“Saratoga In Decline” broke Lover Lama Tenzin and Sara Bronfman story

Wonder if Lama Tenzin Dhonden is telling the Dalai, I did not have sexual relations with that woman?

If it’s true there were stains on the robe, hope he didn’t save it like Monica did.

Maybe he did so he can sell it on eBay when Sara save humanity.

Does any know if the baby lama is still hanging out with NXIVM or staying at Sara Button Road house?

Contributions to the Trust can be made through its office at:

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In 2007, Keith Raniere conceptualized the Ethical Humanitarian Foundation, a private, not-for-profit foundation supporting endeavors that promote embracing humanity, developing ethics, and moving humankind towards a more noble civilization. In August 2008, he conceptualized the World Ethical Foundations Consortium (WEFC), a non-profit initiative dedicated to the building of a compassionate, ethical humanity. More recently, in September 2008, he conceptualized In Lak’ Ech-a non-violence civil movement in Mexico-after having met with a group of concerned citizens native to that country. The movement seeks to transform the violence-ridden nation through active, non-violent protest and compassion.

In April, 2009, the WEFC-supported by the Ethical Humanitarian Foundation-hosted its first major public event in Albany, NY. The inaugural event is to culminate in a public talk by His Holiness The Dalai Lama in Albany on May 6, 2009.

You should do sales for NXVIM or maybe you do? This sounds so good that I need this program to better myself as a person on this planet.

I’m ready to sell my house, cash in my stocks, and give Keith my new born to pay for all the courses. I’ll lose weight, grown my hair long. (Do I have to shave me legs and cut off my pee pee for Keith to have me in his inner circle of girls?)

I think the question here is how were all these business paid for, where do their profits go and who is making the money (or do they make money or just shuffle funds around)?

Hey Mr. AG and Ms. IRS are you looking into this?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/16/opinion/16brooks.html?src=me&ref=general

It’s been a hell of a couple of week for Keith, Nancy and their followers;

Baby Lama, Unnamed child, attorney’s who write love letters to blog guys than spend massive hours and making money for hanging out on your blog. Great way to pay for all that coffee with bags of donuts holds from Albany’s favorite donut shop waiting for the next posted comment. Can you say “Cha-Ching”?

Then there is, “Will the legal mother unnamed child real mother please stand up” Unnamed who’s your daddy?

I’m sure the NXIVM camp has advanced human ability so that “stick and stone may break a bones but words can never hurt me” type of ability. If not maybe a few law suits will cure their “your hurt my feelings” syndrome.

John I look forward to your comic book about NXIVM Super Hero’s. If you were a NXIVM Super Hero who would you be?

You’ve taken a noble position in your independence day article, identifying the value of freedom of expression, and you’ve claimed your motivation for this blog and it’s content to be an appreciation for your community and care for your life and the lives of those around you.

I can get on board with that. Your last several NXIVM pieces have been critical, but relatively benign in nature. You’ve laid forth the information for others to consider. A valuable service, and certainly in keeping with the spirit in which I have read your articles believing you intended.

But this article has gone to an unfortunate place. Unless you have clear evidence (and you admit you don’t, and when you do you nearly always post links to it) that Ms. Bronfman has had an intimate relationship with Llama Tenzin, claiming such is mean spirited at best, and highly destructive at worst.

Painting her with this brush is irresponsible. You don’t respect her, that’s fine. You don’t agree with how she chooses to spend her time and money, that’s clear. Fair criticisms both. But for me you’ve lost your credibility and respectability now. Now you’re talking like a schoolyard bully out to ruin someone’s reputation. It’s hate-mongering, mudslinging, and character assassination at it’s worst.

Why couldn’t you just treat this issue like you have others. Present facts and allow conclusions to be drawn?

Of ALL the subject matter discussed here, you feel that the implication of (oh my GOD) sexual relations between Sara and baby Lama is the most ‘destructive’ and will ‘ruin’ someone’s ‘reputation?’ Do you actually READ anything on this blog, ever? If half of what’s been posted here over the past year or so is true, Sara is not just a poor, misled girl who mis-spends her time and money, she’s a full-blown sonofabitch piece of shit FELON who deserves to be imprisoned for what she’s done. What about the ‘reputations’ and LIVES she’s helped ruin by financing the NXIVM legal attacks? And for Christ’s sake, the damage done to the Dalai Lama’s reputation for simply having his name attached to these criminals is FAR more unfortunate for him than whether or not one of his minions got his pole shined by the ‘cute’ Bronfman.

You call it “hate-mongering, mudslinging, and character assassination at it’s worst?” To you, I give a hearty FUCK YOU for trying to discredit the author for doing what he’s been doing for months: offering information that he is given and letting the readers decide.

Someone accusing the author of ‘character assassination’ in reference to NXIVM is actually the textbook definition of IRONY, cause they are among the most vicious hate-mongers walking the planet today.

Tell the story, express your opinion, differentiate between the two. You’ve shown you know how to do that. If anything by bothering to make a post identifying the difference I’ve given you credit for having that capacity.

I suppose it depends on what you’re trying to accomplish really. You’ve written articles that have caused me to consider this organization and what they’re doing. It’s given me information I can use to open up lines of discussion with members of NXIVM. This article did not accomplish that.

You, the author has the compositional and rhetorical competence to be aware of what you’re doing with your articles. I can understand the desire to satisfy the fans who hunger for increasingly salacious information, but you don’t need to create where there may not be any.

If you’re working for the benefit of the community as you say, then do so, understanding that these NXIVM people are part of our community. Use your skills to help everyone question what’s happening, even them.

If you just hate them and are going to do and say anything you can to hurt and damage them, well, at least declare it and let the reader enjoy your talent as entertainment.

The assassination of an assassin is still assassination. Washing the blood off one’s hands with the blood on another’s is never effective.

That kind of money along with the glamor and celebrity can be a very intoxicating and corrupting.

I never would have run it if I didn’t believe it to be true, I also quite sure Sara wouldn’t have banged a poor monk begging for alms in a Bangkok slum.

Every organization needs a good top to bottom shakedown and nobody is beyond reproach.

I hope this story breaks out for many reasons not the least of which is it will be good for the Dalai Lamas organization as a whole

But the author was extremely clear about the fact that there’s no way to confirm 100% whether or not a sexual relationship took place. Just like every other article he’s written lately about NXIVM, he’s merely repeating what his sources have told him. Again, I honestly don’t know if you’ve been reading this blog or not, if you think that this article is somehow dramatically different from similar articles here.

And you stated that for you, the author lost his ‘credibility,’ which, by definition, implies that you have ‘discredited’ him, in your mind. By accusing him of merely being a ‘schoolyard bully’ out to ruin people’s reputations, you are further attempting to discredit him, under the guise of simply ‘expressing personal dissatisfaction.’

And again, I’m not sure why an accusation of sexual impropriety would offend your sensibilities so much. It’s just people boning each other. It’s far more offensive to me that the Dalai Lama would actually stand onstage and act pleased to be there with VanFraud and the Bronfman Brats.

But if you are offended at the fact that it may paint the Lama in a bad light, that’s your problem. Personally, I consider myself a deeply spiritual person and I find the Dalai Lama hero worship in the western world to be fucking stomachturning at best. Seeing otherwise intelligent people fawning and speaking in reverent tones about some rockstar religious leader makes my skin crawl. The Dalai Lama is just another clown heading up another silly religion, and the story of Tibet and his involvement in it is FAR more complicated and sinister than the widely accepted fairytale that has the Dalai Lama doing no wrong.

It appears that you do not fully understand what it takes to win a “war” or a battle. When you are in a fight those who fight dirty, lie to their followers, cover up the truth of what their organization mission truly is, preaches one thing than does another you cannot always have a “ladies and gentlemen’s” battle because they will kick you in the balls.

The dirty fighter will almost always win and leave lots of carnage in the path until they are taken down. Why, they will throw sand in your face when it’s not in the rules of Gentlemen fighting. They will trip the runner, why because they cannot win in a fair race. They will blind side someone with a legal case that holds no real grounds just because they have the money to do so.

Sometime to win the war, one must step up and use tactics that the other side uses.
Based on what is being said on this blog, Rick Ross Cult Education forum, new articles and from what ex-member are saying, NXIVM is way ahead of the “game” by not providing clear evidence in their Nobility. They seem to speak out against members who question Keith and Nancy, way ahead in their law suits against ex-members or people such as Rick Ross.

Take off your rose color glasses and read the legal documents (there are many that are public) they tell a great deal about how NXIVM fights.

Read Mucumazahn post on Rick Ross he spells out how NXIVM works with their members to have their way with them.

I find it interesting that you would come to NXIVM and Sara’s defense and accuse this blogs writer of being mean spirited at best, and highly destructive at worst.

What’s the down side of this article? People are either going to believe it as truth, think it’s possible or think it’s total bullshit.

Does this article hold a candle to the mean spirited and highly destructive behaviors done by the “other side?”

It also appears that what you want to blame John T for is what you are doing with your post of him.

There is no nobility in a war for truth and justice in this type of situations. For you to believe there is in dealing with this kind of group, you are either brain washed to believe this is possible when dealing with the such bullies and con artist or you are a Barbie or Ken doll who lives in a plastic world of can’t we all just be Noble.

Sometime you have to stand up to the school yard bully by fighting back and kicking his ass. When this happens and only when this happens than will all the kids on the play ground be safe from the bully.

Is the kid who took on the bully now a bully. No he / she becomes the hero and only behaved this way to protect the other kids and themselves. He / she is just sick and tired of being afraid and having his / her friends being afraid of the bully, gets up the courage and fight for justice.

Nobility only takes place when all parties agree to uphold truth, honesty, justice and act noble.

Is Noble the way NXIVM, Keith, Nancy, Sara and Clare Bronfman, the leaders and followers act? If so, where’s your proof? I say put up the proof or shut up.

Even the Dalia Lama suggested that NXIVM become transparent to show they are not the people the public and ex-members were / are saying they are. If they were such people to admit their wrong doings and clean up their act.

They wouldn’t even invite John (or the Troopers) into Nancy’s party for some kool-aid and show him the Noble, civilized group they say they are.

Nope they sent over a couple of men to have a chat with John, had some women take pictures of him and called the trooper on him.

You are either a supporter of NXIVM and clearly a wolf in sheep’s clothing as someone who isn’t or it’s time to get off your Nobel high horse, grow up and learn some street fighting skills (or stay out of the way of those that are willing to do it for you) because this isn’t Disney World Baby.

Go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story.

Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain and bitter; for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.

Exercise caution in your business affairs; for the world is of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals; and everywhere life is full of heroism. Be yourself. Especially, do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is perennial as the grass.

Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth. Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness. Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself.

You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should. Therefore be at peace with your soul. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy.

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