The FBI arrested Keith Raniere in Dallas, Texas, on March 26, 2018. The Federal Bureau of Prisons [BOP] transferred him to Oklahoma Federal Transfer Center. From there, he moved to the Brooklyn Metropolitan Detention Center (MDC). He arrived at MDC on April 10, 2018.
He remained at MDC while awaiting trial which began on May 7, 2019. A jury convicted him six weeks later – on June 19, 2019. It would be another year and four months before Judge Nicholas G. Garaufis sentenced him – on October 27, 2020.
During the summer of 2020, while Raniere awaited sentencing, his supporters came to MDC to dance. They called themselves The Forgotten Ones. At best, they were a dozen. They danced to protest his conviction. They danced nightly between 8 and 9 pm during July. Then shifted to once weekly on Friday nights in August.
Their protest attracted media attention. Most of it slanted as these brainwashed followers are dancing fools.
A Nxivm camera focused on a cell as a man watched the dancers below.
The Forgotten OnesInstagram stated: “We have brought dance, levity + light outside MDC for inmates + their families, and we continue to provide support for those society has forgotten.” At their peak, they had 900 followers.
The dancers cavorted, gyrated, romped and frolicked. They titillated inmates who watched from above. The inmates would bang on the bars to show appreciation.
The BOP determined who was behind the dancing. They moved Raniere to the back of MDC where he could no longer see them.
After they moved him to the back, there was but a narrow space between the MDC and an Amazon warehouse to dance.
The dancing was constricted, much like the Vanguard.
Raniere attracted the attention of the Counter Terrorism Unit [CTU] of the BOP. All prison calls are recorded and can be reviewed at any time.
The CTU reviewed Raniere’s phone calls and emails.
CTU Intelligence Analyst H. Boussag wrote a memorandum to Senior Intelligence Analyst J. Simmons. The topic –Suneel Chakravorty – and Keith Raniere. SIA Simmons reviewed the memo and sent it to CIU Chief Guy Pagli, in Martinsburg, WV. CIU Chief Pagli approved the intel on it – and sent the memo to the warden of MDC – Heriberto Tellez.
Their recommendation: Don’t let Raniere talk to Suneel.
This memorandum is submitted to request approval for removing one of inmate Raniere, Keith, Reg. No. 570055-177, contacts… Namely, Suneel Chakravorty.
During this review of phone and emails, CTU Staff found numerous occasions where this individual, under the direction of inmate Raniere, has violated BOP policies and procedures….. the above mentioned individual has helped inmate Raniere record podcasts for interviews he is pursuing to use in HBO, Netflix and Showtime.
On a call placed by Raniere to Suneel … on Friday, May 8, 2020… Raniere knowingly began to record a podcast, the narrative of which was “How much legal experience a judge has?”
On another call… on Monday, July 13, 2020… Raniere inquired as to how many podcasts they have recorded… Suneel indicated they have recorded… about 50 podcasts….
Raniere orchestrated through this individual for a group of women to show up regularly and dance provocatively for inmates to view through their cell windows. … on July 12, 2020, Raniere and Suneel discussed the success of the women dancing in front of the prison. Suneel added the inmates were “banging on their windows and making a beat.” Expectedly, Raniere gloated and hoped this movement keeps growing and more women get involved….
On Friday, July 03, 2020… Raniere thanked Suneel for coming by and for bringing Eduardo and Nicki to see him and inquired about whether they read the messages [Raniere] was writing on the light fixture for them….
On Tuesday, July 06, 2020, Raniere authored an electronic correspondence to…. Marianna Fernandez. In the email, Raniere talked about …the women dancing erotically to the delight of other inmates….
“My dearest love! I have another idea that seems to be evolving into something good: for the past few nights people like Suneel, Eduardo, Nicki, and Danielle, have been coming to stand outside of my window to “visit”. It evolved to the women dancing, and the whole side of the building appreciating it.”
Additionally… Raniere discussed his future plans for… “The forgotten ones,” essentially, more women… scantily dressed dancing in front of the prison….
“The forgotten ones” to bring in other dancers etc., interface with the local radio stations to bring in other dancers etc., with the local radio stations to bring together, community, inmates and talent. It can quite nicely grown to encompass licensing, finding new artists etc…”
CTU staff… requested inmate Raniere be moved to another unit…. on a telephone call placed by inmate Raniere to [Suneel] on July 11, 2020, Inmate Raniere espoused his disdain for being moved to another unit after he had organized for the women to come out and dance in front of the facility. Additionally, he begins to tell Suneel about the staff work schedules and indicated his protesters should wait outside for the staff and offer donuts and coffee as they exit the facility…. Raniere advised Suneel the protesters should befriend the staff … stating “we are all in this together.” The staff and the inmates. Suneel indicated the protesters had made offerings to the staff and all of their efforts were declined.
Inmate Raniere’s manipulative behavior continues to manifest from behind the prison through the help of Suneel Chakravorty. Inmate Raniere’s actions would place the safety and security of staff and the public at risk.
BOP may prohibit inmates from communicating… when it is found the communication would jeopardize the safety, security or orderly operation of a facility or would jeopardize the protection of the public or staff.
Sensitive But Unclassified
Warden Tellez cut off Suneel and Raniere’s phone calls.
To some, the dancing seemed ominous. Suppose Raniere’s followers grew from an average of six to 100s of scantily clad protestors seductively offering donuts. Perhaps the MDC would gain unwanted attention. Raniere might create a revolutionary, anti-incarceration culture that garners mass popular support. A shift from mass incarceration policies would follow. A more noble society would foment. They prison officials would all be out of a job.
It could be poetic. Imagine there’s no prisons. No one to incarcerate or take someone to trial for. And no laws too. Imagine all the people because of a few MDC dancers, under their Vanguard, spreading love here, there, and everywhere.
Imagine all the people sharing donuts and coffee. You may say Raniere is a dreamer, but he’s not the only one. The Forgotten Ones hope someday you will join them.
The grandmaster taught the world to dance in perfect harmony—a Kumbaya of the highest proportions.
Lamentably, none of that happened. We still have the same sorry world. Incarceration rates are high. Guards and prisoners are not friends, and donuts go uneaten. The Forgotten Ones just couldn’t get people behind it. It’s hard to get people behind a guy who branded women with his initials.
Still, the dancers meant no harm. They were not going to storm the prison and try to jail break Raniere. Or force feed donuts to guards.
But the BOP cut off Raniere and Suneel.
A Fact Not Mentioned
There was something going on behind the scenes. Something not captured in the CTU memorandum. The CTU listened to many calls. They choose to highlight three of four.
Most of Suneel and Raniere’s calls were not about donuts and skimpily clothed dancers. Their calls were about the FBI. The two men claimed the FBI adjusted metadata on a hard drive where child porn was found, and a camera card from a camera that allegedly took the photos.
By evaluating data spreadsheets, Raniere and Suneel discovered anomalies. Some metadata did not make sense.
The CTU listened to them discussing things that directly involved FBI agents – the federal agency they work closely with on investigations conducted inside and outside prison walls.
Podcasts, donuts, coffee, half-naked dancing protestors were certainly an object of grave concern to CTU. But the two men were naming FBI agents they knew. They talked about things IT guys might understand.
If the CTU were cautious about skinny dancers and podcasts getting aired on HBO from a man everyone despised, is it possible that the CTU was concerned about two men talking about the FBI?
Conversations Not Mentioned
I reviewed audios and transcripts of some of the MDC prison calls – up until the time Raniere and Suneel were cut off. They show two men interested in trying to answer technical questions. I was struck by one.
How solid is the evidence that the Canon camera took the contraband pictures of Camila that were used to convict Raniere of his most grotesque racketeering acts?
The metadata used as evidence at his trial proved Raniere was the photographer – it was his camera – and the photos were taken in 2005 when Camila was 15.
Here was a riddle. The Canon camera took the photos in 2005 according to one set of metadata – EXIF data. But another set of metadata for the same images show the photos were backed up to a Dell computer in 2003. How did that happen? Canon manufactured the specific camera in 2004. The camera did not take photos before it was manufactured. The computer could not have backed up photos that would not be taken for another two years.
The metadata contradicted itself.
This was explained by a patent lie told at the trial by an FBI forensic examiner — that EXIF data is hard to change. Either it was a lie, or the man is incompetent. But he is a senior forensic examiner.
The FBI’s expert, Senior Forensic Examiner Brian Booth, testified about EXIF data. EXIF data is information embedded into a photograph file. Booth swore it is extremely reliable, because it is “very hard” to change.
He said it again and again. His testimony is a peon of praise for the impenetrability of EXIF Data.
He swore that EXIF data “time and date information… are very hard… to modify… it’s not easily modifiable… they … keep you from changing dates and times. It’s not easy to change those. You have to go through special processes to change” EXIF Data.
It’s an absolute lie.
Booth said, “unless you wind up getting software that’s just developed to do that” EXIF Data is “very hard to modify.”
A person does not need special software. One can use built-in features in Windows to modify EXIF data. Or one of many free tools online to modify EXIF data. They are not special at all. They are free to anyone. Modifying EXIF data requires no “software” or “special processes,” as Booth claimed. Nor is it “very hard” to modify, as he claimed.
Yes, Raniere is a rat. But why did the FBI lie about EXIF data?
This is what started the long road of tampering investigation. Suneel caught it. Senior Forensic Examiner Booth made false statements under oath. He knew when he heard him at trial that a quick Google search will find free, simple-to-use tools for editing EXIF data.
Why would the FBI’s digital forensic examiner swear that EXIF data cannot be easily modified? Why would he make such statements so many times? Did the prosecution falsely believe EXIF data could not be easily modified?
The EXIF Data supported that the photos on the drive were of an underage person. Other metadata contradicted the EXIF Data. That called all the forensic data into question.
What if the prosecution had told the truth? That EXIF data can be easily modified. One does not need special skills or tools? This is what got Suneel curious. It made this writer curious too.
An example was the midnight maple.
The FBI found the Camila child porn in a sub-folder on the hard drive. The folder was named “Studies”. Inside the first sub-folder was the photo of a maple tree. It was the very first photo in the entire file. There were 168 photos in the Studies folder. A maple tree -and 167 nude photos of 12 females . Twenty-two of these were Camila at age 15, according to the metadata.
But let’s go back to the first photo in this all-important folder. The photo [below] looks like one of numerous maple trees in the area around 8 Hale where the hard drive was seized.
A maple tree at midnight?
The current Rule 33 motion included a maple tree photo in an appendix. It is the only non-nude photo of the 168 pictures in the folder.
The EXIF Date/Time of this maple tree image shows the photo taken at 12:20 am. Yet it is a daytime photo. The EXIF data shows the camera had a low ISO setting – meaning no lens setting to brighten the darkness. The ISO setting is a daylight setting. The metadata of the photo shows no modifications, like lightening the image with a filter. It’s clear as daylight.
The photo of the maple tree was not taken at midnight. This demonstrates that the EXIF data was not as reliable as the FBI testified.
Sure, one can argue it may be off by only 9-17 hours. The camera clock is wrong by a few hours, that’s all.
But the EXIF Date/Time is false.
How do we know to what extent? Is it hours, days, months, years?
The maple tree is the only non-nude photo. It is the only photo of the 168 taken outdoors. The only picture where one can judge if the hour is wrong. And the EXIF Date/Time is wrong.
That does not mean anything more than EXIF Data is not reliable. It is not proof by itself.
Suneel and Raniere discussed this and other topics in recorded conversations at MDC. Here are a few snippets of conversations between them. Discussions the CTU did not choose to report in their memorandum.
Raniere: There are pictures of that backup that were never backed up as pictures… like a tree…
This seems so outlandish, so tampered with.”
Raniere: Someone’s trying to put the files on the computer and… maybe even change stuff on the SD [camera] card…
When I was at the trial, to me, it looked like stuff was put on the hard drive. There are things that I can’t imagine would have been on that hard drive… and it just seemed wrong. I think they got a whole load of data from somewhere else and tried to foist that upon the computer and foisted that upon the SD drive… maybe even taking out one set of pictures and substituting them with others.
Raniere: It’s hard to imagine that there’d be a theory of non-tampering that explains the data.
Suneel: Yeah, I agree.
Raniere: It’s so easy to get lost in the details of all the inconsistencies. But [it is] only explained… by someone going in there and tampering…. to digest all the details is good. But I think what’s going to end up happening is we’re going to find out this date plus this day plus this and that. I mean, it must be tampering.
Keith: Paul [Derohanassian] told me the old expert really tried and couldn’t recreate things… in any natural way. And of course, because it’s not natural… That means this was tampered.
By July, they found an inconsistency that they could not easily explain by anything other than someone manually adjusting the metadata.
Suneel determined a person cannot program the camera clock on the Canon to adjust for Daylight Savings time automatically.
Keith: Could the camera possibly have any way of knowing [when daylight time ends]?
Suneel: The Date/Time is literallyjust the date and the time. And there’s no GPS [to adjust for time zones].
Raniere: Why would someone even worry about Daylight Savings Time with a camera that’s [supposedly] 17 hours off?… I’m taking a picture of a tree at midnight, and it’s in the middle of the day or in the morning. And I’m worrying about a one-hour shift?…
I’m surprised about the depth of forgery, the depth of tampering. So, someone sat there and looked at the data and thought they would be clever and put in Daylight Savings Time.
They spoke about differences between EXIF Data Datetime and the Modified Data Date/Time. There were pictures in the studies folder on the hard drive where the metadata did not make sense.
There is an inconsistent relationship between them. The camera generates Date/Times upon the creation of photographs. The Date/Time is the year, month, day, hour, minute, and second – based on the camera’s clock. The camera embeds the EXIF Date/Time into the JPG file.
The Canon camera uses a camera card to transfer photos to a computer. The EXIF Date/Time does not change when someone downloads a photo from the camera card to a computer. The Modified Date/Time represents the last time the file or folder was updated.
Did someone make a deliberate effort to alter Modified Date/Time on the files? The reason? So, they could mimic Daylight Saving Time and its ending on October 30,2005. We don’t know.
From IMG_43 to IMG_126, the Modified Date/Times are an hour behind the EXIF Date/Times.
This could be the computer adjusting for Daylight Savings Time.
But on October 30, 2005, something strange happens.
Starting with IMG_ 127. From 127- to 137, the Modified Date/Times become two hours behind the EXIF Date/Times. Then on the same day, it moves forward instead of falling back.
Starting with 138, the Modified Date/Times are the same as the EXIF Date/Times. The two-hour photos IMG_0127-137 are part of a single folder. It contains photographs of Mariana and Pam together. Two women – two hours. Sounds legit.
Or someone got mixed up on which way to set the Modified DateT/imes and went the wrong way – by an hour. Then they corrected it with the next set of photos – starting with Barbara Jeske.
Could a computer do this without someone doing the alterations by hand? What outside of human intervention could account for this anomaly? Why would someone make these odd changes?
The FBI never found Raniere’s computer. They found the hard drive. They said the missing computer backed up the photos to the hard drive.
One hour might be explainable. But what explains the two-hour difference? The FBI’s premise is that the photos in the studies folder were never altered. They are exactly the metadata that the camera and the computer embedded in the images.
Yet images’ metadata don’t comport with anything that computers do without human fingers making willful alterations.
There were two models in the photos that have the two-hour difference between the EXIF and Modified. Before that there was one model and a one-hour difference. Could Suneel find out if the camera clock adjusts time based on the number of models in a picture?
In the background of this discussion of FBI tampering was dancing. And donuts. HBO and podcasts. And a CTU investigation.
In a future post, we will discuss Raniere’s application for a new phone contact – for a one Isaac Edward. And how Suneel and Raniere continued to examine the metadata and what they found.
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Suneel lied about his identity.
When is Suneel going to address it?
The FBI may have planted the kiddie porn on Raniere’s hard drive.
Raniere’s cell mate may use him as a prison bride.
His cell mate may use lube.
Allison Mack may be a prison bride.
Nicki Clyne may win an Oscar one day.
Suneel may not have been born on planet Earth.
Danielle Roberts may get her medical license back.
The Jews may be behind it all.
Is it possible to change and reset the camera’s time setting, even once set, before taking new photos? The previous photo shots keep their time stamp in the Exif files, but when taking new shots, you can change the camera’s setting beforehand and take photo shots with the newly set time and date. This is not a contradiction.
So KR was using Suneel to run NXVIM from jail.
I know this back n forth stuff with experts, but isn’t this easily resolved by calling the underage victim to the stand and having her verify it is her? “And how old were you when these pictures were taken?”
Yes. Camila should identify the photos.
Keith should hang himself.
Suneel, Eduardo, Marc and the SOP members should all castrate themselves
Nicki should go back to Canada.
Exactly. And could you please identify the person who took this pictures of you?
Bye bye Keith……….
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One year ago: [ … ] TV actor Allison Mack was sentenced to three years in prison for manipulating women into becoming sex slaves for the spiritual leader of the cult-like group NXIVM (NEHK’-see-um).
Feds say Raniere, confidant spoke of ‘war’ with government
Robert Gavin, June 20, 2022, Updated: June 20, 2022 1:28 p.m.
In a jailhouse conversation last month, NXIVM leader Keith Raniere and a purported legal advisor spoke of being “at war” with the federal government and called for a “no holds barred” approach, according to recently filed court papers.
Federal prosecutors in Arizona highlighted the conversation between the man known within the group as “Vanguard” and associate Suneel Chakravorty in a voluminous response to Raniere’s lawsuit filed in May against his Tucson federal prison and the U.S. Department of Justice, which operates the Bureau of Prisons. Raniere, a former Halfmoon personal growth guru widely viewed as a cult leader, is serving a sentence of 120 years for sex trafficking, forced labor conspiracy, wire fraud conspiracy and racketeering charges that included extortion, identity theft and possession of child pornography.
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No need to read this 2367th verse of 10,000 Bottles of Beer on the Wall.
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Frank can you please clarify why and how Vanguard was defacing government property to leave messages for his cult followers? What is that weird stuff about the light fixture and messages?
They communicated back and forth with lights. They had quite a conversation going. Keith created a ‘patent pending’ method similar but superior to the now obsolete morse code.
It SAYS messages “WRITTEN on the LIGHT FIXTURE”
I don’t know about writing on light fixtures. I know about morse code-like communications. It would be hard I think to read something written on a light fixture. But on the other hand, I think I remember the supporters flashing a high beam of colored light into the cell.
Oh my God, you’re acting like I’m making it up!
It’s in your post! This very post.
That is a quote from your post. – what does it mean?
Clearly I know about their stupid light code I said that already and you have mentioned it 4 years. I am asking you about this current new post and the quote I gave you from your own post. I did not ask if they would be easy to read I did not ask about the old information I asked about the new information in this post. Dear God.
No, I believe you.
In my experience, which is a degree in photography, I would explain that as he absolutely took the pictures and like anything and everything else with Keith, cannot admit that he is not a genius.
I would say this definitely just means that when he opened the camera to first use it, likely taking the tree as practice, he did not know how to set the date and time and therefore that’s why the times are off simply because of some thing he did wrong.
I think he’s using the opportunity of some thing he didn’t do correctly to try to twist that into “oh no they’ve tampered with it.”
I just think that he doesn’t know how to use the camera properly and that’s why it’s off and looks weird, and absolutely with transferring the pictures to a computer may mean that he could have messed up the times by the computer changing them. I don’t understand why people would fight over it anyways because if it was 2003 which is the anomaly, she would be even younger than 15. Just admit when you’re wrong Keith and take the punishment you deserve.
“I don’t understand why people would fight over it anyways because if it was 2003 which is the anomaly, she would be even younger than 15.”
Because if the date shows as 2003, the camera model reportedly didn’t even exist in 2003, so something was likely faked.
No, it means whoever set the date of the camera at set up didn’t know what they were doing, that’s simply all it means, the camera doesn’t know the date it was made, it only knows the date set on it and that only comes down to user error.
Umm…no. The 2003 date is easily explainable if the computer never had its date and time updated after purchase, or it was even set wrong. Then any files downloaded from the camera card in 2005 would have a creation date on the computer in 2003. This doesn’t show that it was likely faked at all.
THANK YOU YES! yeah the date and time of it is only based on 1) the date set initially and if it’s wrong, it’s not going to be self aware in knowing it’s telling you that date, it’s only telling you what it was programmed to do
and 2) creation dates only state when it was “made” but that doesn’t account for copies, duplicates, edits, it doesn’t mean it’s the original original always.
People should remember this from a little thing called Y2K, they believed that computers changing to 2000 in date would get confused and cease to work, causing massive issues, but it was a false fear. I can go and set my computer in settings that it’s 1979 right now and it’s not going to know the difference. It is going to do what I programmed it to do.
If KR knew anything about using the camera for real, what any of the software or settings actually do, you can ( as many professional photographers do for editing ) take images in a RAW format, that’s what DSLRs are designed for, it keeps the most data not just about things like date and time but the composition of the photograph data itself.
High resolution is key in the industry. You must use something like photoshop or adobe Lightroom to view and change these if needed, even something like windows preview or viewer will allow you to view and change certain things. I think the only real possibility of an explanation is that whoever used the camera just didn’t know how to set the date and time and that comes down to literally only one thing, user error.
You can also wipe a camera clean of things like the picture number that you’re on, which otherwise will count up simultaneously even after dumping a card that’s been filled with images. Giving it a complete wipe of its memory and not even realizing you’ve reset things like date and time are very simple to do.
First, to the two Magat types who trespassed here last week – wearing dark shades on a very cloudy day – the dogs have your scent and while I do apologize for their rudeness, should you really shoot them as threatened – I’m afraid you’ll have to deal with their cousin across the street who’s, granted, not a full-blooded pitbull but is also police academy trained.
Send me the drycleaning bill for your pant stain.
Question on topic:. Forgive my tech ignorance but is there any way the computer’s time data automatically adjusted to a different time zone at some point?
Any possibility that they were remotely linked to another device?
Let’s not forget Keith & Co. had years, decades to plan this shit with the best techsperts Clare’s money could buy and highly suspicious he so obviously left the evidence behind – sans the underage Cami pics.
So, who was the alleged Stallion who was not Keith?
“Any possibility that they were remotely linked to another device?”
Uploading to an online server, the cloud, or similar like file management systems could possibly do this, the camera data is hard to change after the fact there would I think still me fragmented evidence of that data but it could yes potentially take on the new data imprinted by the created date the file was “created” (transferred there)
So, question for Frank:
We know about Vanguard’s group blow jobs, liasons, seduction assignments, etc but was Dr Danielle a partner?
We never hear.
She never made the final cut, she said in an interview. She was willing to consider being a romantic partner, she said but he did not invite her.
Michelle lied about her completed seduction assignment. Doctor branding iron is probably lying about her seduction assignment.
There’s testimony about Lauren asking Allison if all of her slaves were being given the seduction assignment. Allison answered in the affirmative. Danielle could be using a technical term 2 skirt the question and there was definitely sexual contact but not maybe explicitly intercourse with doctor branding iron.
Either way doctor Branding Iron was routinely producing explicit p*** for Keith.
Depends on how you define sexual intercourse. Danielle Roberts may have a different version or idea of it. It doesn’t have to be vaginal intercourse. There are other forms of sexual intercourse.
If I had to guess: her intelligence and personality intimidated him.
Yup, no hard-on for hippocrates.
Oh God we’re back on about the tree…
Yeah. That definitely proves the FBI faked evidence. That picture of the fuckin’ tree.
This is beyond laughable. This is Ramtha worthy nonsense. It ceased being worthy of debate long ago, and at this point the joke is stale.
The wonderful thing about Vanguard continuing to talk from prison and you obediently posting his missives is that anyone can go back and read that for example Keith unequivocally States that Nancy Salzman was always going to take a plea deal. Vanguard States. Nancy plaid primarily due to health reasons. He then goes on to detail some other reasons why Nancy Salzman plaid. He never mentions ever your theory that you keep putting forth. Which is that It was the child pronography charge. That caused Nancy to take a plea deal.
Just like many of the theories put forth in this most recent post not only are they baseless and unprovable they’re just opinion. And like your theory that all of the other defendants only plaid because of what you deem the late discovery of child pronography even Vanguard the great incarcerated attorney for himself has never pushed that theory. And unfortunately for Vanguard and his moronic cult followers by doing very legitimate lie concerning activities that violate safety and protocol at the Detention Center they have clouded the issue in such a way that you will never be able to make a successful argument that it was about any other discussions.
The cult followers broke the rules repeatedly and did a lot of concerning things that had nothing to do with legitimately discussing a case and that is why the decision was made to end the calls
I do like the subtle reference to John Lennon’s song “imagine'”: “Imagine all the people sharing donuts and coffee. You may say Raniere is a dreamer, but he’s not the only one. The Forgotten Ones hope someday you will join them”. Now that’s creative and funny!
But other then that I find this alleged FBI-tampering story repetitive and (still) unconvincing.
What caught my eye was this passage in his call to Mariana about the dancing outside MDC::
“It can quite nicely grown to encompass licensing, finding new artists etc…”
Raniere talks about his vision of licensing the dirty-dancing oustide a prison concept.
He clearly gets carried away here. There seems to be no limit to his perception of importance, greatness and visionary capital. What an idiot.
The last time he tried to enforce something he thought he patented (video conferencing technology) he lost a civil lawsuit against AT&T and was reprimanded by the judge and had to pay up. Loser.
“Raniere talks about his vision of licensing the dirty-dancing oustide a prison concept.
He clearly gets carried away here. There seems to be no limit to his perception of importance, greatness and visionary capital. What an idiot.”
Delusions of grandiosity — an insuppressible trait of a narcissist.
All of these “ideas” of Raniere were never followed through with. Why? 1) Because they sucked. 2) Because he’s a lazy sob whose only motivations were sex, grifting, ego ingratiation, and control.
What a buffoon. It’s amazing (shocking?) that anyone with a half a brain cell could subjugate themselves to hours on end of his grandiose blabbering with massive eye rolling. The only successful thing about Raniere was that he was a successful conman…for a while.
Sorry but Booth didn’t lie. He clearly said it was not easy/hard to change unless you had software to do just that.
Raniere’s defense team then pointed out on cross that the times can’t be guaranteed and Booth admitted ti that.
So they questioned its validity like any good defense team would do. The jury didn’t care because unlike the deadenders they had no reason to assume the FBI would change it. And no defense team is going to start accusing the FBI of tampering in the stand.
This is still and will always be a nothing burger. An after the fact idea by a computer guy to try to impress a conman.
Raniere took those pictures, he knows it, Cami testified to it at restitution under oath, and he’s just lying like he’s always done to get off.
Don’t be sorry @ 3:47 am.
You are correct.
Booth didn’t lie.
It’s being inaccurately reported. Again.
But it’s an opinion in any case.
IF that is Booth’s opinion (IF) It still would not matter. You can disagree with an opinion. You can argue it. Try to show a different opinion
But it’s not a lie.