Nicki Clyne: Raniere Wouldn’t Rape Girl; FBI Cheating Makes Most Sense

Nicki Clyne has made it clear that she does not believe Keith Raniere raped Camila when she was 15. She does not believe he took her photos at that age. She believes Raniere is innocent of all crimes he was charged with.

And it’s on the record in a video interview with the Daily Mail, which the video as part of their story:

EXCLUSIVE: NXIVM founder Keith Raniere’s legal team accuse FBI of bungling procedures and modifying photo evidence to ‘frame’ cult leader for child porn, claiming forensics report shows images were deliberately backdated or altered on PHOTOSHOP

I wish to thank Mr. Allen Stanfield, whom some readers know as Alanzo, for transcribing the video and posting it on his website.

I have edited the transcript slightly for clarity, and added photos, so FR readers can better understand Clyne’s position.

You can see the entire video here:

By Nicki Clyne

I started my career as an actor. Some people may know me from the TV show Battlestar Galactica.

I got involved with Executive Success Programs, which is the coaching program that most people conflate with Nxivm.

There were different companies and programs, and people just called it Nxivm.

I started taking classes in 2005 and loved the tools, the program, became a coach, and continued my involvement for about 15 years.

And I just loved it. I found a lot of improvement in my life internally, as well as externally in relationships and things like that.

And I loved the community.

So it’s been a tragedy for me personally to watch the community be destroyed in the way it has through the media and the court system.

I was pretty much at the center of it all, as close as possible to the center, while still able to be here and speak to you, and I’m grateful for that.

I also see it as a huge responsibility to get the truth out and expose the injustices that occurred in this case.

My understanding is that there are many circumstantial factors that are suspicious, which are not dispositive. But they point to something more going on here.

Then there are the technical findings, which have been confirmed by multiple forensic experts, one of them 20 years in the FBI.

The expert is Dr. J. Richard Kiper, a  top former FBI cyber forensics expert.

Not only did he train the forensic FBI agents, he also trained the trainers of them. He’s extremely well versed not only in the digital and forensic aspects, but also in FBI protocols about how you handle this type of evidence.

So it’s been a steep learning curve for me.

First of all, just understanding how this whole process works. So someone is indicted and investigated. That has been an education.

I’m grateful for it, but I think my mom would have rather I went to law school, but I learned a lot nonetheless.

And, it’s very evident, even for someone like me, that things were not handled properly. The chain of custody was broken.

I think it’s important for people to understand that this evidence was the only digital hard evidence in the entire case. All the other charges rested on testimony and perception of intent. And why things were being done.

But this evidence is the only thing that you can’t argue.

Like there’s no different side to photos of an allegedly underage woman on a hard drive, which is what they use to convict Keith Ranierie of child pornography.

I think the importance of the evidence can’t be underestimated, as well as the inflammatory nature of it.

Even though there was all this salaciousness in the media before this charge was brought, there was still room to look at, “okay, what happened here? Are these people’s stories consistent with reality, and with evidence?”

But once the so-called child pornography evidence came into play, all the codefendants took plea deals.

The six NXIVM defendants, Upper Row: Kathy Russell, Keith Raniere, Nancy Salzman, LowerAllison Mack, Lauren Salzman, Clare Bronfman. All of them, but Raniere, took plea deals shortly after the FBI made an accidental discovery of child porn on a hard drive the FBI alleged came from his library. The accidental discovery was made 11 months after they seized the hard drive. The FBI admitted the child pron was accidentally discovered, because it was outside the search warrant’s scope.  

And that’s when there was no defending Keith Raniere, like, “you just can’t possibly defend that,” and I certainly wouldn’t defend it.

When I heard about those allegations, I had already been introduced to this idea that the prosecution was dead set on winning at all costs.

And the truth was less than secondary. I had friends who had gone in to take proffer sessions, who were threatened and bullied for not agreeing with the prosecution’s narrative.

I already didn’t feel trusting of everything they put forth.

I also had 15 years experience knowing the man accused of these things, and it didn’t add up. It didn’t make sense to me with everything I knew about him.

Nicki does not believe that having sex with a 15 year old girl comports with the man she knows Keith Raniere [l] to be.  Raniere is shown with the Dalai Lama in 2009.

I’m a very rational human being. Obviously, it made me question things. And so, I guess, in short, I really didn’t know what to think.

There was part of me that hoped it wasn’t true. And I didn’t put it past the government to potentially put something forward that wasn’t true, because I’d seen them do that.

I’d seen them say things about my friends or events that I was present for that weren’t true. At the same time, obviously, if it was true, that was problematic.

What I feel grateful for in my own journey, although it was difficult, is that I committed to reserve making any major judgments or conclusions until further down the line when I could get more information.

And now we have that information.

And it makes a lot more sense to me now, although it’s damning on the justice system, and for the FBI.

In this process, I’ve come to know many more people who’ve been prosecuted through the federal system. Some of them are in prison.  Some are out of prison now.

And the most disappointing thing to me is that while our case is unique, this process of injustice is not unique in this country.

And that’s why I feel committed to exposing this and sending a message to prosecutors, FBI agents, and anyone in law enforcement that this is unacceptable, and that we as citizens need to take it seriously.

Even, and especially, when it’s someone who’s hated.

 

While Clyne readily acknowledges that many hate Keith Raniere, she sees him in an entirely different light. She sees a gentle, loving leader of a community now destroyed, and he, unjustly imprisoned.

I feel purposeful, even when it’s very difficult and it’s been difficult. I’ve had to learn to develop a thick skin, which is not natural for me, but I feel it’s important.

I think the tampering is just the tip of the iceberg. I think when people start to understand what was shown in court to justify the other charges, the whole thing will begin to unravel.

And, you know, it’s difficult because these charges, these crimes of forced labor and sex trafficking, are serious and harmful, and people who commit these crimes should be held accountable.

The sex trafficking victim, known only as Nicole at the trial, was laid on this table, nude and blindfolded. Camila entered and performed oral sex on her. Raniere watched. This was determined to be sex trafficking. Raniere got 40 years of his 120 year sentence for that incident.

But I believe in due process. I believe in meeting the actual evidence to support convicting someone of those crimes, not just hearsay, not bending things, or prejudicing a jury so much towards the defendant that they don’t even know what’s needed to qualify as sex trafficking.

They just know this is a bad person.

That’s what I believe happened in this case, and I would implore any journalist or anyone wanting to understand the case better to look at what they used to justify those charges.

In my opinion, it’s dangerous. The precedent set is dangerous for what can be classified as sex trafficking. And someone can be sent to prison for 40 years, based on one person’s testimony about one event they consented to.

I mean, there are many things I would do differently. Knowing what I know now. I don’t know if I regret anything in the sense that I did the best I could. I did it all with the best of intentions.

I didn’t fully understand how the world worked, and how powerful certain people and tools can be if they’re set out to destroy something or someone. I think I was very naive.

People say things to me, like “what it’s like to be in a cult?” or tell me what Nxivm was accused of. I know I traveled all the time. I kept close relationships with friends all over the place, and had much better relationships with my family.

My experience was that I had a better tool set to make decisions that were more in line with my values.

So in that sense, I don’t have regrets. I regret this has caused so much damage. I think people have been hurt. And it’s really sad, tragic, and painful, because people I thought were my friends for life have taken a different path, and I may never speak to them again. And that pains me deeply.

Kristin Kreuk, Sarah Edmondson and Nicki Clyne were once close friends.

I don’t know what I could have done to avoid that. So that might take deeper reflection.

But I certainly regret that this happened in the way it did.

My hope with exposing this issue with the tampering and getting it into the public is that it can create enough attention that it puts pressure on the court to either make a ruling or investigate it, or ideally both.

Because I think one way they could address it is by granting the appeal, you know, and it all kind of just goes away.

But really, we’d like to get to the bottom of this, because whoever did this is still working in the office and potentially doing criminal things to convict more people. So I think it should be investigated. I think the public deserves answers, and I hope enough people see this as problematic that they call for it, and I think the media is a big part of that.

Ideally, the FBI or the DOJ, whoever chooses to respond publicly, has a wonderful opportunity to say “we won’t stand for this,” and “we will investigate and find out how this happened, and make sure it never happens again.”

I don’t think Keith Raniere is guilty of any of the crimes he was convicted of in court. I think he’s guilty of social crimes. I think people misunderstand who he is, how he’s chosen to live his life, and why.

But even the ways in which he might lead, what people might call an alternative lifestyle – it’s not illegal.”

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  • Frank
    I am a family member of Kris Snyder. It is funny that it is mentioned that Rainere would NOT rape a girl. He said “he could alleviate them from being gay”. That is seduction and rape. Am I correct?
    You seduce someone and it is NOT consensual – it is RAPE. NO questions.
    Why is it people are still fighting for this monster ? Why ?

  • In the words of the late Ben Stern: “Shut up and sit down, you moron!”

    Good lord, doesn’t this woman know a different tune that she can sing? 🎵 Second verse….same at the first.🎵 How is it that five brainwashed deadenders are the only ones who see it differently than the rest of the NXIVM “community” who had the better judgment to open their eyes and see the truth.

  • If Nicki Clyne and other dead Enders truly believe that Camilla lied they would not attack Moira. Or law enforcement.

    Their job is to investigate and prosecute people who are guilty of sexually exploiting children.

    If they did not investigate and prosecute for those crimes they would be derelict in their Duty.

    So it doesn’t make sense to accuse Camilla of lying about being a victim of the pedophile Keith. But then to also accuse law enforcement and the prosecutor of lying about it.

    Again. If someone came forward and said, “This sexual abuse happened to me as a child” it is law enforcement and prosecutors job and moral, obligation, legal and ethical obligation to investigate the crime.

    And if evidence is found to prosecute the sexual crime against a child.

    If law enforcement finds child pornography they MUST investigate and prosecutors MUST prosecute.

  • It’s hard to believe that Nicki Clyne, a woman who SEEMS to be intelligent, still believes that Keith Raniere is innocent of everything that he’s been convicted of because it’s so ridiculous. It’s absurd. It’s insulting to anyone who knows anything about NXIVM. Taking out the child pornography piece – even though the defense never said KR did not take the child porn, they said the images were too old to be considered, and even though Camila at sentencing said that KR took photos of her at 15 and also had sex with her, and there are text messages, and there’s evidence about the appendix scar – Keith Raniere was convicted of several other crimes.

    What does Nicki have to say about the identity theft? Keith Raniere was convicted of that, too, in reference to several people.

    What about the conspiracy to alter records for use in an official proceeding? Convicted.

    What about the sex trafficking of Nicole, the attempted sex trafficking of Jay and the trafficking and forced labor of Daniela? He was convicted of all these things by a jury who were presented with evidence – more than the “hard drive” thing – at trial.

    Also, do the former DOS members actually believe that collateral is NOT blackmail? Nicki Clyne is lucky she was not targeted for prosecution as a first-line DOS member. Why collect it if it was not meant to ever be released? Also, I don’t really get the logic: “I love you so much, you’re my bestie and I want to help you grow, but I don’t trust you and probably you can’t trust yourself because wouldn’t you agree that women are not trust-worthy? Why don’t you hand over some naked photos, some fake or true confessions, and maybe the deed to your house? Oh, and we’re doing this forever, so you’re my slave and I’m your master forever.” The hatred towards women is so strong in this group. Makes me really sad for them.

    Was there no woman who asked why it was necessary to go on extremely low-cal diets, take nude photos and do these “sex assignments” with KR and whatnot when the Society of Protectors (which I’m assuming DOS was modeled after) did not have to take nudes or engage in sexual stuff with Keith in order to “grow”?

  • How the Federal Bureau of Intimidation fixes cases.

    Chuck Grassley: Fmr. FBI Agent Must Testify About Burying Hunter Biden Laptop Probe

    Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA), ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, demanded Tuesday that former FBI agent Tim Thibault answer questions before the Senate about allegedly shutting down the FBI’s 2020 probe into Hunter Biden’s laptop.

    Grassley believes Thibault “shut down” a totally separate probe that is likely unrelated to the ongoing criminal probe concerning reported tax fraud by the president’s son.

    Hunter is currently under investigation by Trump-appointed U.S. prosecutor David Weiss for tax fraud, money laundering, and violation of lobbying laws, according to the New York Times. Hunter is reportedly trying to settle the case out of court and has paid $1 million to the IRS to evade conviction or a long sentence.

    In a totally separate probe, Grassley pointed out FBI officials were reportedly blocked from taking action on investigating Hunter’s laptop. “FBI officials wanted to take action with respect to this separate investigative information the FBI had in its possession related to Hunter Biden. However, Thibault blocked the FBI from doing what would normally be done,” Grassley explained on the Senate floor.

    Thibault served as an assistant special agent in charge at the FBI’s Washington Field Office and allegedly left the agency before denying allegations leveled against him.

    Top FBI official accused of shutting down Hunter Biden investigation mus…
    The top FBI official who left the bureau in the wake of explosive Hunter Biden whistleblower allegations should …

    “Accordingly, the investigative activity and information could not be advanced as it should’ve been, which means the FBI could have gathered more evidence with respect to Hunter Biden but cut bait instead. And the FBI and Thibault cut bait right before the 2020 presidential election,” Grassley continued.

    Grassley said Thibault’s alleged shutting down of the laptop probe “calls into question what U.S attorney Weiss is actually investigating.”

    “It also calls into question what the FBI’s Baltimore field office is reviewing and whether it’s the full scope of evidence,” Grassley said in relation to the tax fraud probe.

    Current FBI director Christopher Wray has refused to respond to Grassley’s queries about the separate cases, the senator said.

    “How can the American people trust the results of the investigation?” Grassley asked on the Senate floor.

    “Mr. Tim Thibault, come on in. Sit for a transcribed interview with me and my colleagues,” Grassley demanded.

    Hunter Biden’s former business partner Tony Bobulinski fears recently departed Thibault buried the information he conveyed to the FBI about his Chinese business dealings with the Biden family, the New York Post reported. Bobulinski personally met with President Joe Biden in 2017 for an hour to discuss “the Bidens’ family business plans with the Chinese.”

    A 2017 email from Hunter’s laptop revealed a business deal between Bobulinski, the Biden family, and high-ranking members of the Chinese Communist Party would include ten percent “held by H for the big guy ?” Bobulinski confirmed “the reference to ‘the big guy’ in the much-publicized May 13, 2017 e-mail was in fact a reference to Joe Biden.

    Though President Joe Biden and his staff have claimed seven times the president has had no part in the family business, he has been involved in at least 17 instances.

    Sixty-two percent of registered voters believe Joe Biden likely consulted and perhaps profited from Biden family business deals. Fifty-eight percent of voters believed Joe Biden played a role in his family’s business. Sixty percent said Hunter Biden has sold “influence and access” to the president.

    Though President Joe Biden and his staff have claimed seven times the president has had no part in the family business, he has been involved in at least 17 instances.

    Sixty-two percent of registered voters believe Joe Biden likely consulted and perhaps profited from Biden family business deals. Fifty-eight percent of voters believed Joe Biden played a role in his family’s business. Sixty percent said Hunter Biden has sold “influence and access” to the president.

  • “In my opinion, it’s dangerous. The precedent set is dangerous for what can be classified as sex trafficking. And someone can be sent to prison for 40 years, based on one person’s testimony about one event they consented to”

    No NIcki. Nicole didn’t consent. Remember the collateral?
    What about India and Sylvie? Also consentual sex acts with Raniere?
    Yeah, there are plenty of people that hate Raniere.. For good reason I would say..And you think he’s a great guy.. What does that say about your judgement?

    Why is it the deadenders see everyting through this narrow vision of their own (positive) experience. Why can’t they relate to the feelings of other women that -without any doubt- had a horrible experience with Raniere. From every possible perspective, without any question, these women had a horrible experience. Why can’t Nicky acknowledge that?.

    Having said this, I do think 40 years is an excessive punishment.

  • But a rational person would have sat through the whole trial. Nicole Clyne did not.

    Nicki and other dead -enders left during key witness and other crucial testimony because they didn’t want their “inner representation” of Keith to be damaged.

    Nicki is in no position to say anything about who’s telling the truth when she refused to sit through the entire trial and listen to everyone and watch every piece of evidence be explained.

    But it is an important takeaway to realize that what Nicki is really saying is: that she, Nicki Clyne believes Camilla is lying about being raped and molested as a child and sexually exploited through pornography when she was a minor.

    Nicki Clyne does not believe Camilla.

    A great follow-up question by a diligent reporter would have been to ask Nickii Clyne if she believes Keith?

    And then the reporter could show Nicki Clyne every text and email admitted into evidence (unchallenged by Keith or his defense) in which KEITH says that his sexual relationship began with “the virgin Camilka” at 15. Grooming started at 13 years old.

    So does Nicki believe Keith?

    • Nicky already said she saw the text messages between Keith and Camilla. She also said that the defense were presented printouts of the textmessages in continuous text form. She doesn’t rule out the possibility that these textmessages are tampered with. That is what she said in a previous statement.
      So, basically the position of Nicky and the deadenders is that any evidence that the DOJ presented and casts a dark shadow over Keith is tampered with. Like Moira Penza said: avoid discussing with these people, it’s a waste of time.

  • As I’ve said before, I don’t think Nicki Clyne is a bad person. By that I’m of the opinion that she would not deliberately do something to knowingly hurt someone else for her own selfish reasons.

    That said, Nicki Clyne inhabits a very different psychological universe to most of us. As individuals, we all have our own idiosynchrasies, and our perceptions of life and the world we live in are all different. And yet for any society to function well there needs to be a certain degree of a shared belief and value system we commonly subscribe to. In most stable societies this is the case, even though there will always be people like Nicki who fall some way outside of that scope.

    In many ways Nicki represents the impending threat to social stability and democracy that currently confronts us. Since 9/11 and the growth of tech dependency and social media, we have collectively entered a post-truth world where not only opinions about facts divide us, but even an acceptance of the facts themselves.

    It is hardly surprising that like so many Americans Nicki has completely bought into the whole loony right QAnon Trumpist agenda. After all, this whole movement is essentially no different from Raniere’s cult scene: an all powerful leader who can do no wrong, dictating misleading platitudes to a sea of gullible acolytes who accept them without question. It is the subversion of the individual to the will of the movement, autocracy overcoming freedom.

    And this is the really weird thing: Nicki shows great reflective sensitivity and intelligence in many of the personal writings on her website. She aint no dumbass! For example, her description of a riot following a Canadian hockey match is both vivid and moving in its revulsion and horror. I just wonder though how Nicki would describe what happened on January 6th 2021 in the Capitol Building.

    This is the point. Just as members of a cult can never see themselves as members of a cult, they are equally incapable of seeing anything wrong with what their leaders do – whether that’s Raniere raping a 12-year-old (Rhiannon) or any other underage girl, or Donald Trump and others subverting the basic democratic rights and personal freedoms that most Americans have so long taken for granted.

    One of Nicki’s most recent posts was on the war in Ukraine. It didn’t really say that much one way or the other, apart from being a little disparaging about the mainstream media’s reporting of it, but actually that was the really interesting thing: you had the feeling Nicki really wanted to take a pro-Russian stance, but something deep down just couldn’t allow her do it – the Trumpist autocrat conflicted with the pacifist humanist. Just like her social media silence on Roe: religious right wing bigotry v Raniere’s birth control system.

    We have all the naive stuff about the FBI and the justice system; we are asked to believe that both are corrupt to the hilt. Of course, as most of us come to realise following our teenage years, things aren’t perfect and there’s an element of corruption in all large institutions, public and private. That’s why we set up other independent entities to regulate, and if necessary, investigate them. However, such agencies provide an essential service in regulating the country, ensuring national laws are upheld, and that crucially no one is above the law, and that goes for cult leaders as well as former presidents.

    Consent is a concept that is perhaps more complex than some people think. According to testimony, Nicki was tasked with investigating the “seduce Keith” assignment in DOS. Presumably she knows therefore how widespread it was. It’s also true that Nicki knew about the collateral system, which she has a different understanding of. And yet she knows that the asymmetrical structure of DOS meant that in Orwell’s words some people were more equal than others. Can she not empathise with the lower echelons of young women who must have felt a degree of obligation to carry out such an assignment if given it by a superior? Does that amount to full consent? The same applies to the branding, and Nicki has herself admitted that its victims were unaware it was Raniere’s initials. Does she not think they were entitled to know that? Is that full consent?

    Finally, we live at a time when the world is teetering on the edge of oblivion, whether it’s nuclear Armageddon, climate change apocalypse, social, political and economic meltdown, a properly nasty pandemic, or any combination of the above. There’s never been a more important time in human history for us to get together and try to sort out all the shit. I just hope Nicki wakes up one day and smells the coffee. If she can’t, there’s really not a lot of hope for the rest of us.

  • As a rational person, Nicky should join the flat earth society and become its spokesperson.
    So Cami herself said KR had sex with her when she was 15 and took pics of her … NK sounds like HRC: “Believe all women”, but not those who accuse your husband – with evidence. Instead, accuse them of lying and blacken their reputation if you can. “It takes a lot of courage to do it, don’t you know?”
    Besides, it’s all a conspiracy by the right/left/martians haters.
    Talking of conspiracy and haters: here it is, again. NK writes “Even, and especially, when it’s someone who’s hated.” As a rational person, can NK tell us, rationally, the reason why anyone would ‘hate’ KR? Wasn’t he more revered than (insert person of choice: Christ, the Dalai Lama, Nelson Mandela (ha … maybe KR should marry NK: the Africans will be dancing in the streets like they did when NM was freed…)?
    All totally rational …

  • How is the divorce of Allison Mack and Nicki (Nicole) Clyne progressing? Is it because of Corona and a backlog of processing, or what are the obstacles to finalizing the divorce? The divorce is moving very slowly. It was filed as early as 11/12/2020 by Allison Mack. Divorces are private matters, but Allison and Nicki have now become prominent through NXIVM, so different standards apply. Especially when, as in this case, a sham marriage was contracted and immigration fraud was committed.

  • If this happened, if evidence was tampered with or planted, what happens to the co-conspirators who took plea deals on the basis that the child porn evidence, which might turn out to be false/tainted, would be used against them?

    Early release? Perhaps their records being expunged of wrongdoing?

    If KR is guilty and the actual, living breathing devil, it makes the tampering worse. It means they couldn’t win a slam dunk case without cheating. Which means they likely cheated in every other case, too.

    It’s the people who hate Raniere’s guts who should be the most disturbed by this. Maybe everyone should stop dumping on Nicki Clyne and start holding Moira Penza to the same standards that you hold an actress and personal friend of Raniere to.

      • Perhaps Nicki is still entitled to alimony payments from Allison as long as the marriage is not yet divorced? And why should Nicki work? She is fully occupied with propaganda for Raniere and besides posting beautiful photos of herself on Instagram and spreading her opinion on Twitter.

    • AI-

      Here’re the answers, to the questions, you seek:

      Question:
      Do you have any idea what Nicki does for work now?

      Answer:
      She’s doing Suneel.
      ////////////////////////

      Question:
      Is she acting again?

      Yes. Every-time she orgasms
      with Suneel.
      ///////////////////////////

      Question:
      Is she living off someone else?

      Yes. She’s living off of Suneel.
      ////////////////////////

      “Hookers gotta hook and
      pimps gotta get paid and
      if you look like Suneel, you
      pay and pay and pay.”
      (Lord Nostradanus, circa 2022)

      • Anonymous – I think I know your identity. You are a widower, a millionaire, have two young daughters. One unmarried, one married a couple of years ago to a man named Nice Guy, but it didn’t take. Both living with you and both pretty and both pretty wild. About a year ago you paid a man named Scott Johnson five thousand dollars to stop trolling your younger daughter’s husband.

        • Hopefully Scott Johnson filled out the correct tax form if the amount was paid in cash.
          Or what are the rules for cash payment in this amount?

          • The only forms Scott fills out are for disability payments and liability.

            Disability because he’s a retard and liability because he’s dependent on his kids.

            Loser!
            Loser!
            Loser!
            Loser!
            Never before has their been a bigger loser than Scott!!!!
            Scott’s a bigger loser than Alonzo’s dad is. Alonzo’s dad is a loser because he had Alanzo.

          • Down in El Paso, five years ago, fellow by the name of Scott Johnson came to town with six packs of Amway soap and two packs of Amway shampoo. Said he wanted a man to sell products for him.

            Nice Guy had a meeting at Johnson’s Amway Mercantile Store [in his garage] and finally came to blows, him and Scott Johnson. Bashed his head with a box of Amway Duck Bisquits and ran away to New England, but Scott didn’t die. Couldn’t speak a word.

            Nice Guy took up with an ex Scientlogist named Alanzo, educated in Illinois. Spoke cultic-speak better than you and me.

            Alanzo said, Your job, Nice Guy, is to feed the trolls bullshit.

            Nice Guy said. Fine, what’ll I feed them?

            He said word salad.

            Came to blows two days later over a first edition of L. Ron Hubbard’s Dyanetics he claimed Nice Guy stole. Nice Guy had borrowed it. During the fight, Nice Guy busted it over his head; ruined one of the finest first editions of Hubbartd’s classic work.

            Nice Guy grabbed a plane and flew back to Boston. Got to talking with a fellow who looked honest. Turned out to be State Trooper Rodger Kirsopp, who was looking for him. Told the Trooper his name was Bangkok, who worked as a pool boy in Los Angeles, looking for something worth while. Mentioned Dennis Burke and Heidi as references.

            [To be continued]

          • It was never El Paso, it was always Buzzard’s Bay.

            It’s where buzzards fly over and shit the digested remains of dead fish and reptiles, right into the yawning mouth of Nice Guy, who believes he’s living the good life, elevated above those who make less money than he and his wife.

        • Mr. Parlato,

          Yes, I’m a man of means. I have a vast amount of wealth from which to draw from if need be.
          I’ll pay Scott to stop trolling NiceGuy. We can’t risk NiceGuy being driven back to the bottle, despite the fact he ruined my daughter’s life.
          I won’t pay Scott the sum of $5000 which is a king’s ransom nor $500 which is a princely sum; He’ll receive the nominal amount of $50, fit for a pauper. If Scott received a penny more he’d squander it on get rich quick schemes such as another MLM tools-scams and once again he’d feel like a feeble fool.

          BUT, if we give him $50, he’d have a fine time. $50 will cover 3 beers and a handjob from a skank at a VFW bar.

          As for my daughters. I have a daughter and a son now. I’ve always had two children. A contemptible man by the name of Bangkok drove my eldest daughter to manhood.

          Mr. Parlato, sometimes a man needs to read between the lines and sometimes he needs to stay between the lines.
          In the case of the former your deductive skills need sharpening and in case of the later , you’ve crossed the line when you brought my daughter and son into the conversation.
          Good Day to you old chap!

          *A princely sum is a reference to Pygmalion.

          • Nice Guy, what daughter? I know you had a little daughter point you out in a crowd once. Is that the one?

          • —Nice Guy, what daughter? I know you had a little daughter point you out in a crowd once. Is that the one?

            When I’m in character please address me as such.
            ***

          • How Nice Guy found out about Patriot God’s half black ancestry…

            Nice Guy left Scott Johnson in Houston with 20 dollars in his pocket, gift of a girl named Heidi.

            Walked fourteen miles in fourteen hours. Big house with barb wire all around, and big dogs. One thing Nice Guy never could get around. Walked past the gate, anyway, from hunger and thirst. Dogs jumped up and came
            for me. Walked right into them, growing older every second. Went up to the door and knocked.

            A big black woman opened the door, closed it quick. Said, On your way, white trash.

            Knocked again.

            She said, On your way. Again. On your way. Again.

            This time Patriot God’s Father opened the door, ninety, if he was a day. Sawed-off shotgun, too.

            Nice Guy said, I ain’t looking for trouble, Father. I’m hungry and thirsty, name’s Scott Johnson.

            The old man took him in and made mint juleps for the two of them.

            Nice Guys said, Living here alone. Father?

            Patriot God’s father said, Drink your drink and ask no questions. Maybe I am and maybe I ain’t. You saw the lady. Draw your own conclusions.

            Nice Guy heard of that, but didn’t wink out of tact.

            If I told you that old Southern gentleman and the black woman were Patriot God’s parents, you wouldn’t believe me, would you?

            Well, it so happens they were.

          • Frank Parlato
            9/18 2:42am

            “Big house with barb wire all around, and big dogs. One thing Nice Guy never could get around. Walked past the gate, anyway, from hunger and thirst. Dogs jumped.”

            So you know! That’s right! I would’ve been Bangkok’s dad but the neighbors dog beat me over the fence.

          • I don’t suppose you ever heard about the time Nice Guy had to put a dress on to save his skin, did you?

            He nearly lost an eye early one morning, going down the stairs. Ran into a Scott Johnson who had an iron fist where his right hand was supposed to be.

            Johnson said, You broke up my home.

            Nice Guy told him he was a stranger in Houston.

            The girls gathered at the top of the stairs to see a fight. Seven of them.

            Johnson was six feet four and an iron fist. That’s bad on the nerves.

            Nice Guy kicked him in the mouth when Scott swung for his head with his fist. Nice Guy would have lost an eye except for quick thinking. He rolled into the gutter and pulled a gun. Fired seven times.

            Nice Guy was bade upstairs. Left the place an hour later, dressed in silk and feathers, with a hat swung around over his face. He saw Johnson standing on the comer, waiting.

            Nice Guy said, Care for a wiggle?

            Johnson said he didn’t. Nice Guy went on down the street and left town.

          • Frank 9/24,
            My dear fine gentleman,
            you’re confused and utterly wrong.
            On that day, it wasn’t a skirt I wore Frank, it was a kilt.
            I didn’t break up Scott’s home – I banged his wife in his home. The kilt was so I could getaway faster incase Scott returned home. I wasn’t a stranger,
            I was “getting strange” from Scott’s wife. Check Urban dictionary regarding “getting strange.”
            Learn Ebonics and get Woke! White boy!

            So you see, I didn’t lose an eye! Scott’s wife lost an eye when he found my kilt was on her head. He took and eye for an eye. Or so he says.

            Johnson is 6’4, and I’m 6’1.
            The day I shot Johnson, he was packing a .357 and I was packing a 7.62. Women prefer a rifle over a carbine or handgun.

            I didn’t get rolled in the gutter!
            A totally dishonest lie!
            Scott’s wife is like a bowling ball, I rolled her in the gutter!
            I fingered her and
            “rolled her down the gutter” and
            she still came back for more!

            My hat is a bolero! On a steel horse I ride. Wanted dead or alive!
            When I saw Scott, I handed him $20 for a table dance.
            Unfortunately, Scott’s so fat the table broke and he broke my leg. I walked with a limp until Scott’s wife made my “limp” disappear with her just her 👄
            I only left town cuz – I started banging Scott’s daughter in the next town over.
            You should come to our house sometime Frank!
            Johnson’s daughter is like a Dennie’s Restaurant, she’s always glad to have you “come’on back” and she’s got an ample parking lot. You can park two in the front and another outback.
            See yah soon!

          • Frank (26th):
            ***

            My dear old chap,

            Tut, tut! Obviously, Scott’s story differs from my own. Scott’s not lying and neither am I. His story rings true! I hope your naivety is not a foul ruse in poor taste.

            It wasn’t until last night the big reveal was made. I’d often wondered why, Mrs. Johnson only shown me the backdoor entrance. This entire time Scott had been wearing a wig and impersonating his own wife!
            The whole thing was a little too 90’s “The Crying Game” for my liking.

            My mind had been telling me “no!” But my body said, “yes!”
            “I don’t see nothing wrong with a little bumpNgrind.” Do you?

            https://youtu.be/BpyZV8hTnto

          • Dear Sir F. Parlato,

            One last thing before we end this charade or is it a masquerade?!?

            Mr. Scotty Johnson is not an avid homosexual.
            When Scott hornswoggled me – he was preparing for the titular role in his community college’s theater production of the musical,
            “Porgy and Bess”. Scotty has, periodically, dreamt of playing a female Black hooker, who mercy fucks a negro bound to a wheelchair. Porgy and Bess presented the perfect opportunity!

            I myself was pretending to love
            Mrs. Johnson to gain access to her bank account. You depositef checks looking for reciprocity or recipes.

            So you see sir, neither of us men are gay nor animals—we are thespians practicing are craft.

            And you Sir are an actor on our stage…..
            …..Do you exit the stage left or right? Choices Sir, have consequence….

            The end is nigh! Goodbye!

          • One last word — Nostradamus, the full adventure of living has started for you— in a world chock full
            of things that aren’t easy to understand— especially for one so dumb.

            You’re definitely not one of the top three problem solvers. But you could be one of the top four problem makers on this website. And that’s saying a lot. I wish you could be more like Nice Guy.

          • Regarding Frank’s Comment on
            September 18, 2022 at 2:42 am
            How Nice Guy found out about Patriot God’s half black ancestry…

            I reread Frank’s comment. Damn talented. He missed his calling. He definitely has a penchant for writing.

            Hopefully, with Frank’s court case resolving, he’ll soon get back to writing his book.

          • I’m a Niagara Falls man. Niagara Falls, New York. Up in Niagara Falls we take our time making up our mind.

            The black woman that was at the house with the barbed wire was Patriot God’s mother not his mammie. I will swear to that.

            Mr. Nice Guy, I’m a Niagara Falls man. Niagara Falls, New York. If I say it, I mean it. If I mean it, of course I’ll swear it.

        • “Septic 18, 2022 at 2:42 am
          How Nice Guy found out about Patriot God’s half black ancestry”

          I enjoyed rereading this community in its entirety. You’re a talented son of bitch.

    • AI-

      Here’re the answers, to your questions:

      Question:
Do you have any idea what Nicki does for work now?
      Answer:
She’s doing Suneel.
////////////////////////
      Question:
Is she acting again?

      Answer:
      Yes. Every-time she [redacted]
with Suneel.
///////////////////////////
      Question:
Is she living off someone else?

      Answer:
      Yes. She’s living off of Suneel.
////////////////////////

      Facts are facts. My answers are based on my opinion of Suneel’s and Nicki’s relationship.

      Suneel or Nicki may have a different perspective than me or each other.
      ***

  • Blah blah, she isn’t breaking any new ground. Just repeating Suneel.

    Speaking of, where is the rest of that series? Besides a post it note, yet to see how the WD external hard drive with the nude pics of a minor has been allegedly compromised by the FBI. Wanted to see how that went.

    • If what Suneel says is accurate, it’s not blah blah. It means the FBI cheated to win a slam dunk case. Which means they likely cheat in every case.

      It should be a major news item, no matter where anyone stands on other issues pertaining to KR or NXIVM.

      • It now is ‘a major news item’ so lets see. The Mail is reasonably fair, in the case of Stephen Lawrence they did, for example, include coverage of the attempt by the perpetrators to wheedle out of a disgusting crime and that was a good thing, for it showed their dishonesty was trenchant and that only helped to solidly prove their guilt.

        Go ahead and fill your boots, deadenders, you have received so much help, mostly from FR, now from the Mail. The problem is that attempts to create a different narrative around the crimes nexium is guilty of, will be stymied by the same facts that put you in this position in the first place. Watch you don’t make things considerably worse for yourselves.

      • “Which means they likely cheat in every case”
        Kevin just lost all credibility by posting such a ridiculous statement.

      • What Suneel says is not accurate. Suneel us a proven liar. Suneel lied about his identity to the BOP.

        Suneel would say or do anything for his Lord and master vanguard Keith Alan Raniere. Anything.

        Even dance like a fool in front of a men’s detention center. At Keith’s order. Even procure more ‘erotic dancers’ to join the cult followers thru a fraudulent organization at Keith’s behest.

        Suneel is a well documented liar.

  • — I’m a very rational human being. Obviously, it made me question things.

    It’s rationality which led Nicki to:

    1. Follow a man calling himself Vanguard, who allegedly has super powers allowing him to:

    A. Make it snow
    B. See into people’s previous lives.
    C. Set off radar detectors,
    D. Run faster than OJ.
    E.Share his life force via his cum.

    2. Spend all her money on BS courses based on stolen Scientology “tech”.

    3. Believe in a CONSPIRACY her Vanguard was framed and setup by:
    Frank Parlato, Cami, Dani,
    Sarah Edmondson, Marc Vicente, Jessica Jones, India Oxenberg, Catherine Oxenberg, Nippy Ames, Susan Dones, Kristen Keefe
    DOJ prosecutors office, the FBI, and about 20 other people.

    Yes, Nicki is rational like anyone on meth or being treated for schizophrenia.

  • How can people be so horrible? When I was 15, an 18 year old seemed so much older than me.
    When we watch horror films, we always feel it’s far removed. The news has changed with social media and the so called fake news. Everything becomes so over sensationalized. Doesn’t get so up and personal into the details like the Frank Report does. Engaging and inspiring.

  • Nicki forgot:

    Keith was my lover.

    I made a lifetime vow to him

    But in order to stay in America I fraudulently married Allison Mack.

    To pull off this con and criminal activity multiple members of the cult lied to authorities. I formally lied thru paperwork too.

    I also was involved (it’s recorded) in planning the decietful nature of Keith’s initials being hidden in the brand. I can be heard enthusiastically endorsing the deception and exclaiming excitedly over it.*

    We lied to all the other women about Keith’s role as “grandmaster” and the architect and ultimate authority of DOS

    I was eager to participate in a group blow job as part of a “recommitment ceremony” to Keith.

    I collected pornographic images, false accusations and other life damaging blackmail in order to exert control over other women.

    We all grew out our pubes for Keith and strove to achieve my boyfriend’s ideal body type. This led to starving women who were slaves and from whom we also aspired to get 40 hours a week free labor.

    There were “seduction assignment” orders for slaves to have sexual contact with Keith.

    There’s more. It’s a lot of lying. But believe me now. This time I am not lying for Keith. Like every other time I lied for Keith.

    Now I should be believed.

    *Maybe this lying could be one of those things that if do differently?

    • Well summarized, thank you. It’s pretty amazing that all of those behaviors were for the purpose of “Growth” and “Women’s Empowerment” and becoming “Badassed.”

      The Trial Transcripts are fascinating to read. Google “Reddit Nxivm Trial Transcripts” to get the links.

      From Nicki’s viewpoint, all of the behaviors of DOS were an alternative lifestyle not criminal. And by charging Keith with sex trafficking, racketeering, and forced labor he was over-charged.

      I think there is some truth to that. The evidence and testimony at trial and the victim’s statements proved to me that Keith is guilty of statutory rape, blackmail or extortion, unlawful imprisonment, and using the courts to harass defectors. So instead of 120 years I think he deserved maybe 80 years, tops. Collecting “collateral” and then letting master’s assign exercises that the slaves would otherwise prefer to decline is not an alternative lifestyle. It is the opposite of consent.

      Did anyone else see where Penza suggested Michele H. was given a seduction assignment that she wanted to decline? I assumed this was the basis for Michele saying she was threatened with perjury if she testified. That Penza would quote her initial statements if she changed her story. If so, were there then 3 total seduction assignments (I would count Sylvie?) Or were there even more instances, less reported?

      Regarding the whole FBI photo thing. In my opinion Keith will do anything to keep contact going with his outside supporters just to feel his life is not over. Keep some kind of action going. After his appeal is dismissed, if he can, he’ll direct his supporters to investigate some new angles for attention.

      • “In my opinion Keith will do anything to keep contact going with his outside supporters just to feel his life is not over. Keep some kind of action going.”

        I concur.

  • There needs to be an investigation. There’s enough evidence that suggests serious misconduct, and the FBI absolutely violated their own protocols many, many times. That alone should afford Keith a new trial.

    This being said, Nicki, like Eduardo, are so blinded that they cannot identify a single “wrong” on the part of Raniere or nxivm.

    Nicki is unable or unwilling to see a single injustice, or damage done to even a single person as a result of the programs, collateral, tactics, techniques- whatever you want to call it.

    But she is correct that the government is not for or by the people. Corruption, power and greed is rewarded at the highest levels in our government.

    Like Nicki, I came to this realization late in life and feel like such a fool for believing the BS that’s promoted.

    One only has to look at the concept of Brady material to see the judicial process is an absolute joke, and the playing field is nowhere close to level!

    A “Brady material” or evidence the prosecutor is required to disclose under this rule includes any evidence favorable to the accused–evidence that goes towards negating a defendant’s guilt, that would reduce a defendant’s potential sentence, or evidence going to the credibility of a witness

    So the prosecutors decide what, if any material will be handed over. All the power is held by “the enemy” of the defendant.

    There is zero oversight. None.

    Those who stand accused don’t stand a chance. Thus, the plea deal.

  • Nikki “does not believe Kieth took photos of Camila at 15 years old.”

    At his trial, Keith knew if he DID NOT take photos of underage Camila. So, at his trial, Keith would have known the evidence was faked, and could have objected, at his trial, and probably had his case thrown out.

    But he did not. Why? Because he knew at his trial that he DID take photos of Camila at 15. There is no other explanation for Keith being silent at his trial.

    • “There is no other explanation for Keith being silent at his trial.”

      These are the kinds of assumptions which remain unexamined in fervent anticultists.

      I’ve found that the more unexamined assumptions you have, the more militant, fanatical and pinheaded you become.

      So I’ll help you out, LaLaLad.

      Ask yourself these critical thinking questions about your assumption here:

      1. Was Keith really silent at his trial? What are all these reports about a blizzard of post-it notes, and his micro-managing his defense team, then?

      2. Was he and his defense team really silent? What’s all this testimony by the FBI’s property and evidence officer about metadata being hard to change, then? Did he just blurt that out on the stand, apropos of nothing?

      3. Our system requires an assumption of innocence and this requires the prosecution to prove its case, not for the defendant to prove his innocence. How might this factor have a role in your assumption above? Could this factor lead to other possible explanations?

      4. It has been reported that the defense attorneys were scared shitless at the behavior they were seeing from the prosecution and the judge in this trial. They could see the fix was in, and did not want to ruin their own careers by going up too hard against them. Could this have been a factor in what you are claiming here? Is it another possible explanation?

      5. And finally, are you SURE there is no other explanation possible? Are you so unimaginative that you can’t think up even one more explanation for what you think you see here? Or do you simply take refuge in your feeling of certainty?

      Do too many possible explanations make you feel uncomfortable?

      So there you go. It’s a lesson in critical thinking for you on questioning your own assumptions.

      No extra charge.

      And remember – just as critical thinking gets people out of Cults, critical thinking gets people out of Anticults, too.

      Alanzo

      • Your #1 supports LaLaLad’s point.
        #2 If Keith didn’t take the photos, why wouldn’t his defense have been screaming “HE DIDN’T TAKE THE PHOTOS!!”? Or, at the least, tossed some tough questions at the prosecution’s witness.
        #3 Sure. We can sit and zip our mouths, if we so choose. But if I didn’t do something, I’ll be fighting for my freedom.
        #4 This could have come into play. It is possible that (on the most important piece of evidence and going against their client’s vehement pleas of innocence) his attorneys didn’t offer a defense due to chickenshitedness.
        #5 We could have lots of fun putting together a list of other explanations. It’s all I can do not to rip off a top 10 list now.

        Keith had a pattern of behavior. The closer you were to Keith, the more you knew about this. He taught a module about mothers performing fellation on their infant boys to stop them from crying. In the same module, he made it clear that age of consent should often be lower than what the US typically has it at. Everyone (especially Keith) knows he’s guilty as hell when it comes to virgin Cami.

        This is all part of the deadender strategy to free poor victim vanguard. “Don’t pay attention to that. LOOK OVER HERE!!!” Lucky for them, this camera debacle is fueling their fight.

        • Nutjob wrote:

          “Keith had a pattern of behavior. The closer you were to Keith, the more you knew about this. He taught a module about mothers performing fellation on their infant boys to stop them from crying.

          Can I see this module?

          What was the name of it?

          Where can it be found?

          Alanzo

          • Slow drip. It wasn’t taught as “mothers should do this.” It was taught as, “Is this so wrong??? You tell me?”
            Keith was great at and a wannabe master at the long game. Insanely impressive how disciplined and patient he could be. He had so many irons in the fire, any normal person would be a fucking basket case. But he thrived with this.
            There was a lot of shit in that module. i remember leaving it and thinking, “is this guy into young girls? ” If he was a real master at the long game, he wouldn’t have shown his pervert cards so early in his new MLM. That was one of the first 20 modules wear he busted this nut.
            I will pull up my notes on this shit. I’m curious what the questions were and what I scribbled for notes.

          • So, I actually pulled up my old notes and am going through them for the first time in decades. In no order, here’s what I’m finding:
            I was wrong when I’ve said that the “suppressive” concept was introduced after I left. In actuality, he grouped levelers and suppressives together under the “shifters” category.

            HERE’S MY HANDWRITING WHILE JOTTING NOTES FROM A MODULE IN DECEMBER 1998 – FROM ATLAS SHRUGGED – “A VILER EVIL THAN TO MURDER A MAN IS TO SELL HIM SUICIDE AS AN ACT OF VIRTUE.”

            This motherfucker taught this in the Shifter Module.

            I’ve been consistent over the years in saying that Keith taught what he did. The greatest value in his courses was when he taught about his fucked-up brain.

            Shit like this is why I haven’t dug up these notes. But I ain’t no quitter. I’ll keep looking for the pedo module and will toss in other things as I find them.

          • Notes from Jan 1999 that I jotted down
            “As soon as I have an emotional reaction, I know that it’s my stuff and I need to temporarily put it aside because I can’t be objective.”

            This should have been included in the “How to Build a Harem” module.

          • Thanks –

            Can you explain to me what a “module” is?

            Is it a course with a pack of writings by Keith, that is meant to teach one subject or skill?

            In Scientology every course you took had a course pack with what is called a checksheet. A checksheet laid out the sequence you followed and marked off once you’d completed that assignment on the course.

            For instance:

            1. READ “KEEPING SCIENTOLOGY WORKING” ____

            2. DEMONSTRATE “HAVING THE CORRECT TECHNOLOGY ____

            3. LISTEN TO TAPE “THE ROLE OF EARTH” _____

            etc

            When you were done with the checksheet, you were done with the course.

            Is that like a module in NXIVM?

          • The modules would teach specific things and they each had a name. He had a core 20 modules that he roled out for the beginning of ESP. Ideally, you’d do them in order, but most people did them whenever. You’d learn/take one module over the course of an hour or two class. A teacher would teach (Keith or Nancy at the beginning), then you’d break into small groups for discussion, and then you’d all come together for the final discussion. The small group discussions was where it could get weird. This is where the questions like “is suicide bad?” “Is it always bad?” would come up.

      • I talked with Agnifilo previous to trial. He was entirely intimidated by the prosecution and judge. Still, it’s shocking he put up no defense.

    • Not to put words in the mouths of deadenders, but I believe they’d reply with something like this:
      “Just because everyone knows that Keith had sex with and took pictures of multiple underaged girls, doesn’t mean the statute of limitations isn’t up. And it doesn’t mean the prosecution didn’t cheat in order to prove what the defense was sheepishly willing to accept as fact! If glorious Vanguard had known the prosecution was cheating with the pictures, he’d have objected at trial. DUH.”

      In other words, LaLaLad, Nikki don’t care. Nicki want her Vanguard free. Nicki support Vanguard’s alternative lifestyle choices. Nicki thinks Rhiannon, Gina Hutchinson, Gina Melita, Cami, and anyone else who speaks up are liars. (actually, Nicki will SAY they are lying. But really, Nicki knows they ain’t lying and Nicki don’t care.)

About the Author

Frank Parlato is an investigative journalist.

His work has been cited in hundreds of news outlets, like The New York Times, The Daily Mail, VICE News, CBS News, Fox News, New York Post, New York Daily News, Oxygen, Rolling Stone, People Magazine, The Sun, The Times of London, CBS Inside Edition, among many others in all five continents.

His work to expose and take down NXIVM is featured in books like “Captive” by Catherine Oxenberg, “Scarred” by Sarah Edmonson, “The Program” by Toni Natalie, and “NXIVM. La Secta Que Sedujo al Poder en México” by Juan Alberto Vasquez.

Parlato has been prominently featured on HBO’s docuseries “The Vow” and was the lead investigator and coordinating producer for Investigation Discovery’s “The Lost Women of NXIVM.” In addition, he was credited in the Starz docuseries 'Seduced' for saving 'slave' women from being branded and escaping the sex-slave cult known as DOS.

Parlato appeared on the Nancy Grace Show, Beyond the Headlines with Gretchen Carlson, Dr. Oz, American Greed, Dateline NBC, and NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt, where Parlato conducted the first-ever interview with Keith Raniere after his arrest. This was ironic, as many credit Parlato as one of the primary architects of his arrest and the cratering of the cult he founded.

Parlato is a consulting producer and appears in TNT's The Heiress and the Sex Cult, which premieres on May 22, 2022.

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