By Kevin
Questions to Be Answered
Some questions for Frank and his readers to consider:
1 Why wasn’t Camila, the adult woman who performed oral sex on Nicole, arrested and prosecuted if this act constituted sex trafficking?
2 How did the prosecution prove that Allison Mack trafficked Nicole in exchange for her spot in Keith’s acting company, The Source, when no evidence in the form of a text message, e-mail, or recorded conversation exists proving that this happened?
Keith Raniere teaches Allison Mack how to act.
3 Allison, a professional actress who could have opened her own school. Could she not have returned to acting, conventions, or anything else?
4 According to Nicole’s testimony, Allison was surprised when she learned that Nicole and Keith had sexual contact. According to e-mails provided by Michelle Hatchette, Allison remained friends with Nicole after Nicole left the group.
5 E-mails in which Nicole requests to remain with The Source, and asks if Allison wants to meet her brother at an upcoming Pride event.
6 Why wasn’t India required to testify in this case, but allowed to read a victim impact statement, in which she was not under oath and not subjected to cross examination?
7 Can Marc Elliot and the Dossier Project women verify that Moira Penza’s legal team threatened to prosecute or punish them in some way if they testified or spoke out on behalf of their friends or the company’s programs?
Marc Elliot claims Moira Penza threatened him with prosecution if he delivered the speech advertised in the poster. He canceled the speech.
8 Did India have a pre-existing relationship with Keith before DOS and before meeting Allison?
9 Entries on this blog dating back five years indicate that India’s then boyfriend introduced her to Keith years before meeting Allison and being invited into DOS.
10 These entries are completely at odds with the story that’s been told for the last three years.
11 If Keith had sex with a girl when she was 15, why wasn’t he charged with statutory rape? Or was he?
12 Legal question, can a person, in this case Allison, be tied to that rape, or child pornography, using RICO if the rape/child porn happened in 2005, and Allison didn’t meet Keith until 2006?
13 If Nicole is a plaintiff in the civil suit, how many people who were present during the sex incident are listed as defendants?
14 How many of those present are co-plaintiffs?
15 How many defendants had nothing to do with it?
16 How many women did Sarah recruit into DOS?
17 How many were her direct slaves?
18 If Lauren was Sarah’s Master, and Sarah did all this because of the brand, and Lauren was the one who lied about the brand or neglected to tell Sarah about it, why does Sarah forgive Lauren?
Lauren Salzman
19 Why was Lauren removed from the civil suit?
20 Why didn’t Sarah take the stand during the criminal trial?
21 How many cult-like groups have Sarah and Mark belonged to?
Some of these questions are mine, but many were raised by those pesky bad women, those savvy villains, who make up The Dossier Project, who have the nerve (!) to stand up for themselves and their friends. Who have the nerve to be the tough, smart women that we supposedly celebrate…except when they go against society’s narrative.
And even if it turns out Keith is a bad guy, and if it turns out that they’re wrong about some things, why is it that the more they speak up, the more I believe them and trust them?
Because I’m a gullible idiot?
Because they’re telling me partially what I want to hear, which is Allison was railroaded?
Or is it because our media and government are full of shit, because Mark Vicente and Sarah Edmondson are full of shit, and these women who’ve lost their reputations and livelihoods, even if I disagree with them on some of their positions, genuinely believe in what they’re saying?
I pick door number three.
Moira Is Not My Type
Moira Penza and friends established a legal precedent where RICO can be used to tie you to crimes you did not commit, to crimes committed by a friend or associate before you ever met that person.
Moira Kim Penza posing with a poster of the Vow #2
Moira Penza, whose clients include Big Pharma, Big Tobacco, the NFL in its attempt to stiff brain damaged players, and who now supports Amber Heard.
Who prosecuted NXIVM as a sex trafficking ring, but failed to prosecute two of the company’s top lieutenants, who counts one of them as a friend, who failed to prosecute the woman who committed the actual sex act that she used to justify the sex trafficking charge.
Moira, who threatened people who tried to tell their stories if they did not support the prosecution. Who never once established Allison received any benefit, financial or otherwise, for having trafficked people. One of whom testified Allison was surprised to hear about the sex, and the other who may have had a sexual relationship with Raniere before having met Allison.
Allison Mack with the late Pamela Cafritz. When Allison’s slave Nicole transcribed about 5 hours of videos for Cafritz’s memorial, the DOJ charged Keith Raniere with forced labor.
Moira Penza, who believes a grown woman volunteering to transcribe a memorial service for a friend who died from cancer constitutes forced labor, but who would never have the courage to prosecute major companies that use child labor and slave labor to make their products.
Acknowledging that Moira is hot garbage, that she is a careerist, someone for sale to the highest bidder, is not an endorsement of Keith Raniere, ESP, DOS, or any of the people involved in this case.
It’s an acknowledgement that the world is more complex than “good guy vs bad guy.”
Wake up Aristotle. Wake up Frank Report readers. You all act like you’re in a cult or something.
There’s no gold star to be won for supporting people who you know abuse their positions.
Danielle Is My Type
There are videos of Danielle Roberts online in which she tells her side of the DOS story. She never endorses anything violent or abusive.
Her side of things is that she helped with the branding process with the understanding that everyone had given consent.
She also explains why she became a doctor, that she wanted to treat and heal underlying causes of medical problems, not just symptoms.
It’s very clear from listening to her for even just 10 minutes that this is a kind-hearted person who meant no harm.
NXIVM Men Treated Unfairly
I also defend Marc Elliot, Damon Brink, and men associated with NXIVM who I believe were unfairly stigmatized.
Keith knew from the start he has to control people to fulfill his needs. Thats because he is a psychopath in the absolute true sense of the word.
lack of compassion or empathy for anyone at all, hence( as one small, yet huge example) Pam being left lying in her own drying and prolific excrement while Albany burned and Keith ate eggs.
Im absolutely sure that right from the start Keith did what he has always done: intuit, observe and then manipulate absolutely everyone for his own needs. The psychopath will push the limits and boundaries of others to see how far he can go and how much he can get, hence a nice slow build up to DOS. He was truly a master at this and there is no denying that, right up until someones boundary alert went off. He also knew this would happen, and having unlimited resources to litigate, he did ad infinitum. because: his incredibly fragile ego and sense of his own self importance/ narcissism demanded it. It really is that simple.
Poor Kevin, he must be branded, too.
Wait Suneel has a blog.
Kevin, are you trying to convince an audience or yourself?
“even if it turns out Keith is a bad guy”. Are you joking!
He has been tried by a jury of his peers and convicted and sentenced.
HE IS A BAD GUY!
Anonymous 12:48-
Exactly!
Fake Kevin.
Do you honestly believe that calling a human being hot garbage is going to win people over?
Especially when you’re constantly preaching that the remaining Keith loyalists should be treated better and with more respect?
Do you honestly believe belittling people who have come to form a different perspective than you will persuade them?
Fake Kevin, you seem increasingly desperate and deranged. There is an under current of fear mongering as well.
The average citizen does not have to worry about being charged in a RICO case. Prosecutors aren’t looking to waste valuable court time and resources prosecuting innocent people as part of a criminal racketeering Enterprise.
Look no further than your own cult and the criminal activity so many members engaged in – most got a pass. Including you, Nicki Clyne.
It is crystal clear that immigration fraud was committed. And yet no one went after Nicki for that crime. Nicki Clyne remains in the country fraudulently exercising her free speech and freedom to act like a complete jackass.
That also really undermines this concept that Moira Penza was threatening everybody. Because law enforcement had legitimate cause and ability to bring charges against so many more Nxivm cult people than they actually did
well said
What “some things” does the Dossier Project say they got wrong?
Nicki Clyne and co sounds exactly like this.
Thats cos thats who it is brother!
Kevie-
Criminal court conventions and procedures were followed throughout this case.
Nothing nefarious took place.
If you don’t like the laws too bad. Stop acting like a crazy bitch
Miss Hatchette.
Ok, which DOS member are you? You sound exactly like Nicki Clyne or Michelle Hatchette.
Did not read any of this BS Kevin Chakravorty is posting. He can use his own blog for his culty craziness. Maybe a good ass to clean will make him see straight.
Ha ha. No one read Suneel’s blog. It’s gratifying to know that people see through this fake Kevin persona. It is much harder to disguise writing than people are aware. And the more you write the more obvious it becomes that’s why it was cool to just let fake Kevin vent for a while it’s interesting if you look at the progression of Kevin’s writing as well. Also during points of frustration and stress. How things change. The huge gaps where fake Kevin who was responding in real time practically retreats to come up with quite unbelievable explanations for really obvious mistakes and tells Within both the timeline and conflicting misinformation that has been put out by fake Kevin. There are points where fake Kevin drops the pretend niceties completely. These markers correlate to other things that are going on for fake Kevin and stressors. Eventually may take the time to intellectually show the patterns in the writing. But it’s best to go with ones Instinct in these matters anyway. People usually intuitively know when the writing voice and style and syntax match up to another person. And they’re usually right.
Couldn’t even watch the teaching acting video ..
After hearing K.R. describing how they intended to get women, their « slaves » to beg to be branded MASTER in the infamous audio recording, I just feel absolute disdain for him.
In the acting advice video: we see Alison Mack squirming around in her seat, insecurely babbling about acting, asking this creepy mothball-leach for acting advice.
Can already see how brainwashed Mack was. She looked at him like she knew he was scrutinizing her thought patterns and opinions. Mack was so freakin apologetic. She’s the actor and yet she takes his opinion than her own. That’s kind of like a woman taking advice from a tranny on the feminine menstruel cycle.
Keith’s eyes were hissing venom as she pleased with him for approval.
Raniere reminds me of professors I’ve had in the past.
These pests are in all walks of life.
If anyone makes makes us feel insecure, in order to teach us, rather than encouraging us, probably means that they need a little bit of raid.
totally agree . In the early years of this blog there was a comment that Frank came to post, this was made by a man who had experience with the techniques used by cults and who took a class in NIVXM and saw it for what it was “a gigantic experiment in hypnotic induction” to believe that people who were involved in crimes are not mentally screwed is naive, but above all it denies the power of cults and their techniques to mentally and emotionally entangle people, not to mention that the fact that in the US they abound says something about how easy it is to fall into them.
Yeah it’s spooky magical witchcraft that all cult leaders use from the same playbook.
Between this and Erasend, I hope you get all the answers you’re looking for “Kevin”:
1. Because Raniere effectively raped 2 women at the same time without physically touching either one of them. For him, it was his greatest ever achievement.
2. Witness testimony that the Jury believed.
3. If was never in a true story.
4. Were these emails provided as evidence?
5. As above.
6. Why did the defense not subpoena India?
7. They can’t, but most certainly would if they could.
8. Unlikely, but who cares?
9. So what?
10. How’s that?
11. He also had sex with a 12-year-old but the Statute of Limitations had been exceeded.
12. Allison wasn’t charged with that so the question is pointless.
13. One – KAR
14. One – Camile (she was raped by Raniere too) – see 1 above
15. Immaterial
16. 0?
17. 0?
18. Because she became a prosecution witness.
19. As above
20. Because the prosecution did not request her to.
21. Why don’t you ask them?
“why is it that the more they (DOSheep Project) speak up, the more I believe them and trust them?” Because you’re Nicki Clyne
Rhiannon WAS willing to testify in the criminal case against Keith Raniere.
Rhiannon met with prosecutors.
Rh’annon’s participation was blocked by Keith Alan Raniere’s defense team.
Frank reported on the court filing at the time and anyone who wants to can look it up.
The fact that Rhiannon was willing to put herself on the stand even though the statute of limitations had run out on the crimes Keith committed against her when she was just a child and be subject to brutal cross-examination and that all the pre-interviewing of the prosecutors found Rhiannon to be completely credible are very significant points.
It would have been very prejudicial but still wish that Rihanna got a chance to tell her horrible sexual abuse story under oath and on the stand. And finally get a chance to look that child sexual predator Keith right in the eyes from a place of empowerment as an adult woman.
If there was any chance that Rhiannon was lying it probably would have benefited the defense to have her called because that would have blown up in the prosecution’s face and then would serve to discredit much of what they presented in the criminal case as a whole.
It seems certain that Rhiannon had a very believable consistent story that would have held up to great scrutiny and may have even had corroborating evidence.
Rihanna did go to the police. So the prosecution could have had the paperwork from back then included in the trial .
The authorities back then wanted this child to wear a wire and be in contact – close dangerous contact -with her longtime sexual abuser. It’s ludicrous.
Every part of the system in that region failed Rhiannon.. No wonder she still wanted to get her day in court and at least contribute to bringing Vanguard the child predator to justice.
What Keith did to that child is tragic disgusting and Evil
Kevin’s questions are in such bad faith, particularly since some of them he can answer for himself by doing a little digging. Some of the questions do not even make sense to me. India and Sarah did not testify at trial because the prosecution did not need them to prove their case; same with Cami. Why is this a problem for Kevin? I think it’s obvious why Cami was not prosecuted. Does Kevin think the right thing in this instance is to prosecute a woman who was turned into a criminal by the man who abused her as a child? The defense did not seem to think Cami was useful to them either, or why would they not have called her to the stand to declare that Keith Raniere never touched her until she was 18 years old and did not take photos of her?
” Did India have a pre-existing relationship with Keith before DOS and before meeting Allison?…Why wasn’t India required to testify in this case, but allowed to read a victim impact statement, in which she was not under oath and not subjected to cross examination?”
What difference does it make? In exchange for her cooperation, India was not prosecuted for her involvement. Same with Mark Vicente. Same with Lauren Salzman. The prosecution did not need India to testify. India wrote a whole book in which she maps out her side of things, including how her relationship with Keith evolved. She also has talked about cooperating with the FBI for months. Maybe Kevin should read it. Sarah also wrote a book in which she talked about how many slaves she had (I think 3).
“Can Marc Elliot and the Dossier Project women verify that Moira Penza’s legal team threatened to prosecute or punish them in some way if they testified or spoke out on behalf of their friends or the company’s programs?” There is no proof beyond what the loyalists have stated.
“Moira, who threatened people who tried to tell their stories if they did not support the prosecution. Who never once established Allison received any benefit, financial or otherwise, for having trafficked people. One of whom testified Allison was surprised to hear about the sex, and the other who may have had a sexual relationship with Raniere before having met Allison.” It’s clear that Moira Penza and the rest of the prosecution team established something or Keith Raniere would not have been convicted of all charges by a jury. Kevin’s attitude towards Moira Penza is truly bizarre. She is a prosecutor who did her job and won her case, simple as that. There is no actual proof that Moira Penza did anything beyond prove the charges against Keith Raniere to a jury. If there was reasonable doubt, the jury would not have convicted him. They also did not have to convict him on ALL of the charges.
Why is it important to know how many cult-like groups Sarah and Mark have belonged to? Or is this question an attempt to smear them in some way?
Why does Kevin think “Marc Elliot, Damon Brink, and men associated with NXIVM” are unfairly stigmatized? If the stigma is because these men publicly support someone convicted of a series of crimes why is that unfair?
Good post. Such bad faithed shit from Kevin.
Nutjob said:
I’m surprised at this answer of yours, Nutjob.
Bad faith?
How so, exactly?
Alanzo
Sleight of hand and misdirection.
“He” uses everything he can find to argue multiple points. However, he plays dumb on all negative things Raniere has done. Kevin tries to get people (like me and you) on his side by making solid arguments in defense of the Danielles and Allisons. While multiple points are being made by Kevin, there is really only one thing he wants. Free Vanguard.
The just posted article by Suzanne calls it out and puts a bow on it.
In good faith, Alonzo…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_faith_(existentialism)
Kevin:
You are kidding yourself if you are suggesting you are unbiased.
Everyone is biased to some degree or other.
Shadow State 1958
Oh yes, “Kevin” is well aware that truth is subjective to every individual.
Isn’t that what Schopenhauer believed and later Nietzsche developed, eh Kev?
“Even if it turns out Keith is a bad guy”
Sorry, but you dumb, Kevin. Hard not to be rude to your dumbass when you type disrespectful garbage like that.
Everything Kevin does is misdirection and an attempt to change the narrative away from sick Raniere.
https://www.childstarlets.com/lobby/bios/allison_mack.html
https://www.childstarlets.com/captures/indexa.html#allison_mack
22. Where can one unload a bunch of goofy colored sashes?
Lol Snorlax
23. How much can I get for those dick pix sent to Kreuk at Smallville?
Love Snorlax
24. How does Keith know the sizes of our penises?
Raniere explained that to Camila in a text and to Nice Guy in person as I recall.
Hold on.
Nice Guy was in the cult?
A-hahahahaha!
omg that’s rich! For how long? How much money did he spend?
A-hahahahahahahaha!
Alanzo
It’s all there in the Cami texts. Keith explained how he knew some very personal things about some gentlemen, including if I err not Nice Guy. But ask him.
Alanzo-
Frank didn’t dox me. I’ve never been a member of NXIVM.
***
Why do you think I hate cults so much?
25. When Kieth and the SOP boys have a circle-jerk which NX-er woman is kneeling in the center for inspiration?
Allie Wack
Nikki
Kristin K
Clare
Kieth in drag
LFMO
Kevin…Kev…Kevy…Kevster…Get a life! All these shit bags are guilty regardless of how many stupid questions you ask yourself.
Here’s some questions:
Vanguard seems really good at counting shit streaks.
How many fecal smears were on and around Pam Cafrirz while Keith left her dying in her own waste so that he could eat eggs and chat leisurely with Nancy?
Please divide the amount of human refuse by the number of hours Keith ignored his beloved Pam’s humiliating and desperate situation.
Bonus question:
Which took Nancy Salzman longer:
Cleaning up Keith’s long-term live in girlfriend’s poop for him or doing Keith’s breakfast dishes while Keith relaxed on Nancy’s couch?
LOL. Kevin thinks he’s a lawyer now. I have a question: why wasn’t Kevin part of the lawyer team for Keith Raniere and defended him when it mattered?
I’ll tell you why. Because none of these deadenders (of which Kevin is one) could even show reasonable doubt in a court of law. The case of the prosecution was literally soaked with evidence against their master. Like the latter, who talked a lot of bullshit in his life, they would rather just throw the mud of doubt in the “court” of public opinion via the medium of the media (social or otherwise), the same ones they have repeatedly criticized for convicting their master of hate, and hope it sticks. They would rather have something superficially look like something is true or such and such happened without having to actually prove it under the rigor of evidence required by the judicial system.
https://celebmasta.com/allison-mack/
https://celebsunmasked.com/allison-mack-nude/
Moira Penza is way hotter and doable than any of the washed up former or current NXIVM adherents.
Kevin,
Its a weird mix of asking questions and dropping statements, you leave us with.
If you stretch out the timeline and start at the beginning, you should also end up with the preliminary conclusion that, Keith and his inner circle, fucked up big time.
Especially when DOS came in to play, things could only end up disastrous. Thats just simple logica.
You can see how out of touch with reality that specific group of women, and Keith where, and still are.For example:
Bringing in a married women like Sarah, and branding her with the initials of another man, next to her vagina, was, in regard of the secretive nature of DOS, a kind of stupid decision.
Then we have the whole collateral business they came up with.
Did non of them, including the smartest and most ethical person on this planet considered that, this is what criminal organisation do, when they blackmail, individual?
There is a possibility that NXIVM started as something positive. All just went sideways when the weird things started becoming “normal” behaviour.
Like calling people: vanguard or prefect. Bowing in front of pictures of these people. Celebrating “vanguard’s” birthdays for god knows how long.
Keith Using DOS as his own personal harem.
I have a analogy for Kevin. You’re a child. You’re parents are divorced. And you live with your mother and sister. Mother gets a new boyfriend.
After a while the boyfriend stops sleeping with mother, and starts having sex with the daughter. Your sister. How would you describe the behaviour of the boyfriend?
We can now look back on dozens of examples of this kind of “ethical” behaviour.
Keith probably has, or developed a god complex. Add that to the acces he got over the Bronfman money. And a disaster was born.
Another infantile mistake Keith and DOS made was, meddling between India and her mother. Yet another example of the god complex, way of thinking.
By the way the way. You only have to look what they’ve tried to do to Susan Done, to understand how ethical nxivm really was.
Take a honest close look at DOS. Its only purpose was to have sex with as many as women possible. To prevent that the real motives why DOS exists are “broadcasted” which would, raise a lot of questions. You blackmail the participant into silence. A practice as old as humanity.
Executed by Mack & Co. Mack who thought that by blackmailing her sisters, they would end up with a “sisterhood” that could change the world. The daily reality was, that most slaves where to busy with rubbing there masters feet. Doing groceries. And getting spanked (not necessarily in this order🤪), to even think about changing the planet.
Kevin i can go on for hours with examples and questions like this.
What i like to know is: what do think would have happened when Keith and DOS would have had the opportunity to go on for decades?
RE photo with caption “Moira Kim Penza poses with a poster of Vow #2”.
Image this and all other nice looking photos much larger if image resolution allows. I love beautiful photos. So why so small?
right click on it, and open in a new tab
1 Why wasn’t Camila, the adult woman who performed oral sex on Nicole, arrested and prosecuted if this act constituted sex trafficking?
So Kevin just gave away he is an idiot. The sex trafficking was not for oral sex. Someone with more knowledge of the details can correct me but I believe it was for tricking Camila to come from Mexico to US illegally, trapping her here, for essentially the purpose of providing sex. Prosecution just used all of Camila’s history with Keith as a way to drive hatred into the jury for Keith.
2 How did the prosecution prove that Allison Mack trafficked Nicole in exchange for her spot in Keith’s acting company, The Source, when no evidence in the form of a text message, e-mail, or recorded conversation exists proving that this happened?
Again your an idiot. Mack participated in helping get moving the ladies from one country to another. The participation, even as something as driving the car, is enough. Planning more so which is likely what she did considering her position. As for proving? She confessed. It was part of her agreement to do that. Ask her what evidence they have.
3 Allison, a professional actress who could have opened her own school. Could she not have returned to acting, conventions, or anything else?
Yes, she probably still could. Fans are a forgiving bunch. There will be some haters but most will just do the “Take my money” for pictures and signatures. Ask her why she chose not to stick with acting community or rejoin the convention circuit. Nicki Clyne could do but her journey would be harder because she ultimately thinks everything she has and continues to do is right and just. Also her journey down the right wing rabbit hole doesn’t help (Hollywood and many convention fans tend to be liberal). If Mack does do the convention circuit, probably best she stay away from panels until she is ready to answer NXIVM questions. Sure its a panel on Smallville but always those that go off topic for attention.
4 According to Nicole’s testimony, Allison was surprised when she learned that Nicole and Keith had sexual contact. According to e-mails provided by Michelle Hatchette, Allison remained friends with Nicole after Nicole left the group.
Where is the question here? Ask Allison why she stayed friends. Guessing she liked Nicole and by then Keith fucking around was so normal to her that she had long stopped being jealous of it.
5 E-mails in which Nicole requests to remain with The Source, and asks if Allison wants to meet her brother at an upcoming Pride event.
This isn’t a question. Not even sure what trying to say here. (Side note: What is “The Source”. First time heard of that.)
6 Why wasn’t India required to testify in this case, but allowed to read a victim impact statement, in which she was not under oath and not subjected to cross examination?
Ask the prosecution, they decided they didn’t want her to testify. Considering India participated in some of the events, was effectively last NXIVM member standing before her mother saved her ass from possible charges, I suspect both sides came to the same conclusion – calling her was to risky. Neither side knew if she would damage their case or help it and decided it wasn’t a risk worth taking.
7 Can Marc Elliot and the Dossier Project women verify that Moira Penza’s legal team threatened to prosecute or punish them in some way if they testified or spoke out on behalf of their friends or the company’s programs?
Verify? Doubt it, they wouldn’t be allowed to record the conversation. Threatened? Yeah probably. It is the equivilant of the hammer you find in any tool chest. I don’t doubt they where threatened. I would be shocked if they said they were not. Do X or Y will happen. Its a tool parents even use. Bosses too. Its so normal that its like complaining the sun came up.
8 Did India have a pre-existing relationship with Keith before DOS and before meeting Allison?
Beats me. Her defense/documentary indicates no but also in her best interests to spin things so she was pushed into Keith’s orbit rather than admit she wanted and seeked to be in it.
9 Entries on this blog dating back five years indicate that India’s then boyfriend introduced her to Keith years before meeting Allison and being invited into DOS.
Do you know what a question is? This isn’t one. I don’t recall time table but my understanding is she was with NXIVM a good 10 or so years. DOS was the final 2 or so years of it. There is a difference from interacting with Keith as part of the non-sex part of the cult and Allison recruiting her to join the sex part of the cult. India is saying the sex part was pushed by Allison.
10 These entries are completely at odds with the story that’s been told for the last three years.
Seriously, how did you past basic English in school.
11 If Keith had sex with a girl when she was 15, why wasn’t he charged with statutory rape? Or was he?
Issue of jurisdiction. The statutory rape charge isn’t something federal. Either the city (blanking on name) or the state would have to do that. Since he already has a life sentence, there is no point in it. The state might have file charges if the Feds lost the case but that would have been highly reliant on Camila’s cooperation which at the time was iffy at best (also she was in Mexico).
12 Legal question, can a person, in this case Allison, be tied to that rape, or child pornography, using RICO if the rape/child porn happened in 2005, and Allison didn’t meet Keith until 2006?
No. They could try I guess but why bother? She was never the target, she was the means to get the head of the snake.
13 If Nicole is a plaintiff in the civil suit, how many people who were present during the sex incident are listed as defendants?
Don’t know. But the Edmondson defense (or whatever Frank called) it, does highlight a problem of plaintiffs in the case also being the same as the ones that engaged in the behavior they are suing for. It will make an actual trial rather ugly which is why many of thing a settlement is almost a guarantee.
14 How many of those present are co-plaintiffs?
Beats me.
15 How many defendants had nothing to do with it?
I think a few dozen? My guesstimate is about half are those that participated in the “business” part of NXIVM and feel ripped off by it. Not the DOS or culty part. My take is there are 4 sections to the civil suit: 1) Camila 2) DOS 3) NXIVM cult 4) NXIVM courses. #1 and #2 being used as all the leverage to get some additional money for 3 and 4.
16 How many women did Sarah recruit into DOS?
Beats me and why the Edmondson defense for the Bronfman’s will be fascinating to see unfold.
17 How many were her direct slaves?
Beats me and why the Edmondson defense for the Bronfman’s will be fascinating to see unfold.
18 If Lauren was Sarah’s Master, and Sarah did all this because of the brand, and Lauren was the one who lied about the brand or neglected to tell Sarah about it, why does Sarah forgive Lauren?
Beats me. Have to ask Sarah. Sure by now its in her book or podcast or some junk.
19 Why was Lauren removed from the civil suit?
Beats me, ask the lawyer.
20 Why didn’t Sarah take the stand during the criminal trial?
She didn’t? Ask the prosecution but suspect it is India problem on steroids. Sarah participated in all aspects of NXIVM (except stuff involving those Camila and her sisters). She really muddies the waters for everyone, on all sides, and little of it in a helpful way.
21 How many cult-like groups have Sarah and Mark belonged to?
Interviews do suggest that NXIVM wasn’t their first stop on the cult train. I doubt NXIVM will be their last. There seems to be a history of them wanting to be “important” and joining groups to do that. Exact number? Beats me but I strongly suspect the number is higher then 1.
Your take on Moira in reflection to the case is simplistic at best. Not going to get into it cause why bother. As for Danielle Roberts, yeah I agree. She got screwed. I don’t think her license should have been taken away. That was political BS. Normally doctors basically have to incompetently murder a few patients before that happens. Her notoriety is what caused that to happen. She all but guaranteed it by making sure she was a significant part of the whole NXIVM saga for the cameras and online instead of a far background like 99% of the participants. She should have been a trivia question that few could answer because the who did the actual branding was not really that important. Not compared to everything else around that “ritual” or whatever call it that Keith and Allison created. Yep swung it back to your crush Mack’s participation in creating all of that. Passive participation is still participation and she was there from its very creation.
Do you really believe fighting your futile battles here will free your genius savior from serving his prison sentence? It won’t.
Re: 21:
People who join groups that turn out to become cults, including MLMs, are typically seekers. They are looking for answers not necessarily importance. They tend to join three of these groups, hoping that the next one will be better, before they finally wake up. As someone who is not a “joiner” by nature I don’t understand the behavior, but it seems to be a pattern among people who are looking for their higher calling.
The anonymous fucktard “Erasend” wrote:
Looks like you’ve exposed yourself for who you really are here on the Frank Report, just as the legal fraud “KR Claviger” did earlier.
Where has “KR Claviger” been, by the way?
I’m writing a detailed response to your post, “Erasend” – but not here.
It’ll appear on AlanzosBlog.com, where the facts of the NXIVM case actually belong.
Watch for it.
Alanzo
Quit plugging your own asshole Allen. Whod wanna read your stoner shit anyway? As for Claviger why you not ask Frank that?
The hypocritical anonymous fucktard “Erasend” wrote:
No comment.
Alanzo
To the little girl in the sandbox who bopped KR on the head with a bucket, Thank You!
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Oh fuck off with your fake questions.
You’ve never answered how you were privy to phone calls between Nicki Clyne’s mom and Sarah Edmonson. Or Kristen Krueck’s family a decade after you allegedly had any contact with her.
Or a dozen other bullshit claims you’ve made “Kevin”.
Second that