The game changers for Keith Raniere, Clare [l] and Sara Bronfman.

Government Can’t Just Destroy Nxivm Tech – They Have to Sell It if They Seize It – But Who Will Buy It?

By AnonyMaker

It seems that perhaps Keith Raniere’s claim to own 10 percent of First Principles, Inc., the corporation that owns the Nxivm “technology” [teachings], can’t be dismissed out of hand as spurious.

A search turns up references to NXIVM claiming to license the “Rational Inquiry Method” from Raniere, for which he appears to hold the patent, [or patent pending] though having assigned it to First Principles:

https://patents.google.com/patent/EP1320843A1/en
https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2002021481A1/

There would presumably then exist some formal assignment document.

Could the judge order the forfeiture of any of such intellectual property [IP] rights that Raniere might hold, as part of his sentence?

Regardless, so long as the IP rights are tied up in legal wrangling or government seizure, no one dares to use the materials, at least in the US and not publicly.

NXIVM’s reputation for scorched-earth legal tactics will have helped ensure that.

And that leaves the remnants of the group unable to do anything more than try to hold on to a dwindling number of diehards, without any programs to offer and no vehicle for recruiting. Even an attempt to create an offshoot or derivative of NXIVM would risk legal trouble down the line, depending on how the IP ownership issue shakes out.

As for destroying the tech [i.e. by the government, if it is successful at seizing First Principles], there’s no easy way for the government to assess that the “technology” is inherently dangerous or illegal, rather than the problem laying with the way it was applied or even just with the organization that happened to be using it.

Drugs and weapons of mass destruction are clear cut cases because they are incontrovertibly illegal to possess.

The government is tasked with recovering money for the taxpayers when it can.

I’ve even seen them turn around and resell forged art and antiques seized in fraud cases; it’s very hard for officials to make a determination that they can go ahead and destroy something that isn’t necessarily illegal to possess, particularly since such judgment calls are subject to public scrutiny and to being second-guessed and criticized.

Also, it occurs to me that the conspiracy-theory-minded NXIVM loyalists who already believe that Raniere is being railroaded would see the destruction of the “tech” as further proof that the government was out to get them. And come to think of it, they would probably make up things to believe such as that their valuable “tech” was not really being destroyed, just secretly being kept for use by the government in something like MKUltra part II.

I don’t know that the materials themselves are necessarily harmful, outside an environment run by people who also know how to manipulate with NLP and hypnosis, or run an MLM type pyramid scheme – and those key people, including the somewhat charismatic leaders who members followed, are going to be cooling their heels in prison for a while.

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Who Will Buy Nxivm?

Who might be the Nxivm technology – if First Principles goes up for sale?

Clare Bronfman, the current leader of Nxivm might buy First Principles.

 

Sara Bronfman, who – at least for now – has escaped criminal charges and is free to speak with any and all Nxivm members, might buy First Principles. She is currently operating a Rainbow Cultural Garden childhood experiment based on Keith Raniere’s teachings in Provence, France, where she lives. She might team up with her sister.

 

Emiliano Salinas – the head of the Mexican Nxivm operations. He has the wealth and adored the technology. He only bailed when Keith Raniere became an object of contempt.

 

Alejandro Alex Betancourt. He was on the executive board of Nxivm and worked hard to intimidate Raniere’s enemies. He is a trust fund baby and he and his lover Emiliano could team up to buy First Principles and operate it in the US and Mexico.

 

Nancy Salzman – it was her living for 20 years. She is likely to be sentenced to a very light term in prison. If she has, as is rumored, more than a million in cash stashed away, she could possibly launder it into someone else’s name and get the technology that she consented to forfeit to the government in order to show cooperation and hopefully a lighter sentence.  Nancy would also have her two daughters, Lauren and Michelle, and son-in-law Ben Myers to help her. Between the four of them, they could likely bring back many of the former members.

 

Michelle Nancy and Lauren Salzman – they worked together to build Nxivm – and dedicated between the three of them about 60 years to Nxivm and its tech – which they firmly believe is worthy. Neither Nancy or Lauren has said a word against the tech – even as they’ve repudiated Keith Raniere.

 

Edgar Boone and his brother, Omar Boone, come from a wealthy family. They are both trust fund babies and more importantly, they are still very much enamored of Nxivm tech. They proudly stand with their Vanguard and continue to operate Nxivm in Mexico. They are very likely buyers.

 

Omar Boone is presently one of the three directors of Nxivm – with Lauren Salzman and Clare Bronfman. He and his brother have the money and have the followers to keep Nxivm alive. And the nice thing about the Boones buying it is that they would likely keep Keith as the Vanguard and continue giving him tribute and gladly pay him the 10 percent he wishes.

 

Barbara Bouchey has always maintained that, while Keith is bad, the tech was very good. Bouchey has spoken about the days of early Nxivm as being akin to Camelot. She was a high ranking Nxivm leader [green sash] and an excellent recruiter. She created Vanguard Week and many of the methods for building the organization. She might be the surprise buyer who brings the Nxivm technology back – but likely under a new name.
Keith Raniere himself, with backers, might arrange to buy First Principles Corp – and own the tech outright. He might not put it in his name – but maintain control of it – even from prison.

Other students who felt they were helped by the tech might also try to buy First Principles from the government. I think it is likely that the government will try to sell First Principles and highly likely that there will be multiple potential buyers.

I think the government is aware of this.

Depending on who buys it, the name may be changed. Maybe the new owners will go back to using Executive Success Programs.

But it is also possible that the new owner will keep the Nxivm name.

Which raises a fascinating question – was there really any good in Nxivm? Was it just the people who misused it that made it a force for evil?

Was there anything in the tech that made people steal, rape and coerce others? Was there anything in the tech that made someone want to brand women and enslave them? Or was this just the madness of the creator of the tech?.

Did the founder and creator of the tech – Keith Alan Raniere – actually create something wonderful despite being inordinately evil?

Of course, no matter what name is used, if the Nxivm tech was taught again, under another name, it would soon leak out that this is Raniere’s creation. He is tied to Nxivm tech no matter what name is used.

I think Raniere realizes there will be buyers for First Principles Corp. and he likely wants to ensure he gets his 10 percent. Perhaps he is even arranging with the Bronfmans or the Boones to buy it.

Could he run it from prison?

None of this, however, is the government’s concern.

If they can sell it to a Bronfman or a Boone, and bring in a million or more, I think they have to do it. There might even be a bidding war.

Viva Executive Success!

 

 

 

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  • Re NXIVM Tech

    Perhaps Catherine Oxenberg would like to get some pay back for her daughter and purchase the NXIVM tech.

    If Catherine purchased the tech that would me she could sue anyone who used the NXIVM course material.

    She would on the intellectual property the copyrights and the royalties.

    She could then sue anyone who used the material without her express permission.

    I think that would be a great form of revenge…..

    • R U retarded?

      Firstly, it can take years to sue people and get a judgement. Suing multiple people would be even longer.

      Then, even if you win, collecting a real judgement big enough to cover all the litigation fees (and to leave a profit left over) is just not possible much of the time. So, such a strategy means bleeding money.

      Oxenberg has done nicely for herself and she’s a great actress, however, she is probably not a person with so much wealth that she can throw away tens of millions — as well as years of her life in litigation — just to sue NXIVM people for fun.

      Grow a brain, dickhead.

      You and Heidi both say some of the dumbest things sometimes.

      I’m still wondering what wifey sees in you. It looks to me like she got the worse end of the bargain.

      • *i.e., most defendants won’t have the assets to pay up even if you collect a big judgement, Mr. dickhead. 🙂

      • Just owning the IP rights, and having a lawyer send out the occasional cease-and-desist letter, can be enough. It may also be possible to get an injunction or cease-and-desist order against infringing parties fairly easily, and without going so far as filing suit for damages.

        As I pointed out, it’s likely that we currently don’t see anyone trying to use the NXIVM materials, in part because they’re afraid of being sued.

        I think NiceGuy does provide a plausible scenario of one of the people who might want to buy the “tech” to bury it, as I wrote about. Oxenberg can’t compete with the Bronfmans or any of the rich Mexican followers if they’re still interested when the rights finally go up for sale, but at least bidders like her might push up the cost for whatever remaining loyalists and, thus, the recovery for the taxpayers.

      • Bangkok,

        You have no idea what you are commenting on.

        Stick to writing reviews on Romanian Pawg porn websites.

        You are such a little dipshit.

  • Hi Frank. I watched the E True Story on NXIVM and noticed that not only did you not appear, but your name wasn’t even mentioned. Did they interview you or ask you to appear? I know you despise Hollywood and its virtual signalling liberal actors and actresses, so am wondering if you refused to participate in that production and that is why you were ignored. But Oxenberg praised the New York Times. Why no acknowledgement for you?

    Will you be in the HBO documentary series? Do you get paid when you appear on shows like that Lifetime interview? Do some of these shows not use you because you charge too much?

    • I don’t despise Hollywood or virtue signalling liberal actors. Despise is not the right word. I may not approve of some of it – but I do believe in freedom of speech and expression. As for the E True Story, I was not asked to participate and I did not see it. I imagine it was not very good – or very true – if no mention of my role was made. But it is not important to me one way or the other. I don’t charge for interviews for documentaries – and that is standard. Catherine might have praised me on her interview – but it may have been cut. They film a lot more then they use. I was filmed several times for the HBO series and I am told I will be appearing in it.

      Catherine did praise me in the Lifetime documentary – rather fulsomely.
      Thanks for your questions.

  • Who cares who might end up owning rehashed nexium teachings. They won’t be destroyed either, or banned, anymore than ‘Mein Kampf’ or
    ‘The Anarchist’s Cookbook’.

  • Reminds Me of the O.J. Simpson book “If I did It”… which the Goldmans were able to get ownership of the rights to the book, Change their judgment against him, …..then they were forced to sell the book to get value on his judgment to pay them.

    Kim Goldman has a great podcast right now, I made it through half of it before getting so irritated with the memories of that whole drama. I had to stop listening for my own mental health. I feel similarly when reading about KR (and David Miscavaige).

  • Frank, how come are you not covering why the DOJ NDNY and or NY State isn’t doing anything about the crimes NXIVM, the Salzman’s, Raniere, the Bronfman’s and other committed in Albany that was not covered in the EDNY charges?

    Is the fight over? Are you giving up on putting pressure on the authorities from finishing their jobs?

    Is this criminal enterprise really not going to get away with the rest of their crimes?

    Is Clare Bronfman only going to spend a maximum of 27 months in prison?

    Is Raniere not going to face the charges that were moved to the NDNY that the EDNY decided to move there because of his whining about where the crimes happened?

  • I refuse to refer to the NXIVM teachings/philosophy as “technology” or “tech,” which was used 22 times in this story. Scientology uses the same term for the BS that a failed fiction author called his BS, which Raniere obviously copied.

    The government has no right to own others’ ideas, no matter how disgusting those ideas are.

  • Since the patent application was summarily rejected by USPTO, there is no asset to sell. The so called technology was found to not be of value, unique or have any use.

    • It had appeared to me from the links I provided that a patent had been granted, though I see now that seems to be limited to Japan. If you know the patent system, can you please explain those entries better for us?

      Looking a bit further, here’s what I found for the US application, which I found in a system different from the main patent database:

      PCT/US00/40818 RATIONAL INQUIRY METHOD

      Transaction History
      Date Transaction Description
      08-23-2011 Mail-Petition Decision – Denied
      08-22-2011 Petition Decision – Denied
      07-28-2011 Petition Entered
      07-12-2011 Mail-Petition Decision – Dismissed
      07-12-2011 Petition Decision – Dismissed
      05-02-2011 Petition Entered
      11-12-2001 Case Docketed or Redocketed to Examiner in GAU
      03-21-2001 Mail International Search Report
      03-21-2001 International Search Report Ready to be Mailed
      02-08-2001 PCTC
      02-05-2001 PCT – Chapter 1 P210 / P237 (Full count)
      01-29-2001 PM85
      12-20-2000 Case Docketed to Examiner in GAU
      11-30-2000 PCTA
      11-20-2000 Priority Document Ordered
      11-20-2000 Notification of Receipt of Search Copy
      11-20-2000 Record Copy Mailed
      11-20-2000 Notification of Receipt of Search Copy
      09-05-2000 Receipt Date

      https://portal.uspto.gov/pair/PublicPair

    • The denial of the patent undoubtedly reduced the value of the asset but it didn’t change the fact that there is an asset.

  • I originally sketched the first part of this out as a comment, so I’m going to add a few further thoughts.

    I expect the IP to be bought by some remaining loyalist. The question then would be, will they cooperate in buying it – or defer to Clare Bronfman purchasing it – or will the remaining factions be fighting among themselves at that point, and competing for it? I can’t imagine that there would be any outside buyers, except someone who thought there would be some money to be made in selling videos and materials to former members.

    There’s a famous example of what can happen at auctions, from the art and antiques world, involving a celebrity known for being difficult to deal with, including being cheap and screwing people on deals. When they were selling off a collection, there was a particular piece that everyone thought should have been donated to the foundation that ran the artist’s home, to be displayed where it originally belonged, but the collector had refused a very reasonable deal offered by the foundation and its backers. So when the piece came up for bid, everyone put down their paddles, and let the foundation’s buyer take it for the starting bid price without any competition.

    But there’s no guarantee which if any of the major players, including the Bronfmans, will still have any interest in NXIVM’s IP once it goes up for sale. Based in part on what I’ve seen in other groups, most people will eventually move onto other things, and the most entrepreneurial will try to create something that is enough their own that they don’t have to answer to, or pay licensing fees to, any new owner of the IP, especially the longer things drag on in limbo. It’s also possible that a disaffected former member with enough money could buy it just to bury it, or just someone with money but so hapless that they will effectively kill it off.

    The other interesting asset question, is whether Raniere really has a financial interest in Bronfman’s island, which would be worth millions.

    Plus if Clare Bronfman is no longer paying his legal bills, he will owe a lot to lawyers out of whatever assets he might have.

    I think that the judge should rule that any assets Raniere didn’t list on his initial financial disclosure, should be forfeited as part of his RICO sentence, but I don’t know if that is within the normal sentencing purview.

  • My educated guesstimate. .
    The Bronfmans and the Boones put up the money to buy the bogus NXIVM tech.
    But they will use a straw person as the buyer or Front Person so that they are not identified with NXIVM.
    Nicki Clyne, you are that straw person.
    Nicki Clyne, you are the new Vanguard.

    The Vanguard is dead.
    Long Live the Vanguard!

    • It’s indeed quite possible that a front could be used to purchase the IP rights, including a foreign shell corporation that would be virtually impossible to penetrate. We’d only know when there started to be clear signs that someone had licensed the material and was using it again.

      Someone clever could, for instance, develop a new initial intensive that wasn’t obviously similar and, in particular, didn’t use any Raniere videos, and only after that return to the old program. But once someone starts doing something like that, they’re on the road to not needing the old NXIVM IP at all, except perhaps for the right to use something that would be similar to the “rational inquiry” method, and not risk being sued.

      And once anyone started using the old materials, and the Raniere videos in particular, it would only be a matter of time before they were outed as trying to revive NXIVM – with its toxic reputation as a sex cult. That will push any effort further in the direction of developing, or becoming, something new.

      Any new effort would also be lacking the key ingredient of a charismatic leader or guru, that is part of what makes high control groups or cults succeed, when they’re really all just working variations of the same basic techniques.

      • Yes and no. A group, such as the Boones, could use their experience with the tech to create a new company, using what raniere/salzman had created as a foundation. Change some names, change some elements and you have a new program, and a new company. They do not need any Raniere videos, because there were very few. One of the Boones already has had a human potential company, there is no reason for him not to start it up again. He was contractually obligated not to compete with NXIVM, but since that no longer exists he may have free reign to start one again, in Mexico. Everyone assumes NXIVM was involved with sex, but that was more Jness/DOS, the ESP component was strictly geared towards business and life success, and it was good and successful, until DOS. That is what the media does not want you to see or believe.

        • Interesting perspective, thanks for that.

          But doesn’t that all lead down the path I was suggesting, where anything new starts to become less and less NXIVM, if at all? Particularly if one of the Boones had a previous human potential program, it was probably based on many of the same sorts of principles. Typically what is most unique about these programs are their control techniques, and other pathological elements – like the sexual and sex roles aspects in NXIVM’s case.

          The media reported on the sensational aspects, because that was what was unique about the group.

          Jack Levy is the other name that comes to mind, as someone who sounds as if they might have the ability and charisma to do something on their own.

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