Shivani: Nobody Knows What Allison Mack Is Thinking Now, Very Possibly Not Even Allison Mack

By Shivani

The ones who appear “cute” and who want to claim that Keith Raniere deceived them forget how much their enthusiasm and the culty craziness shows and that it has been seen.

Allison Mack, in particular, appeared to be all too delighted to do dirty work. For how many years was Mack trying to be a golden member of Raniere’s crew? A glittery example of WHAT? You don’t do those actions without permission from the self. Allison Mack was not an automaton.

At any given moment, she could have told herself “This whole thing doesn’t feel right to me. I don’t feel good about what’s going on here, and now I need to cut my losses and go.” It seems that she got off on what she was doing. Is she still a cheerleader? Is she still dying to get back to this cult immersion?

The idea of “feel sorry for me” being bruited about to ameliorate these actions and this dedication to being important to a monster is not necessarily sincere. The apologies offered to make a plea deal are also self-serving. Having a (rumored) nervous breakdown after getting caught and losing some freedom? Hot diggity.

People who fight addiction are often counseled to glean an understanding, that the number of years that one is addicted is going to be matched by how long, how many years you’ll need to be super-vigilant, to begin to balance out the years that have been lost. Even then, it will still the battle of a lifetime and never really ends.

Nobody knows what Mack is thinking now, very possibly not even Allison Mack. No one knows if she is or isn’t using sneaky methods to stay in touch with her DOS pals. Allison could even have found a new cult with another tweaked agenda to turn her on and to use as ego food as soon as she can get away with it. For that matter, what’s to trust? Mack could be just as wack as ever and could be awaiting her resurrection as a card-carrying devotee of Raniere.

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Editor’s Note: It was suggested by a commenter that Frank Report published – either deliberately or unwittingly – “fake” pictures.

Below are some authentic photos of Allison Mack.

These photos are of Mack who starred in a 2011 crime drama, “Marilyn”. The scenes show Mack whipping off her clothes to take a shower, and flashing her topless chest in the process.  This was before Keith Raniere micromanaged her acting career telling her what roles she could accept.

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If you look closely – in the film – Allison has tattoos on her chest.

 

 


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  • Shivani,

    Interesting summation of Allison Mack’s mindset. I think you are right on the money.

    I believe Allison Mack drifts between a myriad of thoughts, feelings, and perspectives; none of them good.

    If Lauren Salzman is indicative of the power of indoctrination by NXIVM(DOS), then I am sure Allison Mack is in the same boat. It’s difficult for me not to have a degree of pity for Allison [Shadow, don’t worry, I have more pity for Allison’s victims].

    Shivani you are completely correct if Raniere is ever set free, most of his banner women would run right back.

    I find the idea of the DOS members being so brainwashed very unsettling.

  • “Nobody knows what Mack is thinking now, very possibly not even Allison Mack”: Shivani

    I doubt that she is thinking much of anything.
    For the last 12 years, Allison Mack has been doing very little thinking at all.
    And her family is thinking “How did we get such a Nutcase for a daughter”?

  • I only read as far as ‘At any given moment she could have told herself “this whole thing doesn’t feel right to me”‘. Doesn’t the writer understand that this guy spent years breaking these people down? From what I’ve read, some huge part of Keith’s philosophy is centered around not shying away from things that make one uncomfortable. That’s how he normalized his abuse. I really think Shivani needs to understand that many people who fall victims to cults are the same people who would proudly declare themselves too smart to get sucked in.

    • Max, you make sense saying that Raniere had normalized his abuse and did so over time. Yet many of Raniere’s cooperative co-conspirators came in to his sphere of influence and then kept deciding to stay for it. Our free will operates 24/7, especially when we’re adults, supposedly.
      Keith Raniere had to control a group and then, bigger and bigger pyramid groups as he got ahold of more resources and more recruits.

      The only people who were completely victimized by Raniere were his underage sexual victims (and their families.) Those are the people who are not considered able yet, to have given any sexual consent to him. Those innocents, Raniere seduced when they were underage and weren’t equipped, couldn’t control him by saying “no.” He breached all of their human rights. If Raniere forced himself onto anyone at all who said “no,” he was acting as a rapist. Kristin Snyder very, very likely tried her best not to have sex with Raniere. She was heard to have said that he drugged her, that she was not only drugged but raped.

      While I feel sorry for Allison Mack for how she, as an adult used her free will, that’s not all. She recruited for minor girls, vulnerable to sex-trafficking, and Allison knew it. Allison did a whole lot of things, as has been shown in detail. Her actions as a woman feel repugnant to me. If she is rehabilitating herself, that would be one story. If she is cult-hopping or relationship-shopping or hopping, out of the frying pan into the fire, that’s another story, like switching drug fixes. If she is still entrenched with Raniere, that is no change.

      My concern is not for punishing someone, wishing somebody to go to prison for a long sentence. The exception to that would be someone convicted who could still be a danger out of prison. If Lauren Salzman really was done with Raniere, if Allison Mack is really done with him, with Nicki Clyne, (still in) that will show. When someone has broken the chains and reignited their own individualized free will, it begins to come out of them. It is seen and heard in their words, in their actions, even in their eyes. It would be great to see evidence, to learn that somebody has broken free or is on the way. What a step it would be.

      But real realignment comes from a sincere reckoning about oneself and about responsibility, personal responsibility. No one can do it for you, but people look for signs of a cure from cult inculcation and usually feel happy to see that reawakening of anybody’s free will happening. We will learn a lot at sentencing. These could be performances of a lifetime, or these could be uneventful and stoic. The best thing we might hope for is to see that at least one of the defendants has broken on through to the other side and is ready to operate free will without doing harm anymore, especially to any more children. But we already realize some Nxivms have been operating schools, even right now. Nxivms are in somewhat of a state of waiting, but not all are just waiting. Is Danielle Roberts still in Mexico? Is she a victim of Raniere?

      Now is Sara Bronfman a victim? Is Brandon Porter a victim? How about Nancy Salzman? Those who still might be dangerous to others, many are free as birds right now. How is that fair to whosoever they decide to hurt next or are harming now? Their very Nxivm/DOS lifestyles serve as warnings, get many Nxivms are not only still entrenched but are acting with impunity, internationally. I’m not sugarcoating that Nxivm is an ongoing enterprise, nor that some seem to be being protected. There is a lot more to research and to expose.

  • Remembering an article by Shadow state. It was published here in 2018. He quoted Allison Mack, who said to a New York Times reporter, “I have two tattoos, and they mean nothing.”

    Then Allison launched into her lipspeak about branding human flesh and how it’s so much more meaningful than tattoos. She was completely unaware of how she sounded, patting herself on the back like a self-besotted, reckless demon, while accrediting herself for coming up with the idea for branding a pyramidlike series of sex slaves. History tells us how branding human flesh has equated human beings with livestock.

    Allison Mack, while under house arrest, reportedly had to go and get her driver’s license renewed or reinstated, out near her parents’ house in Los Alamitos, OC, Ca. In walks Allison Mack to a DMV? I mean, she thought that she was so hotshit to brag about branding flesh. Even Whitney Houston doesn’t need to holler “Mack is wack.” But you do the boogaloo, Allison. One would think that a slave driver would have a chauffeur. Right, Whitney Houston? Plus a bodyguard who looked like Kevin Costner in 1992.

    It turns out that Allison Mack had slaves, sex slaves. Houston, we have a problem. The wack Mack did not hear about the American Civil War? What the hell, explain this to me one more time.

    Allison Mack decided to be the Snidely Whiplash of female empowerment? But she was really white trash? So she got arrested for what? Was it bad acting? Did Allison Mack act badly? Is she the haggard-looking tattooed, branded woman, that one you hope never gets onto your subway car? I never liked Mary Poppins, but Allison Mack has carried it too far, in some other maimed and vomitous direction. So she got all hubba-bubba about sadism and was smiling theatrically, in front of international press to “say it loud! I like charred flesh and I’m proud!”

    If only Allison had gotten what she wanted so desperately. She would have her crotch pressed squarely on Raniere’s back as he crawled all over his detention center on all fours. Giddy-up! Allison can lead the parade on the Flabturd Float like a waving, corsaged ambassadress.

    Will Mack jetset to NYC, under custody, to receive her sentence? Huh? Then what? Exoneration? A trip back to California, still in custody? Victorville is less than one hundred miles from Los Alamitos, but it could be on another planet for Allison Mack. Is she bisexual voluntarily?

    If she goes into a prison with lots of $$$, she can set herself up as a sugar mama. Just don’t boast, keep quiet. You boast and you are toast. Better not mention Raniere. Too many of your fellow prisoners already had someone just like Raniere for a stepfather or an uncle or a neighbor or a teacher, a cousin or a priest. Keep your cool and check out your surroundings. Listen now to podcasts featuring women who have gotten through being in prison. However badly I might think that Allison Mack has sucked at life, even she can have a fighting chance to clean up her act, even in prison. She is going to see things that she has never seen before, almost right off the bat.

    If Allison winds up in prison, she won’t regret it if she has her hair colored back to match her natural color before going inside. If she gets six months or more, Allison had better be studying all of her own acts. If she has reformed herself at all, she can be an entertainer without strings again. She turned herself into a Raniere puppet. There has got to be some way back.

    If Allison goes to prison, afterwards, with a little research, she could get a divorce and move to Mauratania and eat huge greenleaf boats full of couscous morning, noon and at teatime, dinnertime and even more at night. She might want to change her name. Allow me to suggest that Allison Mack could make a terrific Izzy Rose. It could be soooooo Sadie Thompson.

    Allison Mack is a DOS sex slave in search of a new autobiography. Cue the music. Get the castanets. Hopefully no more a capella groups. No one really likes quite that much purgatory. Where Allison Mack might be going, somebody once said about prison, “maybe it’s better to do your time in hell before you die.” And that was that.

  • “Allison Mack, appeared to be all too delighted to do dirty work.”
    Hmmm no, she doesn’t, if the trial showed anything, it’s that it’s obvious that she followed order due to her collateral and mental manipulation…

    ” For how many years was Mack trying to be a golden member of Raniere’s crew?”
    Not many…once again, she was not in the real inner circle until really late…It’s not Lauren.
    Allison was there for 12 years and only in 2013 , he started to manipulate her by starving her (due to her personnal problem, she was the most vulnerable)

    Before, Allison didn’t gave a crap except at the same level as any student (including people like Cat Oxenberg who tried “enthusiastically” to recruit her step kids in the cult)

    “Allison Mack was not an automaton.”
    Oh yes she was…She is nothing like the person she was under the influence and coercion of Raniere…don’t talk about things your don’t know…BTW try to stop being obsessed in twisting facts before judging her.

    “At any given moment she could have told herself “this whole thing doesn’t feel right to me. I don’t feel good about what’s going on here, and now I need to cut my losses and go.””
    Same for anyone who is a victim of the cult , you idiot! Including Nicole!

    ” It seems that she got off on what she was doing.”
    She didn’t do anything wrong but collecting material and only once coerced herself…I remind you that it was almost the case on Jayes too (she was saved by the fact her “victim” refused to join.

    “Is she still a cheerleader? Is she still dying to get back to this cult immersion?”
    You are an utter idiot…first, she testified against Raniere…Second, she is (most likely) gonna testify again at the appeal.

    ” Having a (rumored) nervous breakdown after getting caught and losing some freedom? Hot diggity.”
    You are a pure idiot…anyone in this situation could be in this position and it’s a pure rumor debunked by people close to her…just another click bait.

    “People who fight addiction are often counselled to glean an understanding, that the amount of years that one is addicted are going to be matched by how long, how many years you’ll need to be super-vigilant, to begin to balance out the years that have been lost.”
    While not untrue FOR DRUGS, it has nothing to do with cults…once out of the mental control reach, member usually get better soon (depending the trauma).
    A therapy might be needed but not for the “de-intoxication” but to fix the mental damage…it has nothing to do with drug were addiction is chemically induced.

    “Nobody knows what Mack is thinking now, very possibly not even Allison Mack.”
    Oh but some people do (and so is Allison), just not the people how want to hurt her…YOU and people around here don’t need to know what she think, it’s not her obligation and just because you can’t read her opinion, her position doesn’t mean she is still a member of Nxivm.

    “No one knows if she is or isn’t using sneaky methods to stay in touch with her DOS pals.”
    Suuuuuure , now shut up before you dig deeper your case

    “Allison could even have found a new cult with another tweaked agenda to turn her on and to use as ego food as soon as she can get away with it.”
    You sure know Allison and BTW, mr genius, Contrary to Lauren and her mother, Allison is still home retained at a high level…

    “For that matter, what’s to trust?”
    Certainly not your opinion, you show how flawed it is every time you talk

    ” Mack could be just as wack as ever and could be awaiting her resurrection as a card-carrying devotee of Raniere.”
    Idiot…

    We can know easily when FR is out of stories by the headlines…KK is a man, KK has a video of her on the toilet ready to be released, Shivani’s opinion…

    Frank, grow up and accept when it’s a weak week and just avoid posting useless stories.
    In a short time you manage to go from a “pilar” of this case to a nutjob and his conspiracy theories kind of blog.

    • If only you can begin to comprehend that what you give out, as anger and depression, amounts to self-harm. You’ll have to find this out within yourself, and if you don’t, you are going to keep harming yourself more.

      You are not alone, and many have trudged these waters, have been in your shoes. There is sound and fury. Self-destructiveness provides no release; it just keeps the trapdoors shut. Can you see that you’re hurting yourself? Your pain and anger comes back to you like a boomerang. Can you see how you’re making yourself struggle?

      No more than you can harm Frank Parlato as you carp, complain and criticize his platform and his writing, his choices of illustrations or whose comment he airs, that same “no harm” can you deliver to me. If anything, I feel empathy for you, towards you, as you demonstrate self-harm and self-alienation, disaffection, resentfulness, bitterness. This seems to be giving you a lot of pain and uneasiness.

      This cannot be who you are, so hurt, so angry and bottled-up. You cannot feel well, caught up in cycles of projection and anger. Why would you want to keep blaming yourself, holding on, not letting go of whatever is the real source or sources of your tension? Eventually you understand that you cannot be attached to your misery. There is never a way out of that self-harming, so long as you stay in that quicksand of such unhappiness. About all that you are doing is projecting it outward as condemnation and blame.

      Find ways to stop tormenting yourself, nonviolent ways which can raise your spirit, not letting yourself stay down in such anger and unhappiness. This is not helping yourself.

      If you can’t stop it, at least think about it. Maybe give yourself a break and stop losing your self-control on a worldwide public forum. You are not respecting yourself. Where is your calmness, your strength or peace?

      What you do not give to yourself, you cannot offer. I do wish you well while realizing that you cannot and will not be able to accept that I wish you well. You might feel that no one has been where you are, and you get feeling hopeless and alienated. You let yourself show hostility, and I feel empathy for your painful behavior towards yourself. These are foot bullets that you give off yet are incapable of harming me or anyone else, self-immolation.

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