A commenter wrote to me about my criticism of Laura Hoeppner, who wants to do a documentary about Chet.
The commenter wrote:
I have questions for Frank.
Did he really lie to the producers about victims?
Did he really tell them that certain victims wouldn’t speak to them unless he was involved?
I don’t believe for one minute Frank is in this game to only help people. That’s a great cover, but we all know that ultimately Frank is after a juicy story that can bring him more attention.
He wants to present the story as contrived and convoluted as he can to get more followers and to game notoriety and fame.
I don’t know how anyone can read these reports and not see that.
And I regretfully can’t seem to look away.
So Frank, what’s the truth? Are you an advocate for the victims or an adversary? What is your end game here?
I replied:
I am not advocating for anyone. This story does not need contrivances or convolutions. This twisted story nobody could make up.
I will not judge who is victim, part victim, predator, part victim- part predator, and who is a consenting adult.
Too much crying ‘I am a victim,” makes a person weak. The world only sympathizes with strength and courage.
I am not law enforcement. I am not a victim advocate.
I present facts as I see them, the way I want to write them, and new facts may change my opinion tomorrow.
If my stories help someone get out, leave a bad place, stop some asshole from being an asshole. Or prevent someone from following that asshole or another asshole, I will be glad, but that is not why I do this.
I like to write and solve investigations. That is my reward.
As for Laura Hoeppner, she was dishonest. But so what? I run into dishonesty all the time.
I do not dislike Laura. I wish her well.
She came to me in October about doing a documentary on Ramtha. I told her I had a better idea.
She had never heard of Shoemaker. I pointed to my stories and explained how to make the documentary.
Laura was interested.
A few days later, she presented Myles Reis, a man she said won an Emmy for producing the second season of Leah Remini and Scientology.
Myles Reiff
I understood it was the first season that won the Emmy, and the second season bombed with Myles as producer.
The scandals were unfortunate—the suppressed episode about Danny Masterson. An attorney named Martin Singer allegedly intimidated the producers.
As long as I was a producer, no attorney would intimate me.
So I was willing to work with them.
They set up a Zoom call. It went well. They sent an agreement. I sent them a counteroffer. I wanted to have equal creative control.
They told me they would send the contract to their attorney and return with a counter to my counteroffer.
I was good with that.
They wanted to do a sizzle reel. I told them exactly how to do it to capture the story in six minutes.
It was November.
I got texts from Laura.
Nov 10
Laura Hoeppner
Laura: Update: we shared the contract with our lawyer and agents but we’d like to chat with you for more understanding before we offer our counters.
Nov 14
Laura: Hey Frank, we had our meeting with our lawyer today. We will have revisions by Thursday, fingers crossed! They’re a bit busy over there!
Frank: Sounds great Laura
Nov 18
Laura: Hi Frank, we are getting the revised contract tonight
Frank: Ok great. Look forward to hearing from you
Nov 19
Laura: Hey Frank. We still didn’t receive the revised contract [from their lawyers]. We just checked in. Hoping to have it soon and get going on everything together soon
Frank: Sounds good. I understand that things take time.
Nov 21
Laura: Hey Frank, they are still finishing up. Hopeful for tomorrow!
Frank: Sounds good.
December came. I heard nothing from Laura and Myles. But I heard from some of my sources whom I identified to Laura and Myles. Laura was contacting them to film.
While Laura asked me to wait as they “finished up” the contract, they were stalling me. They wanted to make the documentary without me.
I texted Laura and asked why she told me to wait, then went behind my back?
Laura: We sought counsel on how to make a show under parameters you were asking for and found it was not possible. Myles and I have been doing this a long time and we felt it wasn’t possible to meet the demands.
Frank: Why didn’t you let me know out of courtesy?
It seemed obvious they could not let me know. They were worried I might make the documentary without them.
They needed to get the jump. That’s business in their world.
They say a journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step. And if the first step is dishonest, where will the journey end?
Laura and Myles got into this because of me and chose deception to advance without me .
That is their decision.
The man they wish to make the documentary about made the same choice about honesty 50 years ago.
I want to advise readers on how to sign a good release and make an informed decision.
I do not care if people decide to sign a release with them and get burned, as long as they are informed.
I do not care if Hoeppner and Reis do the documentary.
By the time this documentary airs, if it ever does, it will be a year and a half or two years from now.
By that time, I will have done my work. The authorities will arrest Shoemaker. Or he will flee the country, or it may turn out there was abuse but no provable crimes.
Long before there is a documentary, I will finish my work.
And no one can take from me that I was the one who brought this story out, pulled it out of 20 years of dust and hiding. And put the heat on it and got the job done. And did it without fear of Chet or his minions. And others made documentaries and came out of hiding when it was safe to do so after I cut the path.
Laura, laura, laura… what a shitty dishonest way of doing business. Gotta love how she doesn’t even have the balls to call and be direct. So full of shit. Not the kind of person you want handling victims of abuse and trauma.
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you’re far too patient, frank.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, things are still moving right along. We are stealth.
we dont need no stinking sizzle.
It sucks that all this bullshit has surfaced. I’m going back to bed.,
Damn! That is shady AF. Not even a counter to your counter? Just waste your time and run off with the sources you connected them with? Crappy with a capital C.
Dan provided drugs to the ashram. Then was cutout as the middleman- discarded as Chet does with many people.
And now Dan discards those who helped him and Laura does the same. No ethics just like Chet. Head to Gold Beach and stay there.
“And others made documentaries and came out of hiding when it was safe to do so after I cut the path”
This is how it’s always been – how many people have claimed they “broke” the nxivm story? How many self-promoting heroes are there?
Yet the evidence is clear- without Franks stories, nxivm would still be recruiting and branding women full force.
The truth will ultimately come ti light.
See, she’s the type that should get drugged and butt fucked by swami chockeananda. What an asshole
Wow, this is an extremely disturbing comment
What’s most disturbing is Frank chose to publish it which makes me wonder if he wrote it.
And you wonder why rape victims might be more comfortable with a woman or really anyone capable of the smallest measure of sensitivity.
Of course he wrote this. He should publish the screen shots. He is a liar.
You are obviously new here and imagine your attempts to grift Frank with your sub-par imaginative slurs, will work?
Truth hurts? – take a ticket and go to the end of the butt-hurt queue.
Couldn’t be more wrong. He’d be sued by Laura Hoeppner if he was quoting her and she didn’t do or say any of it.
He’s telling the truth. Do you have some connection with Laura that makes you doubt Frank’s word? You’ll see. You’re entirely wrong.
I for one am grateful for your dedication and hard work and agree with you Frank!
i second that, Frank. Anonymously, of course.
What about The Vow producers?
The Vow producer hit on the female victims. Disgusting.
Ask why Kristin Keeffe didn’t participate in The Vow. How could they fail to secure one of the key people within NXIVM?
Laura is as deep as a Dixie cup. She calls because she’s invested in exposing the Ramtha cult, but when a story of months of hard work is presented to her by Frank— as something to pursue together- to join talents and give victims the best possible outcome, Laura was giddy and calling constantly. But once she has what she needs, the mutual respect is out the window.
Laura lies, evades and goes behind Franks back to cut him out of the process.
She needed Frank- took countless hours – free of charge – as Frank provided her with essential information, and then stole it all and went on her way.
No thanks. No appreciation. No ethical standards. No direct communication but instead, a sneaky, underhanded move to exploit people for her sizzle reel.
She’s a user. Total user with zero sensitivity chip.
And what about Ramtha? That’s how committed Laura is to a story. Take what she needs with the least amount of effort or diligence as possible.
Notice, she’s not in demand and she’s a one- seasoner. Once they see how she operates, she’s not asked back.
It’s amazing how idiots that Frank helped are so short sighted in their quest to expose shoemaker that they would be okay with cutting out the one person who took the time- devoted countless hours to hear their experiences, perceptions and trauma__ when they had no one.
His stories led to public exposure and he was the one that promoted their story when Laura was calling about another cult altogether.
And now there is no loyalty or concern at all for the investigator that asked for nothing to see Justice served and victims protected.
I know the true victims will wait for Parlato. The lack of respect and loyalty is troubling. But maybe that’s why you fell prey to shoemaker to begin with.
Weak, disloyal, clueless people who will be led astray by unscrupulous people— with empty promises — people who have and will exploit.
So stupid- do you not see the parallel?
Maybe Chet bought them
There you go victim blaming and shaming again. “Idiots” Frank has helped? You mean the victims?
Fuck off
I think he means these film makers
I meant the filmmakers and the self-claim victims. And yes, they need to be held accountable for their own conduct. If they were victims of Swami, why would they then be disloyal to the one person who has devoted countless hours to listening, investigating and writing stories to bring this to the media’s attention? Why would they agree to cut out the person whom they trusted and who PROMOTED their story to help take down Swami Chet?
Laura was asking for Frank’s help on an entirely different cult and Frank handed her everything. They were going to work as a team as both have different strengths. But Laura went around that in the most underhanded way.
So yes, I hold the “victims” accountable, and wonder why they are okay with Laura’s conduct when clearly it was Frank who pulled everything together. No victim shaming. Are they never accountable for their decisions and choices?
It seems like a dirty game with a lot of backstabbers. I don’t know what professional ethics there are in Hollywood surrounding this kind of thing and stealing other people’s stories. Seems shady to me. It’s a pity something couldn’t be worked out since Frank is the only one who gave a damn about what happened to all of us and gave us a platform and a voice. What I can tell you, for sure, is this. Few victims (and I mean the ones in this story that everyone wants to know about, his “girls”) who still are or were debilitatingly traumatized by that man–and who know all his dirty secrets–will exposè themselves all over again to some shady documentary filmmakers so the public can all have a good old laugh at our expense and tell us that we all deserved it for being so stupid. And, yes, I use the word victim. Not because we are weak, because I assure you, what we’ve been through is nothing short of absolute hell. We are his victims because he victimized us, because of *his* actions that exploited and tortured us. And we are also strong and courageous for living it, and surviving it. But my point is, we won’t be laying ourselves bare for the sake of some titillating exposé and most certainly if we don’t feel safe and there aren’t protections in place for all of us. I speak for myself, but I know it is true of others, we’ve all had enough of being manipulated, lied to, and our good intentions used against us. It’s not fucking happening again.
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