Although most of the commenters on this site add insight to the topics posted, there are a few very obtuse trolls who love to make insulting comments.
Anonymity helps their courage.
Now, this post does not apply to all the great commenters on Frank Report, such as Peaches, Mexican Lady, Natashka, Fool Me Not, Paul, Anonymaker, Alex, Scott Johnson, Gin an Juice, Shadow State, Nut Job, Heidi Hutchinson, Anna Lee, Ice-Nine, Mitch Garrity, Flowers [most of the time], Samir Sardana, Fred, Shivani, Just Sayin’, Ken Gibson, Python Swoope, L, smtolle, Erma Gerrd, Diane Lipson, Captain Moonbeam, Kim, Bill, LaLaLad, Retired Inspector, Alabama Man, even Pea Onyu, and Yolanda Cortez and, of course, hundreds of others who use no moniker and appear as anonymous.
Last week, I posted in general terms my new comments policy: redacting portions of certain comments, deleting other comments, and, in turn, hearing the howls of a few trolls who want to disrupt whatever they can.
Time to Address Comments Section on Frank Report – as We Ready for Larger, More Diverse Audience
Trolls Gone Wild Over New Comments Policy – I Reply to Anonymous ‘Beefs’
It seems there are trolls on many, many sites.
Most sites that get readers have to deploy a policy for comments to stop toxic commenters. This is not an attack on free speech since anonymous toxic trolls are free to speak elsewhere [wherever they are wanted] or start their own websites.
In order for Frank Report to maintain and secure more ad revenue, it needs to make the time spent worthwhile – which means that toxic commenters have to be banned.
Comments have to conform to reason. It’s really easy. The rules have been devised by other publications.
Here are some that others use:
The New York Times
Our standards for taste are reflected in the articles we publish in the newspaper and on NYTimes.com; we expect your comments to follow that example. A few things we won’t tolerate: personal attacks, obscenity, vulgarity, profanity (including expletives and letters followed by dashes), commercial promotion, impersonations, incoherence and SHOUTING….
The New York Post
… If your contributions don’t meet [The Post’s published] standards, your contributions may be removed, and you may be removed or banned. Please note that comments may be edited by the moderator for any reason… keep your comments relevant and respectful….
… Do: Focus on intelligently discussing topics by furthering the conversation and informing the participants with resourceful and constructive ideas.
Don’t: Attack NYPost.com authors. If you find an error, please alert us kindly. We understand and recognize that we make mistakes and will do our best to correct errors as soon as possible. If you disagree with an author’s point of view or writing style, we respect your opinion. However, share your thoughts in a rational and respectful manner. We will distinguish between constructive arguments and smear tactics. Any misrepresentation will be deleted.
Do: Point out positive attributes of articles and let authors know when they’ve done a good job. We invite you to ask authors your questions about the article topic if you’d like more information.
Don’t: Debates are great, attacks are not. We understand that you won’t agree with everything that NYPost.com community members say. Please state your opinions in a constructive and respectful manner. Profanity, hateful speech, prejudice, persistent trolling and mindless abuse will not be tolerated. Respect others’ values, beliefs and emotions. Refrain from posting offensive, obscene, threatening or abusive comments. We reserve the right to remove any content that might be found extremely offensive or threatening.
Do: Engage in polite and valuable conversations with fellow readers, and keep your language in check. Vulgar posts may offend other readers. Our filters are fairly tolerant, allowing for quite a bit of colorful/questionable language, but too many obscenities may prevent a comment from posting. In some cases, if a post is still too vulgar, a moderator may remove it.
Don’t: Use profane, inappropriate or abusive language or belittle, harass, insult or threaten others. We encourage you to take responsibility for the quality of the conversations in which you’re participating. Maintain intelligent discussions in the NYPost.com community by being respectful and considerate. Anything defamatory, obscene or vulgar will be deleted….
Do: Stay on topic. Comments should be related to the topic discussed in the associated article or blog post. Off-topic comments may be edited or removed.
Infowars
- You will stay on topic.
- You will not post comments that are spam.
- You will not attack or harass other users. While spirited debate is welcome, attacking other commenters is not.
- You will not include links to websites and videos unrelated to the article topic.
- You will not post the same comment multiple times on the same or different articles.
- You will not solicit anyone to buy or sell products or services, or to make donations of any kind.
- You will not post anything libelous, defamatory, harmful, threatening, harassing, abusive, invasive of another’s privacy, hateful, racially or ethnically objectionable, or otherwise illegal.
- You will not post content that is sexually explicit or contains profanity.
- You will not make threats of violence.
- You will not violate any applicable local, state, national, or international law, intentionally or unintentionally.
- You will not “Stalk” or otherwise harass other users.
- You will not impersonate any person or entity, or falsely state or otherwise misrepresent your affiliation with a person or entity.
- You will not post identifying information about other users or members of the public (known as Doxing)
Comments that violate the Code of Conduct will be removed by cmmtr staff or by our partners that use cmmtr as their commenting platform.
Washington Post
…. We don’t allow comments that degrade others on the basis of gender, race, class, ethnicity, political beliefs, national origin, religion, sexual orientation, disability or other classifications….
Comments posted must be appropriate for all ages. Any profanity or cursing is prohibited. That includes any attempts to curse with special characters (!@#) or spacing.
Discuss and criticize ideas. We don’t allow comments that intend to intimidate, demean or harass other readers in any way….
Frank Report
Large media operations have found it necessary to limit trolls in order to encourage intelligent comments. In a way, this may actually be encouraging free speech.
And Frank Report will follow suit.
I don’t actually need any trolls to remind me that I did not adopt this policy earlier. I am aware of this. And I had my reasons at the time – which I explained here.
Our advertising revenue is increasing and new advertisers are asking to come on board. I am not going to allow a few trolls to ruin that opportunity. Thanks for understanding.
So here are 10 rules for commenting [borrowed from the publications shown above]. Some might be redundant:
- Make articulate, well-informed remarks that are relevant to the article.
- Comments should be civil and avoid name-calling.
- No personal attacks, vulgarity, profanity, impersonations, incoherence, and SHOUTING
- Strong opinions and criticisms of our work are acceptable. However, personal attacks against the staff will not be permitted, and any criticism should relate to the article in question.
- Hateful speech, prejudice, persistent trolling, and mindless abuse will not be tolerated.
- Respect others’ values, beliefs, and emotions.
- Refrain from posting offensive, obscene, threatening, or abusive comments.
- Do not post anything racially or ethnically objectionable, or otherwise illegal.
- We don’t allow comments that degrade others on the basis of gender, race, class, ethnicity, political beliefs, national origin, religion, sexual orientation, disability, or other classifications.
- Trolls who violate these rules may be banned.
I know this is going to make anonymous and cowardly trolls unhappy.
Re: [cmmtr.] Your account has been banned and why was that??
Jan 1 at 6:43 AM
JD
To: help@cmmtr.com,
Why was I was I ban? I feel this is unfair I wasn’t giving any warning at all !! You don’t even tell why or what reason you ban me. What guidelines did I violated? That;s not a good enough reason to ban me !! You should give warning first before banning me. Which you didn’t do !! This is the only e-mail I got on this issue. You ban me out of the blue with no warning what so ever or reason to do so !!
From,
JudgeDredd
On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 08:26:23 AM EST, wrote:
Dear JudgeDredd,
Someone with access to your account has violated our community guidelines. As a result, your account has been banned. You will no longer be able to comment, like or report comments. if you think this has been done in error, please contact our community team.
infowars amongst real journalism…this lost all credibility all the sudden.
Infowars is one of many outlets, I suggest people use their brain and use multiple sources of information. LOL
Alex Jones is the first outsider to penetrate the secret society known online as Bohemian Grove, where a 30ft idol of an owl is worshipped by the elite like a deity.
CNN didn’t uncover that story,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Lyon
CNN does not masquerade as a conspiracy network. That’s the one good thing I can say.
When Raniere gets sentenced it’s time to shut this thing done.
What thing? LOL
If you’re referring to this website, it’s going to cover other topics, and Amway and other MLM scams are #1 on my list. LOL
How do you ban an anonymous commenter? LOL
You ban the content.
Then they post new content that isn’t as objectionable. LOL
Truth is, I’m shocked it took Frank THIS long to finally carry out these changes. 🙂
But I have a few RELEVANT facts to point out which are ON TOPIC…
It would appear that Frank is not enacting these new policies for advertising purposes.
While Frank is claiming that he’s cleaning up his comment section for ‘advertising’ purposes (i.e., to attract ads from higher quality firms) —– that would ONLY be true if he deleted every single abusive comment going back for years, which he has NOT done.
Here’s the straight skinny:
To appeal to advertisers who refuse to advertise on sites which have abusive and degrading comments —– that could only happen if EVERY abusive comment was deleted (from every page which is still online).
For instance… If there are racist comments on older articles (which there are) then Frank would need to remove ALL of those racist comments before any ‘new’ advertiser would change their mind about his site.
Remember, the majority of Frank’s readers don’t just visit the latest article typed today.
Frank’s readers often find FrankReport.com via older articles indexed by Google ——– and ALL of those articles still have abusiveness, profanity, crudeness, rudeness, sexual degradation and overall meanness (as well as racist remarks by a few people).
For instance, virtually every article where Sultan of Six shows up has racist remarks still online.
Yet Frank has not deleted ANY of those comments yet —– which means he hasn’t changed his ‘advertising’ status yet.
If Frank believes that I’m mistaken then he should feel free to correct me.
Secondly… Many of Frank’s own articles (written by his own hand) contain extreme profanity, abusiveness, sexual crudeness and female degradation against NXIVM members —— yet these articles are STILL online, and potential advertisers would be able to see this fact.
*We’re not talking about ‘comments’ here…
**We’re talking about Frank’s OWN articles which are abusive and degrading.
Some of Frank’s own articles about Nancy, Clare, Sara Bronfman and Lauren (and many other women) are so crude and demeaning that they fall WAY outside of advertiser ‘norms’.
Advertisers don’t make exceptions for ‘DOS slave masters’. If they are a ‘family friendly’ advertiser —– they would insist on EVERY degrading article being deleted, not just the ‘new’ articles.
Truth is, Frank simply wants a more loyal group of commenters around him each day. It has little to do with advertisers.
There’s nothing wrong with that either, since he owns the site.
Truth is, I always assumed he’d do it sooner —– regardless of the nonsense I post about free speech. 🙂
But Frank should simply be honest about it.
@NiceGuy: If you’re seeing new ads (like Allstate insurance) that’s NOT because Frank has ‘cleaned up’ his site recently ——– since he’s still got hundreds of profane, abusive and degrading articles about the women of NXIVM and about Keith himself.
Truth is, if you’re seeing new ads (from Allstate insurance) it’s because YOUR OWN GOOGLE SEARCHES have pegged you as somebody that’s been searching for insurance recently.
Your own searches are stored inside your browser (using ‘cookies’) and they are made available to any site within the ad network, which helps to ‘target’ ads to specific customers.
While it’s true that bigger firms do employ ‘standards’ when choosing which sites to advertise on, that wouldn’t apply to FrankReport UNLESS the thousands of degrading and abusive comments are first deleted.
Frank obviously uses a ‘content network’ for advertisements, he doesn’t solicit ads directly from specific advertisers.
The ads showing on a ‘content network’ are generally tied to a larger group of sites which are not always policed for appropriate content as closely as you might think. Frank’s site is considered fairly legit by Google and has been for quite some time, despite its racy comment section.
**There was NO change in status due to Frank’s recent policies. He’s left WAY too many abusive posts online for that to be true.
@Frank: This post was 100% on topic. Yeah, it was critical of you, but it was on topic. 🙂
Bangkok-
—virtually every article where Sultan of Six shows up has racist remarks still online.
Bangkok you of all people would be an expert on Sultan and racist comments. [redacted].
— if you’re seeing new ads (from Allstate insurance) it’s because YOUR OWN GOOGLE SEARCHES have pegged you as somebody that’s been searching for insurance recently.
Bangkok I have not done searches for insurance. I use Arabella for all of my insurance needs (wrap around insurance) BTW Allstate is the absolute worst insurance company. You should make sure mother does use Allstate and tell that sexy goddess I said hi.
Lastly dear friend, immortal Bangkok, the quality of the products and services I am seeing ads for has skyrocketed. The ads use to be for crap like no name shoes and quirky gizmos only total morons would buy.
Bangkok you are as [redacted] as a Kristin Kreuk defending Kristen Kreuk.
Frank is doing the right thing. I am not happy about it.
You need to be more clever with your posts like you were before. Read my lambasting of Kreuk fan from last week.
I think you’re overestimating the significance of old stories/comments. LOL
Plus, you’re still too [redacted] to come on Scott’s show, after DEMANDING he answer 11 questions, and then you added some more. LOL
Bangkok we weren’t on the list of Frank’s favorite commentators. Probably because we roasted him.
Frank is not changing his mind. Frank said, you, Bangkok, used to be pithy and witty.
Just be clever.
Ps Frank if you are bedeck in man jewelry
I apologize. You strike me as man of simple and reserved taste. BTW I love your hat. I can’t pull the “hat look” off I am a size 8 in a Stetson. I look ridiculous.
When we are done removing the insults to the Mad Spanker, we can hunt down some more public statues that offend us and tear them down.
Thank you for the mention.
Fool Me Not, aka Just sayin’
…because it’s all about [redacted] LOL
thanks for the mention. good articles. go frank +team!
…because it’s all about [redacted]. LOL
This is great stuff, Frank, and it’s obvious that you’ve done your due diligence on the standards a respectable and credible publication can be expected to deliver. I want to see Frank Report go from strength to strength, and for you to be adequately rewarded for your work by an increase in advertising revenue.
One section from the Washington Post rang a bell with me, and this is it:
“The best comments avoid generalizing groups of people. Comments stating “all conservatives” or “all liberals” do little to provide thoughtful conversations about the issues at hand.”
“…. We don’t allow comments that degrade others on the basis of gender, race, class, ethnicity, political beliefs, national origin, religion, sexual orientation, disability or other.”.
With those guidelines in place, it is actually possible to engage in debate with people of wildly varying viewpoints; which is where the good stuff really begins.
You state your case, and it may be opposed, rejected, ridiculed, laughed at, dismissed, or accepted.
But if trolls merely shout at people who are trying to open a debate with an opposing view, no debate can happen, and nothing productive ensues.
You made a good call, Frank.
Good for you, Frank. I’ll never understand what possesses someone to repeatedly post vicious personal attacks and slanderous insults for absolutely no reason on various websites. It’s the sign of a sick mind for sure.
I’m down with that 🙂
Frank, Trump just stole “Kung Flu” from you. I think you should sue. (Unless you picked it up somewhere else.)
Kung Flu has been all over the media, there is less known about the origination of that term than the origin of the actual beer virus. LOL
I wish you had followed through on the comment policy you established back in 2018.
1. No comment will be posted unless/until it has been reviewed by me or a member of the Frank Report staff;
2. Comments that are rude to other commenters will not be posted*;
3. Comments that have nothing to do with the topic of the post on which they’re made will not be posted (If you want to write something about a specific topic that you think is noteworthy, send it to me – and, unless it’s abusive to another reader/commenter, I’ll be happy to publish it); and
4. Commenters that submit multiple comments on the same post will not have all those comments posted (No one reader is going to be allowed to take over the comments section. So, if you submit 10-12 comments on a particular post, you’ll probably see only 2-3 of them published. Be selective and strategic in what you submit. Sometimes, less is more).
Better late than never.
I guess this means Niceguy and his illegitimate spiritual son …..Whose name may resemble a city in Thailand didn’t make the cut…..
Are we banned?
Kidding
Lastly,
I was never a troll for the most part(99%) I only ridiculed Bangkok and Scott….
And….Occasionally Shadow, Frank, Sultan, and Flowers Only because I love them so much.
You are our hero, NiceGuy 666. LOL
Scott I know I am hero; I never slept with [redacted] you have. LOL
Scott,
I know I’m your hero. I have a dick that works and a bank account.
How’re the above-ground pool and the Garage Certified™️ garage?
Scott,
Of course, I’m your hero. I don’t bang ugly chicks.
Frank would rather [redacted].
It’s obvious NiceGuy 666 is [redacted] he is given a compliment. LOL
Bangkok is now one letter away from [redacted]
Ha ha. Even Alex got redacted.
I’m sure it was an innocent oversight on Frank’s part. LOL
However, I would be in favor of Frank banning those who make false claims and don’t admit it when proven wrong, don’t answer questions when asked, etc. After all, if the goal is to raise the level of discourse and pursue the truth, one can’t ignore these issues. LOL
Johnson, Johnson, Johnson. LOL
“Banning people who won’t answer questions”.
My question to you is as follows:
Why do you no longer use your name?
Because you’ve never used your real name. LOL