Kristin Kreuk left NXIVM quietly and gracefully but tried her heart out over several years to get Allison Mack out, including staging multiple interventions. Mark Hildreth immediately left NXIVM too when he heard about DOS. And Grace Park is taking a big stand in support of Sarah Edmondson. They should all be applauded. It takes a lot of guts and heart to see through, and stand up to, Keith Raniere and Clare Bronfman, no matter who you are, celebrity or not.
KK gains nothing by coming forward
KK a victim too
Frank, don’t be so hard on innocent people [KK]. Your mission shouldn’t include hurting victims of this disaster in order to accomplish your goals of bringing NXIVM down. That’s the kind of thing Keith does.
Your focus should turn towards the local authorities, and why they haven’t taken action. You’re punishing Kristen for the same thing….
So, are you willing to put further spot light on the local authorities that have failed to take action? Please expose!
Hey Frank, there’s enough controversy for you to report on from current stuff that’s going on right now.Kristin has nothing to do with this. When you reach like this, you start to discredit the stuff you’re writing that might have merit. If you spend too much time in the gutter, potentially legitimate accusations are going to get washed down the sewer drain.
If you let the sensationalism get the best of you, you’ll be preaching to sensationalists only. Don’t drink that koolaid. You come off like an asshole when you do.
Don’t blame the celebrity
KK should not feel guilty
Kristin shouldn’t feel guilty for “recruiting” Allison. Why? If it wasn’t her, it would’ve been somebody else. This is what cults do…. This cult hides behind NXIVM and its many variations, e.g., Jness, ESP, DOS, The Source, etc., which promise self-help or self-improvement using an Amway like multi-level marketing scheme business model….
The victim goes into an intensive looking to better themselves, and unwittingly falls under a mild form of brainwashing where they are manipulated into feeling good by the end of it and are coaxed into recruiting more people… .
When Kristin joined this group, it was way back in the 2005/2006 time frame, far away from Clifton Park, when there wasn’t much negative information out there on it. Do you think if she knew the things as they are now – that NXIVM is a sex cult for its leader, and to live off of others while hiding the money he makes – that she would have joined, or that she would’ve recruited Allison?…
Guilt and shame should be based on legitimate responsibility, not upon something you thought you were doing out of good and sincere intentions. Kristin got out. Others got out. So, if Allison wants to blind herself to Reality with all of the information out there now, and refuses to get out, even though Kristin allegedly tried to help by intervening, then that’s Allison’s fault.
Previous reports from supposed insiders claim KK tried for years to get Allison Mack out and staged multiple interventions…
KK out for years
Why do you keep reporting on Kristin? For media coverage? She has been out of ESP for at least 4-5 years.
KK got out in 2012, that’s more than others did
Sorry, I don’t see… that Kristin played a “strong” role in this cult. I see an association in name only… and certainly nothing to link her to the [DOS] “sorority” and branding….
Allison [Mack] is still in, and Mark [Hildreth] only left this past summer. [KK] has no Keith Raniere Conversation videos … which even Grace Park has. Kristin has been out for five years, as she appears to be the only one who took the Times Union report, written back in February of 2012, by James Odato seriously enough to leave, after reading about his past history with teen girls….
Kreuk may have to own up for her past actions, but she NXited years ago and shouldn’t have to be falsely implicated in DOS… but sadly for Kristin, her name draws a lot of readers to blogs.
KK does not need to name Raniere
Kristin is NOT a hypocrite!! She got out and I don’t blame her for leaving it behind and trying to forget about it. …. When she realized what was really going on, she got out, and separated herself from the group and everyone in it. Which is what anyone would do….
I completely understand why she didn’t say anything, it was obviously an unpleasant experience, and she wants it to stay in the past. That doesn’t make her coward.
Unless you have talked with her, and or know the kind of person she is, which you clearly don’t, don’t sit back and attack her for someone else’s crimes.
And did you ever think that she may be speaking up about these things because she has had experiences with people like Keith… and doesn’t want it to continue? She doesn’t have to name names, she just has to care. Which she clearly does…. It’s completely ridiculous and unfair for you to blame her for not mentioning [Raniere].
Raniere is the creep. Let’s not lose sight of that by pinning the blame on someone who has had nothing to do with the cult for almost six years now.
Looks like Keith still has you working for him after all. He couldn’t sully Kreuk in bed, but you’ll try and help him through your site.
“Memes have recently appeared on the website imgur.com tying Ms. Kreuk to NXIVM and the practices of DOS, which she very likely did not participate in.” BUT YOU WILL POST IT ANYWAY!
How does she pronounce her last name? Is it C-R-O-O-K? She blew it, it’s now too late for her to speak out. She had her chance, now many more women have been abused because she didn’t speak out. Just like Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, etc.
Fact is she jumped on Weinstein and said nothing about Rainere.. that says a mouthful.
I heard both of Harvey and Keith are only a half of a mouthful.
I believe Kristen works from the outside.. she’s not really a top rate actress. Never was. Her looks are all she’s got. But her hypocrisy in saying she was not involved.. and the fact she was there so long..I think we are going to learn more about how she’s involved.. soon. Don’t stop discussing her part.. don’t belly up to the kiddy fans.
Fake photo discussions are just more red herrings.. (basically bringing up shit that doesn’t matter as an attempt to disguise stuff that does matter). Why does is matter if the photos are real or fake? It really doesn’t .
What does matter are people’s actions and/or lack of actions.
People with any character (who had been involved in NXIVM before realizing what this group was all about ) would speak out publicly against it. Not speaking out says a lot (unless that person is under a gag order). …and theres no way we can know if that’s the case or not.
I’m not sure how much “star appeal” Kristin gave to NXIVM. She couldn’t even recruit any of the girls who her fans, and had worked with her in Girls By Design into the group.
I count four fake Kristin Kreuk photographs.
Frank, I understand you have a hard-on for Keith Rainiere and NXIVM (and rightfully so) but you need to be objective in your website efforts.
Kristin Kreuk is in an interesting situation and I can understand both points of view regarding her silence, or lack thereof, on this situation.
Do you think that is the only one that is fake?
You are not doing the credibility of your site any favors by including fake photos of Kristin (the yellow bikini one).