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Guest View: Be Prepared for the Inevitable: Raniere Will Get a New Trial!

09/27/2021  |  Guest View
Guest View: Be Prepared for the Inevitable: Raniere Will Get a New Trial!
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Frank Report likes to publish opposing views. Here is one decidedly opposed to what most readers think.  It appeared originally as a comment, but it stands well as a post.  Of course the question looms — if the FBI really did plant the photos, where did they get them from? Obviously, the writer of this comment has chosen anonymity for his or her own safety and privacy. 

Male silhouette calling on the phoneThe following is written by someone who chose not to identify him or herself.

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I think there is no question Keith Raniere will eventually get a new trial. The photos were planted. That’s all there is to it.

The Government almost got away with this, but now they’re caught. This whole case is going to blow up and it’s going to be a shit show for years to come. Judge Nicholas Garaufis will deny all the motions but the Second Circuit will not. This will be a bigger story than Keith’s trial and DOS. God knows the can of worms this will open up for the EDNY.

Judge Nicholas GaraufisJudge Nicholas Garaufis

Judge Nicholas Garaufis presided over the trial of Keith Raniere. Were he and the jury deceived by the admission of planted evidence?

For victims of NXIVM reading this, prepare for the worst. The government blew this. It was a stupid, stupid move but not hard to imagine their rationale. Reckless Cowboy Justice. Prior to the “discovery” of the Cami pictures in March 2019, the prosecution was facing five co-defendants along with Keith, each with 2-3 top level attorneys on their teams. All saying “not guilty”.

Camila by MK10ARTCamila by MK10ART

MK10ART’s painting of Camila. Twenty-two pictures of Camila were found on a hard drive 11 months after it was seized by the FBI from Raniere’s library, just on the eve of trial.

Imagine a trial without Lauren’s testimony?

Laruen Salzman became a key cooperating witness after she learned the government claimed to have found child porn pictures of Camila.Laruen Salzman became a key cooperating witness after she learned the government claimed to have found child porn pictures of Camila.

Lauren Salzman became a key cooperating witness after she learned the government found child porn pictures of Camila.

Or worse, Lauren saying DOS was voluntary adult consensual relationships and Daniela’s confinement was voluntary and supervised by her parents?

A trial with no tapes produced by Allison and Allison also saying DOS was voluntary, personal growth?

Allison Mack leaving courtAllison Mack leaving court

Allison Mack took a plea deal, she said, after learning the government discovered child porn pictures on a hard drive. She first tried to sever her trial from that of Keith Raniere, but when that was denied, she took the deal.

Nancy saying she had no idea editing discovery in a civil case (Ross) was illegal?

Plus the Government facing five teams of attorneys backing Keith? Each with a chance to cross-examine each witness and each putting on a defense?

They all would have been acquitted.

The six NXIVM defendants, Upper Row: Kathy Russell, Keith Raniere, Nancy Salzman, LowerAllison Mack, Lauren Salzman, Clare BronfmanThe six NXIVM defendants, Upper Row: Kathy Russell, Keith Raniere, Nancy Salzman, LowerAllison Mack, Lauren Salzman, Clare Bronfman

The six NXIVM defendants, Upper Row: Kathy Russell, Keith Raniere, Nancy Salzman, LowerAllison Mack, Lauren Salzman, Clare Bronfman. They all took plea deals, except Raniere, within weeks of the government announcing they found child porn on Raniere’s computer, just prior to trial.

All the evidence of Keith’s sexual relationship with Cami was Daniela saying “Keith told me he had sex with Cami when she was underage,” (total hearsay) and a text message from Keith to Cami saying, “we’ve been ‘married’ for 8.75 years” dating their relationship to fall 2005.

But explainable in terms of reasonable doubt.

I can think of a dozen stories Keith could have made up to explain away that text which without the pictures would have been hard to dispute. Cami having an abortion at 20 means nothing. Her telling a nurse she had “been with” her partner for five years is tenuous at best. None of this means Keith didn’t abuse Cami at 15.

THEY JUST COULDN’T PROVE IT.

That’s where the prosecution’s case was at in March 2019. Shockingly weak. Then the pictures of Cami were “found” and all the co-defendants plead guilty, one by one. Game over for Keith and the Government has an enormous victory broadcast internationally. One big illusion shattered then another. The illusion that NXIVM was about personal growth, to the illusion that the Department of Justice acts within the constraints of the law.

So be it.

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Comments (45)

  • AnthonySeptember 27, 2021
    I completely agree with this. The government really screwed this up. And all of Keith enemies must be shaking right now. This story is about to be turned 180. Can't wait to see what the outcome of all this.
    • AnonymousSeptember 27, 2021
      Anthony is back!!!!! A dead-ender crawls out of the woodwork.

      Have you asked the two lawyers in your office about the case lately?
      • Just Sayin'September 27, 2021
        Were the “2 lawyers” supposed to be Suneel and Linda Chung??? Please say yes!!! Lmao
    • Keith Raniere is not worth hatingSeptember 27, 2021
      Keith has victims.

      “Enemies” is way, way too grandiose.

      Keith Raniere is just a nasty garden variety pedophile, rapist and child pornographer.

      A misogynist clown and a tubby joke.

      More than one victim statement mentioned how he would eventually just be forgotten.

      And that is the truth.

      No one risked their career to frame Albany's biggest dum dum pervert.

      Hilarious!
  • RuvianaSeptember 27, 2021
    Off topic but perhaps relevant, R. Kelly has been found guilty for a scheme amazingly similar to Raniere.
    • AnonymousSeptember 28, 2021
      It is quite alarming.
  • RuvianaSeptember 27, 2021
    Not to belabor the R. Kelly verdict but he was convicted of racketeering. This was a Federal case brought in the EDNY for all you conspiracy theorists out there. 🙂
  • The Buns of Marty's WrathSeptember 27, 2021
    Have Alazno or Raniere ever met a baby they didn't want to rape as some kind of sick and twisted exercise in supposed “spiritual growth”?

    I don't think so.

    The bitter-ender writer of this post will be happy to hold anyone or anything down while Alanzo & Keith do their business.

    Such a bunch of sick and twisted culties.
    • Nice GuySeptember 27, 2021
      Marty-

      “Have Alazno or Raniere ever met a baby they didn’t want to rape..”

      Alanzo is to infatuated with Suneel. Suneel hasn’t posted a comment that Alanzo hasn’t fawned and lavished praise over. Alanzo sounds like a dude sweating a woman or in this case a wo-man.

      Perhaps Alanzo, should take a “amazing” car ride with Eduardo, Emiliano, or Betancourt. Can you say rub-a-dub-dub?

      “Sometimes a car ride is more than a car ride, it’s a journey of the heart.”-Eduardo
  • LMAOSeptember 27, 2021
    There was never a delusion that was so fantastical a cult dead-ender couldn't believe.
  • Twice as a bad the 2nd time aroundSeptember 27, 2021
    IF Keith gets a new trial he will get to see Cami on the witness stand. Testifying under oath every filthy detail of what Keith did to her as a child. How she was given an abortion. Keith having sex with her sisters and impregnating them too. Every tiny sordid detail of Cami's prolonged rape, abuse and torture as a child for years at Keith's hands..

    How is that a win for Vanguard again?
  • Boo, It's almost Halloween 🎃September 27, 2021
    Bahahahahahaha

    I'm shaking in my boots

    R Kelly was falsely found guilty also by the same group of clowns

    What idiot wrote this article
  • AnonymousSeptember 27, 2021
    Where the hell are Natashka and Shivani?
    • NatashkaSeptember 28, 2021
      Hi there! I am alive and went on a commenting break! I didn't realise Shivani was MIA too.
      • Nice GuySeptember 29, 2021
        I’m glad you and Shivani are still around!

        I hope all is well with you both!
      • NutjobSeptember 29, 2021
        Hi, Natashka. Don't ever do that again to us!
    • ShivaniSeptember 28, 2021
      Reading about or paying attention to chickens and their eggs never has attracted me. Neither does any variety of egg salad interest me at all, regardless of its ingredients or presentations. There's no reason for me to debate about chickens or their eggs. The nervousness and the noisy scurrying about of chickens can be discussed by those who are chicken experts.
      • LSeptember 28, 2021
        I'm no expert, but I believe you just diced and fried that poultry to perfection. I enjoyed that immensely.
        • AnonymousSeptember 28, 2021
          Can I just put in a word for the mayonnaise? Yummy.
      • AnonymousSeptember 29, 2021
        Deviled eggs…..

        Suck
      • NutjobSeptember 29, 2021
        Totally agree, Shivani. On the newest article, there is a cow who posted as a chicken expert, and the cow seems to make sense.
        • ShivaniSeptember 29, 2021
          Cows are good listeners and make eye contact very well, but nobody can be certain whether or not a cow knows what the heck anybody is saying, except when one of their calves moos.

          Claviger is the voice of reason (to me, anyhow) and of common sense about the ins and outs of legalese, and what it is that can float versus what will sink.

          I see no occasion to get into a dither about Raniere's and/or his acolytes' odds or chances of any success via appeals.

          It seems a bit too late even to go after “ineffective counsel” at this point. Many months ago, and well prior to Raniere's sentencing, maybe this tactic could've stood some ground.

          Speaking of dithers, Mr. Dithers was Dagwood Bumstead's comic strip boss. This led the disenfranchised and frustrated Dagwood to resort to eating club sandwiches in the bathtub quite often.

          Word salad indigestion due to a cotillion of undercooked eggheads is no match for the ever-alert Clav.
          • K.R. ClavigerSeptember 30, 2021
            '”Ineffective counsel” is usually the last resort that incarcerated felons turn to in an effort to overturn their convictions – and those appeals are usually done on a pro se basis. What's unusual about Keith's case is that he will have top-flight attorneys handling this particular appeal – which will make it seem more likely that it will succeed. But given the quality of his team of trial attorneys, I think there is zero chance of this appeal winning.
          • Retired appellate attorneyOctober 1, 2021
            I agree with KR's 7:14 p.m. post on this one. Plus, none of these naysayers have offered up a legal theory or standard of review to back up their arguments. FYI, if the standard of review is abuse of discretion, KAR doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell at overturning his conviction.
  • B*tch PleaseSeptember 27, 2021
    He’s never getting a new trial over this nonsense so don’t hold your breath
  • ErasendSeptember 28, 2021
    Sigh. Wonder which DOSer this silliness came from.

    Still, their confidence does concern me some what because they are not remotely worried about the one thing they should be – Camilla testifying. Do they know something we don't that they think will either prevent her from testifying or cause her to testify on Keith's behalf?
    • AnonymousSeptember 28, 2021
      It wasn’t written by someone in DOS unless they have changed their entrance requirements to allow Alanzo to join.

      But Raniere isn't into fat-asses, so no DOS membership for Alanzo, even if Alanzo doesn’t have a gag reflex.
  • AnonymousSeptember 28, 2021
    If those motherf*ckers blew this case because they planted evidence instead of doing their f*cking jobs correctly, I'm going to be mad as hell.
  • SnorlaxSeptember 28, 2021
    I think this is a valid, well reasoned and legally sound argument. And I think that it will definitely come to pass just after OJ finds the real killer.
    • Nice GuySeptember 28, 2021
      Snorlax!

      You’ve done it again!

      It’s been a while!

      Absolutely brilliant!

      Comedy gold!

      ROFLMFAO!!!!

      I needed a good laugh!

      Thanks!
  • AnonymousSeptember 28, 2021
    Rock and Roll is Dead!

    And, I don't care!

    Parlato is dead!

    And, I don't care!

    Raniere is dead!

    And, I don't care!

    Rock and Roll is Dead!

    And, I don't care!
  • AnonymousSeptember 28, 2021
    KR is the not the first convicted felon to request a new trial on the grounds that he was framed, and claiming that he could prove it. It is certainly possible that he can prove his accusations, but I would not bet on it.
  • AnonymousSeptember 28, 2021
    Got a Jail Ankle Bracelet Monitor?

    No problem!

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CE5vGzxhey2/?utm_medium=copy_link
  • AnonymousSeptember 28, 2021
    Imagine “A trial with no tapes produced by Allison”, a trial with no testimony by Lauren S., a retrial with no testimony by Camila … Right. A narcissist has a wonderful way of ignoring inconvenient facts. “The photos were planted – that's all there is to it” (and it so because I think it is so, and I say so, and if you doubt me, I will hold my breath until I'm blue in the face. But evidence? Who needs evidence?) KR may get a retrial – or he may not. Will the retrial lead to a different outcome? I kinda doubt Lauren is going to go back on her testimony and risk jeopardising her more than lenient sentence, and say: Your honour, I lied under oath last time. Maybe the prosecution can also bring a supplementary charge of rape of a minor, now that C. is ready to testify. This piece reads like a very subtle 'threat' to the 'victims' of Nxivm: 'Prepare for the worse; KR will win and come after you'… sorry, KR has well and truly been defanged. All that's left for him to keep up the facade is to play 'victim'. The heydays of 'Vanguard' are over.
  • Aristotle’s SausageSeptember 28, 2021
    Another “provocative” piece that provokes only laughter.
  • shadowstate1958September 28, 2021
    There is a legal doctrine called “The Fruit of the Poisonous Tree”.

    There is no doubt that the alleged discovery of nude photos of Cami flipped the case for the prosecution.

    Whether it would exclude the testimony of all the defendants is an open question.

    Fruit of the Poisonous Tree

    A doctrine that extends the exclusionary rule to make evidence inadmissible in court if it was derived from evidence that was illegally obtained. As the metaphor suggests, if the evidential “tree” is tainted, so is its “fruit.” The doctrine was established in 1920 by the decision in Silverthorne Lumber Co. v. United States, and the phrase “fruit of the poisonous tree” was coined by Justice Frankfurter in his 1939 opinion in Nardone v. United States.

    Like the exclusionary rule itself, this doctrine is subject to three important exceptions. The evidence will not be excluded:

    if it was discovered from a source independent of the illegal activity;

    its discovery was inevitable;

    or if there is attenuation between the illegal activity and the discovery of the evidence.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fruit_of_the_poisonous_tree

    Nicki Clyne knows of the Fruit of the Poisonous Tree doctrine and presumably she has heard of it from Raniere's legal team.

    Nicki has mentioned the doctrine on her Twitter page.
    • K.R. ClavigerSeptember 28, 2021
      Shadow: I suggest you stick with reposting things from right-wing websites because those are things you understand. Your total lack of comprehension as to why the “fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine” is inapplicable in this case is matched only by Nicki Clyne.
      • shadowstate1958September 29, 2021
        Claviger:

        Tell us why Biden and the Department of Homeland Stupidity want to fire unvaxxed Border Patrol Agents when they allow unvaxxed illegal aliens into America.

        House Judiciary GOP: Biden ‘Threatening To Terminate’ Major Portion Of Border Patrol Agents If Not Vaccinated

        The House Judiciary GOP claimed on Tuesday evening that a whistleblower has come forward and alleged that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has notified U.S. Border Patrol agents that they will be terminated if they do not receive the coronavirus vaccine.

        The House Judiciary GOP said in a tweet, “Whistleblower alleges that Border Patrol agents have been given official notice that they must be fully vaccinated by November 2021 or face termination.”

        https://www.dailywire.com/news/house-judiciary-gop-biden-threatening-to-terminate-major-portion-of-border-patrol-agents-if-not-vaccinated
      • aginghipsterSeptember 30, 2021
        B O O M !

        Long before I even scrolled down…I knew KR had this.

        Your opinion is very informed and valid. To me and to us.

        Thanks
    • AnonymousSeptember 29, 2021
      Hi, again, Shadow!

      I’ve got some very ripe and very poisonous fruit on my tree. You wanna pick some fruit or hug my big trunk? Maple-syrup season is cOmIng…I bet you’d like syrup on your pancakes. Mmh!
      • shadowstate1958September 29, 2021
        Save your pornographic writings for the magazine “San Francisco Erotica.”
        • AnonymousSeptember 29, 2021
          Is Shadow gay and closeted?

          Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
        • AnonymousSeptember 30, 2021
          Shadow-

          I have never heard of the store

          “San Francisco Erotica”, until now.

          Pray-tell, how did you ever hear, about such a sinful shop, my dear Shadow?

          America is such a vast land and you picked out a, obscure, gay-boutique-pornshop.

          Have you ever visited the ‘back alley’ — of San Francisco Erotica?

          https://g.co/kgs/WrqAev

          Per chance, do you own leather-chaps, cutoff jean shorts, pjs with the bottoms cutout?
  • AnonymousSeptember 30, 2021
    Imagine if federal courts could enter decisions based on nothing more than “that's all there is to it.” Whee!
  • Don't threaten me with a good time!September 30, 2021
    I wouldn't mind watching Keith Raniere get convicted again on Clare Bronfman's dime.

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