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Feds’ court filing suggest NY State criminal charges might be filed against Raniere and Mack

05/14/2018  |  Frank Parlato
Feds’ court filing suggest NY State criminal charges might be filed against Raniere and Mack
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The latest filings in the Raniere/Mack case have some interesting language in the cover letter that accompanies the “Stipulation & Protective Order” that was filed last Friday.


In addition to the list of Raniere-related companies that was included in that document that I already reported on, there is also the following language:


“Some Discovery Materials identify or tend to identify, alleged victims of human smuggling, alien harboring, physical or mental abuse towards an intimate partner, stalking, sexual abuse or sex trafficking, both of the charged crimes and other crimes or bad conduct of the defendants”.

 

As far as I can recall, this is the first time that the Feds have described some of the other charges that may be forthcoming against Raniere and Mack.  What’s particularly interesting is that some of these charges really seem more like state-level charges than federal-level charges — e.g., physical or mental abuse against an intimate partner, stalking, sexual abuse — which might mean that there will be separate state charges being filed somewhere down the road.


Hopefully, if that happens, those charges will be brought by the Brooklyn District Attorney, Eric Gonzalez, rather than by the New York State Attorney General or, God forbid, the Albany County District Attorney (It’s possible that the, hopefully, new Saratoga County District Attorney would do an OK job on these charges but he won’t be in office until January 1, 2019.


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Comments (54)

  • shadowstate1958May 14, 2018
    The Constitutional provision against Double Jeopardy does not preclude both Federal and state charges in the same course of criminal conduct.
    • shadowstate1958May 14, 2018
      Keith and Allison are getting a quick lesson in Criminal Law 101.
    • AnonymouseMay 14, 2018
      Correct. Different sovereigns… old English concept.

      Now since NXIVM has been exposed, the local DA can look like a hero for indicting senior leaders. And get a lot of good press for being tough on crime.

      Good optics for next county election.
      • tex2May 14, 2018
        Too late. It's not heroic to repeat at the local level what the FBI has already done at the federal level. Better to go their own crime somewhere else.
        • tex2May 14, 2018
          Correction: Better to go FIND their own crime somewhere else.
          • Freudian SlipMay 14, 2018
            What a freudian slip considering quite a lot of NY Gov is one giant crime spree.
  • HiramMay 14, 2018
    Oh Ali, Ali , Ali. Do you see now the error in your decision? One night with me and it would have all been different.

    But no'oooooo. It was all about the Vanguard and his super powers. Are you happy now?

    At least ended up with most of the rest of the harem.
    • shadowstate1958May 14, 2018
      Not to worry, Hiram.

      With good conduct Ali should be out in about 30 years.
  • OutsiderMay 14, 2018
    It's nice to see more charges coming Alli Mack's and Raniere's way, but I will be even more happy when people like the Salzmans and the Bronfmans indicted. One more month.
  • Grim ReaperMay 14, 2018
    The fact that VanFraud got to stick his penis into Allison Mack tells me that life isn't fair and there is no justice in this world.
  • Story of a (failed) ESP recruitmentMay 14, 2018
    • AnonymousMay 14, 2018
      Thanks for the link.
    • Grim ReaperMay 14, 2018
      I see they're still scamming this ripped-off “technology” as patented. It's been “patent-pending” for almost two decades and has been rejected a number of times for one. And it's never been a “technology”. Never ever ever ever.

      Constantly repeating these lies to sell this shit masked as trash masked as technology is fraud.
    • onewomanarmyMay 14, 2018
      Thanks for this, an insightful perspective on how difficult it is even to admit to having been duped by a cult. Makes the courage of those speaking out even more exemplary.
  • JadeMay 14, 2018
    If Allison's mom really does read the comments, she better get Allison to flip ASAP. Yeah, she'll still serve time, but not forever.
    • Grim ReaperMay 14, 2018
      From what I have read here, Allison supposedly was raised with rather liberal sexual values, so I can't say I'm shocked she accepted the entire polyamory idea and pimping for a sex addict.
      • Add child actor to the mixMay 14, 2018
        You pretty much have a perfect recipe for what has transpired.
        • Grim ReaperMay 14, 2018
          Also, Hollywood people tend to be more sexually liberal – a number of actors engaging in outward monogamous relationships while getting some on the side or behind the scenes so they are already predisposed to polyamory – so it's also unsurprising that VanFraud specifically targeted Allison to form “The Source” while being the next lead pimp to specifically seek out young nubile actresses to join DOS. Clare is VanFraud's money arm and Allison was VanFraud's vagina arm.
          • VillagedianneMay 15, 2018
            Polygamy happens among fundamentalist Mormons, who are far from being sexually liberal. It’s more a matter of indoctrination.
          • Grim ReaperMay 15, 2018
            So do some Muslims. Polygamy is sexual liberality compared to monogamy. It is less liberal than polyamory or having multiple sex partners outside of marriage, but anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves.John Smith taking 40 wives is no different in sexual liberality than John Doe having 40 sex partners outside of wedlock.
      • JadeMay 14, 2018
        We actually don't know if she is a sex addict. There is nothing wrong with being sexually liberal, the problem here is she got involved with a manipulative sociopath.
        • You chnaged their wordsMay 14, 2018
          If you re-read the comment, that individual said Mack ended up pimping for a sex addict. Not that she is one.
          • JadeMay 14, 2018
            My point about being sexually liberal still stands.
          • STDsMay 14, 2018
            Not as long as you don't mind STDs, which it is alleged quite a few DOS caught one.
          • Jonathan tuttleMay 14, 2018
            Pimpin ain't easy. – Jay Z.
        • AnonymousMay 14, 2018
          — There is nothing wrong with being sexually liberal

          Depends upon who you ask. People being given free will doesn't grant them automatic license to do whatever they want. Determining an ought is what the philosophy of ethics is all about.

          The manipulative sociopath will say there's nothing wrong with the things he does. The first principle of practical reason according to Thomas Aquinas is to do good and avoid evil. Everyone acts for the good of one's self. Whether that good is relative/absolute, subject/objective is the subject matter of the philosophy of ethics.

          How do you judge and from what criteria you judge from? That is the question.
    • JadeMay 14, 2018
      @STDs people are fully capable of practicing safe sex, and getting tested.
      • AnonymousMay 14, 2018
        There's no such thing as “safe” sex. That's just a myth. There's only safer sex. Every time you have sex, you're opening yourself up both physically and emotionally to a number of ramifications.
        • EpigeneticsMay 15, 2018
          And technically the DNA of everyone you have ever been with stays with you. The DNA of everyone you ever swapped spit with is found in the lining of your stomach.
        • JadeMay 15, 2018
          I'm so glad you're showing how you're missing the point of of my comment.
          • AnonymousMay 15, 2018
            I didn't miss the point. I pointed out things I found weak about it.

            Your first point was that there is nothing wrong with being sexually liberal. I contended this is a simplistic judgement as there are a number of people who do find it wrong, and that such ethical judgments must be rooted in strong philosophical arguments to hold any potency. You find that there is nothing wrong with being sexually liberal and neither does Raniere.

            Your second point was that “safe” sex protects people from STDs. I didn't disagree. I only pointed out that the term “safe” sex is misleading because 1) it is not 100% effective 2) it only considers two physical ramifications of the sex act – disease and pregnancy – and not any other ones, or the emotional or spiritual ones. The fact is when people engage in the sex act, they are not just sharing sexual fluids, they are sharing sweat, saliva, sometimes blood, all of which include DNA, etc.

            So no, there is no such thing as “safe” sex.
        • JadeMay 15, 2018
          Coercing someone into sex isn't about being sexually liberal, it's Rape.

          My meaning of safer sex is implied. I didn't say it keeps people 100% free of disease, emotions and potential children, so basically you're picking a fight to sound smarter than you actually are.
          • Jade is usually smarter than thisMay 15, 2018
            It is a really dumb fight to pick. You can't word salad being “free with yourself” sexually into a healthy, classy way to conduct your life.

            It would be better to just acknowledge your regret for giving yourself to people you shouldn't have.
          • AnonymousMay 15, 2018
            I wasn't talking about coercion. I never even mentioned it. I only made a point about sexual liberality and its moral correctness being a philosophical issue and contested the idea of “safe” sex, stating that there is no such thing. I was the one who pointed out the notion of “safer” sex with an “r”. But that only entails the physical aspects of STD prevention via the sex organs and unwanted pregnancy. It doesn't consider other physical aspects, nor the emotional and spiritual components of sex which always exist except in the case of…sociopaths. The latter even exist in the case of porn stars and prostitutes who sell sex for a living. Even physical dangers of sex exist for porn stars despite the use of condoms, especially for women. You are seemingly implying that safe sex makes being sexually liberal not wrong and that is a controversial contention. This is all discussed in much greater detail elsewhere. If the female victims of this cult were never sexually liberal they would've never been part of DOS.
  • Is Allison herself branded?May 14, 2018
    Does anyone know if she has one?
    • Be way worseMay 14, 2018
      If she doesn't, a jury will come down even harder on her.

      I am guessing she isn't. I mean, really, why would she need to brand herself with her own initials?

      Lauren Salzman is another I could see not having a brand.
      • Is Allison herself branded?May 14, 2018
        I wasn't able to comment in the most recent article about the garlic for some reason, but Frank seems to imply that she has one
        • shadowstate1958May 15, 2018
          Just remember “a garlic a daÿ keeps the Vanguard away.”
  • Mike S.May 14, 2018
    Note to Frank Parlato:

    Since you have so many contacts…….can you please write an article (or series of articles) which explain to outsiders what daily responsbilities & routines were given to people like India Oxenberg and Nicki Clyne to make them feel as though their lives were 'complete' enough to move to Albany and abandon the real world?

    I'm talking about non-sex and non-slave responsibilities.

    For instance, you say India managed the “Delegates” services……but what were her duties and pay level? Was it like a full time job? I'm just curious what kept her self esteem high enough to remain in Albany full time and abandon her mother?

    What about Nicki Clyne's daily responsibilities? She gave up being a successful actress for WHAT exactly?

    Surely, she did more than have sex with Keith and try to recruit slaves, since I can't imagine those duties being very interesting for any serious length of time. Surely, she had other major responsibilities.

    Nicki can never be hired again in the real world (burger flipping joints excluded) due to her toxic reputation……so I'm just wondering what she's getting in return for throwing away her entire success?

    Finally… Why is the organization forcing both India and Clyne to work as waitresses right now? Surely, they can remain close to Keith's jail while not being forced to work as waitresses for peanuts.

    I'm just curious to know more about the non-sex slave stuff. Surely, there must be more.
    • AnonymousMay 15, 2018
      Allison definitely can't act again but Nicki and the other actresses like Hacket could have a chance once the press dies down, especially if they turn on the cult. They'll be radioactive for awhile but not forever.
    • AnonymousMay 15, 2018
      I think with the exception of Mack, any actress that turns on the cult publicly will probably be able to find work again even if they are radioactive for a few years.
      • anonMay 15, 2018
        She may work but it will only be in Canada. She will be deported for her false marriage and lying to ICE
        • AnonymousMay 15, 2018
          If they can prove that the marriage was legally false. Reports and comments on this site assert that they had a ceremony, lived in the same house, and may have engaged in lesbian sexual activity. Regardless of motive I think they'd have a hard time proving it.
          • Nice tryMay 15, 2018
            Allison herself said they didn't move in together until something like 9 months after their “marriage”. It's in the court proceedings.
  • One sided warMay 15, 2018
    Some very strange observations about NXIVM —

    1) There is complete public silence from NXIVM, with no public relations campaign efforts to counter the barrage of negative publicity.

    2) There is complete public silence from Clare Bronfman, with no public relations campaign efforts to counter the barrage of negative publicity about her personally.

    3) No family members of the Bronfman are stepping forth to publicly defend her.

    4) No former NXIVM members are stepping forth to publicly defend the organization.

    There is only negative publicity, but I would have expected the Bronfman to at least have hired a public spokesman to say something positive about them. But it looks like everyone has gone into hiding.

    Does anyone know why there is complete silence from the Bronfman and NXIVM?
    • All of Them WitchesMay 15, 2018
      1 and 4 seem to be the same observations. NXIVM, through Clare Bronfman, through the Mexican branch (MXIVM?) originally issued statements: one in October which called the “branded slaves” article in The NY Times (paraphrasing) “false news”. Statements made by Clare after Raniere' s arrest stated that the charges were unfounded and KR would be vindicated. Frank Report published these statements and they should not be hard to find.

      2. I imagine Clare Bronfman is in some strange way enjoying the attention. Attention she never got from her family, and attention she only got from KR when he needed an infusion of capital. In her mind she still believes (brainwashed) that NXIVM is a noble organization, that can advance humanity, that NXIVM can “change the world by being the change” (sorry I keep going back to that nibble of Sarah Edmondson word salad).

      3. I think when you talk “Bronfman family members”, you are talking sister Sara and two half brothers who are not particularly close to the Bronfman sisters. It seems like Sara has recently distanced herself from all things NXIVM, though the money trail and the fact that she has corporate positions with many NXIVM entities such as Rainbow CULTural Garden may lead to her eventual indictment.

      Fun scenario to think about: would Sara make a deal and “flip”

      on her own sister??
      • The Real BronfmansMay 15, 2018
        There are four brothers and a sister. The sister changed her name and disassociated from the family. The brothers have never seemed to want anything to do with Sara and Clare.

        With how much evidence they have, I don't think they need anyone to flip or how much of a reduced sentence anyone could get from flipping.
      • AnonymousMay 15, 2018
        “Be the change you wish to see in the world” was said by Gandhi and was something frequently quoted by Nxians. It’s not word salad and actually makes sense since it wasn’t invented by VanFraud. It just means you have to do to become and then influence change on others in the same way. It’s what all great leaders remembered throughout history did and still do and therefore is something VanDouche never cared for as he sat on his pudgy, lazy ass all most of the day in some remote place most of the world never heard of.
    • shadowstate1958May 15, 2018
      How does one defend branding and slavery without looking like a lunatic?
      • facts not specMay 15, 2018
        How does one claim branding and slavery without looking like they don't know the law.

        Easy. create website like this

        hire someone like shadowstate with an obsession with Mack to comment on every post.
        • Go away Allison's motherMay 15, 2018
          Completely ignore the evidence the Feds detailed in the indictment and pretend your daughter is a victim.
        • Stop being a troll the Shadowstate obsession is annoyingMay 15, 2018
          Your obsession is looking a bit disturbing!! Look after your Daughter!!! Be the mum you should have been 12 years ago… Stopping TROLLING every single post on here about Shadowstate… Every one can see it now.. If I have to Read the BS “knocked back on Twitter” your repeating your se,f like a lunatic!! I reapeat look after your daughter like you should have been doing for all these years
    • Standard Operating ProcedureMay 15, 2018
      It is their standard practice of playing ostrich.

      According to Keith, if you don't acknowledge it, it doesn't exist. Not sure how well that is serving him sitting in MDC, rocking in his cell pretending he is back at his sex lair.
  • AnonymousMay 18, 2018
    Those charges go beyond state level when you're talking about organized crime and cults of this magnitude. We are not just talking about an individual violating another individual, that'd be a much different story if that were the case. We are talking about organized abuse and exploitation against women, children who are citizens of the U.S. and those who are not. Which obviously all goes far beyond state charges.

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