The two women allegedly involved in gang bangs are still with him. That includes the woman the Swami reportedly beat with a baseball bat.
But there is a darker side reported. One woman jumped off a bridge. Another is in a mental hospital. One woman died.
Another woman said the Swami strangled her for his sexual pleasure. Others describe his hypocrisy. He teaches high spiritual truths but preys on vulnerable women who came to learn from him not fuck him.
They point out that he does not have sex with women he is not attracted to.
He punishes women who refuse to have sex with him. Some women consented to avoid his anger. Others, though they found the Swami repulsive, consented because he taught them it was for their spiritual welfare. Some of these women lived in his ashram and were dependent on him for their food and shelter. Whether this is legal consent or coercion is a question that may one day be determined.
By Magoo
Frank is just being taken for a ride. I see too many holes in his story More Intel on Amazing Swami Who Strangles, Beats and Trains Women for Gang-Bangs.
Frank’s become a seller of Swiss Cheese, the stinky variety.
Frank posted a photo of a ”porn studio” gangbang and a caption where he’s trying to insinuate that all gangbangs are ”dangerous” activities, with violent men hurting the women and all kinds of diseases being transmitted. LOL.
In reality, I doubt that Frank, or anybody else here, has ever witnessed a real gangbang in a sex club.
Frank also seemed shocked in his previous article, Bat-Wielding Swami Sent Woman to Gang-Bang, about the concept of men ejaculating or urinating on women, speaking as though he’s never heard of such a thing.
Many women visit sex clubs to freely and voluntarily engage in kinky sex acts such as:
Bukkake (where lots of men take turns ejaculating on the same woman; at her request)
Water Sports or Golden Showers (where men urinate on a woman; at her request)
Spitroast (Use your imagination, but involves two men and one woman)
Blowbang (one woman blowing several men)
Gangbang (usually one or two women doing a room full of men)
Most women bring their husbands/partners to record the activities on video.
Most of these women have partners present, or other friends present, even if they don’t videotape it.
Contrary to Frank’s beliefs, most gangbang activities are not violent or dangerous.
The women are usually VERY MUCH in control, telling each man what he can and can’t do, telling each man when to stop and let another man in, etc.
All it takes is one person to secretly dial 911 (on their cell phone) for the cops to arrive if anybody begins getting violent or mistreating the women sexually.
In today’s world, very few men will mistreat women sexually, especially in a room full of other people (because it will mean many witnesses). That’s why the women who attend these gangbangs are usually 100% in control.
As for venereal diseases, most women will require all the men to wear condoms at gangbangs, or provide a recent STD test.
However, some women will bang total strangers without condoms or STD tests at these sex clubs.
Some women are complete sexual ”freaks.” Usually, they are women from liberal cities (which is why I know that Nice Guy’s Sicilian wife is a closet whore in Beantown).
There are many more whorish women in states like Oregon than in other states. It’s just part of the liberal culture there. Oregon is practically a socialist country. Commies everywhere.
Anyway, getting back to Frank’s ”source.’ She alleges all kinds of violent things, yet she never called 911 even one time? That’s fishy to me.
She witnessed shit like this for years but never once called 911 to help these poor women” victims”?
That’s fishy to me.
Even now, why doesn’t she go to the police (or the FBI) to help them shut down this alleged ring of violence against women? That’s fishy to me. I’m guessing that she never witnessed any woman doing anything they didn’t voluntarily agree to and enjoy doing.
She’s ALSO alleging that ”violent” sessions — where women get beaten and strung up — were broadcast via WEBCAM for ”members” to watch? That’s fishy to me.
If those things happened (and were broadcast), watchers could have recorded those sessions using simple SCREEN CAPTURE SOFTWARE (This can’t be prevented from a distant website, and it doesn’t take expertise to record your screen).
Frank is too dumb to know this.
While software (possibly browser add-ons) could prevent screen recording, every viewer would have to install these on their own VOLUNTARILY. But this would not stop people from using a cell phone to record their computer monitor, which means it’s impossible to prevent recording these sessions.
Thus, if this REALLY happened, there would have been MANY video recordings shared online (especially with such a high profile SWAMI behind this. His enemies would have circulated such videos widely.
These women would have been required to sign model releases. In addition, the organization (which broadcasts them) would have been required to maintain records of every model shown on the webcam to prove their age and their consent to various activities. The law requires it. That’s why I seriously DOUBT that any such webcam sessions took place. I think she’s making it up. 🙂
Yet, Frank can’t find a single person with a video of such activities. LOL. Imagine that.
Why is that?
Frank is being taken for a ride by nameless bullshitters who refuse to speak to authorities or produce a single video of these events. I’m guessing that the main narrator is British by her use of the term ”carpark.”
I’ve never heard any American use carpark in conversation before.
Why does her nationality matter? It doesn’t really, other than British women are fabulous storytellers. 🙂
I’m guessing that most of these women are ”disgruntled” people with an ax to grind, likely because they’ve “aged out” and are not wanted by the group anymore (hell hath no fury like a woman scorned).
If these women went to the police to tell their stories, I might begin believing them.
But they won’t.
Why not? Frank says it’s because they want to protect the anonymity of the women involved. That’s fishy to me.
Because if women are still being abused, it’s more important to SHUT DOWN THE ABUSE than to worry about the reputations of past women.
Can we agree, Frank? Yes? No? Will you answer, Frank?
Frank is too stupid to question anything I’ve said.
He WANTS this story to be true.
Franks WANTS gangbangs to be “dangerous,” and ”crime-ridden” activities. Frank’s goal is to associate “gangbangs” with “bad people.”
Thus, he won’t do any real journalism other than being a PARROT for anonymous bullshitters. Lol.
PS — Nice Guy’s going to get taken to the cleaners in divorce court once his WHORE of a wife finally divorces his sorry butt. I’d recommend getting a great divorce attorney ASAP because she wears the household’s pants. He won’t even see it coming.
These writers are both sick themselves..pushing these horrible controversial word landfills to boost their readerships…Sad sorry excuses for journalism!
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There is no greater sorrow for women than rape…..It troubles and grieves me greatly to hear men say that many women want to be raped. Christina de Pizan, Le Livre de la Cite de Dames, 1404 (Please note the date that this was written. 1404)
Only 310 out of every 1,000 sexual assaults are reported to police. That means more than 2 out of 3 go unreported. https://www.rainn.org/statistics/criminal-justice-system
Hate filled opinions like those expressed in this article are part of the many reasons that sexual assaults are not reported. Why have women gone to attorneys to settle their sexual assaults out of court? The claims can be settled quietly and quickly without any blame being laid on the victims. In 1997, Oregon case # 970604804, Mandell vs. Shoemaker was settled out of court for an alleged seven figure amount (that means millions!) and the court documents were sealed. No public exposure, no scandals, no reputations put on the line and Shoemaker was not deterred from abusing more of his “students”. Shoemaker was represented by Stephen English. Sharon Ward was also named in the case. English has continued to represent Shoemaker and no doubt has earned a pretty penny on this type of representation. Sharon Ward, a devotee with a law degree, who joined Shoemaker in Indiana, married his brother and followed him to Massachusetts, Portland and Gold Beach. She knows everything that has been discussed and negotiated from every settlement and NDA that Shoemaker has been involved with. Like many cult members, Ward may be willing to take a bullet for this horrible, abusive and disgusting conman.
If there are out of court settlements and NDAs being signed by English like the rest of us sign holiday greeting cards, what does that say about adult consent? Most alleged victims don’t engage an attorney expecting a hefty settlement saying they consented, and most attorneys won’t take a case of alleged sexual abuse without a retainer if the “victim” says they consented to all the abuse.
Time to take these NDAs to the light and find out what Shoemaker and his cult members are really doing to those they abuse.
There is no greater sorrow for women than rape…..It troubles and grieves me greatly to hear men say that many women want to be raped. Christina de Pizan, Le Livre de la Cite de Dames, 1404 (Please note the date that this was written. 1404)
Only 310 out of every 1,000 sexual assaults are reported to police.
That means more than 2 out of 3 go unreported. https://www.rainn.org/statistics/criminal-justice-system
Hate-filled opinions like those expressed in this article are part of the many reasons that sexual assaults are not reported. Why have women gone to attorneys to settle their sexual assaults out of court? The claims can be settled quietly and quickly without any blame being laid on the victims.
In 1997, Oregon case # 970604804, Mandell vs. Shoemaker was settled out of court for an alleged seven-figure amount (that means millions!) and the court documents were sealed. No public exposure, no scandals, no reputations put on the line and Shoemaker was not deterred from abusing more of his “students”.
Shoemaker was represented by Stephen English. Sharon Ward was also named in the case. English has continued to represent Shoemaker and no doubt has earned a pretty penny on this type of representation.
Sharon Ward, a devotee with a law degree, who joined Shoemaker in Indiana, married his brother and followed him to Massachusetts, Portland, and Gold Beach. She knows everything that has been discussed and negotiated from every settlement and NDA that Shoemaker has been involved with. Like many cult members, Ward may be willing to take a bullet for this horrible, abusive and disgusting conman.
If there are out-of-court settlements and NDAs being signed by English like the rest of us sign holiday greeting cards, what does that say about adult consent? Most alleged victims don’t engage an attorney expecting a hefty settlement saying they consented, and most attorneys won’t take a case of alleged sexual abuse without a retainer if the “victim” says they consented to all the abuse.
Time to take these NDAs to the light and find out what Shoemaker and his cult members are really doing to those they abuse.
Why do people fall for this kind of rubbish? Ugly cult leader says it is for the good of your inner self and ego that you have sex with me. Pull the other one, it’s got bells on it – why would anyone fall for that stuff?
Swami Kinkananda is into BDSM. He’s woke and I’m oke. He’s dope and I’m into rope. Stop making this out to be some crime. He’s onto sadism and women like masochism. I’m cool.
It’s consensual but people need to be warned before seeking spiritual enlightenment from the swami strangler.
These psychopaths are incredibly deceptive and persuasive- anyone vulnerable doesn’t stand a chance. Please keep writing to keep innocent people away from his reach.
Magoo started well but went off the rails to no surprise.
He is right on his opening bit. People (you know something woman are) have kinks. There is nothing wrong with exploring those kinks be it gang bangs or other things. Doesn’t matter what sex you are exploring those kinks. Being a woman doesn’t make it worse than if it were a man, that is just religious nonsense.
Those that find kinks deviant do not seem to realize that its more of a “you” problem rather then a them problem. Conservative “good Christian values” (aka massive hypocrites) areas of the country have shown over and over they consume much more porn than anyone else. Suspect the kinks are with greater frequency to match. Kinks knows no political bend and to think otherwise is incredibly naive at best. Not sure why his silly ass had to bring it up at all.
The sex as evil thing that all religions teach is large part of why people like the Swami can exist. The shame drilled into people starting from childhood is difficult to overcome and prevents people from coming forward when sexual abused.
Doesn’t help that all those “good Christians”, “good Muslims, good are usually the first to attack the victim rather then the victimizer. Its not up to him to control his needs, its up to her to avoid and control him. You see the mentality leak through when (usually conservative) politicians leak such ideas as “Rape is kinda like the weather. If it’s inevitable, relax and enjoy it”. They are saying what the people around them also believe, they just made the mistake of saying the quiet part out loud. Someone not coming forward with stories of involuntary sex acts, especially with stories of gang bangs, shouldn’t be a surprise. Sadly the surprise is when they do.
There isn’t anything wrong with the sex activities Swami and many of his followers enjoy. The sex isn’t what makes this wrong despite suggestions from some. The problem begins, much like with Raniere, when engages in tactics that take away the full volunteer nature of the activity. Sex should always, without exception, be an act of consent from all participants, free of any applied pressure or trickery in any way, shape or form.
Removing even a little of that consent inevitably leads to extreme mental anguish and problems for those that become victims. Sadly much like with Raniere’s case, the participants bowing to that pressure and saying yes, even as they mentally scream no, prevents a real meaningful prosecution. If enough came forward and worked together they might take Swami down but that doesn’t seem likely.
The following are partial quotes and translation of Magoo’s commentary/thoughts.
“Many women(my mom) visit sex clubs to freely (she gets paid money) and voluntarily to engage in kinky sex acts such as:
Spitroast: involves two men( my grandpa and my dad) and one woman(my sister).
Gangbang: One women doing a room full of men (this is why, I don’t know my dad).
However, some women will bang total strangers without condoms or STD tests at these sex clubs. (This is how I was conceived and most likely how I contracted aids.
Most women(grandma) bring their husbands (my uncle) to record the activities on video.”
Good post. Poor bangcock and his unique upbringing… But if he doesn’t know his dad, how does he know his dad is involved in the roast?
NutJob-
“How does he know his dad is involved in the roast?”
Ask Bangkok — I merely translated. Nothing that spews from Bangkok is rational. He was born 8 months too early; dropped on his head as an infant; and has been eating paint chips his whole life.
Nice Guy, do you think “Bangkok” was named after where he was conceived, or how he was conceived? Both maybe?
IceNine-
My guess is “how” he was conceived.
In addition: Frank never asked Bangkok if he’s CISGENDERED.
I believe Frank should enquire.
The fake guru Kumare documents how he pretends to be a guru, gets followers and then has to tell them the truth.
https://reelgood.com/movie/kumare-2012
I said that it was not at all uncommon for these things to occur in bdsm. I laid it out, plain and simple. No bells or whistles, no fake spiritual rituals to shroud what is actually happening. It’s the bait and switch that is the problem, which is exactly how it’s gone on for so many years and continues to hurt young women. As for the (final) two who are still with him, well I’m sure they have their own issues and if they want to work it out gang banging, and they feel it’s their own free will, all power to them. They are certainly neck-deep in the Kool Aid.
Men who don’t like things they hear often disparage the women brave enough to finally stand in their story. They pull details apart that are condensed for brevity and think it’s proof of something. I really don’t know why, but I guess my ex-teacher’s adage, your reactions are a mirror of yourself seems to apply. He was good for something, I suppose.
You said you don’t believe my story, and say gang bangs are a nothing burger if you’re anyone who knows anything, like you. Unlike poor “dumb” Frank who seems a bit overwhelmed by the whole thing, so you graciously enlighten us with a dictionary of ‘whacky’ sex acts and legal requirements for all internet broadcasts everywhere.
I’m confused though. Should I be going to the FBI or should I be acting like this whole thing is totally unremarkable, as you indicate?
Btw, I know because I was there. In the room. And there are many women who have left who are silent or remain anonymous because of backlash like this from nameless guys on the internet who seem to always know better. If it’s not enough we have to deal with him and his attack dogs, we have to deal with random assholes as well.
If there are legal means available, let’s hear what they may be. Perhaps you’re a legal expert as well as a sex club connoisseur and an internet broadcasting expert. Consent in these circumstances is the slipperiest of slopes. Otherwise, the only thing available to victims is to speak out as a warning to others of what you’re actually getting yourself into.
“Usually, they are women from liberal cities It’s just part of the liberal culture there”
Or, the cliche really is there is more (hidden) sexual perversion in untight conservative areas because of repressed sexuality. Also, the more a right-winger rails against homosexuality, the more likey he is covering up his surpressed homosexual desires.
But thanks, Magoo, for visiting many dozens of sex clubs all accross this great country of ours to give us this report from the field.
Frank, why would you ever have someone this loathsome add his two cents to this. I doubt anyone will continue to come forward after this. Been exploited enough.
The truth won’t die from a challenge.
Then I challenge you Frank to give truthful updates on Suneel’s ongoing legal problems.
Why won’t Suneel reveal the who/what/why and how of obtaining the blackmail material and collateral porn of the DOS women to the court?
Where you one of the people Suneel shared explicit photos with? Why does Suneel want redactions on this information?
It is suspect when you do not post about such Nxivm related legal matters. Or the Isaac Edwards scandal.
The truth is always fair. Unless it’s the truth about your new cult besties
And this is why women don’t speak out. Well done, Frank, for giving the trolls airspace.
If this is consensual sex – brazen as it is — and the women were adults, then it may be time for the adults to accept responsibility for their own actions. They could have left their guru if they did not want to be in gang bangs or take drugs. On the other hand, if there’s something he did that is illegal, I want to know about it.
Wow Frank…. how much did you get paid to write this? It’s most definitely abuse. Sounds like you were just trolling for some smut. Way to victim shame. Gross. https://www.greatmiattorneys.com/personal-injury/understanding-sexual-assault
Hi Jen. We’re watching you too
The articles and comments regarding Shoemaker’s cultic abuses have focused on the idea of adult consent.
There are issues that need to be addressed to determine if indeed ongoing and active consent on the part of the “students” was always in place during sexual activity including beatings, and other extreme forms of BDSM.
Were drugs involved, if so, was the subject of the activities able to give active consent while under the influence of drugs? Was there a power differential? Was a person of authority using coercive influence directing the activities? Just a few of many issues to consider.
But what about the children born into Shoemaker’s cult. There were children who were born or brought into the cult and they were groomed through their young lives to accept becoming the sexual partner of the cult leader, Shoemaker.
The tantric teachings describe how a guru can use young consorts sexually to obtain a longer life and other benefits. This has to do with semen flow up the spinal cord and other physiologically as yet unexplained phenomenon.
Becoming this type of sexual partner in some spiritual communities is taught as a great privilege and had unlimited spiritual value. How could children born into Shoemaker’s cult, groomed all their lives, give consent to this type of sexual activity?
The parents of these children were complicit as were the other cult members. Now that these children are adults and have left the cult, where are their voices? Connie, Liz, Laura what do your children have to say? Second-generation cult members have a totally different perspective on cult life than their parents.