By Richard Luthmann
The Department of Justice wants defendants to take pleas. It’s as simple as that. They do not want trials, they want pleas.
The Brooklyn Metropolitan Detention Center (MDC) is designed to help the DOJ get what it wants.
The plan is blatant and obvious. The MDC is designed to wear down defendants who do not make bail. It is a slow torture, as a defendant waits the long months, and sometimes years, for their not-so-speedy federal trials.
Keep in mind that almost all residents of the MDC are defendants, who have not been convicted.
While the DOJ spouts the notion that they are committed to upholding that a defendant is innocent until he is proven guilty, they use the MDC to torture those supposedly innocent-until-proven- guilty defendants into pleading guilty.
They lock defendants in the highest level of security, equivalent, or worse than a United States Penitentiary.
Consider, the defendant awaiting trial is experiencing the worst prison conditions before conviction. It will get better as soon as he pleads guilty.
By punishing defendants before trial with sickening conditions, it does not take long for defendants to realize the quicker they stop pursuing their due process rights, and plead guilty, whether guilty or not, the faster they are out of that hell-hole jail and designated to a better prison facility.
Is MDC Really That Bad? And Is It Intentionally Bad to Weaken, Demoralize Detainees Awaiting Trial?
Life at the MDC means minimal liberty. Most of the time, you are locked in your cell. On weekdays, you are let out in the morning at six, and on weekends, at 10:00 am.
Defendants at MDC are returned to their cells at about 3:30 pm for a 4 pm afternoon count. They remain in their cells for two hours, until about 5:30 pm, when they are let out again for dinner.
At about 9:30 pm, they return to the cells. Then there’s a count at 10 pm. After that, you are in for the night, locked in a cell until the guards open the doors in the morning.
On a good day, you get out of the cells. On a bad day, when there’s some power issue or gang fight, the building is locked down, and you’re in that cell for 24 hours a day. Lockdown could last for days and weeks.
I was at the MDC in January and February 2019, when a generator exploded, and inmates were locked down for weeks in sub-human conditions. There was no heat, no hot water, the venting systems were moldy and terrible, and no electricity.
Outside it was sub-zero freezing temperatures.
Leticia James, the Attorney General in the State of New York, came to see what was going on. I was there the day she toured the MDC.
She recognized me and came over to speak. I had known her for years from New York State politics. I remember giving her a huge hug and saying, “Tish, thank you so much for coming here. This means you’re going to shine a light on this because everyone in that building has gone through over a month’s worth of misery.”
It brought attention, yes. But the DOJ did not want to solve the problems.
Once Tish left, they heaved a sigh of relief and hoped she would not come back, for she has a reputation for caring about people. Tish zealously defends due process and does something about it, not seeing the innocent take plea deals because they were coerced or tortured into it. She is a rare and honest prosecutor who cares more about justice than conviction stats.
Luthmann sent Tish James a letter referencing her 2019 visit to prisoners at the Brooklyn MDC.
I wrote to New York Attorney Letitia James, “You gave me hope during a dark time in my life, and I will always be thankful.”
But as for the DOJ prosecutors, they probably danced for joy when the power went out, and people were almost freezing.
All the quicker, they will take plea deals.
I can’t tell you how many innocent defendants threw in the towel after the big freeze, locked in their cells, knowing that every other prison in America had heat, lights, and warm food.
And yes, it is true, the MDC is still in no better condition.
But that is not Leticia James’ fault. She brought attention to the conditions, and at least the public was put on notice. But she represents New York State. And in general, the public does not care.
The US DOJ runs the MDC. And they care. They care to make the MDC the worst it can be. It’s business.
And unlike James, a jewel among prosecutors, the DOJ prosecutors are not interested in due process, in giving a defendant a fair shot if he or she is innocent, and getting that result called justice.
The DOJ is interested in being known publicly as caring about justice and hoary due process. Privately, prosecutors want to win at any cost.
When I was at MDC, I knew guys there who I believed were innocent of the wildly inflated charges and some innocent of every charge.
I was one of them. I knew that if I had been on the outside and if my bail hadn’t been revoked based on a letter stating my political positions, I would have had a fighting chance to prove my innocence.
Most of them, including myself, took plea deals. It happens all the time. Innocent people in the federal system take plea deals.
The DOJ has the system down so they can pretend to respect due process and fool the public. In reality, the prosecutors want to win. This is why the DOJ routinely overcharges defendants. When they do that, the plea offer will look mighty good.
And this is why they punish defendants who exercise their right to trial. If the defendant loses, he gets punished far more harshly than if he took a plea deal.
And best of all, the prosecutors will fight to put a defendant in pretrial custody – exaggerating or outright lying about what they believe is the danger or flight risk.
For they know, if the defendant is in jail, it makes their job easier.
If the defendant is inside MDC, the institution will torture him, and the chance of him going to trial is slim, as long as they delay and torture.
Even if the defendant goes to trial, he will be physically broken from the bad food, no fresh air, no sunlight, mold, rats, and cockroaches. The horrible conditions of the MDC make it hard for a defendant to prepare for a trial.
They make it hard for attorneys to consult with clients. Delaying them, then putting them in a room with clients where mold and vermin seem to be coming out of the vents and clinging to the walls, where there may very well be Government listening devices.
Attorneys do not like to visit clients at MDC.
But the best part is that the DOJ will tell the public how dedicated they are to preserving the rights of defendants while making pretrial holding centers, like MDC, worse for innocent-until-proven-guilty defendants than the worst of their prisons.
If you think that is an accident – that the Brooklyn MDC is worse than maximum security prisons, and it has nothing to do with deliberate design, a torture plan meant to prompt plea deals – then you are the kind of person I want to discuss making a different kind of deal.
I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I would like to sell you cheaply.
Like the DOJ prosecutors say, once they get a guy into MDC, I’ll make you an offer you can’t refuse.
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I know a handful of sweet middle aged ladies who went to that protest peacefully and ended up arrested temporarily. After released. One of them was then later subjected to a total nightmare. The FBI broke down her door in California calling her a friggin terrorist! She had been smoking dr prescribed medical marijuana was so scared and got so paranoid she was hiding under her desk. The FBI ransacked and destroyed 60k worth of her property looking for her phone. They took this frail, older woman and literally pulled her out and threw her across the room, hurting her hip and head. She said she was so scared she pissed herself. They didn’t care, just wanted her phone. Then they took her in front of her house and put handcuffs on her with no grounds for arrest. This caused division in the neighborhood.
The FBI never proved that she did anything wrong. She never got her phone back and they never compensated her for the $60,000 dollars worth of damage they brought on her home. They never assumed liability for hurting her hip or for traumatizing her.
All she did was go to support her cause with other ladies. She did absolutely nothing wrong.
[…] DOJ Uses Brooklyn MDC to Torture Defendants Into Plea Deals […]
*This reply is responding to Niceguy’s comments to Richard down below (on the January 6th topic).
Niceguy, Richard is correct and you are wrong.
You and Ice-Nine are acting like ignorant children.
To suggest that the majority of those UNARMED January 6th protesters honestly believed that they were there to “storm the capitol building” and “physically challenge” the DC police (along with the US national guard) in an effort to “overthrow our government” is a testament to how stupid the left-wing media is. lol.
Even if those rioters delayed the election certification by a few hours or even a few days, that’s not a SERIOUS attempt to “overthrow the government” or elections. lol.
It’s just a bunch of idiots making their voices heard.
Most of them were there to vent their anger and had no clue what was gonna go down later —- since it was a disorganized group of idiots.
They didn’t even do 1% of the damage that Antifa rioters do.
Most of them were likely just walking around inside the building, casually, else the damage would have been MUCH worse.
Even the FEW idiots with guns were not SERIOUSLY trying to ‘overthrow’ the government, LOL, since a few itty-bitty guns ain’t enough to take over the US government or prevent a new president from being certified.
Heck, even a few M1 tanks couldn’t come close to doing that, LOL.
It’s amazing that a person with your intelligence has allowed himself to believe in the same fairy tales that idiotic liberals (like Ice-Nine and Erasend) believe in.
It’s so funny how polarizing this topic is.
Normal adults have reduced their thought patterns to something equivalent to a child’s thought patterns.
Use your COMMON SENSE people.
Have a good day. 🙂 🙂
Responding to Bangkok’s comment about Niceguy’s comments to Richard (on the January 6th topic): The left-wing media isn’t “stupid”. It has done and still does exactly what it was designed to do. You three blokes, Ice-Nine, myself and most everyone else (except for Frank, maybe) all act like ignorant children who grew up under a “conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses”. How did that happen?
Edward Bernays wrote in Propaganda: “The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. …We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. …In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons…who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.”
The results of that masterful manipulation look a lot like the politics and cults we laugh about and mock. If we’re going to keep mocking, we should hurry up and mock the criminally insane people who programmed us to turn against each other.
Notice how we Insult each other, but we don’t discuss the larger ring behind NXIVM? Most commenters don’t mention the patterns of politics that enabled groups like NXIVM since the 1950s. The kind of people who use sophisticated scientific methods to polarize entire populations in order to divide and conquer nations planned the January 6th event. They are the kind of people who should be in Brooklyn Metropolitan Detention Center (MDC).
January 6th mostly peaceful protestors and people like Richard who mean well don’t need rehabilitation. Jordan Peterson in Canada doesn’t need re-education. What good does it do for Clare Bronfman and Ghislaine Maxwell to sit in prison while the masterminds behind those two networks are free to do as they please?
Why would Richard Griffiths, Sara Bronfman and Basit Igtet have connections to “intelligence” AND promote NXIVM?
Those in “intelligence” who lead the entire world astray with groups like NXIVM are those most in need of separation from society. Those who manipulate people and nations need to learn how wrong that is
CEOs of World Economic Forum multinational corporations need to learn how diverse and sovereign nations can and should live on this planet. WEF “stakeholders” must learn that a tyranny of criminally insane globalist overlords is a bad thing.
Klaus Schwab tells us the “Fourth Industrial Revolution” will come “like a tsunami”. We can insult each other here or write a few open letters to a few unelected bureaucrats to ask them what they intend to impose on us next. Asking “What’s next?” is a good question even ignorant children would ask.
I read this several times and still have no idea wtf you are talking about man. Also, please stop lumping yourself in with Ice-nine, he doesn’t like it.
Bangkok-
Your “side” is no different than AOC and the Bernie Boys. You dumb fucks are too stupid to realize it….
“Even the FEW idiots with guns were not SERIOUSLY trying to ‘overthrow’ the government, LOL, since a few itty-bitty guns ain’t enough to take over the US government or prevent a new president from being certified.”
– Yes, they were seriously trying to do so precisely because they are idiots and thought they could actually do so.
I find the timing of your comment to be serendipitous because four more of them were convicted today for seditious conspiracy, which specifically means they were trying to overthrow the govnerment, LOL. The good news is that we won’t be hearing from any of them again for 20 years or so. I hope they spend plenty of time at MDC awaiting sentencing, sounds pleasant.
*This reply is responding to Niceguy’s comments to Richard down below (on the January 6th topic).
Niceguy, Richard is correct and you are wrong.
You and Ice-Nine are acting like ignorant children.
To suggest that the majority of those UNARMED January 6th protesters honestly believed that they were there to “storm the capitol building” and “physically challenge” the DC police (along with the US national guard) in an effort to “overthrow our government” is a testament to how stupid the left-wing media is. lol.
Even if those rioters delayed the election certification by a few hours or even a few days, that’s not a SERIOUS attempt to “overthrow the government” or elections. lol.
It’s just a bunch of idiots making their voices heard.
Most of them were there to vent their anger and had no clue what was gonna go down later —- since it was a disorganized group of idiots.
They didn’t even do 1% of the damage that Antifa rioters do.
Most of them were likely just walking around inside the building, casually, else the damage would have been MUCH worse.
Even the FEW idiots with guns were not SERIOUSLY trying to ‘overthrow’ the government, LOL, since a few itty-bitty guns ain’t enough to take over the US government or prevent a new president from being certified.
Heck, even a few M1 tanks couldn’t come close to doing that, LOL.
It’s amazing that a person with your intelligence has allowed himself to believe in the same fairy tales that idiotic liberals (like Ice-Nine and Erasend) believe in.
It’s so funny how polarizing this topic is.
Normal adults have reduced their thought patterns to something equivalent to a child’s thought patterns.
Use your COMMON SENSE people.
Have a good day. 🙂
46% of British Prisoners Have The Key To Their Own Cell. Incredible isn’t it?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DpbCbLVKvXw
It is!
Richard
Please write a follow-up article making concrete, practical suggestions and steps for improving the criminal justice / prison system. How would restructure the role of prosecutors, trial judges, prison officials and workers, the bail system, attorneys, prison conditions, work and educational opportunities and the funds needed to bring about changes?
These issues deserve heavy treatment, probably a series of articles.
I’ve already begun talking about the Bail Reform Act of 1984.
So I will probably tackle the bail/pretrial detention issue first. But that one is a relatively simple fix: Amend the statute to include the 30-day rule that was in the DC Bail Law the Federal Bail Statute was modeled after.
Right now there is a Bail Reform Bill that was proposed by New York Rep. Jerrold Nadler, but that Bill is basically dead in committee. But if you read the text of that bill, it really doesn’t help the core problem: Prosecutorial overreach at bail hearings. Prosecutors can overreach because they don’t have to show their cards. They just have to tell the Judge what they think they have.
As it stands now, the process would be comedic if the results weren’t so devastating. Prosecutors basically channel Kim Wayans as Benita Butrell, and give the Judge a “rundown” of all the “dirty laundry” on the defendant. Of course, the Federal Prosecutor does not have to produce any specific evidence to support their claims at the initial appearance.
We have a unique window for criminal justice reform on this issue. The progressive left is often excellent on social justice reform. This is a no-brainer because the effect of the amendments will be to benefit the poorest pretrial defendants the most, particularly black and brown men. AOC and “the Squad” could have a field day here because this simple measure injects untold fairness into the pretrial detention process.
The libertarian right is often excellent on protecting individual liberties from Government intrusion. J6 turbocharges their focus on this issue to avoid another “DC Gulag.” Marjorie Taylor Green, Paul Gosar, Matt Gaetz, and the Freedom Caucus could claim victory because “J6 Gulag” will never happen again. And the Government will have to actually produce actual evidence about all the Defendants they are holding, including the J6 Defendants, so many will get out.
This amendment could get done if the Swamp Creatures don’t get in the way. The biggest impediments are the Prison-Industrial Complex and the Law Enforcement Unions. Both need bodies to “feed the beast” and come up with hackneyed objections to common sense proposals that may potentially reduce the number of bodies they can cull. Look for RINOs and “Biden” Democrats bought and sold by the special interests to be against this.
Richard,
I am relatively ignorant of many of these issues however, a common complaint in NYC among police and concerned people living in their communities is that people get released from jail too easily. A person commits a crime and they’re back out on the street immediately. What’s worse is they know this will be the outcome and they go back out continue committing crimes. Bail Reform is great in theory but could be terrible when you’re a scared urbanite worried about leaving your apartment or you’re frustrated policeman who no longer sees a reason to arrest people because he knows the outcome will be instant freedom. I’ve been the scared urbanite and I now live in Naples, FL in the most secure, gated community.
Anyway, I’m interested in understanding more so what would do to help people that are still stuck in bad urban environments and police who have lost motivation to police?
I’m in Southwest Florida now too. It’s great down here.
The Feds are a little different than the states. There’s the old saying, “Don’t make a Federal Case out of this.” And to some extent, that’s true. The Feds are supposed to be for big-time crimes and big-time criminals who have already done one or two prison stints.
There has been a marked change in the DOJ since Ed Meese in about 1984 (the same time as the Bail Reform Act). The Feds have not been targeting crime. They have been targeting people and populations. The Federal Prosecutor still wants to see justice done, but more than ever before, they also want to see themself on HBO. They want to “get” targets so that they can advance their careers.
There is another aspect. Harvard University professor Harvey Silverglate estimates that daily life in the United States is so over-criminalized, the average American professional commits about three felonies a day. So the Feds can take anyone down if they want to. It’s akin to the old KGB saying: “You show us the man, and we’ll find you the crime.” And when this powerful system is weaponized for political purposes against persons and populations, the entire Federal Criminal Justice System loses legitimacy.
Regarding your concern, about the “revolving door” bail laws we see in NYC, Chicago, SF, LA, and other places, this doesn’t happen in the Feds. If you have a prior in the Feds, you’re probably not getting out. None of these people with 14 arrests before they see the inside of a courtroom on their first offense are present in the Feds.
In fact, the Feds are many ways the opposite of New York City and other progressive places. It’s almost impossible to get out if the Government wants you in. You have to show that you are not dangerous (and “dangerousness” is a Rorschach Test) or a flight risk (do you have $1,000 in the bank, and have you ever been on a plane?). Once you meet the legal requirements, you also have to make bail, which is usually in the millions.
Neither the New York nor the Fed System gets it right on bail. My suggestion on the Bail Reform Act in the Feds is to at least try to make a brutal system a bit fairer.
Kill them all! #ANARCHY
I second that.
From American Gulag: “Over 700 people have been arrested in connection with the events of Jan. 6, 2021. This website provides current information about each one, including relevant news articles, an arrest map, and list of those currently incarcerated. We also provide ways for you to contact those in prison, and to help cover their legal and living expenses. If you would like to provide corrections, updates, or requests, please please contact us ….
“… According to CNN, the bloated Omnibus budget Biden signed last month from a billionaire donor’s vacation villa in St. Croix includes:
– $2.6 billion for US Attorneys, including funding efforts “to further support prosecutions related to the January 6 attack on the Capitol and domestic terrorism cases”
– $11.3 billion to the FBI, including for efforts to investigate “extremist violence and domestic terrorism”
– $39 billion budget for the Justice Department (an increase of $2.6 billion from last year)
And to prepare for the deluge of new cases coming down the pike, Biden is putting more liberal justice warriors on the bench than any president since JFK—completely remaking the lower courts. (As usual, using weirdly racist and sexist benchmarks.)
76% of his appointments have been district court judges, those who preside over Jan 6 cases.
And even worse, these are lifetime appointments.
Watch out America, because all of these new cases and new justice warrior judges will almost certainly mean new levels of chaos.
Gardner wrote an open letter exclusively to The Gateway Pundit to express his hopelessness about the situation before he got the news of his grandmother’s passing earlier this week. Little did he know his premonition, that he would never see them again, would come true …
Dear friends and fellow Americans,
My name is Mitchell “Todd” Gardner. I am a 35-year-old patriot from Brandon Florida. I love God, family, and country. I went to DC to watch president Trump speak. I have never been to a rally or any other political event. I just wanted to be a part of the camaraderie of fellow Americans. It was never my intent to be part of or cause harm to anyone.
Like I said before, I love my country and only want what is best for our nation as a whole. I even voted for Obama, twice. I felt he had the better plan at the time. This time, I thought Trump had a better plan. I wanted to watch him turn over the country to the next commander. Things got crazy so fast. I would describe it as stepping outside myself. This is not who I am as a man, father, or son. It breaks my heart that I am away from those I love. I know this sounds like a kid, but I just want to go home.
Now, I am sitting in a jail that I wouldn’t wish on anyone. As a J6 defendant, I am treated poorly, harassed and physically abused. We get fed terrible food in portions smaller than elementary school. I have to constantly ask for money from my mom to get food from the commissary. I have been denied my medications and toilet paper. I have also been denied basic human necessities like water and kept from communicating with my attorney.
My attorney took advantage of the J6 situation. I paid him my life savings and he did very little for me and the other J6 defendants. In some ways made it worse. He overbooked his schedule. I was supposed to (d0) 100 days in jail before sentencing in November. I have been here since the beginning of July and won’t be sentenced until February. He has other more important cases so I now having to pay another lawyer for the sentencing phase. This all-cost money that I nor my family can afford. They are doing their best, but the cost of jail is so expensive. My mom just doesn’t have it…
… Even through all of this, I have not lost faith that God will provide and look over me. God has shown me that I am I am still a good man. I am still a good father. I am still a good son. My family will support and love me. I love my country and want what is best for all of us. I pray nightly that my kids will get through this stronger. I ask God to make sure they are safe and provided for. I am grateful for the love so many strangers have shown me and my family. Please pray for all of us.
In God’s name,
Mitchell “Todd” Gardner
Prisoner #52419-509
DC …”
You sound like a good guy with good intentions however everyone who participated in J6 and broke the law needs to accountable for their actions. No one forced you to enter the capital, create havoc, threaten lawmakers and seek to overthrow the results of an election. That is treasonous behavior. You need to be accountable for all of that, even if you just followed what others were doing. As soon as you fully accept what you did was wrong and illegal, vow to never do it again, your life will change.
The problem is proving criminal intent with the J6 defendants. Most of them didn’t think or know they were doing anything wrong.
J6 Defendant Joshua Black was recently acquitted on charges of felony obstruction of an official proceeding.
U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson ruled Black had a “unique stew in his mind,” making it difficult to determine whether he knew he was breaking the law.
“I had accomplished my goal. I pled the blood of Jesus on the Senate floor. You know, I praised the name of Jesus on the Senate floor,” Black said in a video, according to an FBI affidavit. “That was my goal. I think that was God’s goal.”
It’s hard to convict that.
Richard, your statement is incomplete and misleading (unsurprisingly).
As of Jan 05, there have been 978 people charged with something related to Jan 06. 474 have entered guilty pleas. 46 people have been convicted at trial by jury or bench ruling. Only one person that went to trial has been acquitted of all charges, and that was a misdemeanor. And Joshua Black, the person you referenced, was acquitted of the one charge you referenced but found guilty of a different felony.
So no, it does not appear that it is difficult for the DOJ to get a conviction. The DOJ vs MAGA go-to-trial scoreboard currently reads 46-1, which is a Kentucky woodshed ass kicking, unless you consider a 97.87% conviction rate to be ‘difficult’.
Your assertion that “Most of them didn’t think or know they were doing anything wrong.” is ridiculous. Black was ruled to not know what he was doing because he’s a bat shit crazy religious whacko. So for “Most” to “not know” would mean almost 500 were bat shit crazy religious whackos too, which is clearly not the case since more than half already have been found or plead guilty. I will however agree with you if you said that all of them are total fucking morons.
https://www.insider.com/all-the-us-capitol-pro-trump-riot-arrests-charges-names-2021-1
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/national/capitol-riots/by-the-numbers-the-capitol-riot-two-years-later-january-6th-donald-trump-stop-the-steal/65-810c71fe-5144-4277-a591-4898d6f2a948
More than 950 people have been charged with federal crimes relating to the riot, with some facing accusations of seditious conspiracy – a rare but serious offence.
Of those defendants, 192 have been sentenced to time behind bars, and 484 have pleaded guilty to various crimes.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/1/6/january-6-capitol-riot-charges-convictions-trials-two-years-on
The Government has picked up the low-hanging fruit – people who wanted to plead and the cases with the best chance of conviction. Now the Government has to deal with the “less than perfect” cases, many of which they have a chance of losing.
“The problem is proving criminal intent with the J6 defendants. Most of them didn’t think or know they were doing anything wrong.”
Come on Rich, “ignorantia juris non excusat” or “ignorance of the law” is no defense.
I agree with you. But this guy was too stupid to form a mens rea. He literally had no clue what proceedings were happening that day. I bet if you polled the MAGA. crowd that entered the Capitol that day, if given the choice, many would have agreed with you if you said that day was special because Trump was autographing copies of “The Art of the Deal” on the Senate floor.
We have a sophomore Congresswoman who doesn’t even know her Constitutional role.
How on God’s green earth can the DOJ charge these people with process crimes?
NiceGuy,
I don’t think Richard is saying those victims of entrapment were ignorant of the law. It seems he’s saying they were fooled — whether or not they knew the law.
Most Americans attending the mostly peaceful protest on January 6th carried flags, food, fur hats with horns and fun, not guns. They were there to peacefully protest the stolen presidential election, not to take control of the federal government.
Most mainstream news reports ignored the agitators there that day. Most mainstream news reporters (except for a few) still haven’t told the public about Ray Epps directing crowds there “INTO the Capitol!” and “INTO the building!”
Most mainstream news ignored the video showing a man in the Capitol building looking up toward a surveillance camera. He motions to someone controlling the doors to unlock the locked doors. The doors are unlocked remotely. The man then opens the doors from inside the building. He lets the crowd that was outside the Capitol building into the Capitol building.”
The half of America that can name at least one Kardashian can’t name those who unlocked those doors of the Capitol building on “January 6th, The Day of Insurrection!”.
The National Guard should have been here that day. The National Guard should have protected the Capitol building. Ray Epps and every professional agitator there that day should have been arrested on the spot.
Now that international mainstream news conglomerates dumbed-down half of America, what do you think will happen next, NiceGuy?
“Those victims of entrapment”?
Please explain and show me the proof.
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Uhm…..2 + 2 still isn’t 5 not the best analogy. I have hours of video footage to backup my perspectiveu. You only have, what? Until you have hard every it’s all your own opinion.
Richard-
Claiming not to know your taking part in a riot and attack on the Capitol is ridiculous.
BTW: I feel the same way about the Seattle Mayor Durkan and the “Chop” seditionists as I do about Trump and the January 6th seditionists.
Both groups disgust me. Vermin. They are all treasonous. Attack the Capitol Building or taking over a city area is by definition “sedition” and terrorism.
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You can role your eyes, but we both know if it had been
Bernie/AOC and ANTIFA attacking the Capitol you’d be on my side with me.
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No one can claim “naivety” when taking part in the storming of the Capitol. And equally the mayor of Seattle should have been removed from office. And she and the people who took over the neighborhood should have been prosecuted. Just like “Clive Bundy”.
Naivety, please rewatch the attack on the Capitol Building. It wasn’t a bunch of people singing Kumbaya!
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One last thing:
Even during the Civil War the Capitol building was not attacked.
Jim Jordan is angling to have all the videos released from that day. Then, we’ll see whether these people were closer to rabid seditionists or grandmas that wandered into the Capitol like they would a bank lobby.
BTW: the FBI has proved the rioters overall did not plan to attack
the Capitol. Only about 30 or
so delusional idiots among the rioters believed anything was going to happen.
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In other words the people fell victim to mob mentality. Still NOT an excuse.
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Last thing, I hate ANTIFA, AOC, and the scum involved in the Seattle CHOP. They should’ve all been “PROSECUTED!”
I’m registered Republican.
Thank you for this letter, Mr. Gardner. Schadenfreude. Pure Schadenfreude 😂
I noticed lots of excuses and whining. Lots of bellyaching. Nothing resembling an apology. Lots of prayers for him though, which frankly don’t seem to be doing much. I guess God has more important things to do than help “patriots” that tried to hang the Vice President and murder the Speak of the House, and then show no remorse for doing so.
So hello “Todd”, may you continue to experience all the misery the United States prison system has to offer, and then some. Sincerely – Democracy.
“schadenfreude
shäd′n-froi″də
noun
Pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others.
Malicious enjoyment derived from observing someone else’s misfortune.
delight in another person’s misfortune”
when it comes to the Jan 06 scumbags, yes I do, thanks for asking.
“scumbags”?
That’s a harsh term for such a large group of people.
Are you saying they’re ALL “scumbags” or do just a few at the Capitol on January 6th deserve such an insult?
Anon @ 12:21.
Your retort was convincing enough that I decided I should enter a revision, thanks. Not all of them are scumbags. I see now there are indeed two buckets of MAGA present that day. Scumbags, which encapsulates nearly all of them. And the small number remaining such as Mr. Black that, according to Mr. Luthmann, are the type of MAGA Republican who are literally “too stupid” to know what they were doing.
Revised:
“when it comes to the Jan 06 scumbags, yes I do. But not for those MAGA rioters that are literally too stupid to know better, I am indifferent about them. Thanks for asking.”
I hope that satisfies your inquiry.
Most people are too stupid to understand process crimes. So if you have a large number of very stupid people, the vast majority won’t know what is going on.
“The good news is that we won’t be hearing from any of them again for 20 years or so. I hope they spend plenty of time at MDC awaiting sentencing, sounds pleasant.”
— Ice-nine 🥶
Does Scott Johnson have three hands or a very long wrist with a thumb?
😂 wtf is going on there
His wife needs them those hands…
https://nypost.com/2014/09/24/three-boobed-woman-theyre-not-fake/amp/
Five of the six arrested in the RICO case of NXIVM, we’re in home confinement. They all took plea deals.
The one at MDC went to trial
Hum, it kind of blows your theory out of the water.
Isn’t it more about who has money for bail and a good legal defense team in most of these cases?
Sure some get detained out of fuckery as you call it. Some have done horrible crimes, some are considered unfit to be in public while waiting for trial some are flight risks.
What brings this on it some kind of dynamic, as we well know.
Not at all. Men are punished far harsher than women, and women are much more rarely detained pretrial. You’re comparing apples and oranges.
The fuckery is in the Federal Bail statute. The Bail Reform Act has to be amended to put a 30 day provision back into the law that the DC bail law it was modeled off of contained. The Government can tell the court why the defendant is a danger or a flight risk, but have 30 days to substantiate it with actual evidence, or else the defendant is released.
Richard. Women don’t sexually assault or rape men in the same numbers that we are attacked.
98% of murderers are men.
Men are the problem. They are the violent ones, the abusive ones. There’s no surprise they are over represented in the penal system
You raise.an excellent point. The statute says “dangerousness.” What does that term mean?
I would argue (and Federal Prosecutos have argued) that Clare Bronfman is of greater “dangerousness” than 100 street rapists.
Clare Bronfman has virtually unlimited resources. The street rapist does not.
Clare Bronfman has used those resources to harass, coerce, and maybe kill her enemies. The street rapist has not.
I wouldn’t be worried about Clare Bronfman sexually assaulting me, but I would be very worried that she was dangerous, especially if I were her enemy.
If they want to torture, just make the prisoners watch the Mack Raniere interview. They will confess to anything to get out of hearing Raniere’s gobbledygook. Allison is as STUPID as Clare. Two extremely LOW IQ individuals. .
The latest DOJ scandal.
The Biden White House and the DOJ secretly agreed to hide Joe Biden’s sale of clasified documents to Communist China.
If this is not treason by the DOJ and Biden, then what is treason?
Maybe Joe Biden should be housed in the Brooklyn MDC to elicit truthful answers from the Chinese Spy living in the White House.
Report: White House, DOJ Agreed to Hide Classified Document Scandal
The White House and Justice Department (DOJ) reportedly agreed to hide President Joe Biden’s classified document scandal from the American people until it leaked to the press, despite their repeated claims of transparency.
Report: White House, DOJ Agreed to Hide Classified Document Scandal
The White House and Justice Department (DOJ) reportedly agreed to hide President Joe Biden’s classified document scandal from the American people until it leaked to the press, despite their repeated claims of transparency.
Not only did the White House and DOJ try to obscure the scandal from public view, but they also refused to divulge that the second trove of classified documents were already unearthed at Biden’s home in Wilmington when CBS News first contacted the White House about the initial leak of classified documents apparently illegally stored at the Biden Penn Center, according to the Washington Post: “Early on, Biden’s attorneys and Justice Department investigators both thought they had a shared understanding about keeping the matter quiet,” the Post admitted, noting the Biden administration’s attempt to conceal revelations of the second trove of stashed documents.
“CBS News was the first news organization to learn of the matter, contacting the White House on Jan. 6 to ask about the Penn Biden Center documents,” the report continued. “White House officials confirmed the scoop, but since the investigation was ongoing, they decided not to offer any additional details — including the critical information that a second batch of documents had been discovered at Biden’s home.”
That the Biden administration tried to conceal the scandal contradicts their claims of transparency.
Since the Justice Department appointed a special prosecutor, the White House has provided little transparency. “I’m just going to continue to be prudent here. I’m going to let this ongoing review that is happening — this legal process that is happening — let that process continue under the special counsel. We’re not — I’m not — going to comment from here,” Jean-Pierre said Tuesday.
“Look, guys, you guys can ask me this 100 times, 200 times, if you wish. I’m going to keep saying the same thing,” she added. “I hear your question. It’s been asked. It’s been answered. It’s been noted.”
Critics have questioned why Biden’s personal attorneys were initially searching for Biden’s illegally stashed documents. The White House has failed to provide the initial reason or cause for the search.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/01/19/report-white-house-doj-agreed-hide-classified-document-scandal/
This is an excellent article, Richard.
Keep going.
Never stop.
Alanzo
Thank you for your feedback.
250,000 of Al Gore’s “climate refugees” crossed the American southern border in December.
As long as we stay focused on symptoms instead of causes, jails everywhere in America and Europe will overflow with more and more and more plea deals … until permanent lock downs solve the problems caused by those shifting the focus to symptoms such as plea deals.
Those who almost control the entire world right now want us to focus on the minutiae, not the bigger picture of their attempt at global domination — and anyone thinking no one would want to dominate the world should study history.
Notice how Western Europe, America and Australia all suddenly look the same: mass migration, increase in crime, tanked local and national economies and purposeful division is exactly the kind of engineered chaos bureaucrats and CEOs of international corporations need to justify their “new world order”. The infrastructure is actually already in place for small groups of unelected officials and CEOs of multinational corporations to control all people in all nations with a one world government.
This is not to dismiss hardships in prisons and injustice in our justice system. This is to simply note that “Black Mirror” episodes probably offer some idea of what very big corporations might do if given the chance to fully control this very small planet. Crazy, for sure, because the crazy people at the top pulling too many strings cause of most symptoms we see — such as billionaire-funded cults and “torture plans meant to prompt plea deals”.
What you went through is horrible, Richard. Everything most of us have been through at this point is horrible because of a few simple problems with a few simple answers we can act upon if and when we focus as much attention as possible on the causes to find quick and lasting solutions to all these problems.
Our American justice system In general actually seems to be on the right track in many ways. Jeffery Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, one of two Bronfmans, Keith Raniere and Peter Nygard all faced justice In the past few years. Those above them who coordinated and funded their crimes have not. The lower hanging fruit was at least a start and maybe this year, conditions for justice and for inmates everywhere — including Brooklyn’s Metropolitan Detention Center will improve.
Coincidentally, this is from a recent CBC & Radio-Canada report:
“ … Nygard’s legal team asked Lametti to get the U.S. to agree that their client would not be locked up at Brooklyn’s Metropolitan Detention Center.
They say it is “likely that Mr. Nygard will be held in solitary confinement” or other isolation if he’s sent there.
That raises concerns, Nygard’s lawyers say, given similarities between his proceedings and those of Jeffrey Epstein — the financier and registered sex offender who died in 2019 at the Metropolitan Correctional Centre, a separate New York facility that has since been shut down.
“Incarceration of any inmate … [in the Metropolitan Detention Center,] much less an 80-year-old accused with multiple serious health concerns, creates an unacceptable risk to the safety and security of a Canadian surrendered to a treaty partner,” Nygard’s lawyers wrote to the justice minister.
“As such, detention would deprive him with his right to liberty and security of the person in accordance with fundamental principles of justice,” wrote Greenspan and Seth P. Weinstein, another lawyer at his firm, in their Nov. 22, 2021, submissions to Lametti, which were included in last April’s appeal court filing … British Columbia extradition lawyer Gary Botting — who isn’t involved in the Nygard case — says it’s not uncommon for people facing extradition to make requests for assurances, especially when it comes to where the accused person will be housed … Nygard’s legal team wanted Lametti to get assurances from U.S. authorities that Nygard’s surrender would be limited to the one charge of trafficking in persons …The original authority to proceed — the Justice Department order which authorizes an extradition hearing — was issued on March 4, 2021, based on that single charge of trafficking in persons, which is a criminal offence in both Canada and the U.S. It did not include the eight other charges Nygard is facing in the Southern District of New York. Once the justice minister consented to the extradition, he agreed that Nygard would face all nine charges in New York …”