Allison Mack from a promotional video for Jness.

Did Allison Mack Try to Lure Australian Woman to Albany Offering to Open Joint US Bank Account With $25k in It?

A post on Reddit concerning Allison Mack is interesting and suggests a possible recruitment effort by Allison of a young Australian woman.  It is not known if the story is true or not and Frank Report will try to investigate it.
It was posted by someone calling themselves u/PollyMckenna.
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There is an entire thread on r/theNXIVMcase.
It is described as:
“Discussing NXIVM, the New York Capital Region-based group that sold expensive seminars of dubious value. The group was founded by so-called ‘Vanguard’ Keith Raniere. The organization is commonly called a ‘cult,’ and has been termed a ‘racketeering enterprise’ by the U.S. government. Keith Raniere is today a convicted felon serving a 120-year sentence.”
This particular post in the Nxivm discussion is about Allison Mack and is reprinted below:

The Heebie-Jeebies

I was friends with Allison Mack back in around 2015/2016. I was about 25 at the time. We met through a mutual friend who introduced me to Allison and we soon became Facebook buddies and would chat on Skype.
I was planning to relocate from Australia to the US and Allison said she could help me. All I needed to do was open up a joint bank account with HER to prove I have assets in the US. She said I should deposit around $25,000 USD.

She offered to let me stay with her in New York and wanted to show me around. I was young, foolish and tempted. But my instinct was telling me it didn’t make any sense. That was a huge amount of money to put in someone else’s name. I politely declined. We didn’t really end up talking much after that.

I later learned about NXIVM and the whole DOS thing. And it makes me shudder each time I read about it. I found out the ‘friend’ who introduced me to Allison was a recruiter for NXIVM.

I reached out to another member of NXIVM who I had mutual friends with and told her about our conversations. She told me Allison would have more than likely used that money as collateral against me. That she would often do grand favours in return for…. well…. who really knows.

I can’t be sure what would have happened or what the intentions really were. But it all gives me the heebie-jeebies.

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MK10ART’s painting of Allison Mack with Keith Raniere

The timeline the Reddit poster claims – 2015-2016 – is during the time when DOS was growing and recruitment was vigorously pursued. The story sounds plausible. If it is true, the Aussie woman would have likely been slender and attractive and perhaps Allison thought she might be a fine candidate for the sorority.

As readers know, Allison herself was charged with sex trafficking, and attempted sex trafficking – and had she not taken a plea deal that eliminated the sex trafficking charges and settled with racketeering and racketeering conspiracy – she would likely be facing a life sentence today.

As it is, when she is sentenced – the date has not been set – she may get anywhere from a few years to as much as 40 years. The sentencing guidelines are believed to be in the 3-5 year range.

But there are no guarantees for her.

Insofar as Allison cooperated with the prosecution of Raniere and has denounced him at her plea hearing, she may fare better with Judge Garaufis than her codefendant, Clare Bronfman, who got triple the sentencing guidelines [27 months] being handed a stiff 81 months. The judge mentioned that her failure to disavow Raniere was one of the factors in the surprisingly longer sentence.

Raniere himself got 120 years which some say is quite long considering he was not convicted of murder or any other harsh, violent crimes.

Below are several more MK10ART’s paintings and sketches of Allison Mack with and without Keith Raniere:

 

This painting by MK0ART was originally banned by Instagram.

 

MK10ARTs painting of Keith Raniere and Allison Mack

 

MK10ART’s subtle painting of gullible Allison Mack and handsome Keith Alan Raniere.

 

 

 


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  • It has been five weeks since Keith had Suneel announce his “Plan to Show the World What Really Happened to Keith Raniere”.

    So many promises of new evidence, but nothing delivered. Now Suneel doesn’t say anything.

    Has Keith discarded him after promising Suneel a baby like so many other women?

  • I don’t agree with those saying this kind of thing should not be published. People can make up their own minds. Freedom of speech should prevail. No one is saying the post on Reddit has been verified.

    Wise person, if the events happened, to steer clear of putting the money in the account – should be warning bells for anyone to be asked to do that.

  • Based on my years of experience teaching Con Law and Trial Procedures, I can confirm that Journalism Major is a legitimate student. All the rumors swirling around that this person is a NXIVM dead-ender sock puppet are without merit. Journalism Major has not been charged in criminal court let alone convicted of being a sock puppet.

    The claims about Alison Mack doing anything illegal at the behest of Keith are without data and entirely media hate bias.

  • In my experience of Allison Mack, she was thoughtful, kind and helpful. I never saw her hurt anyone. She took a lot of time out to help people.

  • To publish stories like this is not right. There’s no verification of any information whatsoever. Many people use this outlets to carry out personal revenges or to try to get easy money and attention.
    How sad..

  • I have to create a Reddit account so I can tell everyone about the time Allison came to my house to try and recruit me to DOS. I asked if she’d blow me and she said she’d have to call Keith and ask permission first. Keith gave the ok as long as I agreed to get branded with his initials. Just as I was about to bust all over her, Hillary Clinton walked in the door. Best Tuesday morning ever.

    • Journalism Major-

      I agree with you up to a point. Publishing an unverified story as fact is not a good journalistic practice; however Frank clearly stated, almost to the point of ad nauseam, that this story may be fiction.

      I will remind you of 3 things:

      1. Allison Mack was known to reach out to celebrities and others in a spontaneous way. An example would be her Tweet to Emma Watson.

      2. Additionally Allison was known to loan out money to Nxivm newcomers for Nxivm courses. Women actually went into debt to Allison.

      3. Allison Mack was known to contact Nxivm prospects directly and woo them with her celebrity.

      Allison’s own track record shows that the story put forth by this anonymous author is plausible.

      I don’t see anything outlandish being claimed.

      Do you?

  • Allison Mack is a hater’s wet dream, or more correctly a wet dream for posters here who love to have someone to hate. She has made a complete mess of her life by committing some serious crimes and is on her way to jail as a consequence, but as a person of goodwill, I hope she can be fully rehabilitated.

    That is my preferred outcome.

      • No. You hate her because you have a propensity to hate. The judge does not hate her. If he did, he would be unfit to fulfill the duties of his office. Your hate belongs 100% to you, and is both impotent and useless. It is a problem you have. She has committed a number of crimes, but hate plays no useful part in dealing with that. In fact, hate, divorced as it is from reason, is counterproductive to the process of justice.

    • —Allison Mack is a wet dream for posters here who love to have someone to hate.

      Like I said…………”You don’t say.”

      shadowstate1958
      February 11, 2021 at 9:38 am
      “Alison Mack is hated because she is a horrible, sadistic human being.”

      Paul, you definitely could, maybe, or possibly, be on to something! 😂

      • What better way to shoe hate than brand women like cattle?

        Niceguy, if you condone branding and blackmailing women, you are not nice.
        You are mean and brutal.
        Frank, do not call this comment uncivil.
        It is 100% accurate.

        • Shadowstate-

          I will will answer your questions when you answer one of my questions. 🙂

          P.S.
          Please tell us, once more, how many blocks the porn-shop, you mentioned, is from Allison Mack’s parents home? I don’t recall what you said. Thanks!

        • To Shadow and Everyone Else-

          I watched the documentary video you posted earlier in the week.

          I also read the comments section. Every single comment was Neo-Nazi, anti-government propaganda.
          ////////////////////
          Warning Offensive Content Below:
          //////////////////

          Here is a small sample:

          Americans4Christ
          Jesuit masons and jews are the source of our 3rd world shitshow. Lynchem all!

          peter.o
          The Great Mr Adolf Hitler did clean Berlin up…Sieg Heil.

          J3wishJakAteMy4skin
          Your right about being a pedo.

          peter.o
          Dare any of you read the juden Talmud ugh!!!…unclean beyond the pale.

          Jon_Gibbs
          White elimination by mass immigration is called genocide. Say it with me: genocide. Push back. Support openly pro-White National Justice Party.

          I also went to a couple of websites link to the documentary webpage. Those websites were run by white fascist individuals run amok. Here are the sites:

          https://awakeningincubator.com/

          https://rumble.com/vdr6xd-2.11.21-public-opinion-stage-set-optics-are-important-pray.html

          So Shadowstate you are not a Nazi?
          —————————————————

          Frank, the comments above are offensive in nature. They would be censored anywhere else, but here on the Frank Report.

          I believe hate speech should not be censored because otherwise, it all goes underground. Hate needs to be illuminated and not allowed to fester like mold in the dark. Please publish this comment.

  • Frank — and/or whomever gives a f*ck about the truth, justice or in some cases their own mortal existence — this is worth a deeper dig into the money laundering aspects of ESP/NXIVM.

    The NXIVM practice of making a relatively small deposit into bank accounts as a recruitment lure and possible covert $$$$$$ shelter dates back to at least 2000.

    It’s certain this trick did not originate with Allison Mack, in any case.

    Btw, “American Greed” wrongly reported that Mack’s initials are in the KAR monogram brand, in addition to completely missing the entire money story on NXIVM.

  • Additional point for the timeline – this appears to have occurred before Allison & Nicki’s sham marriage. The wording Polly says Allison used, “joint bank account with HER” almost seems like Allison was working a whole bunch of sham marriage angles. Guess Nicki was just the ‘lucky’ one?

  • Allison is a good woman. She has been defamed and attacked because of envy.

    In this case, I can guarantee you she was probably trying to help someone. And now people are making it look like something else.
    How much time do people have on their hands…

    • What/why are people ” envious” of Allison?

      Is it the dead acting career?

      The court cases against her?

      The pubic brand of Keith Raniere’s initials?

      Losing millions on a criminal cult?

      The ” boyfriend” of this almost 40 year old woman? A man who could and did fuck every one in his orbit? But Allison had to be monogamous and not even masturbate?

      Or is it the public shame & humiliation that fills others with envy toward Allison?

      Her big pubic bush?

      Genuinely curious where you get your, ” data”?

    • As someone who, like you, was never a member of NXIVM – but unlike you, not a wannabe, I don’t have much spare time but I do like to keep one eye cocked on Frank Report. How ’bout you? You busy?

    • @ February 10, 12:42 pm. I agree that this Reddit post MAY be an attempt to pin further blame on Allison Mack and that envy – to one degree and for one reason or another – also plays into the way Allison’s been targeted to “take the fall” from the get-go.

      I hope someday Allison is afforded the opportunity to actually, honestly defend herself instead of having to rely on rigged counsel, other agendas, etc.

      (Btw, I’ve never been on Reddit myself and cannot begin to fathom why their frequent use icon coincidentally appeared on my phone last week. One of many incessant tech oddities beyond my huckleberry, I suppose. …Least it’s not PARLER. But thanks for the warning, it’s also trash.

  • Ouf! What a relief from the barrage of Suneel et. al. ‘hate’, ‘data’, critical thinking by omission articles.

  • Allison Mack used fraud to lure women into a sex slave cult while promising “female empowerment.

    Why wouldn’t Allison Mack use fraud and deception to enrich herself?

    NXIVM is a society of Grifters and Slave Masters.

    • Herr Shadowstate,

      Do not fret! Our glorious Führer wrote his masterpiece in prison. Allison Mack was born in Deutschland. She is a master-Aryan. From her penance, she’ll remerge stronger and more pure.

      Like, you, I would love a drink from her unwashed beer-stein.

      Auf Wiedersehen!

      • Herr Shadowstate macht sich sorgen, weil er weiß, wie Adolf Hitler im Gefängnis sein Buch und seine künftige Karriere geplant und erdacht hat. Und nach seiner Gefängniszeit hat der künftige Führer seine Pläne ziemlich erfolgreich umgesetzt, bis zu dem Zeitpunkt, an dem er wohl größenwahnsinnig wurde und ihm niemand einhalt gebieten konnte oder widersprechen konnte oder durfte.

        GOOGLE TRANSLATION

        Mr. Shadowstate is worried because he knows how Adolf Hitler planned and conceived his book and future career in prison. And after his time in prison, the future leader implemented his plans quite successfully, until he became a megalomaniac and no one could or Would stop him.

  • Allison took a plea deal for doing nothing wrong and cowardly betrayed Keith. I hope her plea deal actually helps her stay out of prison. She has always seemed unstable to me, so not sure what could happen to her in jail.

    • So Keith put an “unstable” person in charge of every facet of the lives of their ” slaves”.

      Sounds like Keith is the one guilty of betrayal.

      And we know from Lauren’s testimony that Keith is also a coward.

    • “As readers know, Allison herself was charged with sex trafficking, and attempted sex trafficking – and had she not taken a plea deal that eliminated the sex trafficking charges and settled with racketeering and racketeering conspiracy – she would likely be facing a life sentence today.” See the article above to find this quotation.

      Do you understand this at all? What is your motivation for twisting these very simple facts? And you have been doing so for years, stuck goosestepping around what is true, what is untrue. If only you could see it.

      Allison Mack, as well as every other defendant besides Raniere, entered into a plea bargain, after the arrival of a second superseding indictment, which contained the sex trafficking charges.

      Mack decided to enter a plea of guilty to lesser charges. Evidently, Mack, Bronfman, the two Salzmans and Russell did not want to risk going to trial with sexual trafficking as the basis for one or more personal charges set out against them.

      It’s doubtful now that anyone awaiting sentencing will be as dumb about it as Clare Bronfman has been. And you sound just as trapped, in illusions and in delusion, as Clare Bronfman has shown herself to be.

      • Just for the sake of clarity, let me provide everyone with my original summary of the second superseding indictment:

        • Count One: Racketeering Conspiracy: Keith Raniere, Clare Bronfman, Allison Mack, Kathy Russell, Lauren Salzman, & Others

        • Count Two: Racketeering: Keith Raniere, Clare Bronfman, Allison Mack, Lauren Salzman, & Others

        Racketeering Act One
        – Conspiracy To Commit Identity Theft Regarding Jane Doe 1 (Keith Raniere & Others)
        – Conspiracy To Unlawfully Possess Identification Document (Keith Raniere & Others)

        Racketeering Act Two
        – Sexual Exploitation Of A Child – Jane Doe 2 (Keith Raniere)

        Racketeering Act Three
        – Sexual Exploitation Of A Child – Jane Doe 2 (Keith Raniere)

        Racketeering Act Four (Keith Raniere)
        – Possession Of Child Pornography (Keith Raniere)

        Racketeering Act Five
        – Conspiracy To Commit Identity Theft (Keith Raniere, Clare Bronfman & Others)
        – Identity Theft Regarding John Doe 1 (Keith Raniere & Others)
        – Identity Theft Regarding John Doe 2 (Keith Raniere, Clare Bronfman & Others)

        Racketeering Act Six
        – Conspiracy To Alter Records For Use In An Official Proceeding (Keith Raniere & Others)

        Racketeering Act Seven
        – Conspiracy To Commit Identity Theft Regarding Jane Doe 3 (Keith Raniere & Others)

        Racketeering Act Eight
        – Money Laundering (Clare Bronfman & Others)

        Racketeering Act Nine
        – Trafficking Of Jane Doe 4 For Labor And Services (Keith Raniere, Lauren Salzman & Others)
        – Document Servitude Of Jane Done 4 (Keith Raniere, Lauren Salzman & Others)

        Racketeering Act Ten
        – State Law Extortion (Keith Raniere, Allison Mack, Lauren Salzman & Others)

        Racketeering Act Eleven
        – Visa Fraud (Clare Bronfman & Others)

        Racketeering Act Twelve
        – Sex Trafficking Of Jane Doe 5 (Keith Raniere, Allison Mack & Others)
        – Forced Labor Of Jane Doe 5 (Keith Raniere, Allison Mack & Others)

        Racketeering Act Thirteen
        – Forced Labor Of Jane Doe 9 (Lauren Salzman & Others)

        Racketeering Act Fourteen
        – Conspiracy To Commit Identity Theft (Keith Raniere, Clare Bronfman & Others)

        • Count Three: Sexual Exploitation Of A Child – Jane Doe 2 (Keith Raniere)

        • Count Four: Sexual Exploitation Of A Child – Jane Doe 2 (Keith Raniere)

        • Count Five: Possession Of Child Pornography (Keith Raniere)

        • Count Six: Forced Labor Conspiracy (Keith Raniere, Allison Mack, Lauren Salzman & Others)

        • Count Seven: Wire Fraud Conspiracy (Keith Raniere, Allison Mack, Lauren Salzman & Others)

        • Count Eight: Sex Trafficking Conspiracy (Keith Raniere, Allison Mack & Others)

        • Count Nine: Sex Trafficking Regarding Jane Doe 5 (Keith Raniere, Allison Mack & Others)

        • Count Ten: Attempted Sex Trafficking Regarding Jane Doe 8 (Keith Raniere, Allison Mack & Others)

        • Count Eleven: Conspiracy To Commit Identity Theft Regarding Jane Doe 7 (Keith Raniere, Clare Bronfman & Others)

        *******************

        • Criminal Forfeiture Action Regarding Counts One And Two

        • Criminal Forfeiture Action Regarding Counts Three, Four & Five

        • Criminal Forfeiture Action Regarding Count Six, Eight, Nine & Ten

        • Criminal Forfeiture Action Regarding Count Seven

        • Criminal Forfeiture Action Regarding Count Eleven

        ***************************************************************************

        And for comparison’s sake, here’s my original summary of the first superseding indictment:

        • Count One: Racketeering Conspiracy: Keith Raniere, Clare Bronfman, Allison Mack, Kathy Russell, Lauren Salzman, Nancy Salzman & Others

        Racketeering Act One
        – Conspiracy To Commit Identity Theft Regarding Jane Doe 1 (Keith Raniere, Kathy Russell & Others)
        – Conspiracy To Unlawfully Possess Identification Document (Keith Raniere, Kathy Russell & Others)

        Racketeering Act Two
        – Conspiracy To Commit Identity Theft (Keith Raniere, Clare Bronfman, Kathy Russell, Nancy Salzman & Others)
        – Identity Theft Regarding John Doe 1 (Keith Raniere, Kathy Russell & Others)
        – Identity Theft Regarding John Doe 2 (Keith Raniere, Clare Bronfman & Others)

        Racketeering Act Three
        – Conspiracy To Alter Records For Use In An Official Proceeding (Keith Raniere, Nancy Salzman & Others)

        Racketeering Act Four (Keith Raniere)
        – Conspiracy To Commit Identity Theft Regarding Jane Doe 2 (Keith Raniere & Others)

        Racketeering Act Five
        – Encouraging And Inducing Illegal Entry (Clare Bronfman & Others)
        – Money Laundering (Clare Bronfman & Others)

        Racketeering Act Six
        – Trafficking Of Jane Doe 4 For Labor And Services (Keith Raniere, Lauren Salzman & Others)
        – Document Servitude Of Jane Done 4 (Keith Raniere, Lauren Salzman & Others)

        Racketeering Act Seven
        – State Law Extortion (Keith Raniere, Allison Mack, Lauren Salzman & Others)

        Racketeering Act Eight
        – Sex Trafficking Of Jane Doe 5 (Keith Raniere, Allison Mack & Others)
        – Forced Labor Of Jane Doe 5 (Keith Raniere, Allison Mack & Others)
        – State Law Extortion Of Jane Doe 5 (Allison Mack & Others)

        Racketeering Act Nine
        – Forced Labor Of Jane Doe 6 (Lauren Salzman & Others)
        – State Law Extortion Of Jane Doe 6 (Lauren Salzman & Others)

        Racketeering Act Ten
        – Conspiracy To Commit Identity Theft Regarding Jane Doe 7 (Keith Raniere, Clare Bronfman & Others)

        • Count Two: Forced Labor Conspiracy: Keith Raniere, Allison Mack, Lauren Salzman & Others

        • Count Three: Wire Fraud Conspiracy: Keith Raniere, Allison Mack, Lauren Salzman & Others

        • Count Four: Sex Trafficking Conspiracy: Keith Raniere, Allison Mack & Others

        • Count Five: Sex Trafficking Regarding Jane Doe 5: Keith Raniere, Allison Mack & Others

        • Count Six: Attempted Sex Trafficking Regarding Jane Doe 8: Keith Raniere, Allison Mack & Others

        • Count Seven: Conspiracy To Commit Identity Theft Regarding Jane Doe 7: Keith Raniere, Clare Bronfman & Others

        *******************

        • Criminal Forfeiture Action Regarding Count One

        • Criminal Forfeiture Action Regarding Counts Two, Four, Five & Six

        • Criminal Forfeiture Action Regarding Count Three

        • Criminal Forfeiture Action Regarding Count Seven

  • A late Christmas gift to the subreddit: I got Allison Mack’s petition for divorce. I’ll describe what’s inside it in excruciating detail
    NXIVM News

    After the celebrity/paparazzi coverage of Allison Mack’s divorce from (alleged) sham-wife Nicki Clyne, there’s been a surprising lack of follow-up about what was in the filing. I figured there is enough interest is in the Mack/Clyne divorce on the subreddit that it would be worth it to purchase hard copies and post up whatever new may be in them.

    Please note: Mack is a public figure and this is posted in the general public interest of keeping track of the NXIVM case. However, out of an abundance of caution, I am not sharing original scans since there is private information on them. I am also making an effort to keep a bit of ambiguity and will stick to general ranges about certain numbers.

    So, on to what can be observed:

    Mack did her own paperwork and did it (slightly) earlier than reported

    The electronically-filed court record of the petition for divorce indicates that Mack signed papers over a week before the filings were entered into the court’s database on December 11, 2020 (where they were discovered by TMZ). She also chose to file the petition without a lawyer.

    An interesting choice of checkboxes and dates

    The divorce petition form does not ask for any narrative, but rather has a bunch of checkboxes and dropdown fields. That is not to say that there aren’t interesting factoids to be mined. For instance, Mack chose to list the date of her (de facto) separation from Clyne as the exact date of arrest on April 20, 2018.

    However, Mack did not choose to list “separation” as her reason for divorce (maybe since this was never legally certified), and also did not cite “nullity” due to fraud or unsound mind edit, but rather chose “irreconcilable differences.”

    Jobless, but living off residuals and assets…

    A brief note regarding Mack’s employment (the job she was allowed to work as part of her bail) claims that Mack lost her job in March 2020.

    Totaling up several income fields, Mack can still claim to make approximately $30,000 a year while living with her retired parents –a mix of residuals and rental income. It appears Mack was allowed to keep one of her properties, noted as being bought before her 2017 marriage, and is renting it at under $2,000 a month. I will speculate that this is her home in the greater LA area being sublet.

    When it comes to assets, counting her home equity, Mack has a shade under $1 million in assets; other than home equity, much of it is in retirement accounts. She also has over $100,000 in debt, mostly her mortgage but also a student loan debt (she lists herself as having completed 2 years of college).

    …but no interest in sharing any assets or income with you-know-who.

    Since the point of this tally is to decide how to divide income and property, might as well mention it: Mack is offering Clyne absolutely no share of any of her income or property so far.

    This case, that bothersome criminal one, and that civil suit

    Interestingly enough, I checked with the Orange County’s court system and there is yet to be a date provided for whatever next steps there may be in this divorce proceeding. Someone familiar with California family law can probably give a general idea of when Clyne would have to contest the divorce by (and choose whether she wishes to go quietly or engage in lawfare).

    In addition: Mack is compelled to list any ongoing litigation as part of her petition. She lists her own case, as well as the Edmondson et al. v. Raniere et al civil suit; interestingly enough, Mack and Clyne are on the same side as defendants in the civil suit, so a possible court appearance could reunite the two regardless of their current attitudes toward each other (much less their attitudes toward Keith Raniere).

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Frank Parlato is an investigative journalist.

His work has been cited in hundreds of news outlets, like The New York Times, The Daily Mail, VICE News, CBS News, Fox News, New York Post, New York Daily News, Oxygen, Rolling Stone, People Magazine, The Sun, The Times of London, CBS Inside Edition, among many others in all five continents.

His work to expose and take down NXIVM is featured in books like “Captive” by Catherine Oxenberg; “Scarred” by Sarah Edmonson; “The Program” by Toni Natalie, and “NXIVM. La Secta Que Sedujo al Poder en México” by Juan Alberto Vasquez.

Parlato has been featured prominently on HBO’s docuseries “The Vow” and acted as lead investigator and coordinating producer for Investigation Discovery’s “The Lost Women of NXIVM.” He was credited in the Starz docuseries, 'Seduced,' for saving 'slave' women from being branded and escaping the sex-slave cult known as DOS.

Parlato has appeared on the Nancy Grace Show, Beyond the Headlines with Gretchen Carlson, Dr. Oz, American Greed, Dateline NBC and NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt, where Parlato conducted the first-ever interview with Keith Raniere after his arrest, which was ironic since many credit Parlato as being one of the primary architects of his arrest and the cratering of the cult he founded.

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