[Editor’s Note: This story has been updated with additional comments from Heidi Hutchinson as of 12:23 EST Oct. 22, 2019]
Toni Natalie tells a rather embarrassing and disturbing story in her book, The Program Inside the Mind of Keith Raniere and the Rise and Fall of Nxivm – about husband #4, Scott Foley.
It may be a true story – or perhaps it’s a lie. If true, it shows her to be a domestic abuser, perhaps a violent sociopath.
If it is a lie – as so many of her stories are – it is still no credit to her that she wants others to believe she is a spousal abuser.
Toni relates that she first met Scott Foley when he went to work for her as head chef of A Place of Creations Cafe in Saratoga – a vegetarian restaurant that Keith and Toni owned together. Scott, who is 10 years younger than Toni, was married at the time, and Toni says she was still in a relationship with Keith.
Toni describes Scott as “a man’s man, ruggedly handsome” and embarrassingly points out in her book that Scott had a “nice ass.”
Pretty soon she starts an adulterous relationship with Scott and he leaves his wife and child, much like Toni abandoned her child. They married and were together for about 10 years.
Despite her describing Scott as a man’s man, she tells a story of how she wimped him out on her birthday – the last day they were together.
The story sounds a little fantastic – but here it is in Toni’s own words – from her book:
Scott and I took a much-needed and well-deserved vacation, renting a cabin on Canandaigua Lake. I had climbed out of the abyss and was working hard on myself, on my emotional recovery. For the first time in a long time, I felt optimistic. But I didn’t get that vibe from Scott. Even on the drive there, he seemed off—distracted somehow. It was my birthday, August 12, so we went to dinner with some friends. When we got back to the cabin that night, there was an incredible thunderstorm. The bursts of lightning shone purple light on the mountain, and all of that majesty was reflected on the lake. “Come outside,” I told Scott. “You can see God over the mountain.”
“I’m good,” he called from the back bedroom.
But it was too singularly beautiful to be missed. So I went inside to get him. Scott was sitting in bed, blanket over his knees, fiddling with his phone. His thumbs were moving at warp speed. He was so enthralled by whatever he was doing that he didn’t see me come in. When he noticed me, he was startled, and dropped the phone. It wasn’t his phone, I realized. It was a burner, the disposable kind that drug dealers use.
We both went for the phone. We grabbed it at the same time. But he was both stronger and taller, so he pulled it up over his head, and my grip wasn’t tight enough to snatch it. So, I grabbed his scrotum instead.
“Let go of my balls!”
“Let go of the phone!”
“Let go of my balls!”
“Let go of the phone!”
At that moment, my beloved dog, Raymona, cried out and peed on the floor. Worried, I loosened my grip on his balls (if not for Raymona, I could have ripped them clean off). He broke the phone in half, went outside, and hurled it into the darkness. As it flew, a bolt of lightning crashed.
“I’m sorry,” he said. “It’s just—you’re so distant, I barely know you anymore. Samantha makes me feel young, alive. Wanted.”
“Samantha?” I spat the name at him. “Sa/7?a/7tha?”
I packed up his things that night and sent him away. We were done. A few days later, I got an out-of-the-blue Facebook friend request from “Samantha Orr.” She wanted me to know that she was the one who had been texting my husband. As soon as she relayed that message, she vanished. Her profile picture morphed into a faceless egg. Scott had never actually met her in person. He’d been catfished. “Samantha” was a honeypot, I realized, tasked with seducing my husband and ruining our marriage.
In the months that followed, Raymona—whom I loved more than I loved Scott, truth be told—developed a rare medical condition that caused her nails to painfully fallout.
Now even my guard dog had PTSD

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Now, this is a fine story. Not quite sure why she chose to tell it – especially since it reveals herself to be a violent abuser. And if you don’t think her statement that “she could have ripped” his balls off is spousal abuse, then reverse the two. Suppose Scott found Toni in bed texting – and Toni did not want to turn over her phone.
A husband does not have legal authority over his wife’s phone. He can’t require her by force to turn it over. But then there is the morality question. She might be texting someone in an adulterous fashion. Would Scott have had the right to grab Toni by her fake boobs and demand she release the phone?
Of course not.
What if he threatened to tear her boobs off if she did not turn the phone over? Nope, sorry, that’s domestic abuse and he could be arrested.
Toni in her book glorifies domestic abuse – she admits to assault and battery. Is this acceptable? [There was clearly no editorial assistance from the publishers, Grand Central Publishing.]
Scott may be a wimp. He might be a loser. But Toni has no more right to be violent with him than he had a right to be violent with her. If, of course, her story is true.

So I called Scott Foley – the guy whose older wife claims she grabbed him by the scrotum – to ask him about the story.
A man answered Scott’s cell phone. When I identified myself and explained why I was calling, he quickly said he was not Scott – but that Scott didn’t care what was in Toni’s book.
I tried to ask him if he knew what was in the book and the man got rude and said, “Scott doesn’t want you calling anymore.”
I tried to ask him if Scott didn’t care about being abused by his wife and her telling the world about it?
He said again, “Don’t call here anymore!” ’
I said, “OK, Scott, I won’t call anymore.”
This lie of Toni’s might have been the reason Scott was so fearful of talking to me. On the other hand, he might just be a wimp, much like Toni described him to be.
Still, getting past that bit of nonsense that I was being paid by Raniere, I still wanted to find out if the Scott Foley scrotum story was true.
Beyond whether Toni wimped out little Scottie and almost sent him to the hospital – had it not been for her dog Raymona peeing – did Raniere really send in a woman to break up their marriage?
Toni claims that Samantha was a set-up – a fake – a honeypot – sent by Keith. And that Scott never met her.
It may be true.

But Heidi Hutchinson recalls it differently.
After I read to Heidi, Toni’s story, Heidi said, “Oh my God, that is so far out. Even Raymona has to be worked into the honeypot scheme. Does that not sound insane? And God is on her side too. After Scott threw the phone into the woods, the thunder came crashing down.
“From the texts she read, it sure sounded like a true love relationship to me.


Toni’s account above from her novel includes more lies by Toni – beyond what Frank read to me before quoting my reaction.
It gets even worse and far more disparate from ‘Tone’s” original version.
What Toni told me then was that it was her birthday and she’d set the stage for romance in the lakeside cabin she’d tricked out to the envy of their neighbors. Toni rented the place for the Summer of Love she envisioned with Scott, there to heal their relationship from the ravages of NXIVM.
Far from the reaches of Raniere’s influence and, I might add, a younger woman Scott might have been having an affair with — Toni would rekindle their romance. But Scott remained distant.
On the night of her birthday, nature offered an aphrodisiac. A thunderstorm. Toni attempted to seduce Scott, purring, “Don’t you want to do something wild with the thunderstorm?”
In the original dialogue Toni recited to me there was no seeing God over the mountain, etc. It was raw sex, not a Godly manifestation she wanted to share with Scott. Scott was at the ready when she entered the room but he was not entirely alone. Toni ripped back the sheet covering his knees to expose his lover sweetly, effectively sexting him through his secret burner phone. Toni made a grab for the phone Scott held beyond her reach over his head, then she instead made the grab for his manhood and successfully negotiated the release of the evidence that, in fact, disproves her honeypot malarkey.
As I recall, Toni looked Samantha up on Facebook — she had her full name within a few days somehow — probably got much info from the texts on Scott’s burner and researched from there. I think she may have even sent me the FB pages of Samantha suspects. She was scouting for some link to Raniere and NX that just was not apparent as I recall. But she was also talking that week about how to restore her relationship with Scott — all the while looking for some hook into her NX victim narrative for not only herself but her beloved pooch, Raymona, in the final, published version.
Toni, you need some serious mental help.
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[Editor’s Note: Keep in mind that both of Toni Natalie’s stories – the one she told Heidi at the time it happened and the version that made her book could both be false.]

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Scott hates Toni, he won’t talk about her but I will. She’s a cunt and took advantage of him for years. Like Rusty, Scott worked his ass off and gave Toni the life she wanted. Toni’s main focus in life was Keith, always Keith. In 2009, when a group of women left Keith, Toni left Scott emotionally and sexually and stopped working at their restaurant. Scott did everything to bring in money. He got sick of it and was lonely. This is how Toni repays him for years of a good life together. She writes crap about him in her book. Well, Toni, you bitch, Scott loves his new hanger, honey. Like you said, he’s a man’s man and he’s all mine now. At least you got the dog.
WOW! Can you tell us more?
The only part of the story I believe is that Natalie loved her dog more than any human being. It’s the only part that makes sense.
Toni’s a Facebook stalker and a real life stalker too. This is rich.
Total champion of women and ethics.
I hope Chelsea Clinton writes a children’s book about how the world was against Toni but she persisted.
Toni told me essentially the same story she told to Heidi – complete with the visit to the supermarket in Latham to see if Scott and Samantha were there. I have never discussed this with Heidi – yet her recollection of events is the same as mine (My guess is there are others who were told that story too)
At this point, I have no idea why Toni would change this story around the way she did because the new version certainly doesn’t make her look good. Can someone explain that to me?
The story in her book is more dramatic, so she can sell more of them. Any other questions?
Everyone,
Re Toni/Chet paraphrasing a song:
Does anyone happen to remember the song “America the Beautiful”, and the lyrics “purple mountain majesty” referring to mountains in Colorado?
Here is a passage from Toni Natlie’s book, “lightning shone purple light on the mountain, and all of that majesty was reflected on the lake”.
Toni or more likely Chet is basically paraphrasing one of the American National Anthems.
Toni and Scott were not in Colorado or Montana how was the mountain rock purple in New York State? LOL
I know it’s by no means a big deal I just thought it funny and worth sharing.
America has only one national anthem. Mountains can appear to be purple in more than just Colorado or Montana if the lighting/lightning is right.
Scott,
It my understanding that the rocks have to have certain minerals to refract and reflect light from the correct visual spectrum of light i.e. from the electromagnetic spectrum of visible light.
How do you get purple from lightning and a green pine or deciduous forest?
If I am wrong please enlighten me. 😉
Someone should let Mr. Scott know if he doesn’t respond Marie is liable to paint his balls in Toni’s abusive grip.
From the sound of it, the only thing that ruined Toni’s marriage was Toni and her obsession with Keith. Between the drama and the lies, Scott must have been fed up with her and who can blame him.
How many years were they married that she continued obsessing about Keith? Maybe Scott assumed since she was OK with Keith banging anyone he bumped into that Toni would be fine with him doing the same.
How the hell did the dog get PTSD? Was Toni running around in a rage constantly scaring and abusing the dog the way she abused Scott?
Frank-I doubt that you’ll get a reply from Scott. After all, nobody wants to be publicly reminded that they abandoned their child.
Look I just believe Toni. She has the ring of truth in her narrative. Plus she is a very attractive woman for her age. Let me be blunt I’d do her over even Allison Mack. And a Toss up with Nicki Clyne. She has an honest face.
Having fun troll?
I’m not a troll. And I also, like Bob, happen to think Toni is attractive as would any heathy red-blooded American man. Are you gay not to see that? She’s hot.
yeah, your shadow’s ‘abfnt1’ troll and gay as your fake marriage.
Hot? I suppose if you get close enough she’ll burn you.
“abfnt1”
http://en.gravatar.com/abfnt1
So, Nicki, you think that Toni is as sexy as you?
Frankly, I think that Toni has a face that looks like a baseball catcher’s old mitt.
Cracked and leathery.
But from your point of view, Nicki, Toni is an accomplished pathological liar so like Allison she would fit well in NXIVM.
NXIVM sounds like the worst Country Western song ever written.
“My Boy Friend Is Cheating On Me With One Hundred Other Women And I Am OK With That.”
Written and Sung by Allison Mack.
With Forouk as harmony with Hotaling playing the guitar.
Shadow – I just happened to hear a bit of Roy Orbison’s “Only The Lonely” last night. Now the title has morphed into Toni Baloney in my head.
Roy Orbison came from the town of Wink, Texas, a town of less than 1000 people Northwest of Odessa, Texas.
“Wink was a temporary childhood home to singer and songwriter Roy Orbison, although he was born in Vernon, Texas. Orbison later described the major components of life in Wink as “football, oil fields, oil, grease and sand”, and in later years expressed relief that he was able to leave the desolate town”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wink,_Texas
Roy Orbison would know about loneliness coming from Wink, Texas.
And Toni would know about baloney.
Toni’s account above from her novel includes more lies by Toni – beyond what Frank read to me before quoting my reaction.
It gets even worse and far more disparate from Tones original version.
What Toni told me then was that it was her birthday and she’d set the stage for romance in the lakeside cabin she’d tricked out to the envy of their neighbors. Toni rented the place for the Summer of Love she envisioned with Scott there to heal their relationship from the ravages of NXIVM.
Far from the reaches of Raniere’s influence and, I might add, a younger woman Scott might have been having an affair with — Toni would rekindle their romance. But Scott remained distant.
On the night of her birthday, nature offered an aphrodisiac. A thunderstorm. Toni attempted to seduce Scott, purring, “Don’t you want to do something wild with the thunderstorm?”
In the original dialogue Toni recited there was no seeing God over the mountain, etc. It was raw sex not a Godly manifestation she wanted to share with Scott. Scott was at the ready when she entered the room but he was not entirely alone. Toni ripped back the sheet covering his knees to expose his lover sweetly, effectively sexting him through his secret burner phone. Toni made a grab for the phone Scott held beyond her reach over his head, then she instead made the grab for his manhood and successfully negotiated the release of the evidence that, in fact, disproves her honey pot malarkey.
As I recall, Toni looked Samantha up on Facebook — she had her full name within a few days somehow — probably got much info from the texts on Scott’s burner and researched from there. I think she may have even sent me the FB pages of Samantha suspects. She was scouting for some link to Raniere and NX that just was not apparent as I recall. But she was also talking that week about how to restore her relationship with Scott — all the while looking for some hook into her NX victim narrative for not only herself but her beloved pooch, Raymona, in the final, published version.
Toni, you need some serious mental help.
So, Toni found Scott cheating on her and immediately looked for connections to find a NXIVM setup. Most ex-NXIVM members slinked away in the night, didn’t get harassed by Keith & his minions, didn’t help others leave NXIVM, and didn’t assist in the takedown. Heck, why don’t we use our real names on FR? While Toni, Barbara, and Kristin Keeffe are far from perfect, they’ve had to do more looking over their shoulders than most of us could ever dream of. They’ve also helped out more in the battle to stop Raniere than loudmouth people like “g”, Scott Johnson, or myself can lay claim to.
Heidi:
Isn’t NXIVM really the land of Broken Toys as this drawing by MK10Art indicates?
“mk10art
” .Karen Untereiner used to liken the inner people of CBI [#KeithRaniere Consumers Buyline scam he ran before it was shut down and then he went on to create #Nxivm] to the island of misfit toys”
https://www.instagram.com/p/B3xyYZfHDHI/
This page is saying its down. I
No. It works.
Karen U. is a creeper. I don’t care what she thinks about anything.
Since Pam is gone, and we’ve already sorta heard from Kristin, Karen is the one I REALLY want to hear from. Over the years, she’s taken it on the chin on FR, but I don’t know if it was all deserved.
Being associated with Raniere is enough reason to take it on the chin.
He had her wrapped around his finger. But, how could any lady resist that pudgy little stud…
Nutjob,
You make 100% valid points that cannot be debated.
When someone publishes a book for public consumption with lies, they open themselves up to be ridiculed and critiqued. It is what happens to just about every literary work of nonfiction ever published.
An example would be “American Sniper…”, by Kris Kyle.
Kyle is a hero by anyone’s standards, but he did lie in his book and as a consequence, he was publicly criticized and ridiculed.
If you want to be a public persona, you have to take the good with the bad.
******
Ask Frank Parlato about being a public figure. Apparently Frank has been a double agent for Nxivm this entire time. That’s right! Frank has been a minion of Vanguard and the secret leader of The Society of Protectors. 😉
(I’m completely kidding about that!)
😉
When you buy a non-fiction book, you expect it to be factual. The crazy embellishments and lies were not needed. Chet and Toni should have kept those things out and added more interesting insider info. It was like they were writing a “based on a true story” movie script instead of a non-fiction book. Surprisingly(?), they then get bombarded with people calling out the untruths. And instead of the reader getting 500 pgs of unknown tidbits and character development, we get 283 pgs of someone trying to sell movie rights.to a book.
Toni and Chet deserving criticism is one thing. But, I’d bet if commenters used their real names on FR, much of the ridicule they receive would be classier.
Nutjob,
Real identities?
Then the criticism would be classier by 10 raised to the tenth power.
😉
Nutjob,
RE Bangkok’s absence:
Bangkok’s parents have shared custody 50/50 custody. His mom is less strict with no rules and his dad is strict with rules…….
6 month or 3 month shared custody cycles…..
The truly sad thing is that on Amazon the book almost completely police glowing reviews: “Toni is so strong. She is so brave. Toni is a wonderful mother.” I am not sure if Amazon is just not posting bad reviews or if this is further proof people really are that gullible.
I posted a bad review so we will see.
“he went to work for her as head chef of A Place of Creations Cafe in Saratoga – a vegetarian restaurant that Keith and Toni owned together. ”
Just an observation.
What is it with these vegetarians and vegans?
It seems that almost everyone in NXIVM is a vegetarian or vegan.
Does lack of good healthy meat in a person’s diet result in craziness?
My brother and father are both vegetarians and have been for decades.
And they don’t act half as crazy as the vegetarians and vegans in NXIVM.
As for Toni her affair with Scott started as an adulterous relationship.
She knew that he was married and had children and those facts did not prevent Toni from breaking up that marriage.
So why should she be shocked and offended that he has another adulterous relationship?
Completely agree with your comment on infidelity. If a relationship starts on that basis there should be no surprise when it ends that way. If someone cheats on his wife to be with you, he is likely to cheat on you too – later. Why people think otherwise is beyond me.
We’ll probably never know the whole story but who cares…
Shadowstate,
Scott Foley looks as much like a vegetarian as Scott Johnson looks like a vegan. LOL
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Scott if you read this comment don’t get too excited and pitch a tent. I was just paying you a simole compliment and nothing else.
There is nothing wrong with batting for the other team as long as it’s not in my league.
😉
Shadowstate the biggest problem vegetarians and vegans alike suffer is how to get enough vitamin B12. It it is almost impossible to get vitamin B that does not come from animal byproducts. Or at least that is my understanding.
ducks in a row Nice Guy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marmite
Anonymous,
I sincerely do appreciate the link!!!
Thanks!!!!
Ignorance is not bliss. 😉
Your brother and father probably eat more than 600 calories a day.
Scott,
Ha ha ha ha ha!!!!
Actually swallowing everything that “comes”, your way is your depart.
Scott or Mr. YMCA Cowboy I hope you have a nice night.
😉
It’s not domestic abuse if a woman does it to a man. It’s cool. #metooToni. Way to go girl.
This sounds like a true story. I believe her. Keith messed up her marriage. .
This sounds like one of those flat-line nxivm trolls. Wattup? run out of snuff movies?
I think I love Toni Natalie she rocks. I think she tells the truth. She’s beautiful. Her story is essentially the same in her book and what she told Heidi. Little differences like whether she got the phone or Scott broke it don’t matter. She’s our heroine. So beautiful. Her teacher was right when she dropped out of 10th grade (or 12th what’s the difference. It was 25 years ago ). She is beautiful!
And it WAS a honeypot operation. You know how I know. No one would be with another woman if they could be with Toni Natalie. Unless Keith set up a catfish and snagged Scott. I bet he cries every night because he lost the best woman in the world. Sucker. I love you Toni.
Hey, Doc! Do you have any cash? Maybe you can be her 6th husband. Go for it!
I am reasonably well off and single. I resent being called a troll. I live and practice medicine in Wichita and you can easily look me up. I adore Toni. I read her book and I think she is not only beautiful but intelligent too. And her heroism is inspiring to me. If stories alter a little in insignificant ways I would go with her book version. She had time to do fact-checking and the stories she told her friends like Joe and Heidi are subject to faded memories on their parts. I trust Toni.
You’re a troll. I did look you up as requested, there are Dr’s Scott, Michael, Garry, Sam, Charles, Andrew but alas, no Gastone. Oui?
She’s a liar. You’re welcome.
You are Shadow’s ‘abfnt1’ troll, Gassed one. How many psychopaths does it take to tell a joke?
(tumbleweed across aeons.)
“Hey, Doc! Do you have any cash? Maybe you can be her 6th husband. Go for it!”
Doctor Gastone Porter is already married to Allison Mack.
Dr. Gastone Porter is Nicki Clyne. (abfnt1)
ROTFLMAO