Suzanne and Kevin continue their debate on Keith Raniere, his remaining followers and the whistleblowers, former NXIVM high rank, Sarah Edmondson and Mark Vicente. Here is Suzanne’s latest.
By Suzanne
Dear Kevi;
You said you didn’t know anybody in Nxivm, except for Allison Mack, and you knew her tangentially from your work on the set of Smallville, many years ago. You’ve emphatically stated that you’ve never met Sarah Edmondson.
And that you didn’t know any of the other NXIVM people.
How then are you privy to a private conversation between Edmondson and Nicki Clyne’s mom?
Daniela and Lauren
Daniela seems to understand how badly Keith Raniere abused Lauren Salzman. She wrote for leniency at Lauren’s sentencing. It seems logical that Daniella should decide about Lauren.
Not weighing in on a personal opinion here about Lauren. Which is exactly the point. If Lauren was one of Daniela’s primary abusers, it seems that it would be more up to Daniella to decide.
Definitely not left to Kevin to decide LOL!
DOS Was Keith’s Creation – Not the Women
DOS was not a democracy, Keith said it himself.
The entire front-line slaves were there when he said [as heard in an audio used as evidence], and none of the front-line slaves disagreed with his statement.
All the recordings and emails show the front-line taking direction from Keith. It probably made some women feel a little better to fool themselves that this was all an idea they helped create, but it’s not their initials branded on anyone’s vagina. It’s Keith’s only.
The structure and organization ultimately benefited Keith.
It is true that Keith’s devoted slave women, such as Nicki, helped create DOS. Without all of them tricking their friends into DOS, giving blackmail (and then more and more), ordering seduction assignments, and graphic pornography that the mini masters knew was going to Keith, the organization wouldn’t have worked.
None of the slaves the front line recruited would have directly taken Keith’s orders or put that kind of trust in Keith, nor would they have wanted to do so.
The front line slaves were no different than the most trusted hookers in a pimp’s stable. Pimps use women to recruit other girls. Often younger girls. Those younger females would not respond directly to some man approaching them and saying, “hey, go have sex with people and give me most of the money”.
So pimps send women out to meet vulnerable girls, befriend them, and bring them into the pimp’s orbit.
In that sense, the front line was integral. But ultimately, they had nothing to do with the creation, because the very purpose of the DOS slavery was to benefit Keith.
He created DOS for that purpose.
Once a Pedo….
Dear Kevin – pedophiles do not change. Even with intense counseling and every possible therapeutic and law enforcement support, there is a high reoffending rate.
If you believe Keith was molesting girls back then, and he had absolutely no oversight with a law enforcement agency or specific targeted therapy and monitoring, which we know Keith did not.
The chance of Keith continuing to sexually exploit children is 100%.
All of that gives extreme weight to Camilla’s first person, consistent account of the sexual abuse she suffered from childhood at the hands of Keith.
Additionally, there is corroborating evidence. There are other witnesses who confirmed Camilla’s story under oath on the stand.
Kevin, for you to accept the reality of the older allegations of child rape that were beyond the statue of limitations but are unwilling to accept that Keith sexually exploited Camila, a 15 year old child and created pornography of her is illogical, irresponsible and tragically biased.
It is almost impossible for an active child predator to rehabilitate themselves magically.
“Lived in a room”
To say that Daniela “lived in a room” is a very disingenuous way of explaining what happened to her.
She didn’t have papers; she was in a foreign country illegally. She had no money. No connections outside this insular NXIVM community.
Perhaps, Kevin, you are too entitled and privileged to understand how vulnerable a person in those circumstances can be.
And Daniela was in the room at the direction of a man who had complete power and control in the community. This man was also her sexual partner, and both of her sisters were also enmeshed with him.
Two of these relationships were completely secret to pretty much everyone else. Certainly Danielle’s family was kept in the dark.
Daniela begged and pleaded to be released from the room, and this abusive senseless obligation to fulfill an ever moving target to be accepted back into outside life of the community.
First, it was an alleged ethical breach. For kissing another man. Even though that information was kept from all the integral parties to Daniella’s confinement.
Then it was an asinine book report. Next, it was coming up with this heal the breach plan and the right apology. Then it was because she cut her hair.
There is extensive documentation that Daniella suffered a critical mental crisis. Daniella was denied medical and for a long time dental care.
Calling it living in a room is f****** ridiculous and a lie.
When Keith inevitably exhausts all his appeals, all to no avail, I would love it if Moira Penzza wrote a book about the case.
She could do a lot of the legal aspects, with some interpersonal and other juicy nuggets thrown in.
But Moira could also pair with some other experts. Or even some of the main players.
Would love to see Camilla and Moira Penza pair up and write a compelling book from two extremely different Insider perspectives.
There’s so much more information that wasn’t used in the criminal trial or hasn’t been shared with the public in an easily accessible format or otherwise.
The more the dead-enders accuse people such as Moira of unfounded and crazy conspiracies, the more they are pushing people in law enforcement to come out hard refuting and dispelling all these insane notions.
So keep it up dead-enders. Can’t want to read that book!
Kevin, you’ve repeated that same bad fan mail story multiple times. It’s irrelevant to anything that’s being discussed here about a criminal case.
I am not sure why you think it is worth bringing to a conversation about Keith and the cult?
MK10ART: the branding table.Branding someone with unwanted initials of your boyfriend is violent. Blackmailing women into unwanted sexual contact is violent. Bare ass paddling for punishment while Keith pervs out watching is violent. Child rape is violent.
Good for you that you have a little bit of a boundary about hurting people. That’s pretty much the bare minimum expected from humans towards other humans. No violence. So hooray for you?
Here’s a virtual cookie. Yum yum.
But Kevin, you do not treat people respectfully. It’s “do as I say, not as I do”.
Lame.
You repeatedly said you wanted to defecate in Sarah’s mug. You said horrible things about Sarah’s ability to parent her young children. You justify that Kevin, because you feel negative emotions strongly about Sarah. There might be people on this blog who have strong feelings against the people you champion. If you’re going to resort to that kind of behavior Kevin and set such an awful example, no one’s going to heed your chiding advice.
Question to “Kevin “ 🤡
Do you think the fact our Vanguard could have women easily – with blackmail, lies and empty promises – made him to give up on his appearance or was he always greasy and tacky like that before the cult? How many EMs would take for him to clean up his house and face? How many EMs the girls had to have in order to forget his 🤢 smell?
Right Story Wrong first name.
Are we sure that Kevin is the right first name?
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(America is experiencing a massive move to normalize pedophilia and bestiality.
California Releases Thousands of Convicted Pedophiles Within a Year of Conviction
California has released thousands of convicted pedophiles after spending only a few months in prison.
Who do we know in the NXIVM story who was raised in California?
Such pedophiles have been convicted of “a range of horrific acts, including raping kids under 14,” according to the study investigation conducted by the U.K. Daily Mail.
More than 7,000 persons convicted of “lewd or lascivious acts with a child under 14 years of age” have been released in the same year they were convicted. Convicts who committed even more heinous crimes, such as sodomy and rape of children, also served short sentences.
“Thousands of child victims are being denied justice and George Gascón and his group of radical prosecutors can [sic] care less,” Los Angeles Deputy District Attorney Jonathan Hatami, who serves in the Complex Child Abuse Unit and whose outspokenness about DA Gascón contributed to a recall effort, told the Daily Mail.
Some short sentences include 365 pedophiles convicted of continuous sexual abuse of a child — all of whom spent fewer than 12 months in prison. Thirty-nine cases were convictions for sodomy with a child under the age of 16, while there were three cases of kidnapping a child under the age of 14 “with intent to commit lewd or lascivious acts.”
EXCLUSIVE: ‘It’s frightening for society.’ Thousands of convicted pedophiles in California are being released from prison in less than a year for horrific acts, including rape, sodomy and sexual abuse of kids under 14, DailyMail.com investigation reveals
An analysis of a California sex offenders database shows thousands of child molesters are being let out of prison after just a few months
DailyMail.com’s investigation reveals more than 7,000 sex offenders were convicted of ‘lewd or lascivious acts with a child under 14 years of age’
Those 7,000 pedophiles were released the same year they were convicted
Others who committed some of the worst child sex crimes, including sodomy and rape of children, served similarly short sentences
Current and former Los Angeles sex crime prosecutors tell DailyMail.com that the figures are ‘terrifying’ and ‘shameful’
Deputy DA Jon Hatami blames Proposition 57, a 2016 bill allowing early parole for nonviolent felons which was supported by his boss, LA DA George Gascón
‘Thousands of child victims are being denied justice and George Gascón and his group of radical prosecutors can care less,’ Hatami said
By JOSH BOSWELL FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 12:06 EST, 28 November 2022 | UPDATED: 15:37 EST, 28 November 2022
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Pedophiles are getting less than a year prison time after a range of horrific acts, including raping kids under 14, a DailyMail.com investigation reveals.
Analysis of a California database of sex offenders shows thousands of child molesters are being let out after just a few months, despite sentencing guidelines.
Current and former sex crime prosecutors said the figures are ‘terrifying’ and ‘shameful’.
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More than 7,000 sex offenders were convicted of ‘lewd or lascivious acts with a child under 14 years of age’ but were let out of prison the same year they were incarcerated, data from the California Megan’s Law database says.
Others who committed some of the worst child sex crimes on the statute books served similarly short sentences, including 365 pedophiles convicted of continuous sexual abuse of a child who spent less than 12 months in prison, 39 cases of sodomy with a child under 16, and three cases of kidnapping a child under 14 ‘with intent to commit lewd or lascivious acts’, according to the data.
Former Los Angeles sex crimes prosecutor Samuel Dordulian told DailyMail.com he was ‘shocked’ by the statistics and described them as ‘frightening for society’.
An analysis of a California sex offenders database shows thousands of child molesters are being let out after just a few months. Noah Thomas Holt, from Watsonville in Santa Cruz County, was convicted in 2013 of lewd acts with an under-14, child pornography possession and indecent exposure. He was released within a year of his conviction
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An analysis of a California sex offenders database shows thousands of child molesters are being let out after just a few months. Noah Thomas Holt, from Watsonville in Santa Cruz County, was convicted in 2013 of lewd acts with an under-14, child pornography possession and indecent exposure. He was released within a year of his conviction
‘Statistics clearly show that pedophiles don’t get reformed. They’re going to come out and they’re going to commit again,’ Dordulian said.
‘Letting these people out early, we’re allowing for a lot more victimization. And that’s terrifying.’
It is unclear whether the Megan’s Law database prison time statistics are similar for other states, as DailyMail.com was only able to obtain detailed sex offender data for California.
Former Los Angeles sex crimes prosecutor Samuel Dordulian told DailyMail.com he was ‘shocked’ by the statistics and described them as ‘frightening for society’
Former Los Angeles sex crimes prosecutor Samuel Dordulian told DailyMail.com he was ‘shocked’ by the statistics and described them as ‘frightening for society’
One offender in the database is Reseda, resident Carlos Alexander Nahue, 48, who was convicted of ‘continuous sexual abuse of a child’ in 2015.
His Los Angeles court records say he was charged in October 2014 and pled no contest to the crime in January 2015 – but was sentenced to just two days in an LA county jail and five years of probation.
He now lives one block from Royal Montessori School daycare and three blocks from Reseda Elementary School, according to the Megan’s Law database.
Noah Thomas Holt, from Watsonville in Santa Cruz County, was convicted in 2013 of lewd acts with an under-14-year-old, child pornography possession and indecent exposure.
The 31-year-old was convicted on a no contest plea in December 2013. But Megan’s law data says he was released within a year, and according to his Facebook page he started a new job at manufacturing company Threshold Enterprises in Scotts Valley, California in 2014.
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Holt has posted several pictures with a young girl on his Facebook page. He was also convicted of a DUI in 2017.
Gualterio Lopez Contreras, 47, was charged in May 2014 with sodomy by use of force, sexual penetration by force, and continuous sexual abuse of a child.
He took a plea deal from Fresno county prosecutors, pleaded no contest to one count of a lewd or lascivious act with a minor in February 2016, and was sentenced to three years in Wasco State Prison.
But the court record says he was given credits of 790 days, which would leave just 305 days to serve, or less than a year.
A Megan’s Law record for Contreras from three years ago says he was released from prison in 2016. There is no longer a record for him in the current Megan’s Law database.
Carlos Alexander Nahue, 48, was convicted of ‘continuous sexual abuse of a child’ in 2015. He was sentenced to just two days in an LA county jail and five years of probation
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Carlos Alexander Nahue, 48, was convicted of ‘continuous sexual abuse of a child’ in 2015. He was sentenced to just two days in an LA county jail and five years of probation
Thierry Armand Costa, 61, was convicted in 2014 of lewd acts with an under-14 and using a minor to make child porn, but was released from prison the same year, according to records
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Thierry Armand Costa, 61, was convicted in 2014 of lewd acts with an under-14 and using a minor to make child porn, but was released from prison the same year, according to records
Mountain View resident Thierry Armand Costa, 61, was convicted in 2014 of lewd acts with an under-14 and using a minor to make child porn, but was released from prison the same year, according to the database.
His Santa Clara County court records say he was sentenced for the crimes in November 2013 but had two probation motions heard in his case in 2015. He also had a hearing to remove his records from the courts in October 2019.
In 1996, the Clinton administration passed a law, named Megan’s Law after murder victim Megan Kanka (pictured), to require sex offenders’ information be published
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In 1996, the Clinton administration passed a law, named Megan’s Law after murder victim Megan Kanka (pictured), to require sex offenders’ information be published
According to his LinkedIn page, he worked as Vice President of Marketing for a software company in the Bay Area from 2010 until 2013, founded his own company GreenZone Security Software Inc between 2013 and 2015, and then got another VP Marketing role at ENENSYS Technologies in July 2015 – suggesting any prison time he served for the awful crimes was certainly over by 2015.
Like most states, California has a law requiring sex offenders to register their address with the Department of Justice, and to provide updates if they move house.
In 1996 the Clinton administration passed a law, named after a pedophile murder victim Megan Kanka, to require their information be published.
California’s Megan’s Law website, http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov, allows anyone to search for sex offenders, with details including name, age, residence, offenses, their mugshot, and the dates they were last convicted and released from prison.
DailyMail.com compiled the data of the 54,986 sex offenders who were listed on the website in July 2019 and analyzed the results.
It showed 41,794 (76%) committed offenses involving children.
DailyMail.com compared the published dates of these pedophiles’ convictions versus the year they were released from prison according to the Megan’s Law database.
The results showed that the average pedophile served two years and 10 months in prison.
LA attorney Dordulian said that was ‘surprisingly very low.’
‘In my days [in the LA DA’s office], we made every effort to get as long of a prison sentence as we could, because we knew that the minute they’re going to come out, they’re more likely to reoffend and another child’s gonna get harmed,’ he told DailyMail.com
The lawyer, who now represents victims of sexual abuse, pointed to policies backed by California Governor Gavin Newsom allowing for shortening of sentences to reduce the prison population.
‘With Newsom, they’ve passed a lot of legislation where they are allowing for resentencing, they’re allowing for people to come back and there’s a push to have less time spent in prison,’ Dordulian said.
‘That has been the push for the last at least five years: letting people out of prison much earlier than what their sentences were for.’
‘But these types of individuals, they’re not amenable to rehabilitation, and studies have shown that,’ he added. ‘They’re gonna harm another child.
‘It’s a very, very scary trend.’
Jesse Timmendequas was sentenced to death in 1997 for the murder of Megan Kanka, whose death inspired Megan’s Law but New Jersey abolished capital punishment 10 years later and he is now serving a life sentence without the possibility of parole
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Jesse Timmendequas was sentenced to death in 1997 for the murder of Megan Kanka, whose death inspired Megan’s Law but New Jersey abolished capital punishment 10 years later and he is now serving a life sentence without the possibility of parole
According the US Justice Department, sex offenders are at least four times more likely than other criminals to be rearrested for a sex crime.
Some of the offenses committed by pedophiles in the Megan’s Law database were misdemeanors such as indecent exposure or attempting to send lewd pictures to children, and convicts received less jail time.
But the average time served for some severe and heinous crimes was similarly short.
The most common offense in the database was ‘lewd or lascivious acts with a child under 14 years of age’, committed 19,441 times. Despite its severity, the average time served for this crime was just two years and 11 months.
And 7,152 pedophiles who committed this crime served less than a year.
Some 114 men who committed the even worse version of this offense, where the act against the under-14 child was ‘by force or fear’, ended up serving less than a year in prison, according to the data.
Others serving less than 12 months included 13 counts of aggravated sexual assault of an under-14 with intent to rape, three counts of kidnapping a child under 14 with intent to commit lewd or lascivious acts, five counts of assault with intent to rape an under-18, and two counts of pimping minors.
One child abuse prosecutor in the Los Angeles District Attorney’s Office told DailyMail.com the situation was ‘a disgrace’.
Deputy District Attorney Jon Hatami added that the problem of short prison time for pedophiles was getting worse, not better. He blamed Proposition 57, a 2016 bill allowing early parole for nonviolent felons which was supported by his boss, LA DA George Gascón.
‘Thousands of child victims are being denied justice and George Gascón and his group of radical prosecutors can care less,’ Hatami said.
‘The CDCR [California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation] is not even notifying the child victims and their families of these early releases. It’s shameful.
‘Furthermore, most of these sex offenders who are released early have not been rehabilitated whatsoever. This will clearly endanger our future generation of children and our entire community.
‘It’s a disgrace that the state of CA is not prioritizing the safety and well being of our children.’
Deputy DA Jon Hatami (pictured) blames Proposition 57, a 2016 bill allowing early parole for nonviolent felons which was supported by his boss, LA DA George Gascón
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Deputy DA Jon Hatami (pictured) blames Proposition 57, a 2016 bill allowing early parole for nonviolent felons which was supported by his boss, LA DA George Gascón
‘Thousands of child victims are being denied justice and George Gascón (pictured) and his group of radical prosecutors can care less,’ Hatami said. Gascon swept in during 2020 with a wave of justice reforms and now heads the nation’s largest DA office which files over 100,000 cases a year
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‘Thousands of child victims are being denied justice and George Gascón (pictured) and his group of radical prosecutors can care less,’ Hatami said. Gascon swept in during 2020 with a wave of justice reforms and now heads the nation’s largest DA office which files over 100,000 cases a year
DailyMail.com was unable to conduct the analysis for offenders added to the database since 2019, because the California Department of Justice has added digital blocks on its website to prevent new data being gathered and analyzed.
The department also refused to hand over a current copy of the database – which should be public under Megan’s Law – to DailyMail.com.
And after we contacted the CA DoJ asking about the shocking statistics, the search function was removed from the Megan’s Law website, which is administered by the department.
However, last week the website did show that there are currently 61,770 sex offenders listed across California’s 58 counties, an increase of 12% since 2019. It is unclear how many of them are pedophiles.
A spokesperson for the Attorney General said the issue was the responsibility of local DAs, courts, and state lawmakers.
‘Public safety is a top priority for the California Department of Justice,’ the spokesperson said in an emailed statement.
‘It’s generally up to courts — in conjunction with locally elected DAs — to ensure the applicable statutes and sentencing guidelines are applied to cases based on the specific facts and circumstances. It’s largely up to legislators to enact those statutes.
‘Our office actively works with law enforcement across the state to protect our state’s children and families, whether that’s through conducting sting operations targeting sexual predators, issuing guidance to reduce harm to sexually exploited youth, or launching Human Trafficking and Sexual Predator Apprehension Teams.
Unfortunately I think ‘Kevin” is just a fantasist with no links to anything he claims. I think he enjoyed the lurid reporting in the media. I think it titillated him, excited him, made him envy Keith and his harem. I think he wants that for himself. I mean, if Nicki and the girls are willing to service an ageing, hirsuit, square footed Orc like Keith, then he thinks he too is in with a chance of a shag.
It’s no conspiracy with Moira Penza. Her tactics, manipulation of evidence, and withholding of critical information (discovered just before trial) gave the defense no time to respond.
There is definite evidence tampering. Evidence protocols were not followed. Evidence was missing for days – hoe is this acceptable when you are dealing with the freedom on many people.
Moira Penza will lie, cheat, and manipulate to get her win and glory. She’ll be exposed. Karma for Moira.
The defense could have argued those points. But Keith wanted the trial as quickly as possible. That’s on him.
So is it “karma” for Keith to be imprisoned if that’s how you think karma works?
Frank,
Did you ever find Mark Vicente’s full victim impact statement at Nancy Salzman’s sentencing like I asked you to yet?
No.
Why?
What happened to it?
I think Vicente spoke by video, and, as I recall, the stenographer did not transcribe video presentations, just live victim statements.
The vast majority of them are missing and a pain in the ass to find on your website, including for Keith Raniere’s sentencing.
I got tired of waiting on you and I figured that you were just going to wind up doing your whole ignoring game like you usually do and decided to start looking elsewhere for it. Thankfully, Mark Vicente posted up his entire victim impact statements on his website.
So I don’t think what you’re saying is true. I could’ve sworn that I read it on your website before. I think you just misplaced it or something
Glad you found it.
Spot on! If Daniela‘s imprisonment is not the embodiment of sick abuse, then what is? To import someone from another country and leave them dangling with no money, no papers and no income is beyond cruel. Our core right as humans is to be free. Daniela‘s “room“ was not a luxury hotel suite, and even if it was, no one had the right to imprison her unless she committed a legal crime (not a crime against Keith’s alleged “feelings”).
Then, law enforcement would take care of it. Those who continue to support Raniere as a great man are sick. I fervently wish that Daniela had had the phone number of someone (me, for example) who would have driven right over there and picked her up. Then take her to a home with good food, safety, comfort, and freedom.
Keith Raniere can take his “self deprivation” doctrine and shove it up his fat ass. Watch him in the Vow II stuffing his face with a giant waffle, which of course was cooked for him by someone else. Bet he didn’t even do the dishes as a courtesy. Too busy creating a new society, replete with slaves.
In the old days people would say that “Nicki Clyne is full of Piss and Vinegar.”
piss and vinegar
noun
sometimes vulgar
: VIM, SPUNK
Thanks to Vanguard, she is full of semen.
“To say that Daniela “lived in a room” is a very disingenuous way of explaining what happened to her.”
Yes, I seem to remember another person saying something very similar in another interview when asked about Daniela’s incarceration. Something along the lines of “her parents just sent her to her room”.
No mention of the duration or anything. According to this person she was free to go whenever she liked. Nothing about the facts that she was extremely young, had no money, ID, qualifications, friends/family to stay with or help her, and that she was an illegal alien who could be arrested and deported, and consequently perhaps never allowed into the US again.
This person claimed Daniela was waited on hand foot, and given delicious meals three times a day like it was the Suite Royale at the Ritz. According to them, a lot more than she deserved for being a “prideful suppressive”.
Empathy was definitely not a strong trait in this person’s psychological profile.
Once again, the choice of words and the sentiments expressed are telling.
Would anyone like to hazard a guess at who this person was? Let’s just say there are no prizes for the correct answer.
On ‘The L Word’ they name checked Keith Raniere. It was in reference to a very minor character having a ‘mentor in prison’.
Later a newly introduced character (who’s an actress) tries to recruit one of the main characters into… Executive Success Program.
Nicki Clyne played a very small part on an episode of, ‘ The L word’.
Art imitates life?
Good Grief!
MK Art has depicted an actual leg amputation if you buy into this reenactment