By Frank Parlato;
Some people think that Kristin Kreuk left the cult of NXIVM in 2009.
That is untrue.
Just to get our facts straight, numerous sources, who were members of NXIVM at the time, tell me that Kristin Kreuk was active in NXIVM throughout 2011 and into 2012.
Blogger John Tighe published a NXIVM coaches list in August 2011. We can believe it was authentic since he was convicted of computer trespassing involving NXIVM’s computers.
Kreuk was not only a member but she was listed as a NXIVM coach as of August 2011. That means she taught other students the secret teachings of the cult.
She was listed as follows on the NXIVM coaches list:
– Kristin Laura Kreuk
– Vancouver, BC
– email: n/a
– Day:
– Eve: 778-998-1692
– Cell:
– Fax: 604-736-5550
– Birthday: Dec-30
– Rank: Yellow, 2 stripes
– Referred by: Mark Hildreth
– Coach: [Name redacted]
Kristin was named as a member of NXIVM in Feb. 2012 by the Albany Times Union in a series called “Secrets of NXIVM”.
That series detailed, among other things, how Keith Raniere used celebrities to add glamour and allure to his secret teachings. It was the same series that had on-the-record interviews with women whom Raniere raped as girls.
Kristin did not seek a clarification or retraction from the Times Union as far as is known. The stories still appears online. A simple comment to the Times Union saying she is no longer a member would have resulted in a clarification.
Today, depending on your point-of-view of right and wrong, she may or may not have a moral or ethical obligation to speak out against the practices of the cult of Raniere, but, as NXIVM’s former publicist, I know she was used – more so than Allison Mack – as a NXIVM recruitment tool, and a draw for those who wanted to meet her.
I remember speaking with one radio show host who was eager to promote a NXIVM a-Cappella event – if he could have Kristin on the show. I set it up and he plugged the hell out of it.
This photo was taken on or about June 18, 2012.
Allison Mack promoted the photo above on social media. Kristin, I am told, was still in NXIVM at the time. She is seen here with ex-boyfriend [a NXIVM member until recently] actor, Mark Hildreth, and, if I am not mistaken, actress Nicki Clyne [a current NXIVM member and member of their subgroup DOS, that hot iron brands women].
Sources say Kristin Kreuk left NXIVM shortly after this photo was taken. This suggests she has been out of NXIVM for about 5.5 years.
To date, she has made no public comment about NXIVM. A Google search of her name and NXIVM returns 7,120 results.
This comment on Reddit expresses how more than a few people feel about it.
I’ve totally fallen down the rabbit hole with this story. The more I google the worse it gets! I can’t believe all these semi-famous women are part of this cult and even recruiting other women as virtual sex slaves for this creep.
Screw Kristin Kreuk for slamming Harvey Weinstein while keeping quiet about her own past as a recruiter for a rapist, screw Allison Mack for being compliant with having her own initials branded on women, and especially screw Keith Raniere for his horrific crimes against women!
This story needs to be blown wide open: start with frankreport.com. Craziness…
get over it already frank lol
A couple points to ponder.
Being in the same business as Kristen, I can say that it’s not unfathonable to imagine she could easily disappear for even a couple years as she is busy with work, then trying to line up schedules etc. I’ve been there. I’ve seen beautiful relationships slip away because of my own lack of time and effort into them because I’ve been focused so heavily on my work. For those not in the business, just to put some context to this. When I was at my busiest, just a few years back, I’d easily put in a full years worth of work hours for the average person in just a little over 6 months. Imagine if I did that same sort of schedule for a couple years?
The last time I did that it was over three years ago and I sadly watched friendships dwindle and I was clueless to my own impact and by the end was rewarded with near fatal disease. Because I allowed my work to consume me.
Sometimes distance makes the world clearer.
It’s possible that with some distance it took her a while to come to the place she needed to be.
It’s quite possible that it took her two to three years to get her shit together to make a clean break. It doesn’t mean that she didn’t consider herself “out” for all that time. Just because she was someone’s list of coaches within the timeframe she was supposed to be out. The same could be said about Grace or Mark, were months after the shit hit this waste of an organization still promoted them in their conversations series or whatever the hell it was.
I did a five day and a few Ethos classes just before the shit hit the fan. It was clear I was on the wrong path when that ALM happensd. But here I sit, a year after the five day wondering if I will ever heal from the mind fuck. My actions, coming out of my very brief stint inside, and all the players involved in that with me, has left me still fucked from the experience. Yes, to those who know who I am. I’m still fucked by it. And I realize that little or none of the shit that transpired for me afterward would have happened without the influence of ESP and those involved. I’ve lost dearly.
So, I cannot imagine what it would have been like had i been a true believer For a decade. I’m still embarrassed that I allowed myself to be dragged into this and crushed by what it turned me into.
If I had a career that was built on public perception, I too would be hard pressed to be open and public. I don’t have the kind of career that has a public face, but I can say that me being open about what happened to me to date has caused my career to shrink. I know that people who know what I went through last year still look at me a sideways. Some no longer trust me. Imagine what that would have been like had I spent a decade promoting the course. And I was a public figure who’s career dependable on perception.
I can only I’m agine how crushing that would be for me to deal with today.
I saying try some compasssion in this.
What this post highlights, followed by some of the comments, is that Expians are willing to tear each other down coming from their own self righteousness and hurt. All that sits at the core of these argument is who is more right about the facts than the next person.
These are the wrong arguments to be focusing on.
I have known Kristen for about 17 years. I worked closely with her at the beginning of her career. We were never close. I don’t have any sort of relationship with her although we’ve spoken occasionally over the last 15 years.
What I can tell you from my position is that none of the what Kristen has or hasn’t done or the way she’s handled herself through all of this is the slightest bit contradictory to who she has always been.
I know her just well enough to know she’s always held her cards VERY close to her chest.
This is a strategy that has always served her well in her life and career. Unless you’re in her inner circle, no one is going to get deep with her about anything.
Now perhaps Frank, you have insider information that is more specific and is not in the post. Something more than supposition that you either cannot talk about or are cautious to speak of. But until we have all the facts, why is anyone spending any energy on the idea that her own timeline needs to be something else to satisfy the expectations of others. Unless of course there is a conspiracy theory floating around that she’s still in it and is a shadow puppet master.
I don’t believe she is at all. That’s my take on it. So if I believe that truly, her timeline is unimportant in the grand scheme of things and these are all the wrong arguments to be spending any amount of time on right now. Because the timing of Kristen’s departure has no bearing on the end goal here. The goal of having KR and his lackies to face the music.
All it serves is the egos of those arguing on the internet. Who is right and who is wrong about irrelevant dates.
Bigger fish to fry folks.
My two pesos worth.
The Wiz.
I’m sorry for the mind warp this cult put you through. You shouldn’t blame yourself though. Sociopaths rely on the good nature of people to manipulate them. I’ve expressed my anger at some people for being in this group and I realized it was wrong. They aren’t really at fault. They made a bad decision in retrospect with good intentions.
VanDouche will get his in the end. Don’t you worry about that.
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Great points. I thoroughly agree. Us arguing with each other and willing to tear each other down serves against our own best interests.. in really enables those still in feel more righteous about what they are doing… keeping the locks in place in the viscous cycle of abuse, rather than opening them up.
In all seriousness, I do wonder why neither Allison Mack or Kristin Kreuk have responded to the allegations to their participation in NXIVM and all of the other subgroups/coaching/recruiting that they were involved with. I can’t believe either woman would want their name associated with such an abusive cult/organization, especially with all of the stories coming out about their treatment of women. Very strange indeed.
You may have answered your own question there. Who would want to be associated with this group?
And if the only people who REALLY know you were are the handful of people inside this shit organization, why WOULDN’T you hide it. Seriously. Our NXIUM bubble is minuscule compared to the public who know nothing of it. Even based on the news reports. We all read it and create our giant worlds around it. But in the big picture, if they don’t speak out, it will all likely blow over after some time and they are never really on record speaking out, anywhere, so to mitigate the impact on ones career, staying silent until you can no longer stay silent is not a bad strategy. Just a thought.
I had always suspected Kristin had left shortly after the TU article in 2012. There was too much information to deny or turn your head to as rumor at that point. It was shortly after this time that pilot season was starting in Hollywood and she had landed the role as lead on the TV series Beauty and the Beast around April of 2012. Being a lead on TV series doesn’t leave much time for extraneous activities in one’s personal life, especially participating in a time-consuming cult. This effectively gave her an excuse to get out without drama. Cults often try to pull you back in if you leave, especially if they consider you important. And it is no doubt to me that Kristin was on Raniere’s boil the frog to “fuck list”. The only reason 2009 seems to have some credibility as a viable time of her departure is because of what Susan Donnes said in the Hollywood Life article. Susan said Kristin left shortly after that time frame. Typically that doesn’t mean three years later in 2012.
However, none of the information you have provided here really verifies that she left at the latter time. Just because John Tighe had a coaches list in 2011 doesn’t mean they were active. John Tighe did some good work in being a public face to his alleged anonymous sources of former NXIVM members. Too bad his acerbic style and general assholishness allowed the NXIVM crew to use it against him among their sheep, and that fact that he was indicted and accepted a plea for child pornography charges didn’t help the cause even if it has nothing to do with the truth of the claims against the group.
Acapella Innovations effectively died in 2008 and Kristin didn’t even attend because she was filing “Street Fighter”. She only went to the one in 2007 which according to participants who attended both wasn’t even “cult-like” as the one in 2008 became according to college students who attended both complained about in posts on the rarb.org forum. That was actually one of the primary complaints of some of them which initiated the entire series of posts there.
Also, just to emphasize again, being a coach in a self-improvement group that is a front for a cult doesn’t necessitate one’s participation in its nefarious activities. The TU article mentions that she was a member but gives no time frame. It also mentions Linda Evans, but to my knowledge she was a participant in some courses well before 2009 and wasn’t really ever active in it. Also, a photo taken in 2012 with members she had been friends with for years doesn’t say anything. I mean, she was still friends with them and is still friends with Mark. I don’t know what Kristin’s personal relationship currently is with Allison, but she used to be part of a three member women’s production company called Parvati Creative (I think this is the name) with another of Kristin’s friends named Rosena Bhura. Allison became no longer a part of it as she went further down the rabbit hole of NXIVM, and Kristin used to follow Allison on Twitter, but I don’t see her anymore listed as being followed on her account.
You own a journalistic website. It should be easy enough to reach out to her publicist and get a confirmation as to when she left if nothing more than that and doesn’t want to speak to her involvement in NXIVM for personal and/or even legal reasons, e.g., she doesn’t want to get sued out of her money.
So where are the Kreuk defenders with the “Kristin left years ago, she didn’t know any dark secrets, she only recruited three people!” The truth hurts, doesn’t it!
The woman was in way deeper in the cult then any of her fans want to admit and this is just proof. I hope she talks to authorities and takes an active role in helping the brainwashed escape like she did.
I guess you don’t know how to read. You’re just hear to lambaste Kreuk.
The above Times-Union article mentions Roger Stone as an Espian. I guess that’s where he learned ethics.
From MediaMatters:
“Roger Stone is a longtime friend and ally of presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump. Stone has a decades-long history of employing political dirty tricks, and he regularly spouts violent, racist, and sexist rhetoric, including calling Hillary Clinton a “cunt” and advocating her execution. He is a discredited researcher and conspiracy theorist who claims the Clintons and Bushes secretly murdered dozens; the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 is “suspicious”; President Lyndon Johnson killed President John F. Kennedy; President George H.W. Bush tried to assassinate President Ronald Reagan; and the Clintons killed John F. Kennedy Jr.”
I still think Raniere and Trump have or will have a personal connection–they are so much alike.
It always puzzled me as an outsider that there was always doubt or conflicting info on when KK left.
How could this celeb–this most famous active Espian–leave, and hundreds of members not notice if and when she had left.
“Anyone see Kristin lately?”
“Yeah, she was around here last week…or maybe it was three years ago.”
Puzzling…..