A NXIVM source leaked to me information that suggests that Clare Bronfman may have been very busy while in Clifton Park this past week. Not only was she there to work on new filings in her lawsuit against me – but it seems she was busy visiting and quite possibly mobilizing her remaining followers to action (Not surprisingly, neither of these activities were included in her request to Judge Nicholas G. Garaufiregrading the trip).
I will have more on this later – including a list of names. My confidential source within NXIVM leaked this information under great risk that if (s)he was discovered (s)he might be more than sued.
(S)he said that the remaining members of NXIVM cult are now communicating through an encrypted program called Telegram.
They are always on their Telegram program, [used on cell phones] and have a network led by Esther Chiappone Carlson for Albany/Clifton Park and Omar Boone for Monterrey, Mexico.
Some of them use aliases and it was not immediately clear who, while she was in Clifton Park [or at other times], Clare Bronfman has been in contact with them via Telegram
This could be a violation of her bail conditions.
Curiously, while she was in Clifton Park – Clare’s followers on the Telegram group – suddenly all went off line – for extended periods – a rare occurrence indeed.
My source said it was because they were meeting in person with Bronfman. This is not necessarily a violation for Bronfman if her traveling companion/attorney, Kathleen Cassidy, was present.
I will have more on this later – but I have learned and was shown evidence that Esther Chiappone Carlson and Omar Boone use two different Telegram accounts. Esther is evidently using Omar’s old cell phone number.
After Keith Raniere’s arrest in March and the FBI raids on Nancy Salzman’s home and Raniere’s library, immediately following, Bronfman took over leadership of NXIVM and DOS commanding [and paying] remaining followers.
Some believe her uncompleted work was to hide evidence, coordinate stories and intimidate witnesses and defectors – and was the main reason she has made repeated request to be freed from home detention and permitted to freely mix with NXIVM members on the stripe path.
There are those who disagree and believe she is sincere in her pledge to follow all the rules concerning her bail and would never lie to the courts.
The entire NXIVM contingent and most of the Mexican members went off Telegram during much of the two days Bronfman was in Clifton Park. That’s certainly very curious and bears investigation.
When Bronfman was arrested on July 24th, she was suddenly prohibited from implementing orders via direct contact with followers except in the presence of her attorneys.
Prior to her arrest, she retained attorney Dennis Burke, the former US Attorney for Arizona who left his position n disgrace after his role was revealed in the US Fast and Furious illegal gun running and cash smuggling operations that some believe involved Mexico’s crime family boss of all bosses – Carlos Salinas – who is close to Burke.
Burke has been accused by some of the potential witnesses in the upcoming NXIVM trial of trying to intimidate them or their attorneys.
I can’t believe Esther is still around after Jim Del Negro was either the rapee or raper (depending on whose account you believe) of a young Phillipino mother back in 2008.
Esther was initially so smitten with Keith she offered to finance a biographical film project Keith wanted me and my ex to produce. When I politely declined and mentioned Keith hadn’t really accomplished anything feature film worthy to that point in his life, Esther went on about the “top secret government projects” she believed Keith consulting on.
One of those sounded suspiciously similar to a telecommunications system project my ex was working on with Carlos Slim and Alvin Toffler in Mexico that was not secret, nor government related to my knowledge.
I suppose I should have guessed then that Gina may have hacked our computers at home — where Keith got this idea he was using to “Bluebeard” on ladies like Esther — but I guess I’m a little slow in the uptake sometimes.
Hope Esther’s having fun playing with all the Telegram spy gear. With those cheekbones she could’ve played a Russian spy in Keith’s movie.
Heidi, since you haven’t replied to my comment on an earlier thread, I’ll repeat it (again) here: No need to write a Nerium story, I’ve seen the Nerium lawsuit stories, they are numerous and wide-ranging: https://behindmlm.com/search-results/?q=nerium
As far as coming on the show, you are welcome to do so. Let’s talk sometime this week prior to the show. I’ll be in the Pacific time zone, and available generally from 4-7 am and after 6 pm. We can use Skype or a freeconferencecall.com number I have, and if you dial *67 first, you don’t have to give up your own phone number. Either way, you’re protected, so just tell me which you prefer and I’ll get you the details. The show is at 8:30 pm Eastern time on Saturdays. If you prefer, you can also email me at stoptheamwaytoolscam (at) yahoo (dot) com to exchange information.
By the way, I’m always nice, sometimes it just doesn’t shine through my dry humor.
I’m not aware of any reason for getting arrested, so I think we’re okay there.
Wouldn’t the high cheekbones make her American Indian? That’s what Pocahontas, aka Elizabeth Warrn says.
I have high cheek bones, as do many of my relatives, and we are of Eastern European descent. I think prominent cheekbones are common with several ethnic groups….I’m more interested in this story about Keith consulting on top secret government projects. Esther really believed Keith was telling the truth about this? Don’t you think Keith was just bullshitting her?
I seriously doubt that JDN was either raped or a rapist. Said it before, and I will say it again. He is far to soy to manage it, and everybody (except the two people who were having sex and their significantly others) seem to be clearly resolved that it was consentual cheating.
I don’t see why JDN running around Saratoga with a much younger Asian woman would have any effect.
I almost want to feel sorry for Esther, but she has stuck around so long, she basically deserves whatever she gets at this point.
What is “to soy”?
I guess it’ssupposed to say ‘too soy’. What exactly do mean by being “too soy” to commit rape? I’m not sure what being ‘soy’ is supposed to imply about a person.
Feel better ? I doubt it.
Heidi, when do you expect Heidi hacked your computer? What year do you think this happened, and how do you think was she able to that? Keylogger? Logging into your emails?
Sorry.. that should say Gina, not Heidi.
Hope you were able to understand what I meant.
Heidi, it’s curious that you have any involvement with Clare Bronfman at all. Your sister died in February 2002, and Clare did not became involved with NXIVM until 2003. In spring 2002 she was in Europe, still participating in equestrian competitions.
Yet, you followed Clare on twitter and you claim to have inside knowledge on this real estate deal, which happened after your sisters death. Why were you involved in this if you were not a NXIVM member?
Esther didn’t have the kind of money to support any kind of film deal. Esther couldn’t make ends meet and took in roommates to help support herself and her 4 kids.
If Esther was involved with any kind of film plot it was someone else’s mone.
The Secret American Origins of Telegram and its ties to the Islamic State.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2015/11/23/the-secret-american-origins-of-telegram-the-encrypted-messaging-app-favored-by-the-islamic-state/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f62ab983277a
This is illegal spying on people. How dare you write about what people do or don’t do. This is deadly Wrong and Clare and Esther and Omar have the same rights to privacy. No one has been convicted of anything. Clare is innocent and your constant attempts to make her into a bad person will backfire against you. Just wait your time is coming MR smarty pant. That’s not a threat. But Clare has a lot of money and supporters. So don’t think you’re just going to write such private information and illegally too. Your time in the barrel is coming MR Smarty Pantaloony. And you people who read this are equally guilty and should boycott this illegal website.
“Mr. Smarty Pantalooney?” I love this woman! Hilarious. Post on, granny, please!
So many women left their spouses and brought children into a cult with a verified pedophiliac. Many of these women had no problem with vanguard being a child rapist, even recruiting children for him. I wonder how safe their own children were, he may have recruited mothers just to access the girls. It happens to single mothers all the time. Any rumors the feds are following up on the child rape charges already out there?
What is Telegram and is it really secure?????????
Telegram is an end-to-end encryption system for telephones .invented in RUSSIA
It was launched in 2013.
Telegram was invented by the Durov brothers Nikolai and Pavel.
The Durov Brothers had a dispute with Vladimir Putin and now live in BUFFALO, NEW YORK.
It is unclear if Telegram is 100% secure.
https://www.csoonline.com/article/3273344/privacy/what-is-telegram-and-is-it-secure.html
I wonder if the NXIVM slaves opened up the dungeon and brought out the whips and chains for Cruella Bronfman’s benefit.
The question is not whether it is 100% secure or not. No system is 100%. Encryption increases the effort it takes to make the chat readable. This is why the NSA does not want ordinary citizens to use working encryption systems as it would make it impossible to read all the stuff in real time. The same stuff happens when you use tools to hide IP addresses and whatnot.
The court does not have to read it if they have enough information already. It would be a shame to waste millions of $ to get the latest vegan recipes and vacation pics.
— Esther told me early on she had divorced her husband and moved her 4 kids from Alaska to Clifton Park thinking she was going to be Keith Rainer girlfriend
I have no sympathy for stupid people like this.
Esther Chiappone Carlson talked several times about leaving what was than Executive Success Programs. Esther told me early on she had divorced her husband and moved her 4 kids from Alaska to Clifton Park thinking she was going to be Keith Rainer girlfriend. His only girlfriend. The thing back then, Esther didn’t want to share lover boy and bowed out of having Keith as her boyfriend or being his sex toy.
The inner circle must have something over her head (this was years before DOS) to keep her involved to this day. I heard she ended up with Jim Del Nigro as her boyfriend. Jim followed Nancy Salzman around like a puppy dog after he divorced his wife Shelley. Salman must of used her NLP and hypnosis skills on Jim to turn what was a decent man into who he’s become today.
Jim Del Nigro parents wrote a letter to the Judge in this case pleading with him to not give VanStripes bail.
Keith has likely been collecting collateral since the early days, how else to explain decent people becoming Nxivm ghouls? Who would stick around to be treated like a dog or a fuck toy by such an arrogant lying nerd? As cheap as Clare was I doubt the money was enough.
Is Jim still living with Esther? I heard he was seen recently strolling arm in arm through Saratoga Springs and giggling with a women that is not Esther – a much younger woman of Asian decent.
https://www.csoonline.com/article/3273344/privacy/what-is-telegram-and-is-it-secure.html
How much confidential information did Nxivm steal from Edward SR and other family members during their hacking campaign. And why were they never charged with hacking public officials, judges family members. This info should be in the reams being gone through by the feds.
Clare has surely had someone off the radar watching for defectors the past several months. Surely feds were monitoring this meeting?
It’s illegal to monitor meetings that are covered by attorney-client privilege.
Now, if the attorney is helping someone engage in illegal activity, I don’t think it would be covered by privilege.
Very true, Heather. I KNOW the hacking started way back when we were hacked starting in ‘97 -2000. Keith had a couple geeky RPI pals and Karen U. (the one with the true genius IQ) hacking away, mentoring my sister Gina at it. They were targeting the likes of Bishop Desmond Tutu, the Dalai Lama, monks Gina knew from KTD Woodstock to India, to the Albany DA and Northern District FBI offices, all the judges in their cases, Rabbis, the WJC….Narcissistic psychopathy knows no bounds!
But will this investigation ever go there? Depends on what pops up I suppose. Good thoughts, thanks,
Sunny ways my friends, just different rules for the financial elite.
The Paradise Papers show damning evidence of Justin Trudeau’s financial corruption.
Michael K. Spencer
New leak reveals 3,000-plus Canadians, including direct ties to Justin Trudeau involved in tax haven, tax evasion fraud and related loop holes.
It’s Who You Know
Canadian businessman Stephen Bronfman, a close friend of and fundraiser for Justin Trudeau, identified in the Paradise Papers, makes Justin Trudeau’s rise to power a tarnished success for a party that had a decade long rebuilding program to win back Canadian trust.
The same chief fundraiser, who helped him rise to power, moved millions of dollars into offshore tax haven. CBC’s the National covered the Paradise Papers and the Montreal link, and it damages the credibility of Justin Trudeau in a major way. It portrays Trudeau as a sort of puppet of the financial elite of Canada, that rose to power solely on his personal connections. O’ Canada!
That Justin Trudeau’s closest close adviser helped move huge sums offshore shows the financial elite and politicians continue to play by different rules.
Justin Say it Ain’t So — Good Looking, Rich and Corrupt?
The Guardian has brought the Paradise Papers to global attention, and it’s really another bombshell of how the financial elite play outside the rules of the system, finding loopholes to store their funds.
When you are the son of a former Prime Minister you have a responsibility to not only come from the privilege big boys club; but it appears Justin’s close family connections entirely shaped his career in politics.
Bronfman, is an heir to the Seagram family fortune and a close Trudeau family friend, was revenue chair of the Liberal Party. So what’s the issue? The Liberals won by launching a federal election campaign, with a sweep victory with the motto “Real Change”, a platform that especially focused on the middle class and a promise to tax the rich. This kind of rhetoric that’s the exact opposite of your fundraising, is a red flag for a national leader.
Justin Trudeau conducted a great campaign especially on social media and appealing to Millennials (younger voters). Ironically, this will be the same generation where the Paradise Papers revelation could seriously damage trust in the Liberal Party and Trudeau’s chances in 2019.
Stephen Bronfman.
The Ultra Elite Duped Us Again — Politicians Remain a Stage and Bought
The Paradise Papers suggestion Bronfman used his family investment firm to move millions of dollars into an offshore trust owned by the Kolber family, which also has links to Trudeau. Of course these black-hat schemes have cost Canadian tax payers millions of dollars.
The ultra elite duping the laws is nothing new, but this heavily implicates the Liberal Party of Canada. Bronfman’s family investment business created a complex web of entities in the US, Israel and the Cayman Islands where in the three jurisdictions they could legally avoid taxes in the U.S., Israel and Canada.
In an age of so many leaks, it’s hard to care about things we already consider “business as usual”, however the direct link to Justin Trudeau could derail his political career entirely.
Justin Trudeau is quoted as saying:
“Our government has long known — indeed, we got elected — on a promise to make sure that people were paying their fair share of taxes,” Trudeau said shortly after his election victory. “Tax avoidance, tax evasion is something we take very seriously.”
LOL what a fucking corrupt con artist
Of course, Justin Trudeau takes his tax avoidance / evasion seriously.
He wouldn’t want to get caught at it, now would he?
All too often, they are telling the truth. They just count on people being too stupid to interpret it correctly.
Obviously many of my fellow Canadians are every bit that stupid. He is every bit the empty but dangerous suit that Hussein Obama was. But ooohhhh they are so hip and cool.
Justin Trudeau vacations on the private Bahamian island owned by the mysterious billionaire Aga Khan IV, another financial pillar of the Canadian Liberal Party.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aga_Khan_IV
Relax, she did not make one move or have one conversation we were not in on. We could even hear her every breath.
I hope the real feds have been watching the extended Bronfman family all along, love or hate these people watch out for each other . They all know each others business and the complete absence of Clares family is suspicious. Sad to see Canada acting like America.
It’s not really suspicious at all, when you consider that Clare and Sara are the products of their father sleeping with their nanny.
It’s a huge embarrassment for their family.
😃
“Burke has been accused by some of the potential witnesses in the upcoming NXIVM trial of trying to intimidate them or their attorneys.”
Don’t tell me that an attorney, an officer of the court no less, would try to intimidate witnesses and feed those witnesses approved stories!
Sounds about right.
“Some believe her uncompleted work was to hide evidence, coordinate stories and intimidate witnesses and defectors”.
What stories has the bitch coordinated?
What stories has the bitch coordinated?
How about the story told by the DOS slave Jane who never saw any illegal activities even as the slaves were being branded and blackmail material was being collected?
If Frank is shown a picture of “Jane” with Kristin Kreuk with Girls By Design, the story is more plausible. It would mean at least one girl from GBD was recruited into NXIVM and then DOS. A ex-member of GBD claims that Kreuk and Voth had girls fill out questionnaires and if they said something interesting, they were contacted via Facebook. What were those questionnaires for? What were they trying to identify? With the College Project, they had college kids fill out a survey too.
“I was a part of GBD in 2008 when I was 17 years old. KK would have girls fill out questionnaires (usually open ended questions about your experience as a teen) on facebook, and Kendra would contact us privately if we said something that interested her. Here’s one thing I do remember– it seemed Kristen and Kendra were more interested in recruiting girls much younger in age than me, closer to middle school. I ended up leaving GBD because of that. I also remember them both posting numerous vlogs on youtube.
I do remember at one point Kendra was much more interactive with having one on one’s with individual girls than KK was. I remember thinking that perhaps GBD was Kendra’s thing and KK was there to generate attention (at least she didn’t seem to want to get her hands dirty).
Not sure if that information is useful, but I wanted to put it out there.”
In this new GBD story, “Jane” criticises Keith Raniere and defends both Kreuk and Mack by saying she “feels” that what Kreuk “did” was not illegal, without saying what Kreuk did and we know Mack has already been charged. What benefit would there be for her to lie about it? Frank should dig further. More proof.
Jane characterized Raniere’s raging pedophilia not as a crime, which it is, but as being inconsiderate towards the female leaders of DOS.
Talk about a spin job.
As if Raniere would talk all the time about how it was proper to have sex with teen age girls and then not act on his impulses.
So that it is a total shock to Mack and the other women in DOS that
Raniere is a pedophile.
The DOS women not only knew of the pedophilia
there are stories indicating that they recruited girls
for Raniere and the women starved themselves in part to cater to Raniere’s fondness for prepubescent girls’ bodies.
Their arrogance won’t let them accept the fact that the DOJ and FBI are way ahead oh them in technology and brains. The sneaky behind the scenes attorney Burke is the dangerous one.
We can hear a mouse fart at 10,000 meters
I hope I get a chance to see how far ahead of vanguard and his groupies the feds really are. With so many top DOJ and FBI officials in Clinton’s pocket never expecting a conservative win, it would be nice to see them redeem themselves and pull off a major coup here. It’s time to show us some superseding indictments and some fresh arrests.
True that. Or might I say, “Trudeau” that?
Heidi, since you haven’t replied to my comment on an earlier thread, I’ll repeat it here: No need to write a Nerium story, I’ve seen the Nerium lawsuit stories, they are numerous and wide-ranging: https://behindmlm.com/search-results/?q=nerium
As far as coming on the show, you are welcome to do so. Let’s talk sometime this week prior to the show. I’ll be in the Pacific time zone, and available generally from 4-7 am and after 6 pm. We can use Skype or a freeconferencecall.com number I have, and if you dial *67 first, you don’t have to give up your own phone number. Either way, you’re protected, so just tell me which you prefer and I’ll get you the details. The show is at 8:30 pm Eastern time on Saturdays. If you prefer, you can also email me at stoptheamwaytoolscam (at) yahoo (dot) com to exchange information.
By the way, I’m always nice, sometimes it just doesn’t shine through my dry humor.
I’m not aware of any reason for getting arrested, so I think we’re okay there.