In the government’s opposition to Keith Raniere’s bail motion, some of his texts show a side of Raniere entirely absent from his bail motion.
In his bail motion, his attorneys paint a picture of a wonderful papa, a caring boyfriend who makes sure to be on hand at his baby mama’s birthday and mopes about the house of his significant other on the anniversary of her death.
In the government’s opposition to his bail – this wonderful man who mopes about his lost love or trying to please his new baby mama, was speaking in explicit language about his sexual desires for his slaves.
October 1, 2015, Raniere exchanged the following messages with a sexual partner who was a “first-line” DOS slave (As usual, my comments are in bold and brackets):
RANIERE: I think it would be good for you to own a fuck toy slave for me, that you could groom, and use as a tool, to pleasure me…
[DOS Slave]: huh?
[DOS Slave]: not disagreeing, just don’t understand
RANIERE: But your [sic] my wife…she isn’t…just a tool for you to use for me…
[DOS Slave]: a person?
RANIERE: Get a slave… you’re her master…
On October 9, 2015,
RANIERE: Without going into detail. It caused there to be other slaves, all who want to be branded with my monogram plus a number [on the brand] … your number is reserved… it is number 1. It is now a secret growing organization. I don’t know well some of the people involved but I command them ultimately. They are not who you might think. . . I think there are 10 or more in the current Jness 2 track…and others outside of it.
[DOS Slave]: Does that mean that they know about each other?
RANIERE: No.
* * *
[DOS Slave]: I’m ok with you having other slaves, I assume that these are not sexual
RANIERE: They may or may not be. They would be if I commanded but that is not the reason for the organization
* * *
RANIERE: It is an absolutely trusted commitment…
[DOS Slave]: I want to be the one that worships your body
RANIERE: Many will not even know of my existence…some don’t already….
Later that day, the defendant expressed concern that the DOS slave was “continuing to ask questions without comm[i]ting to feelings or an opinion”
October 10, 2015:
RANIERE: Find a life slave and I’ll tell you everything…
[DOS Slave]: What do you mean by life slave?
RANIERE: Someone who has a collateralized vow with you for life…
WhatsApp messages, sent between October 11, 2015 and October 16, 2015:
RANIERE: I feel badly each time you have to work hard for me to [orgasm]… I thought slaves could remove the burden…and I could get you fresh and not worn
* * *
RANIERE: What are your thoughts feelings?
RANIERE: All of them have slaves in process… some have several completed… [branded and life vow with full collateral]
[DOS Slave]: I feel insecure but at the same time I feel proud of you. You are worthy of following like that
RANIERE: So are you… you’re number one… [I bet you say that to all the slaves]
[DOS Slave]: I would be proud to stand next to you
RANIERE: Even naked with 6 other committed naked women?
* * *
[DOS Slave]: Are these slaves for you or for us? [good question]
RANIERE: There are two types. Both types are for us. One type is in the program: you are their Master I am their Grand Master . . . the other type are very select ones you use to heal us: likely being also of the first type…
[DOS Slave]: Ok. I’m asking because these persons will be in our life forever…. But I was not involved in the process of choosing who
[DOS Slave]: I’m afraid that I will not be comfortable with the others
RANIERE: You choose your slaves…
[DOS Slave]: What about the 7.
[DOS Slave]: ?
[DOS Slave]: Allison [Mack] said these 7 were forever. She and the others will be forever in my life…
RANIERE: They are first line to me but if any suit the purpose I obviously have access…
* * *
RANIERE: [H]aving one or two young slaves devoted to revving my body sexual to produce more energy would help. It would be there [sic] 24/7 job…
[Nice work if you can get it. Maybe he will find some in jail for the purpose.]
Who is this slave?
The government does not name the slave but it may be Clare Bronfman.
It might also be Rosa Laura Junco, Nicki Clyne, Monica Duran, Dani Padilla, Lauren Salzman, Loreta Garza, Jimena Garza, or any number of others. He always played the game with women – you are number one.
Frank Report will attempt to identify the woman utilizing our sources. If the woman has left the organization, she will not be identified. If she is still in she is fair game – for she may still be trying to recruit new slaves.
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Did he use Allison’s initials as a potential back up plan from the beginning? Thinking ahead to the day the brand hit the pubic I mean public!
That’s been my theory for awhile. He probably told her to add her initials for the “honor” when really it was to use her fame to smoke screen himself from the attention the story is getting. Also why out of his first generation of Dos women the one with the easiest name for your average person to recognize was his second.
All theory on my end of course.
Wonder if Raniere filed for a patent or TM on the brand? How could he not with his ego
There’s something so “Lady Chatterly’s Lover” or Barbara Cartland about the dialogue – I think it could be Clare. Her mother’s story certainly reads like the romantic heroine in any number of English novels recounting the journey of women from rags to riches, like Catherine Cookson, or even more likely Mills and Boon. “I want to be the one that worships your body” is that where the slave kneels before Raniere, praying really hard that he’ll hurry up and get the ‘anointing’ over with? Also the thing about him getting her ‘fresh’ not ‘worn’ we know he likes to gas light women over the age of 30? 25?
Keith Alan Raniere – that brand is, as he states, his monogram. Keith doesn’t share – but he’ll use the resemblance to Alison Mack’s initials to foist the blame elsewhere. What a prince!
That picture reminds me of “I’ll get you and your little dog too!”
Another interesting thing…
These messages were sent in 2015 (3 years ago) and Keith was already admitting that his flaccid dick was becoming a problem (e.g. his main woman had to strain herself just to get him off). LOL.
I’m guessing that 3 years later (today) he’s probably even more “flaccid” than he was back then.
In another 3 years he’ll probably have a permanently limp noodle that’s unfit for even tune up sessions (where he ejaculates his half limp
weiner on the woman’s tits). He’ll probably have to switch to eating pussy and nothing else, except maybe pizza.
My view of Keith:
Pathetic.
Pumpkin head.
Smelly body.
1970’s hairdo.
Flaccid dick.
Collapsing Slave pods.
Company in collapse.
Likely incarceration for many years.
Not Lauren, she would use NXIVM speak on Keith and “understand” Keith’s mission here. I am really going far out here but this person sounds like someone who is not high up sash wise definitely not the confidence of a green or even a yellow. I think it could be Marianna Fernandez maybe this is when Keith was pitching the idea of DOS to her to get her on board. Camilla would be the perfect fuck buddy under her for Keith (and I am pretty sure Camilla was being groomed for Keith ). The reason I say Marianna is this person clearly feels she is forever in Keith’s life and she is concerned about the slaves possibly being in both of theirs forever.
Bravo. Best response yet.
Good call about Lauren. You’re right.
If it were Lauren….she’d have not questioned him in the least.
In fact, just like you said, if probably isn’t any high level sash for that same reason (high level sashes would have kissed his ass more and understood every word he said).
But seeing how he called her #1 (and wife)…..she’d have to be dumber than dirt to actually believe that shit while also not being a high level sash. That should limit the number of possible idiots it could be.
Marianna seems like a good choice. What does Frank think?
It can’t be Allison Mack, since she is mentioned as a third person (assuming the conversation is with a single person).
Mariana Fernandez is reported to be Raniere’s live-in partner, along with Pam Cafritz until she died and Allison Mack replaced her. So Raniere referring to her as”wife” and “number 1” would make sense.
It would make the most sense if “the 7” who would always be part of their (Mariana and Raniere) lives were Allison and her 6 slaves, and Mariana were not a slave of Allison. Mariana would not necessarily know who Allison had enslaved, or the slaves of Allison’s slaves. And could be jealous that Allison was providing Raniere with competing sex partners.
Raniere is apologizing for how hard (Mariana?) has to work to get him to orgasm (it is reported that he is basically impotent now), and suggesting she recruit some hot young thin slaves to do it for her.
This reads like Allison had her 6 slaves, and they were recruiting slaves, but Mariana was not in the slave network. And that she found out some things about DOS and felt jealous / threatened. And Raniere is trying to talk her down, and subtly suggest that she become a slave-driver / pimp herself.
Very ethical.
Your my number one. But I smell like number two.
I feel so bad seeing you get all tired out from trying make me climax. Slaves will take this burden from you. I’m just thinking of what’s best for you honey. I’m doing this for you. And honey, even better if you groom me a sex toy.
And I thought I heard every slick bullshit line there ever was.
With all due respect to Frank, there’s no fucken way that Clare is a recruiter.
She’s just not involved in that type of lowly thing, Frank.
Keith also wouldn’t talk down to her like that. He’s respectful (calling her #1) but he’s talking down to her like a guy talking to a small puppy.
Clare’s wealth would give her a bit more status, hence her title “LEGATUS”. 🙂
Use some common sense people. Don’t let your hatred for Clare skew your ability to think rationally. It ain’t her. She ain’t gonna waste her time on lowly shit like that.
The person speaking to Keith in those messages wasn’t a billionaire. You can tell from the meek temperament shown. That gal was a lowly piece of shit. Probably Lauren, but could have been anybody……but NOT Clare Bear. 🙂
You’ve never had any involvement with NXIVM by your own admission, let alone met Clare.
Clare is a child. A wealthy, vindictive child, but nonetheless a child. It’s not like she earned a penny in her life. All she has ever done is lost $ that she got from her father.
She also only has like a 6th grade education.
He would absolutely talk to her like a puppy, because she is literally like one. She would gladly jump all over him licking his face if she would let her.
The only reason I question whether it might be her is whether he would take the chance messing up his gig by sleeping with her. Then again, I don’t think Raniere is actually smart enough to know not to shit where he eats, so maybe he did.
This situation in which Clare Bronfman participates is beyond explanation. Is she so desperate for a man that she is willing to be 1/50 that she throws tens of millions away on a total lunatic who tells her ridiculous stories? Why did her family not intervene to get her psychiatric help? Did her family not realize who mentally screwed up she is by serving this maniac? Is Clare not even capable of being embarassed?
I think Raniere started out as a replacement father figure for her father not being around most of her life. Her father threw money at her, but not time or attention.
What family? The only family she really has is Sara, who may be slightly less duped having had a family of her own and spending less time on the reservation. I’ve never heard much about their mother, at all. My understanding is she is an old-school stoic Brit, so I don’t think they had any affection from her growing up. Both of them have talked a lot about only having each other growing up.
The interesting thing about being so utterly convinced about one’s self-righteousness is that it is usually impenetrable. Look at society today. It is rampant.
Clare and Sara Bronfman’s mother is a former British au pair born with the name Rita Webb.
She is now married to a British actor named Nigel Havers and lives in the UK.
Here is a picture of Rita Webb Bronfman Havers with her current husband.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/05_01/Havers170507_468x584.jpg
Trivia for the Day – Nigel Havers was in Chariots of Fire he was also a philanderer http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1358659/Nigel-Havers-serial-infidelity-destroyed-marriage-finished-off.html –
Clare’s mom was renamed Georgiana by Edgar Bronfman Sr. They were married twice – Rita Webb Georgiana Bronfman Havers also had a longtime relationship with Richard Leakey which is why the girls (sara and Clare) spent a good part of their childhood in Africa.
The numbering of the brands sound like the Nazi concentration camp. It must be VanHitler’s past life coming back to haunt others.
The email / Wha’ts app posting could be a combo of his top LADIES, Lauren, Allsion, Rosa Laura, Clare all seem to be his top lieutenants
or is it lunatics
Van Chapo may not be getting out on bail so easily.
Sounds like some new charges (just to name a couple) may be Kidnapping, illegal detention, or some kind of false imprisonment. Also it seems that the Feds are wise to the phony lawsuits.
Don’t forget the numerous instances of blackmail.
Frank, great reporting as always.
That picture of Clare immediately makes me go soft. Highly unlikely that she had any chance of curing Crohn’s or Tourette’s, but I am fairly certain that picture of Clare could be used as a cure for sex offenders.
For every five times you run that picture of Clare, could you run a picture of Ludwika Paleta?
She always looks a bit like a siamese cat to me. Isn’t she rather cross-eyed?
The unnamed Slave could be Rosa Junco. In the recorded conversations, Emiliano is throwing a fit and trying to calm everyone down about Rosa’s involvement.
Who knows… could it be Nicki?
Probably not Nicki. From all reports her and Mack were close even before DOS and the alleged green card marriage. The slave pitch was probably from her and face to face.(Just a guess, I obviously have no real information. But Keith is a great manipulator if nothing else and Nicki strikes me as having a weakness for peer pressure.)
In the transcript above, I don’t get special status from whoever Raniere is talking to, which makes me think it’s not Clare.
I can’t find the FrankReport post and comment right now, but sometime in the past few months someone (ex-NXIVM) in the comments (I think the overall discussion was brainwashing) talked about how the brainwashing of the Bronfman sisters was different than for all the others.
They said that the mental cage Raniere kept them in was different, of a special status. Which makes sense, because he was controlling their wealth, and they had to be both controlled, but not feel controlled, and think of themselves as successful, ethical, special, and essential (NXIVM Commandment 11,in part: “it is essential for the survival of humankind for these things to be controlled by successful, ethical people.”).
Maybe her latest ethical breach is thinking that she is special because she has more money than anybody else.
I would argue, though, that saying the #1 spot has been saved for her does imply a degree of special-ness.
So he tells them all that they are number 1? Further proof that he had control over everything and everyone. If this slave is Clare, then I would actually feel a bit of sympathy. I highly doubtful anyone but him ever had a full picture of what was going on.
I am surprised that any woman would fall for Raniere’s line “You’re my Number One.”
A man with fifty or more women already in the harem with more women lined up in Allison Mack’s Jness pipeline would have a hard time designating a “Number One.”
Certainly Clare serving as Raniere’s Sugar Mama would be up near the top and Allison Mack being so obsequious would also be a candidate for Raniere’s Number One.
Since Mack is mentioned in the 3rd person in the cringe worthy dialogue, we know it can’t be her.
Reading this dialogue should be a wake up call for any woman still in the NXIVM cult.
RANIERE: So are you… you’re number one… [I bet you say that to all the slaves]
Frank, you made me spill my coffee! LOL
One must be as high as he can count
How dare you say that about the smartest man on earth? He can probably count until 2.26…