In our last post, we touched on the possibility that coronavirus is poorly understood. Let’s look at some opinions from readers, beginning with someone who uses the moniker “Super Chicken.”
Super Chicken refers to Koch’s Postulates.
Koch’s Postulates are, according to Wikipedia, four criteria designed to establish a causative relationship between a microbe and a disease.
The postulates were formulated by Robert Koch and Friedrich Loeffler in 1884…. These postulates were generated prior to understanding of modern concepts in microbial pathogenesis that cannot be examined using Koch’s postulates, including viruses (which are obligate cellular parasites) and asymptomatic carriers. They have largely been supplanted by other criteria such as the Bradford Hill criteria for infectious disease causality in modern public health.
Koch’s postulates are the following:
- The microorganism must be found in abundance in all organisms suffering from the disease, but should not be found in healthy organisms.
- The microorganism must be isolated from a diseased organism and grown in pure culture.
- The cultured microorganism should cause disease when introduced into a healthy organism.
- The microorganism must be reisolated from the inoculated, diseased experimental host and identified as being identical to the original specific causative agent.
However, Koch later abandoned the universalist requirement of the first postulate altogether when he discovered asymptomatic carriers of cholera and, later, of typhoid fever.
Nevertheless, the fact that Koch’s Postulates have been supplanted to some extent, and that Koch himself abandoned one of his own postulates, may not entirely invalidate the other three or Super Chicken’s general arguments about COVID-19.
Super Chicken writes:
The truth is the bug has not been isolated. Koch postulates have not been applied and the alleged testing to identify the alleged virus, which may not even be the cause, is wrong more often than right.
In the allopathic world, which is the rules and procedures MDs MUST operate under, there is something called KOCH Postulates which determine how epidemiologists identify which pathogen OR toxin is causing a certain illness or symptom set:
https://science.umd.edu/classroom/bsci424/BSCI223WebSiteFiles/KochsPostulates.htm
The bug called COVID-19 is officially not definable and has not been identified. Let me repeat: The pathogen that is the cause of the illness called COVID-19 has never been identified and is unknown at this time. It may be a virus or it may be something else.
The two treatments known to be effective are quinine and artmisinan annua, both anti-malarial drugs, not anti-viral, and zinc and a high dose of vitamin C, which pretty much is effective against every malady bad for people.
Does that not define a hoax?
Follow the links to the supporting documentation and then search for Judy Mikovits.
In March, two Canadians claimed to have isolated the cause, then the story disappeared, along with two Americans who were murdered who were on the cusp of advancing a new, exiting theory of COVID-19.
Someone or some group does not want the real cause to be known or discovered. Don’t reply until you are familiar with Koch postulates. Study and learn.
By the way, the masks are good for bank robbers and useless against the bug whatever it may be.
Simply stated, the cause of COVID-19 has never been isolated or identified.
The tests being used to confirm IF the “virus” is present fail more often than they are correct and PCR tests [PCR tests are used to directly detect the presence of an antigen, rather than the presence of the body’s immune response, or antibodies] were never meant to diagnose or quantify how much of the thing being tested for was in the sample, notwithstanding that the actual root cause of the illness has never been isolated and may in fact not even be a virus.
Lottsa great references in this link: https://healthimpactnews.com/2020/censored-covid19-pcr-tests-are-scientifically-meaningless-everything-weve-been-told-about-covid-is-a-hoax/
The author makes a strong case to show how the current top scientists studying this bug have, in their own words, never isolated the virus and therefore cannot have followed testing as per Koch Postulates to show that the cause of the bug is any particular thing.
After many deaths and overwhelming, unmeasurable heartache and anguish, we are still at step zero.
You cannot begin to make a vaccine or drug to stop a particular pathogen if you have no idea which pathogen you are dealing with
except by trial and error and guessing.
It gets worse.
Now, look at https://www.bitchute.com/video/5i9d9XIkiCnX/.
Judy Mikovits is being censored by Google, YouTube, Facebook, and others. She is very credible and even if someone does not like her or agree with her, should her input be censored?
Or should my input be censored?
Because she is being censored, we know Big Pharma does NOT want her message to be made public, all the more reason it SHOULD be made public.
Answers required. Correlation is not causation. [Correlation is not causation” means that just because two things correlate does not necessarily mean that one causes the other. Correlations between two things can be caused by a third factor that affects both of them.]
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Koch’s postulates are a set of useful guidelines but they are not universally applicable. Most pathogenic microorganisms cause disease in only a subset of infected animals and, therefore, may be cultured from asymptomatic individuals (postulate 2)
Also, some organisms cannot be cultivated in vitro like Treponema pallidum, the causative agent of syphilis. Some organisms may be host-adapted and do not readily cause disease in animals like Salmonella typhi and Neisseria gonorrhea.
The reason epidemiologists were able to quickly announce COVID19 as the causative agent was because of the strong evidence in postulate 1, which is that this organism was found in all cases of disease and not in healthy individuals.
“This organism was found in all cases of disease and not in healthy individuals” – what exactly was found? If it has not been isolated yet?
Quoting Jon Rapoport: “The CDC, one of the two most powerful public health agencies in the world, couldn’t get isolated virus then—couldn’t get it anywhere. In other words, there was a declared pandemic without a proven virus.” see https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/10/26/the-missing-virus-answering-critics-objections/
He links to the CDC document, itself, wherein the admit they had no virus to provide developers of the tests for verification. So, do you know something the CDC doesn’t?
Can someone point me to Part 1? I’ve done a search and browsed around trying to find it. You’d think they would’ve put a link where it says “previous post”. Thanks in advance.
https://frankreport.com/2020/07/03/is-the-coronavirus-a-hoax-greatly-exaggerated-or-a-fell-disease-that-threatens-everyone-part-1/
Many thanks!!!
Can anyone point me to Part 1? I did a search and also looked around trying to find it but no luck! Thanks in advance.
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which adds credibility to the thoughts expressed in the article
terrain theory germ theory or is it a combination of the two
for koch postulates to be valid then every one that has the suspected bug pathogen toxin MUST also have the disease the bug represents how ever that is clearly NOT the case
https://thefreedomarticles.com/normal-human-virome-study-hiv-hepatitis-many-viruses-present/
above is discussion of a large study showing many 42% of 8000 test subjects people tested positive for many alleged “viruses” or
exosomes or somatids or microzymas or what ever , all words to describe the same particle
so 42% of test subject should be infected with the symptoms and disease of the virus they test positive for OR the should come down with disease within days as the “experts ” claim viral infection multiply s “exponentially” as in the model of meningitis .
nope they are all healthy
virus
is not alive , there i said it , viruses are not living , they do not breathe or eat or poop , all they are is little chunks of protein with a message written on them , they are the bodies response to damaged cell parts or toxins or invaders virus mycrozyma somatids exosomes have NEVER been isolated & cultured and following koch postulate s inserted into another batch of test subjects to see if the disease was found to be caused by them in the test subjects ,
never been done INCLUDING with kovid19
prove me wrong , rottsa ruck i have tried \
but wait
there is more
superchicken
Perhaps take a look at the exosome theory. Covid-19 might not be a virus at all. Some believe that viruses are really exosomes. There is a video called Exosome Theory vs. Virus Theory which may be worth viewing: https://youtu.be/hP6dQ5dkea0
Linked video is “private”. Perhaps the same as this one? (I saw this many months ago, YT has since pulled it):
https://www.bitchute.com/video/gpfk3LMFHIbA/
BTW, I was one of the early (mid 1980’s) observers of exosomes, at U.C. Irvine Developmental and Cell Biology Dept., about the same time as two other research groups were identifying and publishing about them.
The body itself has a fairly effective immune system that fights off most infections.
And when people need help it appears that anti-inflammatory drugs like HCQ combined with nutritional supplements like Zinc and vitamins C and D can help.
It also appears that warm weather combined with UV light can kill this virus.
Some have suggested that the Oral Polio Vaccine, which comes in tablet form, can also boost the immune system temporarily.
Another eye opener:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=579619306261600&id=100026406081790¬if_t=feedback_reaction_generic¬if_id=1593826166674280&ref=m_notif
Get a load of THIS;
https://australiannationalreview.com/health/no-one-has-died-from-the-coronavirus-says-leading-pathologist/
So the guest author makes claims about Koch’s Postulates, which are 19th century understanding of disease, makes wild claims about various researchers’ deaths with zero basis, and then offers up Mikovits (google the name), a thoroughly debunked “expert” as proof of anything? LOL
Sorry Fred, I’m not biting. LOL
According to you who discredits her, Dr. Fauci, WHO, CNN, Wikipedia
you need to look further or stay [redacted] i guess.. we all sell out in some way..
Debunked by $ellout$. Way to be easily deceived!
“thoroughly debunked “expert” – lol, because wikipedia told me so!!!!!!!!!
Google saying anyone is debunked is like a child with cake all over their face claiming they didn’t touch the destroyed cake sitting in their lap.
Don’t bite your own dog crap. Anyone with half a brain and isn’t the walking dead knows it’s fact. Scurry back into the cracks whatever being is controlling your skin suit, you empty shill…