Ed. Note: Those who know but do not bear witness must hear their names spoken. For the race is run by one and one and never by two and two.
By Diana Silva
I read your article where people wondered about Karen Krieger, Gretchen’s sister. I knew them.
Kristen, Gretchen, and Karen were all with Swami Chetanananda. It’s unclear who he slept with first. Karen or her mother, Kristin. But Karen is gone. Left a long time ago. There is no contact between the sisters Karen and Gretchen. I never put it together until I read your story.
Swami Chetanananda slept with both sisters and their mother. First there was Karen, Then she left. No one knew why. Then he started with Gretchen. She lived with him in Portland when I was there. She still lives with the Swami at Gold Beach.
Kristin, the mother, runs the meditation group in Santa Monica from her house. It is a small group, about 15 at most. I went there once with the smaller group to medidate. They seemed like professionals, intelligent people. Not a bunch of hippie-dippie, woo-woo people, but educated, good jobs, intelligent, funny, articulate. Swami Chetanananda is their guru.
They plan every few months for Swami to come for group meditations. A large group comes then to Santa Monica. I came to a few of those. There would be an open invitation to an open-eye meditation and a meal afterward. A lot of people would come, lots of faces, as well as the regulars.
It was celebratory. It was very deferential. Lots of flowers. Bowing, deferring to him. Flowers, altars. It’s beautiful, it’s attractive. People would sit with him in the open eyes meditation.
There’s a sense of anticipation, of “Oh, I hope he looks at me.” Because, you know, you sit there for an hour, gazing at him.
And he’s looking around the room, looking at different people. When he turns to you, you’re like, “Oh, he notices me.”
When he’s done, he just gets up. Then, he goes upstairs to Kristin and Buzz – her husband’s bedroom – to rest for a while.
There was recorded Buddhist chanting. Everybody talked. They had food.
And Swami came back down, sat down. Afterward, he’d walk around, and everybody would want to talk to him. Many outsiders would come.
We had open eyes meditation at Portland. On Saturday night, when he looked at me, I would focus on staying focused. Holding the gaze and having an open mind. And in my mind was love. Not just love for him, but love in the room. And opening my heart.
The Swami doesn’t change his expression. There’s no smiling, no blinking, no movement of the eye. He breathes in a heavy way.
At the Movement Center in Portland, the people were nice. Teresa was my favorite. She was his personal secretary. Sharon is formidable. Super smart. But easy enough to talk to. She’s the woman you’d expect to take a bunch of dogs out and save somebody’s life. She could get out there and get that done. A no-bullshit kind of lady. Fiercely intelligent.
Howard is lovely and approachable. Howard seemed like my idea of a Swami. You could approach Howard to ask him questions about the practice. He was always willing to explain. Swami Chetanananda was more off-limits as a teacher.
At Portland they had a fantastic yoga class. And they had a printing press where they made all their books. They had many employees.
The doors were locked. There’s no one around to answer the door at all times. The place isn’t a hotel, where someone is there to welcome you. People are in their apartments. It’s quiet. It was beautiful. But quiet. People are in their apartments. It’s soundproof.
The outside, the rest of the property was gated off.
So that was my experience. I knew the Swami was polyamorous. People knew. But I thought it was all consensual. With adult intelligent women whom he had close relationships with. I didn’t pry. I was there for the experience. To learn and grow.
I had no idea about the hard core sado-masochism, the drugs, the strangling until I read your stories.
When I first read them, I said, “No fucking way.” Like no way. No way are the people I met at the ashram, these sweet, intelligent, gentlewomen, and Michael is – like, no way, no way.
Then I started reading more, and I read the letters from people who left the group, and how we had discounted those things because of what Michael said. I still had my doubts about the authenticity of those letters. But I read more of your articles. And I was still like, “No, this can’t, no.”
Then I reached out to a friend. She saw her name in your articles. She was the one who sent me your story without comment. She had left the group. I knew her. She’s intelligent. She’s the real deal. She never said anything bad about the place. So I asked her. Is this true?
And she’s just said, “Yes, it’s all true.”
I wanted confirmation. In my heart, I was sick, I wanted to reject it. But I felt a need to find out.
I knew of another friend. I hadn’t spoken to her in a long time, who also had left the group. I reached out to her, and she wrote right back.
She said, “Yes, sadly, it’s true.” She’d also seen your reports.
I realize Swami Chetanananda abused both of them. His BDSM is more than harmless kink.
My second friend – the one I had not spoken to in years – she told me about it. I cannot share all this, for it is confidential. Maybe she’ll agree to tell you. She told me that what she shared was the most she’d ever talked about it. She hasn’t shared what he did with hardly anybody in her life.
By the way, it is not Natasha. I do not know Natasha. But I’m dying to know about her. I haven’t asked my two friends who left the group.
But one of my friends said, “Be careful. The Swami is retaliatory. So, you know, if you stand up to him, it’s gonna be brutal.”
I also recall something. It was long ago. But there was talk. This goes back before I was there. But I heard talk. One of the buildings burned when the Swami was, I think, in Indiana. Maybe Boston. I can’t recall. One of the first ashrams, it burnt, and they collected insurance money. The cause of the fire was unknown. That was the first significant influx of cash. That’s where the first big bump came to buy, the next, the next big property.
In Portland, I remember he never ate with us. He always ate in his apartment. Not with the rest of us who lived there. Typically, there are a handful of people, not even a handful, maybe four, who join him for dinner. We had simple meals. Simple, good, vegetarian food. Good but simple food.
I had left – on good terms. And I remember I came back to visit him, after a lapse of a few years. The last time I saw him, I thought, “Oh, shit, he looks rough.” He looked much different. He looked like a bad alcoholic.
I looked at his face. That doesn’t look like a man who does yoga and eats vegan all the time. Lots of 70-year-old guys with a clean lifestyle don’t look like that. His face looks rough.
Back then, the women used to tell me he had some health issues that kept him inside his apartment and away from everyone for a few days at a time.
Those health issues may not have been health issues. I now learned that when Swami’s missing, it’s because he is on a bender.
I am sorry I can’t tell you too much. He never abused me. I wanted to let you know about Karen.
I have been thinking about Karen a lot since I read your stories. She was so young. Looking back, I guess he preyed on all of the family.
Someone asked in your story if she was alive or dead. She’s not dead. Last I heard she is in Carmel. At one time, I heard she was in New York. I don’t know how old Karen was at the time. I can’t say whether Karen was underage. But then I remember Laiko. Poor Laiko. She got out.
Now I realize you were referring to her in your story.
Thanks to your stories, my friend told me what happened to her. Poor dear child, and he was with her married mother. Thank God she got out.
For the sin that ye do by two and two ye must pay for one by one!
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Trigger warning warning: Trigger warning ahead.
Trigger warning:
Are you in a truly evil cult?
Then be afraid — very afraid.
You are on Frank Report, where evil cults die a slow and torturous death.
Let’s not be Frank, shall we. Let’s be franker than Frank.
First, a message to anyone who has found themselves, through the very best of intentions, in the clutches of a truly evil cult. There is one absolute consolation. You are a psychological war victim as a direct result of your genuine wish to better yourself. This wish will be more than fulfilled one fine day, in the goodness of time. Your sincerity, and the suffering you were prepared to undergo in the hope of enlightenment, will have been fully registered by the true spiritual powers, the ones that are way beyond good and evil. These beings know that “the evil” needs to be allowed to expand, to show its true face, before it can be eliminated in such a way that people see, understand and grow from the whole experience. You have helped this process.
In the mean and ugly time, what do you do? What do you do when organized sociopaths have messed with your mind, body and soul? How do you get your life back?
My core message is directed to my own side, to people in the truly good spiritual movements: DO NOT BLAB. We are now in full-on global spiritual war. There’s a name for this conflict in the Cosmic Chronicle. It’s called The War of All Against All.
The really nasty part of this war is between the people who know which side they’re on, and the people who don’t — the people who don’t even know there’s a war going on, let alone think about choosing sides. I am always thankful for intelligent enemies. The truly evil bastards do not faze me. At least they are what they are. The people I really hate are those mindless sheep who have no clue what’s going on. The ones who bleat “It’s all normal” and tell you the reason there’s been a 1700 percent increase in the last year in athletes collapsing and dying on the playing field and in the swimming pool, is because we have much better diagnosis now. It can’t be anything to do with the COVID jabs these athletes received, because the jabs are “safe and effective.”
In my book, there is no one more guilty than the innocent bystander.
This is being written during the bitter fighting for Sievierdonetsk, I’ve been watching harrowing videos. There’s a very aware daschhund I’m praying for. I’m on that dog’s side.
If you are in a truly evil cult, you need to get OUT, immediately and totally and as safely as possible. If you’re a Scientologist, you will be relentlessly pursued and harassed, so be prepared to give up your entire existence and run and hide. If you go public, they will definitely come for you. Take great care.
If you have serious information on what’s going on in your evil cult, you can leverage it to get out safely while performing a public service. You can release some of the information, making certain that the cult understands: (a) you’ve got much, much worse on them, and ensure they know exactly what at least some of it is; (b) ALL of this information will be triggered by a “dead man’s switch” if something nasty happens to you, so that every single thing you have on them will immediately be widely released, along with news of your proximate misfortune; and (c), make it very clear that if someone even breathes heavily on you or any member of your family, you will release another tranche of information to teach them a lesson and make them understand that you are serious and should be left very strictly alone. Make sure you are fully prepared to follow through on all of these promises.
Choose your information bombs carefully, calibrate them, structure them, and deploy them both tactically and strategically. Don’t be scared to make things personal; don’t be scared to name names, as long as you’re absolutely sure of your information. They rely on fear. Make them understand that you’re not afraid of them. Make THEM fear YOU. This has worked in the past and will work again, if you’re smart. Remember, bullies are always cowards.
If you’re in a safe situation, and if you’re in possession of information that can help people from being damaged by an evil cult, then it’s your absolute responsibility to bring these facts forward on an appropriate platform. You can’t do better than Frank Report, in my opinion.
True realization cannot be undone. Once you’ve seen the evil, you cannot unsee it, at least without electric shocks, drink, drugs, or worse.
Tell the truth — maybe not the whole truth, that would take too much bandwidth, but the honest truth, and nothing but the honest truth, the relevant truth. You can bring these rascals down overnight, end their bullshit. Take a tip from Frank Report: while sticking to the truth, don’t be scared to use ridicule and parody to express yourself. Be a cognitive dissident.
As it happens, this Swami Cheatananda reminds me, even by his looks, of an Australian “voice healer” called Chris James. James also does a version of Open-Eye Meditation, the kind of exercise where you have to stare right into someone’s eyes for an extended period. I had the great misfortune to spend a lot of money on a weekend workshop with him, many years ago. This is him punting himself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pywZnTok9pI
For the initial staring-into-the-eyes exercises, I found a good friend in this workshop and was very thankful to be paired with her — I often find these group efforts completely excruciating. At the last minute, a real asshole of a “drum therapy” idiot arrived, highly self-important. He also happened to know my friend, so without a thought he immediately thrust me aside and paired up with her. If you’re a “sound healer”, this is how these workshops work.
You can guess what happened next, the one thing I was trying the most to avoid. There was no other partner available. I had literally to go eye-to-eye with Chris James himself, a fellow whom I had very quickly picked out as a glib faker, someone I wouldn’t trust with a kindergarten music class.
So I looked him in the eye, and he said, wow, you’ve got a bit of a thing going there, mate. I said, yeah, I do. So we glared at each other for a few minutes before moving on to the next exercise.
I spent the rest of the workshop hiding the fact that I could sing overtones way over this guy’s head. He has a very high voice, which gives him about five overtones — I have a very low voice, which gives me about 128 overtones. Fortunately, singing very, very, very softly is a big part of our spiritual training, although I did give one other participant in that workshop a genuine shock, when she overheard me.
So I’ve gone toe-to-toe with some of these assholes, they all spin the same line, it’s always the same bullshit. If you look, it’s all always about power — all of it, every single thing they do, every move they make. And if you look closely, they all look basically the same. They’re all creeps. Jimmy Swaggart had more style.
Anyone who imposes their will on you, is more than a fraud, he/she/it/they is evil. LIVE EVIL. Every single step you make on the spiritual path has to be made completely of your own free will, or you’re on the wrong path. If your teacher doesn’t make this elementary principle clear, he/she/it/they is a fraud and a charlatan. Don’t walk: run.
Good luck all.
HERE’S THE MEAT FOR THOSE WHO ARE HUNGRY FOR HEALTH AND TRUTH but have a short attention span:
If you have serious information on what’s going on in your evil cult, you can leverage it to get out safely while performing a public service. You can release some of the information, making certain that the cult understands: (a) you’ve got much, much worse on them, and ensure they know exactly what at least some of it is; (b) ALL of this information will be triggered by a “dead man’s switch” if something nasty happens to you, so that every single thing you have on them will immediately be widely released, along with news of your proximate misfortune; and (c), make it very clear that if someone even breathes heavily on you or any member of your family, you will release another tranche of information to teach them a lesson and make them understand that you are serious and should be left very strictly alone. Make sure you are fully prepared to follow through on all of these promises.
Choose your information bombs carefully, calibrate them, structure them, and deploy them both tactically and strategically. Don’t be scared to make things personal; don’t be scared to name names, as long as you’re absolutely sure of your information. They rely on fear. Make them understand that you’re not afraid of them. Make THEM fear YOU. This has worked in the past and will work again, if you’re smart. Remember, bullies are always cowards.
human trafficking
The unlawful act of transporting or coercing people in order to benefit from their work or service, typically in the form of forced labor or sexual exploitation.
“she is a victim of human trafficking”
“Mind control is the process by which one’s freedom of choice is compromised by agents that modify or distort perception, motivation, cognition and/or behavior. It is neither magical or mystical, but a process that involves a set of basic social psychological principles. Conformity, compliance, persuasion, guilt and fear are some of these social influence ingredients. Combined with charismatic, authoritarian leaders and/or dominant ideologies that are often deceptively orchestrated, over an extended period of time, they can create a powerful crucible of extreme mental and behavioral manipulation.”
— Steven Hassan, PhD – Author Of Combating Cult Mind Control
Swamiji stop this. NOW Maharaja I beseech thee.
Guru Bhakte.. He can’t stop this. He is not a God, he is only human with very human flaws. Your delusional and sad, and I feel sorry for you that your so brainwashed. Your life is a lie.
honey! – are you trying to give him orders? girl, you would have never lasted a real minute with him. you’d be on the other side of this argument faster than you can say whippersnapper – like the beautiful human in development that you are, on your long way to eventually becoming a buddha.. in process. Not ready for these practices just yet, and that is to be respected, and protected. You have many many blessings to bring to this world just yet, it is not time for your demise.
don’t reject, integrate.
some of y’all have never offered yourself to your guru and his caning, and it shows
feel and absorb baby, feel and absorb.
this becomes virtue, alchemy and insight.
and have a little humility and compassion for those who have been harmed so that you could continue having the sweet, powerful and beautiful experiences with him that you treasure
Actually no, it doesn’t become any of that. Taking his abuse just breaks your soul, your vision, your spirit, your inner compass…damages you, and even makes you idiotically prideful – and now he can control, discredit and confuse you more easily.
I think we haven’t truly appreciated the complete insanity of this poster, @love. Ah the convoluted doublespeak. You really are something. Jen, I presume. I can feel the arrogant condescension dripping off you, can see it in your photos also… it reeks of desperation. You can have him, darlin. Your journey to hell will be revealed eventually. This is not love, this is trauma and hatred in action, hence the continual fallout and trail of roadkill.
You can get out.
https://www.igotout.org/resources
I’m really curious how many people out there experienced this. When my friend called me to tell me that he invited me to live there he had told her and everyone at lunch that I was a survivor of (SRA) “satanic ritual abuse”. I had been “passed around a lot”. That was what he “picked up”off me. Ok. I know other people that had “memories resurface” of sexual assaults primarily around their Father as a result of “what he picked up”. After that right before I moved in to TMC I had my first actual private meeting with him and he said “Your Father has been no friend to you” I said my father committed suicide when I was 12. He said “before that”. I was in very bad shape when I got there. Had literally been in fight or flight for years and obviously that would scare anyone. However, when I realized who Marc Gafni was and was horrified I started doing some research.
I have since discovered this. One of the women that was listed as his partners caught my eye and I did a little internet research. She and her hub were front and center of Castlewood. This is crazy, you can read it for yourself but the gist of it. A bunch of patients claim that they “recovered” memories of being SRA survivors. So here they are being treated for dangerous eating disorders and “remember” being used in satanic rituals that their parents, teachers, coaches etc… would participate it. Naturally they would cease communication with all their loved ones, be terrified of them. They would be turned loose after the 700k of insurance was tapped out and be even more broken then when they came in. These folks seem to exchange notes on what forms of psychological warfare best keep their “subjects” in check.
How many of you out there were told these kinds of things? I am well aware what happened to me as a child. This only for a time until I read up on all of this completely freaked me out and made me feel dependent on him for “protection”.
There is NO WAY I am the only person he pulled this with and would truly explain a lot why people are so terrified to leave him.
Sick.
https://www.castlewoodvictimsunite.org/amp/the-devillish-trio-of-eating-disorders-treatment
https://www.castlewoodvictimsunite.org/amp/2011/12/13/minnesota-woman-sues-hypnotist-for-alleged-satanic-ritual-abuse
This is so sick. I’m only putting it together as I’m reading what you’ve written, but he did a similar thing with me. I had this huge emotional release where the overwhelming feeling was that my father sexually abused me. No actual memory, just the energy of it. I couldn’t make sense of the intensity of the ‘memory’ with what I knew. When I told him, he seemed to already know. He said, “This happens a lot around me.” And of course, the only logical step from that is to isolate yourself from your family, and be grateful to your new ‘protector.’
After I got away from him, the ‘experience’ never resurfaced. If he could place the intensity of that experience in me — something that could cause me to literally buckle over in pain and feel like I’m about to lose my mind — what else has this man done to isolate his victims and ‘implant’ thoughts and memories? Did he do this to Natasha because she was too much trouble? We all know who he becomes once he tires of you. If you don’t go quietly, he becomes intolerably cruel. Just ask Moni.
The sorry truth of all this is how many wonderful people could have been supportive to each other through all this trauma. But instead, he pits everyone against everyone. He empowers the worst aspects in the women around him. Add to that the howling hyenas — Jim, Moni, Jen, his ol buddies — circling you waiting for their chance. This was literally the playground of hell.
Btw, let’s see Marc Gafni or Shankadoodle come out publicly to defend him the way he did for them.
I’ll wait…
EXACTLY!!
Speaking of Marc Gafni, here a women who gave a talk about her experience working with him. She uses pseudonym for his name, but it’s a story worth hearing. I don’t think most people who were aware of his residence at the movement center knew his back story. Or did they?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=2ENUxb4DcCU
Two peas in a pod.
I think people knew. Shoemaker also buddied up to John Friend. Like attracts like. Shameless abusers. But who could say anything? Going against Gafni/Friend/Shankadoodle meant you were against Michael. He used them to camouflage himself, as I believe Shoemaker to be a far far worse abuser, and a severe drug addict. They use each other to defend the indefensible. Poor selfless spiritual teachers victimized by angry ex-girlfriends and women who didn’t get what they wanted. They’re good people! Serving others! No good deed goes unpunished and all that crap.
The fact of the matter is that all this can exist simultaneously. If you never get too close you get to come to meditation or retreats, go home, and walk away profoundly amazed and blessed, and yes, your life transformed.
He also likes to do more for those that don’t live with him, since they’re not fully bought in and he’ll want them to return.
Once you’re on the inside, things change a bit, and if you happen to be one of the very unlucky ones, he will “pick you” and bring you into his “inner circle”.
This will be very confusing and disturbing at first, but you’ll convince yourself to trust him (because he has many beautiful and wonderful qualities, and because he’s already brought amazing healing to your life, so..you decided to trust), and next thing you know you’ll be getting choked out regularly, and possibly engaging in the drugs and the sex “errands” regularly if you’re “good” or “submissive” or “devoted” or “loving” enough.
You may also make the mistake of bringing your daughters or other family members in, because you haven’t realized yet how disturbing and abusive what’s happening to you is.
You make all kinds of excuses for him. He was traumatized from early on in life, he can’t handle conflict, and life has broken his heart so many times, that he needs help and love.
He convinces you that it’s *your* job to be the one to give him this love and relief, even though you’re 40years younger than him and literally just walked into the place less than a year ago and had never heard or practiced anything like anything they teach at this wonderful place before.
See now you owe it to him too, since he is doing so many wonderful things for you and “saving your life”, now you owe him to give your all to be as giving and loving as you can be while you pretend to enjoy the sex, etc.
Only now after a few months he will get frustrated with you and increase the pressure. Why aren’t you “getting it” right away? It took him less than a year with Rudi to “get it”, why is every student he’s ever encountered so inept. Eventually, you’ve either managed to convince him you’re useful enough and he’ll keep you around, or he’ll decide you’re not grateful or useful enough, or you’ve gone to crazy from all the strangulation, and pressure and guilt-tripping and drugs, and he’ll kick you out.
It will be absolutely shocking and sudden, you will have never seen it coming since he’s been telling you this whole time you’re the only one who loves him and brings him relief from the pain and disappointment of his life, and you’ll slowly begin to learn that he’s been discrediting you to everyone behind your back, complaining about how useless, mentally unwell you are (he will make up a specific diagnosis), and how ungrateful you’ve been.
You fill finally connect all the dots and understand why everyone seemed to hate you the whole time, and eventually, shockingly, learn that this has been his pattern for DECADES and nothing he ever lived with you was unique or special as he claimed. Turns out he has a sex and drug addiction and needs new people to play with regularly since many become annoying to him or go crazy after some time.
Is he wonderful, healing, beautiful, profound, and your magical fairy tale guru? Yes, and… it will depend on how much you decide to believe in him how close you might get, and discover the many other sides and shadows for yourself.
The kicker, if you become traumatized in any way from your demonstrated commitment, trust, and devotion to him, and wake up one day horrified at how much your life and mental health has spiraled, he will say “non-duality baby!”
And fry you for not integrating it all and becoming traumatized from the violence he has repeatedly, and insensitively, inflicted upon you.
Traumatized means, you are not the same as before, you have out of proportion reactions, as victims of domestic and ritual abuse usually do.
You will be less functional, you may have new venereal diseases, and you will become the receptacle of any spirit he doesn’t want to deal with, and claim its because you are not loving unconditionally or being difficult, when you are literally just traumatized and trying to make sense of WTF has happened to you and why on earth you trusted him. Oh yeah, because no one ever talks about all the previous women, its a dark secret, you had no idea, you really believed he was trying to teach you and guide you all along…
Yes
❤️
“Turns out he…needs new people to play with regularly since many become annoying to him or go crazy after some time.”
He probably has narcissistic personality disorder, and people with NPD require a constant new source of “narcissistic supply.”
It doesn’t matter how amazing any one person is, they will never, ever be enough for a person with NPD. The “new supply” buzz wears off quickly and the narc goes for the new supply, who they’ve been (usually secretly) grooming while they’ve been with you, since they know your new-supply buzz will wear off. It ALWAYS goes this way.
I suggest you study up on NPD relationships to try to make a little more sense of what’s happened to you…mentalhealness on YouTube is extremely enlightening.
None of these realities are exclusive to each other. There is room for all of jt
Thank you..your comment hits the nail on the head.. thanks for shimming light on truth.
Yes Natasha ❤️❤️❤️ Wise words!
How do you know this is Natasha? Why are you naming a victim that hasn’t come forward yet? Whoever this person above is, they want to remain anonymous. I think whoever wrote this is possibly with the cult trying to bully a victim back into silence. Since I know the cult, y’all flying monkeys are the same.
How do you know this is Natasha? Flying monkeys, bullying, Intimidation tactics.
“Is he wonderful, healing, beautiful, profound, and your magical fairy tale guru? Yes, and… ”
Yes, it seems so, which is how he seduces you and why you stay. Always trying to reclaim how it was in the beginning.
In actuality, he is a shape-shifting madman controlled by the demonic forces he worships and offers your body and menstrual blood to. Everything he purported to be is a mirage to trap you, and sadly, it always was.
I was trapped loving the man I thought he was for so many years. Making excuses. Blaming myself. It’s only when I finally woke up fully to see the truth… he never was that. Never. He does what he needs to do, says what he needs to say to lure you in and shut you up. He is evil personified, shrouded by a cloak of fairytales. Free yourself. He never loved us. Ever.
You are amazing and I love you. ❤️
Swamiji, my faith is shaky. Smite this evil one down. This writer is evil. Stop him Swamiji. I will beg for your mercy.
WHAT?! Do not dare blame others if your faith is shaky!! Do not dare you cowardly trash!! – all this that is being reported about your guru is TRUE. Now sit and do your practice and digest the tensions that are coming up and the real duality you are being confronted with and see if you can resolve it from within.
Do not DARE blame others, and have the audacity to request that a man standing up for the women eaten by this guru of yours be harmed just because the truth makes little old you uncomfortable!! Your guru needs to feed the powers he uses so that he can give you the bliss and fairy tales you need to imagine that you are safe and protected eternally in a fucked up world.
These women are just like you, they loved him, they trusted him, the had profound faith in the teachings of the siddhas. Because if their love and faith in him, they decided to trust him when he started choking them, having sex with them, bringing in drugs they would have never in a million years touched, and so on.. it will snowball so fast you’ll never know how on earth you got so deep so fast. And soon, all these activities and the sprits he will feed on you, will drive you unstable or mad, and he will toss you out like yesterday’s trash and lament that god only ever gives him inept and useless students.
Shame on ALL OF YOU who are still benefiting off of swamiji, feeding your in selves off if him, and who are uncomfortable with this other side of him. Shame that you beg him to further harm these women, these families and these people more. All these women LOVED him and devoted themselves to him, that’s how they got here. He has never been able to confront or digest his own childhood traumas, heartbreaks and his parents rejection of him. So he has massive sex, violence and drug addiction problems because of it.
Do not bring further harm to these innocent people who just like him, are now severely traumatized, drowning in their own compensatory patterns, broken, and have been rejected by the guru they deeply loved, believed in and sacrificed for.
And now Frank comes along and is willing to speak for them, and bring their abuse and suffering to the light, and it makes you uncomfortable so you want your dear guru to do some more sex, drugs, blood and pain rituals to “smite” him. I mean, how do you even think smiting works and at what cost do you think it comes with.
The powers must be fed. And its a vicious cycle.
All because your dear guru prefers to eat cancer, or take on inordinate amounts of physical pain, than deal with his own heartbreaks, and grow from the experience.
Those of you that are still benefiting from these cycles. Do not DARE wish for these victims to be further punished. Sit on your cushion and deal with it, and grow from it, and sober up.
To “How Dare You”
👏👏👏!!!!
Wow, this is everything.
Respect ❤️
I can’t tell if these comments are a joke, or if this is Moni.
I guess, same same.
It’s Moni, or Jen.
There can be no evil when truth is being revealed. If there was a real spiritual practice of compassion and love going on with your beliefs, it would not be secret and nobody would have to come forward.
People would be given informed consent about what goes on and how things are structured and how merit is granted even just in terms of what their donations are for (including being told whether the money is spent for $500 wine, $1000 on prostitutes, this much on foreign property for the guru, this much on his hot tub etc), and people wouldn’t be duped with equivocating language like being called to an “internship” or “seva” or a “puja” when you’re actually being selected for sexual needs for the “guru” or chosen because they see you as someone they can exploit.
If it was about love they would lift up the lowest most vulnerable, and humble themselves before them. They would not shame you for barely scraping by while they gorge themselves on lavish parties and exotic trips.
There wouldn’t be bowing and scraping like the guru is an emporer. Women wouldn’t have their butts openly grabbed during darshan in front of everyone. They would not make you constantly afraid. They would not object to laughter (especially as a kriya) nor be afraid of mockery. The guru would not act in so much rage and anger against supposedly “lesser” people barely questioning him.
This must be very hard for you to take. Consider going to igotout.org. There are resources available for people who want to exit abusive high control cults. There is a better world out there.
I got out. You can too.
Gaslighting yourself. This is what happens with him. You can get out.
igotout.org/resources
I’m sure destroying this family is one of the things he’s particularly secretly most proud of in his life.
and destroying poor Natasha, of course, she was so full of innocence, genuineness, and light. She had some very natural powers of her own. I’m sure that’s another reason why he targeted her. He ate her up, spit her out, and blamed her for the entire thing. Then she started speaking out against how misleading and harmful his engagement with young women was and he really went after her after that.
It’s all very sad. I pray for them to heal from the darkness he pulled them all into.
This has got to stop. You are ruining the reputations of good people with your hateful bias.
Dr. K. does not think of this the way you do. Your smoky attitude is sinful.
This is not fornication or adulterous, like it says in the Bible.
This is tantra to raise the kundalini
What’s good about giving drugs to drug addicts in order to extort and manipulate them, groping women in public, sexual abuse and rape in private, cover-ups, fraud, bullying, strangling, beating, threats, abuse of charitable funds, giving people STDs, using mental health to denigrate others, calling hard-working people “animals” and “beasts”, creating a toxic workplace, violating OSHA, underpaying, not properly disclosing employees, extorting members to also commit fraud and cover-up, violate medical privacy, using medical conditions to coerce consent to sex, using promises of spiritual gifts to coerce consent to sex, not providing proper health care and workers comp for dangerous jobs, and probably more I can’t yet know.
You spit on the concept of polyamory btw, in terms of plural love and having multiple partners the world has moved on and the West largely accepts it. Polyamory communities aren’t about this at all. You are in an abusive cult. Go to igotout.org.
You aren’t alone and it’s better out here.
Thank you Tina for speaking up for us. I feel heard. I came out of the Hazelden Betty Ford clinic only to be taken right down when Chet told me to contact him if ever drank. Instead of helping me, he handed me a mirror with a very large amount of cocaine and ordered me to do it.
https://www.igotout.org/resources
You can get out.
https://www.igotout.org/resources
False. Tantra was infiltrated by Luciferian ritual practices.
with a baseball bat added
Who the fuck is Dr K? Monica… being addicted to coke and needing to get gang banged and whipped because you hate yourself is not seva. Freak.
Ruth Knight and Eddie Rosen, Sarah Mocus, Maggie Daly, Karen and Jerry Sutherland, Sharon Ward (aka Sadhvi), Theresa and Salman Khan, Moni O’Neal, Gretchen and Kristen Kreiger, Laura Santi, Anna Brooke and Viktor Usov, J Tom Fabrizio and Patty Slote, Sarah Mocas, Aiden Seraphim, Chris Jackson, Govind Cornelius and Claudia Henry, Tara and Michael Israel, Kari Gronningsater, Kathy Wyer, Barbara Rabin, Marc Gafni, Rio Hibler, Jesse Sweeney, Vivina and Howard Boster., Andrew Bonner, Becky Reese, Brenda Siragusa, Michelle Valentino, Heather Gail George, Jan La Ru, Patty Slote and Tom Fabrizio, Jim Brissette, James DeRochers Barnette Davis, Chris Jackson.
You are all culpable.
I doubt living in the house means you knew, but I bet plenty not living in the house knew a lot! Kerry Kaplan from his college days, Kerry Smith, Loni, Chris Gardner, Mary Grace, and so many other KNEW these atrocities and stayed quiet, stuck up for him, defended him to newer students and kissed his ass.
Thank you for providing such a thorough list. They should come forward now or go down with the rest of them. Reports to FR can be made confidentially. There are plenty of victims.
Nothing is consensual when the relationship is between a student and a guru. Just like your psychiatrist cannot engage in sex with you – psychological boundaries. He’s done.
Some of these people are in fact victims speaking to authorities.
This one made me cry. These multi generational’s have been robbed so hard. Having their parents pick him over them.
You leave him your parents leave you?l like Jehovah Witnesses. I can’t relate in this way but I suppose my own family was cultish in its own right. A lot of dirty secrets. Money greed. You were ok if you took the abuse and didn’t talk about it.
Once I did it was animalistic the way you are driven out from the pack.
For years I couldn’t watch the commercials with surrendered animals at the pound. That look like they are waiting for their families to come back but they never do. Humans feel like that too. I wouldn’t go back for anything but we are communal creatures and we all want family.
That’s one of the biggest tools of control here. You fall deeply in love with so many of these people and it hurts like hell when you can’t ever go home again. There are several generations of families broken by him. So many years lost with loved ones, some long dead that we can never get back.
The house that burned down was his summer retreat property in Martha’s Vineyard. The house was up for sale before the move from Boston to Portland. The fire was rumored to be caused by arson, in order to sell the acres of property and get the insurance money.
Major kudos to this woman for her willingness to step into the incredibly uncomfortable and inconvenient reality that the man seemingly full of light who supplies the lovely meditations – is also a sex and drug addict, rapist, exploitive, manipulative, extremely abusive of the most vulnerable, sadist, pathological liar.
Yep, one of his FAVORITE things to do is pit family members against each other
Her name is Leiko, not Laiko.
She has a story to tell. and was in a relationship with Micheal for many years, but it’s up to her to tell it. As for all of the other girls who grew up in the Ashram, it is also their stories to tell if they choose. Some were victims some were not. Some knew more than others.
I don’t think it’s right or fair to them to speculate and bring their names into the story if they are not giving their permission and are not coming forward themselves. They were innocent.. and had no idea what Swami was song behind closed doors. The ones who eventually learned of his ways, or who experienced his abuses directly, were seriously traumatized and should be protected rather called out and speculated about..
Silence is a crime.
If silence is a crime, then that implies all of the anonymous commenters who were victims or who knew victims are criminals. If you care so much why don’t you use you name? You demonstrate your own complicity by hiding your identity. Are you afraid?!? Many are.. many victims have been commenting but aren’t ready to use their names. Are they criminals?!? I think not.
If we wait until people feel ready, they will be further victimized by the secrets alone, and there will be more and more victims. This is healthiest thing to do for everyone. Say your name, know that you not alone, and please stand with us.
Everyone has a responsibility to report crimes. You can’t bear witness and then walk away. What have you done to help these “victims”? By hiding in the shadows they are allowing themselves to be victimized further.
Taking a stand against this heinous psychopath is warranted. Stop keeping the secrets. Enough. That plan only allows for decades of abuse. At some point the victims become complicit.
What Chet has are not relationships. Period.
The person who wrote this is a shining example to others.
Relating it to the case of the nxivm cult…The problem with most of those dead-enders who still support Keith. – is that they are unable to look at things from someone else’s perspective. And say. (as this writer has done) “Okay nothing bad happened to me, but I’m open to the truth that bad things DID happen to other people.”
And through doing their own investigation, looking at all the available information they have come to their own conclusion.
Instead, the nxivm cult ead-enders blindly have allegiance to their Vanguard. – who does not deserve their loyalty.
Just like in the nxivm cult you hear about good people, interesting people, smart people who had good experiences.
It’s important for those people to band together and realize that they are the ones who brought the good and the power to the group. They were the positive energy.
Not the other way around. These good people made the community – the community did not make them.
The leader did not bestow upon them good qualities rather he tried to take those good qualities away or use them against each other.
It’s so admirable and refreshing to read an account from a person who was in an abusive, coercive or high control group who themselves did not experience horrors, but is able to have compassion and clarity for those who did suffer at the leaders hand.
And for this writer to be able to make a distinction, “Okay this did not happen to me, but it is the truth of what happened to other people. – who are good people. And no one is deserving of such treatment.”
And to NOT blame the victims.
Good job.
Well done.
Fantastic reporting Frank! Thank you.
Thank you for doing this Frank. I don’t know anyone else who does this type of investigation. I can only imagine how liberating this might feel to a Survivor to know this is being reported. I hope someone in the authorities is reading.
I’m a survivor and I’m not feeling liberated by these posts between members/ex-members who have a vendetta against each other. As a matter of fact, if I hadn’t already told my story, I’d probably just let this place go because it seems to be more about personal relationships between members than rape and assault by the monster overseeing this chaotic sludge.The motive here is becoming questionable. Mine is clear: Stop this SOB and get him in a courtroom.
There’s a lot of pain here and betrayal of relationships that are decades old in some cases. The code of silence ran so deep inside that this is the first time many people have actually had a chance to voice their pain. It just has to unwind in the way it’s going to. So many ugly things happened. It’s going to be ugly on the way out too.