This article by Fred, who has written for Frank Report in the past about Ramtha, is in response to ‘Nithyananda Is as Real as They Come — He Is the Leading Guru in India’ – Disciple Says
By Fred
Even if all these claims of a vast following of Nithyananda Swami are true, this has absolutely nothing to do with the allegations of sexual abuse.
If there ever was an Indian guru with a vast international following, this would have been Sathya Sai Baba, who died in 2011. He is still widely venerated. Yet for decades, there were multiple credible allegations of sexual abuse:
https://saisexuality.blogspot.com/2018/06/sathya-sai-baba-sex-abuse-full-coverage.html
— unfortunately most of the links here no longer work, but the titles tell the story, also see:
https://saisexuality.blogspot.com/2018/06/the-findings-by-faye-and-david-bailey.html
Sai Baba was well known for his miracles, which turned out (on video inspection) to be remarkably poor sleight-of-hand tricks. I knew a Sai follower who personally witnessed the following in India.
A representative from a Sai congregation was telling Sai Baba about their new temple. Sai Baba asked if there was anything needed to complete it. The man said, “A gold statue of Krishna would be wonderful” — so Sai Baba waved his hands, and hey prestissimo, there was a gold statue of Krishna.
Now, we’re talking about real gold here.
Sai Baba was once accused of flouting the precious metals laws in India by handling so much gold; the Indian government ruled (as I recall) that this gold was produced supernaturally, and was therefore not subject to government regulations.
How difficult is it, to whisper to a devotee to ask for a gold statue of Krishna? And if you know the question is coming, to have this artifact hidden up your saffron sleeve? And if you are running a gold-smuggling syndicate, to have a veneer of gold put on a statue to fool the masses?
Here is another story I was told.
A Canadian was at the Sai ashram, and ran out of film for his camera. He had an audience with the guru and told him about the lack of film and how he wanted a picture. Sai Baba clicked his fingers, and next thing was holding the exact film required, saying he got it from the man’s regular camera shop in Canada.
According to the story I was told, when the guy got back to Canada, the camera store manager described this Indian man with saffron robes and an Afro hairdo who came in on a certain day and bought this film. The time and date were the same as Sai Baba’s manifestation. A miracle!
If you are running an international fraud syndicate, and it’s important to fool international visitors (just assuming that this story is true): exactly how hard is it for a Sai devotee in Canada to put on a wig and pull off a hoax? If you have an insider, a friend of the “mark”, who knows (a) that this guy has run out of a particular type of film; (b) that he is seeing Sai the day after tomorrow at a particular time and will want a picture, may even have talked about this; (c) exactly where the guy buys his film in Canada — this is a trivial trick to pull off, yet it will absolutely stun and astound the credulous.
Many magic tricks work with the collaboration of an insider. I knew Sai devotees outside India who would describe how holy ash would mysteriously appear in the night at the foot of a picture of Sai Baba. All it takes is one insider in the house to do the deed, keep it secret, and like Santa Claus, you have a miracle in the morning. Sai Baba was always magically producing this ash, which on analysis was mostly dried cow dung, as I remember.
One thing I believe for sure: Sai Baba knew what he was doing with his sexual tricks, and there’s no doubt that he had certain powers. One story I was told first-hand by the protagonist, which was witnessed by many, and which I have no reason to doubt, went like this:
This woman, who was a friend of mine (I worked with her husband, who witnessed and confirmed this story) went to the Sai ashram for the first time, and the very first time she saw Sai Baba, she was so excited that she ran up to him and touched him. She said she immediately fell to the floor convulsing. She recovered after a little while, and was then told: you must “never” touch Sai Baba, his energy is so high that unless you are prepared for it, you will get a shock.
Now, you also get this kind of thing in charismatic churches — some of it may be outright hoax, but there really is something to “kundalini energy”, and adepts do warn people not to touch them, not to shake their hands. This is partly because they are so sensitive that even a slight touch will see them lose energy. (The story of Jesus, who knew someone had touched him and obtained healing, comes to mind.) See what you think of the church in this video — is this a hoax, mass hysteria, or a combination of the two?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKKLIpYtFRg
But back to my main point: the fact that you are a wildly popular guru, venerated by top politicians and celebrities, means nothing in the face of abuse allegations. The famous Brazilian healer John of God is another case of a widely celebrated abuser:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/john-of-god-sex-abuse_n_5c179c3fe4b05d7e5d841543
I know absolutely nothing about Nithyananda apart from what I’ve read here, but this whole “he’s the biggest guru” story just makes me even more suspicious.
I am personally pretty certain that we are about to see a major manifestation of this kind of thing on our increasingly hysterical planet, a really “really” big god-man emerging, perhaps with holograms in the sky and booming words reverberating out of mountains.
Don’t be fooled.
How would a woman feel if her husband – whom she worships – asks her to go other men and apes and demons for sex ? This is what Rama says to Seeta and which is not covered in your write up. Does such a man deserve to be a King – let alone a God ?
Rama told Sita to whore herself- this is in the Valmiki Ramayana.dindooohindoo
SO THE WOMEN WHO NITTY SUPPOSEDLY RAPED – MIGHT HAVE COME TO HIM ON THEIR OWN !
Chapter [Sarga] 115
तद्गच्छ त्वानुजानेऽद्य यथेष्टं जनकात्मजे |
एता दश दिशो भद्रे कार्यमस्ति न मे त्वया || ६-११५-१८
“O Seetha! That is why, I am permitting you now. Go wherever you like. All these ten directions are open to you, my dear lady! There is no work to be done to me, by you.”
तदद्य व्याहृतं भद्रे मयैतत् कृतबुद्धिना |
लक्ष्मणे वाथ भरते कुरु बुद्धिं यथासुखम् || ६-११५-२२
“O gracious lady! Therefore, this has been spoken by me today, with a resolved mind. Set you mind on Lakshmana or Bharata, as per your ease.”
įatrughne vätha sugréve räkņase vä vibhéņaëe |
niveįaya manaų séte yathä vä sukhamätmanaų || 6-115-23
“O Seetha! Otherwise, set your mind either on Shatrughna or on Sugreeva or on Vibhishana the demon; or according to your own comfort.”
The ultimate respect of the Hindoo woman in Hindooism is captured in this verse !
The Biggest stigma of a Rape victim is that she is not a virgin ! But there is a solution !
How to restore virginity as per the Hindoo Vedas.dindooohindoo
“ A woman who has been unchaste should worship Siva in his calm aspect, Siva who is Kama.
Then she should summon a Brahmin and give herself to him, thinking, ‘This is Kama who has come for the sake of sexual pleasure.’
And whatever the Brahmin wishes, the sensuous woman should do.
For thirteen months she should honour in this way any Brahmin who comes to the house for the sake of sexual pleasures, & there is no immorality in this for “noble ladies or prostitutes ”
WHAT CAN I SAY ? THE WORD SHOCK DOES NOT EXIST IN HINDOOISM
fuck you sai baba is an insparation
i dont give a fuck what yo guys say
baba himself is such a kind and loving person
even if he uses fake magic, he shows people hope
many homless people in india who want to give up might not because they believe in baba
What is never written about but demands to be known is that a huge chunk of the American incense market is under the Sai Baba corporation! Most people have no idea about this! It would be nice to start a movement here to boycott his products!
Just one additional observation: there are multiple accounts of Sai Baba harvesting semen from young men and collecting it in a handkerchief. Now: no one who followed the infamous Pi**agate saga will forget John Podesta’s square cloth white-and-black handkerchief that he left behind after a social event at “the Field house”, and which had a “map” that seemed “pizza related”:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/32795
This was perhaps the clearest instance of some kind of code being used, featuring “pizza”.
Much as I don’t want to know anything about any of this: there seems to be a pattern of handkerchiefs being used in these nefarious activities. There is chatter of a “handkerchief code” in which black and white has a particular meaning. Wikipedia has a page on the handkerchief codes used in the gay community, in which black denotes S&M:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handkerchief_code
Do not make a mistake: there are very powerful energies involved here. The story of the woman who fell convulsing after touching Sai Baba is a genuine first-hand account. The whole point was that she had no idea that this was going to happen, so it was not a hysterical copycat reaction, and this person was definitely not generally someone who would throw a fit like this.
I know many of you are skeptical, but I can assure you that kundalini energy is very real. It’s just an energy, it does *not* imply enlightenment, but it can be associated with extreme sexual power, and it can be cultivated by people with ill intentions. The priapic Jeffrey Epstein was apparently into both yoga and multiple orgasms a day, no doubt connected. Kundalini energy is also associated with the voice (chanting is one way to build it up) — and if you want to see this at work, just watch Michael Jackson (who was an extraordinary dancer, as well as singer) clutching his crotch. He may well have been feeling the characteristic intense burning sensation in the groin that accompanies kundalini energy.
Much as this disturbs me, I would still really like to hear John Podesta give an explanation of the “map” on his “pizza-related” black and white handkerchief, and what the hell was being talked about here. The storms about “fake news” erupted exactly with Pi**agate, this triggered the entire social media investigation of these issues. To this day, I’m scared to write Pi**agate in full.
The conspiracy is far vaster and more nefarious that even you think. The Swiss have figured out how to pack that Kundalini energy into special watches used by the military, which have the same effect. This man unveils one that the Air Force sent him by mistake, and that he has been keeping in a safe deposit box until now:
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Fuck your investigation.. all wrong info. You are not even worthy to eat Sai Baba who is the Lord of the Universe – his holy shit.
Happy to hear more on the topic of Nithyananda or Sai Baba. I love the video of him producing fake gold watches from up his sleeve.
Fake News. Pointing to other virtual fake stories and creating imaginary stories in the biased in their Brains.
Instead of spreading hate and fake, first get the first-hand experience of what is the real action happening.
Get actual facts one has to personally visit his Hospitals and Education institutions serving poor and needy with lot love.
We are one such beneficiary of such love and care. This where we have truly experienced Love All and Serve All.
Miracles these are there everywhere in nature. What are consciousness, feelings etc. How can we explain dreams.
What is the purpose of us being born ? Science and Logic can only partly answer such things.
Frank – can we get group rates on RVSP cruises?
With RVSP cruises you’ll have a Gay Old Time.
Shadow,
Very funny.
LMAO!
Shadow,
Also the last line of the beloved Flintstone theme song until PC culture took censored it as being offensive. Ironically until homosexual coopted the term it simply met “happy”. Then they decided the Flintstones song is “contemporarily” offensive now. Go figure.
NiceGuy, that’s probably an internet myth – or fake news.
A quick fact-check turns up as a likely source this piece, that is from a satirist blogger:
https://knowinglyundersold.com/2010/11/08/outrage-over-the-flintstones-gay-old-time/
If you read the comments, it’s obvious that some people recognized it as trolling, while others took it seriously – it was apparently not quite well enough crafted that everyone got the joke. Note that the blogger’s previous entry is titled “I Dated a Fugitive From a Chain Gang.”
It then appears in a few other entries where people treated it as if Cooper actually said it, and inaccurately posed it as then supposedly demonstrating something about “PC culture” or whatever.
What you’ve run across is an example of confirmation bias at work, where people will find narratives that confirm what they want to believe, even if actually false. It’s also one of the dangers not only of satire, but of other pranks like photographic “shooping” – fabrications can end up accepted and distributed, I’ve seen that happen first-hand.
AnonyMaker,
Next you will be telling me Pop-rocks and Coke won’t make my stomach explode…
See you next Monday. I’m protesting!
This is a great example demonstrating how gurus and their scams are a longstanding phenomenon in India. I think there they tend to take in less educated Indians because the well-informed know that this sort of thing is old hat, but then relatively well-educated Westerners fall for it as well because they see it as exotic and don’t have the background to understand it for what it is.
I also doubt there is really any “kundalini energy” phenomenon at work. It is said of figures like that, including to some extent Raniere, that they have a certain presence or charisma, but I think that is most likely due to mundane mechanisms like their ability to focus on people intensely (which can be a psychopathic characteristic), body language (NLP teaches “mirroring,” which some people do intuitively, for instance), use of techniques like covert or conversational hypnosis, and just exploiting the way that followers will tend to be enthralled with them – especially if the guru is supposed to be literally the incarnation of a god.
“Mirroring is the behavior in which one person unconsciously [or calculatedly] imitates the gesture, speech pattern, or attitude of another. Mirroring often occurs in social situations, particularly in the company of close friends or family. The concept often affects other individuals’ notions about the individual that is exhibiting mirroring behaviors, which can lead to the individual building rapport with others.
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Mirroring can establish rapport with the individual who is being mirrored, as the similarities in nonverbal gestures allow the individual to feel more connected with the person exhibiting the mirrored behavior.[3] As the two individuals in the situation display similar nonverbal gestures, they may believe that they share similar attitudes and ideas as well. Mirror neurons react to and cause these movements, allowing the individuals to feel a greater sense of engagement and belonging within the situation.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirroring_(psychology)
Mirroring is taught by Amway and other MLM scams.
Scott – The term “Mirroring” has been around forever in the psychology field and the term is in every introductory psychology text book.
Intelligent psychopaths excel at mirroring. See below:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-dark-side-of-mirroring-tactics-1476219571
Forever? That’s a long time.
You missed the point: How many people are taught to use it?
Scott-
“How many people are taught to use it?”
-Scott
….I believe the idea “to use “it” would occur to anyone with an above average IQ. It’s self-explanatory, how such knowledge could be used to manipulate others.
Why in God’s name to believe you posses arcane or sublime knowledge?
Do you happen live in a town populated by cretins?
Did you read the article? Maybe you should try educating yourself.
In my experience, very few people are aware of it, and of those, very few use it.
Why no one have guts speak about Jesus Christ who is biggest fraud in entire universe
I don’t put much credence in stories that someone told someone else.
Kobe Bryant dead in helicopter crash
Kobe Bryant, daughter Gianna among 9 dead in helicopter crash in Calabasas
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-01-26/aircraft-slams-into-hillside-explodes-in-flames-near-calabasas
Well, thank you, Walter Cronkite!
“And that’s the way it is.”
The Justice of Brazil sentenced this Monday, January 20, 2020 to 40 years in prison to the medium Joao Teixeira de Faria, known as Joao de Deus, for sexual crimes committed against five women during sessions in his spiritual center, in the second sentence he receives for the same type of crime. https://www.hemerosectas.org/miscelanea-509/
The darkest side of Nicolás Maduro’s regime and his strange bond with Sai Baba. As exotic as it may sound, in Venezuela Saibabism exists Since the 1970s, and it is estimated that it has about 200,000 followers. In 2011, when Sathya died (Maduro was already a Foreign Minister), the National Assembly decreed a day of mourning in Venezuela. Nothing was reported of allegations of sexual abuse and financial crimes that already overshadowed the fame of the “guru.” Within the ranks of Chavismo were other devotees who ended up weaving what is now “an invisible spy network and also inviolable, they built the most terrifying dungeons and direct the annihilation of opponents and dissident Chavez with total impunity.”
This swami looks like comedian Marty Allen’s ugly cousin.
Back in the sixties there was a comedian named Marty Allen who had crazy hair like the Swami’s.
Marty Allen:
https://tvguide1.cbsistatic.com/i/2018/02/13/7136b353-2406-4e3d-9de6-c1e618b0ee8b/18023-marty-allen.jpg
The Swami looks like Colin Kaepernick’s dad.