/

    Let’s remember that we are talking about averages together with a punctual result that is my own. — I’m sure you’d be willing to produce records of results, right?

    In any case, my business and the average of Asians is a total success considering that Amway does not pay to recruit people. — Amway doesn’t pay directly when someone is recruited, but they do pay by virtue of people not being given the option of joining without buying products and most aren’t presented that option.
    They also get paid when the new IBO buys the tools.

    When I say that 90% of the money that comes into my business comes from customers, I am saying: — Say whatever you want, until you show the records I say you’re a liar.

    1) This is true for my business and I regret that other Amway businesses are not like this, however I congratulate the Asian market because they are doing the right thing. — I agree having a Direct Selling model is much less subject to abuse, as happened to AdvoCare last year, when they were forced into that model, and a couple of other MLMs dropped their distributors completely and now the company sells directly to the customers (Javita and Waiora), all under pressure from the FTC.

    2) Of the total distributors of my business, only 30% really do something to grow their business. In this 30% of distributors, most of my distributors have five or more clients who buy from them. — Do the other distributors buy the products? How can 30% of your distributors having a handful of clients come anywhere close to 90% of the volume coming from non-distributor customers?

    3) Remember that Amway does not pay to get people in. — Remember that they do, see above.

    4) Most of my distributors are young people who do not work and whose only form of income is this business, so they cannot buy for themselves. — Unemployed? Who is this guy’s upline? He’s either a liar or a very rare outlier. Explain your upline’s tool scam system. What do they promote, how much are the costs, etc.?

    5) Because my business depends on 90% of real clients, there are times when very few people enter my business and even so the billing remains stable. This is a sign of a healthy business done with real clients. — I’m sure all of those unemployed young people who can’t afford to buy the products for themselves have lots of customers.

    The danger of talking about averages and doing simple math with this business is that it includes within the same bag the majority who really do nothing to grow their business, with a small percentage of people who are intermittent and abandon, along with the small group of people who really make a constant effort and who do have results. — I agree with this, it is one of my pet peeves with other critic “experts.”

    In this way you cannot simply divide Amway’s total income among the 3 million distributors, because from there a very small percentage really makes a real effort to grow their business. — I agree with this as well.

    The vast majority do not really deserve to receive anything because they do nothing. — I agree with this as well, and those who don’t do much don’t make any/much money.

    In fact, because in my organization my wife and I are the ones that do our best, it would be tremendously unfair for a Robin Hood to come and take money from us to distribute it among the 60% of the people on my team who really don’t deserve it . — I agree.

    Apart from this information, I can recommend that you better investigate Amway’s compensation plan, as you clearly lack information on how the money is distributed. — I forget more about Amway’s compensation plan than you’ll ever know, including the tool scam.

    In Chile the income level of 9%, which is an achievement that can even be done with a single person, is easily enough to pay the house bills. — That depends on the structure of the downline. As you said above, “I can recommend that you better investigate Amway’s compensation plan, as you clearly lack information on how the money is distributed,” regarding width, depth, number and volume consumed by IBOs and customers, etc. The overhead costs also matter. You are smart, what are the typical overhead costs? A business isn’t successful because of gross profit, only as a result of the net profit, which is gross profit minus ALL overhead costs. Amway likes talking about the former, but not the latter.

    Upon reaching 15% compensation Amway pays you the equivalent of what 70% of the professional population of Chile earns ($647 dollars). — This website states the average of ALL Chileans is about $800/month: https://chileinenglish.cl/incomes-in-chile/ and the conversion rate hasn’t changed that much since 2016. One would think the professional population makes at least twice that amount, or about $1,600/month.

    My wife and I are currently 21% Platinum (compensation plan for Latin America) and within our organization we have a 22-year-old boy who is Platinum Ruby, which means that he earns more money than we do and so we can feel very proud because he resolved his life thanks to the invitation and help that we dedicated to him. — What is your net profit? What is your 22 year old boy’s net profit?

    Yes, we work a lot; we also argue with people like you and we also had problems, but we, unlike most of the people who take this opportunity, go ahead and build a system. — You don’t argue with people like me, most critics don’t have a clue what they’re talking about.

    We are nothing compared to the Asian market, but at least in my country, my wife today earns between 2 and 3 times what she earned in her job. — Gross or net earnings?

    Finally, I want to clarify that I am using my real name, you can find me on Facebook, Linked-in and Instagram and my statements are based on experience and not on assumptions. — You should also use your real numbers and back up your statements with documented facts. I have tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of facts, or more, on my websites.

    My results in the business speak for themselves. — Except you don’t say much.

    That is why, apart from clarifying this situation, I do not care about the opinion of the people. — I don’t care about your opinion or incomplete facts, either.

    Be happy with what you think you know. — I know what I know, and my websites back up what I know with documented sources. I was an active IBO from 1993 until 2005, was an “underground” IBO from 2005-09, and have researched Amway’s scam since 2005. Be happy with your limited knowledge.

    But I have the results. — I have the facts. You hide them. That’s what scam artists do.

    • Nazal might want to update the Amway wiki if what he’s saying is true.
      https://www.amwaywiki.com/Amway_Chile

      I hear you on averages, but the intent is revealing revenue generation. If these are truly satisfied preferred customers masquerading as distributors and it’s stated that it’s very easy to meet the monthly PV/BV to remain active, why aren’t they all reaching this level on average? This is not earnings, these are revenues per distributor.
      https://www.directsellingnews.com/company-profiles/amway/

      • The Amway wiki website should also point out that many of those names were a “one and done” accomplishment. In other words, they achieved the level shown for a short period of time and then fell back to a lower level.

        Amway only counts distributors, they have no idea how many customers there are. If you’re familiar with the Herbalife saga, they were astounded with all of the new-found information they had when the FTC forced them to track and document customers. They were so proud of how they had information that no other MLM had, yet it is the most obvious thing for a business to keep track of. LOL

        • If you are familiar with Herbalife case, Bill Ackman lost money on this one and none of the predictions he made has come true. In other words, Herbalife just separated customers from distributors (which is basically a paperwork) and the company is still running. Now that you cannot blame Herbalife of not having real customers, you try to do the same with Amway? C’mon. You don’t mean it, do you?

          • Scott is very familiar with the Herbalife case, Scott even spoke with Ackman a few times, as well as his attorney. Just because Ackman lost money does not make his efforts a total loss. Herbalife was fined over $200 million, they were forced to show auditable records of customer receipts, have to pay an auditor for seven years to verify their customer claims, and can’t pay their distributors a bonus unless they reach certain levels of customer volume. So, while it didn’t turn out as Ackman would have liked, it shone a bright light on the MLM scam world. Scott thinks Herbalife is still cheating. He even offered to help the auditor uncover the cheating techniques, but they declined his help.

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