Bangkok to Reader: Roger Stone Was Actually Convicted of Very Minor Stuff — Stop Hating Every Trump-Connected Individual

In any event,  a commenter using the moniker, “Cast the First Stone,” wrote:
Why didn’t Stone pay the $800,000 in unpaid taxes that he admits to?  Why was Stone found guilty on all charges in that “hoax” trial?  Maybe Stone’s problems are caused by Roger Stone.
Bangkok has a reply:

By Bangkok 

With all due respect, ‘Cast the First Stone,’ your attitude gives away your own financial status.

People that are broke often hate wealthier people.

…And if those wealthier people are Republicans, well, then they’re hated even worse by people like you.

He already explained why he couldn’t pay back the $800k yet. He’s been footing enormous legal bills and other expenses —– and he doesn’t have the cash to pay it off right now.

By the way… Since you care so much about taxes being paid…

Why didn’t Al Sharpton pay his taxes in full when they were due? He owed MILLIONS in back taxes.

Al Sharpton reportedly owed $4.7 million in back taxes. Keep in mind, however, that the government inflates tax liability adding penalties and interest that can quadruple the amount due – then they often settle for pennies on the dollar.

You don’t seem to have a problem with that, and he owed a lot more than $800k. LOL.

Care to explain? No? That’s what I thought. 🙂

Thus, it’s safe to say that you’re simply a GOP-hater and probably a broke person who hates any GOP-connected figure who is wealthier than yourself.

Stop being a hater, sir.

Hating Roger Stone won’t make your life any better or happier.

Roger Stone with Richard Nixon

You need to focus on improving your own life instead of hating other people to fill that void.

Go back to school. Work harder. Stop hating.

Roger Stone is not the horrible person portrayed in the liberal media — that is, unless you’re a flaming liberal who believes that every Trump-connected person is the devil. lol.

 

Ronald Reagan and Roger Stone

If so, your own mental condition is the problem, not Roger Stone.

If you find yourself hating every Trump-connected person while forgiving every Biden-connected family member, then your brain is guided by PURE emotions rather than logic — and only ‘psychotherapy’ can help you recover and become a normal person again.

If you look at what Roger Stone was actually convicted of (very minor stuff) and you compare that to Hunter Biden’s ‘uncharged’ behavior, you’ll see that it’s not nearly as bad.

George H W Bush with Roger Stone

The act of charging somebody with a crime (while not charging another person for political reasons) does not change the REALITY of what happened in both cases.

Reality remains the same. Only your perception of it changes.

It’s all perspective. I have it. You don’t.

Have a great day.

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  • Roger Stone is necessary.

    The world would be poorer without him.

    He is the ultimate oblique commentator.

    He can dance too and that’s a fine thing.

    • If it had been me, I would have written more than just those 3 words to Roger.
      I’m sure there are many people who would love to tell Roger exactly what they think of him, so Frank’s story was not too surprising.

  • What Enquiring minds want to know more about is how, from whence Mr. Parlato knows Mr. Stone and Trump’s other fine feathered friend, Steve Pigeon, who purportedly lined up the publicist gig with NXIVM for Frank back in ’08?

    Did they ever work together before NXIVM?

    What role, perchance, did Kristin Keeffe play in arranging for Frank’s consulting services?

    And did or didn’t Frank teach Clare Bronfman the secrets of Astral projection he may have studied at the Ashram?

    • Shadow, we are still waiting for your apology for supporting T-Rump who inspired the Jan 6 Insurrection and continues repeating the Big Lie.

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    26 de Abril del 2021

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    Clara Luz Flores se disculpa por haber mentido; admite conocer a fundador de secta NXIVM

    Destacados Carlos Álvarezlunes, 26 abril, 2021 7:55 AM

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    Clara Luz Flores Carrales, candidata de Morena a la gubernatura de Nuevo León, se disculpó, la noche de ayer domingo 25 de abril, por haber mentido al no admitir que conocía al líder de la secta NXIVM, Keith Raniere, hallado culpable, en Estados Unidos, de tráfico sexual, extorsión, delincuencia organizada, amenazas y abuso a menores, asociación delictiva, conspiración, y posesión de pornografía infantil, por lo que fue condenado a 120 años de prisión.

    “Cometí un error al haber dicho que no conocía al fundador de NEXIVM”, indicó Flores Carrales en dos videos difundidos en su página de la red social Facebook. No obstante, en la grabación de dos minutos de duración, nombra directamente a NEXIVM, mientras que en el que dura cuatro minutos omite pronunciar el nombre de la secta.

    “Me tropecé como todas y como todas ahora me levanto. A las mujeres todo nos cuesta el doble, si hablamos fuerte es porque estamos enojadas. si hablamos quedito es porque nos falta carácter, por eso siempre tenemos que levantarnos sobre nuestros propios errores”, agregó la candidata de Morena.

    “Primero que nada quiero decirles que enfrenté mal la situación y pido perdón […] Mi error fue no aceptar públicamente ese momento de mi vida en el que busque ayuda a través de un curso. El fundador resultó ser un criminal”, insistió la presidenta municipal de General Escobedo de 2009 al 2012 y de 2015 al 2020.

    “Terminando mi periodo como alcaldesa busqué ayuda profesional y me recomendaron un curso que habían tomado más de 10 mil personas y lo tomé […] Eventualmente me entrevisté con su fundador, al igual que varios líderes de opinión, empresarios, políticos, artistas hasta el mismo Dalai Lama como ha salido en muchos vídeos y fotos porque siempre había cámaras grabando”, señaló.

    “El fundador resultó ser un criminal, pero es injusto que mis rivales me hagan cargar con los delitos de un delincuente internacional que hoy está en la cárcel […] Cometí un error al haber dicho que no lo conocía y pido perdón; mi error fue no aceptar públicamente ese momento de mi vida en el que busqué ayuda a través de un curso”, agregó la candidata de Morena.

    “Pero lo que hacen mis rivales es cobarde, pues para ganar votos confunden a quien es el verdadero criminal y a quienes son las personas que simplemente tomaron un curso”, señaló Flores Carrales, en uno de los dos videos, en el cual también afirmó haber sobrevivido a 13 atentados, al secuestro de su hijo y que además, cuando estuvo embarazada, le pusieron una bomba.

    “Me caí como todas lo hemos hecho y como todas ahora me levanto. voy a dejar mi alma, mi cuerpo y mi corazón, para cambiar verdaderamente el futuro de mis hijos, de tus hijos y de todo Nuevo León. No te voy a fallar”, finalizó la candidata de Morena a la gubernatura de dicha entidad.

    LA DIFUSIÓN DEL VIDEO Y LAS MENTIRAS DE CLARA LUZ FLORES

    El pasado 24 de marzo, Adrián Emilio de la Garza Santo, candidato a gobernador por el Partido Revolucionario Institucional (PRI), difundió un video en el que se observa a Flores Carrales, conversar con Raniere, grabación que nunca se publicó en la antigua página web de la organización, ahora eliminada.

    “Entonces cuando hay Gobiernos que toman medidas populistas, aunque no sean las mejores económicamente para el país o para el Gobierno que representan, pero son lo que la gente que quiere, están en lo correcto”, pregunta entre risas la entonces alcaldesa, en un extracto de la grabación.

    “Los políticos son electos a menudo al darle a la gente lo que quieren o lo que creen que quieren y no lo que necesitan”, explica Raniere en inglés, durante una conversación que se grabó a mediados del 2016, en Albany, Nueva York, sede principal del grupo.

    La grabación desmintió la versión de la candidata de Morena, quien el 10 de marzo había dicho al periodista Julio Hernández López, que no había tenido trato con el fundador de la secta y solo había tomado algunos cursos de superación personal impartidos por NXIVM.

    Sin embargo, al día siguiente, Flores Carrales admitió haber cometido un error al participar en un curso de superación personal organizado por la organización presidida por Raniere, pero aclaró que no cometió ningún delito.

    “No tengo nada que ocultar. Mi error fue participar en un curso de superación personal, con pena acepto mi falta, pero a diferencia tuya Adrián, yo no cometí ningún delito. No le robé nada a nadie”, respondió Flores Carrales en ese entones.

    “No tengo nada que ocultar. Mi error fue participar en un curso de superación personal, con pena acepto mi falta, pero a diferencia tuya Adrián, yo no cometí ningún delito. No le robé nada a nadie”, aceptó la ex diputada local de 15 de octubre de 2006 al 14 de octubre del 2009.

    MARIO DELGADO SÍ TOMÓ CURSO DE SECTA NXIVM, PERO DE “BUENA FE”, CONFIRMA

    Mario Delgado Carrillo aceptó el pasado 4 de marzo, que sí participó en un curso organizado por la secta NXIVM, tal como lo informó horas antes el medio digital Animal Político, pero fue “de buena fe y en busca de la mejora de capacitación personal”.

    El actual presidente del Comité Ejecutivo Nacional (CEN) del partido político Morena, publicó una nota aclaratoria en su cuenta de la red social Twitter, donde aseguró que, “en la búsqueda de su desarrollo personal y profesional”, ha asistido a seminarios y programas de capacitación en instituciones públicas y privadas, como el Instituto Tecnológico Autónomo de México (ITAM), la Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (UNAM), además de la británica Essex, así como las estadounidenses Yale y Harvard, “entre otras”.

    “En ese contexto, asistí a programas de gestión de liderazgo y éxito corporativo de una institución [Sociedad de Protectores (SOP), una organización alterna de Executive Success Program -nombre de NXIVM en México-] a la que asistían miles de personas en todo el mundo. En México, antes de mi participación, ya habían asistido y recomendaban dicho programa políticos famosos periodistas y líderes de opinión”, señaló Delgado Carrillo.

    El presidente nacional de Morena explicó que cuando acudió “de buena fe y en busca de la mejora de capacitación personal”, como 15 mil mexicanos y mexicanas víctimas de la estafa, se desconocía cualquier implicación ilegal de esa institución o sus directivos en los hechos que posteriormente salieron a la luz.

    “En medio de la guerra sucia de la derecha no es casualidad que surja esta nota, misma que asegura que no hay evidencias en un tema tan delicado. Existe una enorme diferencia entre haber sido engañado para tomar un curso y haber participado en una red criminal. ‘No investigan, calumnian’, decía hoy el presidente Andrés Manuel López Obrador sobre algunos medios de comunicación y sus ataques contra la transformación”, finalizó Delgado Carillo.

    “Siempre he considerado a Animal Político como un medio serio, sus trabajos periodísticos como ‘La estafa maestra’, han tenido efectos positivos en nuestra democracia” tuiteó Delgado Carrillo, antes de la nota aclaratoria.

    “La nota en la que se refieren hoy a mi persona carece de la más mínima rigurosidad periodística y el encabezado utilizado para la misma contradice la información de la nota. Espero que por ética puedan rectificar”, dijo el presidente nacional de Morena en otro tuit.

    Al mensaje adjuntó una imagen donde se lee un fragmento de la nota de Animal Político: “No hay constancia de que Mario Delgado estuviera dentro de este selecto grupo, aunque la Sociedad en la que participaba impartía ‘enseñanzas’ que fueron denunciadas en el juicio contra Raniere”.

    Animal Político le respondió con otros mensajes en Twitter y cuestionó a Delgado Carrillo que no hiciera referencia a los recibos de pagos que existen sobre su participación en NXIVM, además de que no precisó si estuvo en la sede de Albany, capital del estado de Nueva York, Estados Unidos.

    Además, el medio digital afirmó que tienen copia de los depósitos que hizo Delgado Carrillo para pertenecer a la llamada Sociedad de Protectores. Asimismo, recordó que el pasado 17 de febrero buscaron al presidente nacional de Morena para que ofreciera su versión.

    Animal Político detalló que el pasado 22 de febrero, a petición del propio Delgado Carrillo, se envió a su equipo de prensa las preguntas que querían que respondiera, pero nadie contestó. “Mario Delgado, a través de su equipo, ofreció explicar hoy su participación en NXIVM. Apenas tengamos el texto, lo compartiremos con nuestros lectores”, abundó el medio digital.

    Ese mismo día, Animal Político dio a conocer que durante 6 meses del 2016, Delgado Carrillo, realizó depósitos por un total de 300 dólares, a la secta NXIVM, cuyo líder, Keith Raniere, fue hallado culpable, en octubre del 2020, por un jurado de la Corte Federal del Distrito Este de Nueva York.

    Ello por delitos como tráfico sexual, extorsión, delincuencia organizada, amenazas y abuso a menores, asociación delictiva, conspiración, y posesión de pornografía infantil, por lo Raniere fue condenado el 27 de octubre del 2020, juez federal Nicholas Garaufis, a pasar 120 años de prisión.

    Animal Político afirmó que el político originario de Colima, de 48 años de edad, en ese entonces senador de la República, realizó depósitos de 50 dólares durante seis meses en el 2016. Ello como parte del acuerdo para pertenecer a la Sociedad de Protectores (SOP), una organización alterna de Executive Success Program (nombre de NXIVM en México), que en su plan de estudios resumía las enseñanzas de Raniere en torno a la virilidad y el control sobre las mujeres.

    Siempre según el mismo medio digital, en el sitio web de esa Sociedad de Protectores -actualmente dado de baja- podía leerse que ayudaba a los “hombres a convertirse en miembros más poderosos e influyentes de la sociedad al brindarles herramientas y una red de hombres honorables para que los apoyen”.

    Algunas de las ideas que Raniere impartía en SOP eran que “cuanto más fuerte es el hombre, más mujeres puede controlar […] los hombres controlan al mundo y las mujeres están subordinadas a los hombres”, o “las mujeres actúan como princesas, pero cuando no escuchan lo que les gusta se convierten en bebes histéricos que no pueden manejar la verdad”.

    “Muchas de estas ideas Raniere las soltaba mientras ‘daba cátedra’, se pueden ver en los documentales ‘The Vow’ y ‘Seduce’ que transmitieron los canales HBO y Starz en la segunda mitad del 2020”, detalló Animal Político.

    “Alumnos que pertenecieron a NXIVM confirmaron que Delgado, quien fue Secretario de Finanzas y luego de Educación de la Ciudad de México (entre 2006 y 2012), tomó alguno de los cursos de Executive Success Program (ESP), en los tiempos en que la alcaldesa de Escobedo, Nuevo León, Clara Luz Flores [Carrales], era coach estola amarilla en dicha empresa”, agregó el medio digital.

    “Flores, que durante buena parte de su vida militó en el Partido Revolucionario Institucional, fue ungida por Delgado el pasado 13 de diciembre como la candidata de Morena para la gubernatura de Nuevo León en las elecciones que se celebrarán el 6 de junio del 2021”, abundó Animal Político.

    “Delgado, quien hoy enfrenta serios cuestionamientos por su intento de imponer como candidato del partido que dirige al gobierno de Guerrero, a Félix Salgado Macedonio, fue cuestionado sobre este tema, pero prefirió no dar declaraciones”, señaló el medio digital.

    “Emiliano Salinas Occeli, la cara más visible de NXIVM en México, presumía que de los 18 mil alumnos de todo el mundo que se inscribieron durante los 20 años que operó la empresa, al menos la mitad lo habían hecho en México. La mayor parte de ellos fueron empresarios y políticos que buscaban mejorar su vida bajo la creencia de que NXIVM ofrecía ‘las herramientas para alcanzar la felicidad’”, detalló Animal Político.

    “Incluso, un puñado de ellos, el mismo Salinas incluido, alcanzaron la punta de la pirámide donde reposaba Raniere y participaron en algunas de las actividades ilícitas a que obligaba la cercanía con el líder. Emiliano Salinas y su socio Alejandro Betancourt fueron señalados en la Corte Federal del distrito este de Nueva York donde se juzgó a Raniere, como coconspiradores en dichas actividades”, insistió el medio digital.

    “No hay constancia de que Mario Delgado estuviera dentro de este selecto grupo, aunque la Sociedad en la que participaba impartía ‘enseñanzas’ que fueron denunciadas en el juicio contra Raniere”, finalizó Animal Político.

    SENTENCIAN A RANIERE A CADENA PERPETUA

    El 27 de octubre del 2020, el juez Nicholas Garaufis, de la Corte Federal del Distrito Este de Nueva York, dictó cadena perpetua a Keith Raniere, líder y fundador en 2003 de la secta NXIVM, quien fue hallado culpable por un jurado, de delitos como tráfico sexual, extorsión, delincuencia organizada, amenazas y abuso a menores, asociación delictiva, conspiración, y posesión de pornografía infantil.

    Raniere, de 60 años de edad, fue arrestado en marzo del 2018, en una lujosa villa del municipio de Puerto Vallarta, Jalisco, en México, y posteriormente fue extraditado a Estados Unidos, donde se declaró inocente de los delitos antes mencionados.

    La primera sentenciada por el caso fue Clare Bronfman, heredera del imperio de destilerías Seagram, quien fue condenada a seis años y nueve meses de prisión, luego de ser encontrada culpable de delitos de conspiración para ocultar y albergar a personas que se encontraban en EE.UU. de forma ilegal con fines de lucro, así como el uso de una identificación falsa.

    Según lo declarado por las víctimas, NXIVM contaba con un sub grupo secreto y exclusivo llamado DOS, que presuntamente vendía empoderamiento femenino, a la vez que chantajeaba a las mujeres con información sensible para someterlas a voluntad de Raniere, quien se presume, les tatuó sus iniciales, con fuego y en carne viva, antes de ser convertidas en esclavas sexuales.

    Días antes, Raniere se declaró “inocente” en una entrevista transmitida por la cadena NBC dada al periodista Frank Parlato, desde el Centro de Detección Metropolitano de Brooklyn, donde el líder de la secta NXIVM se hallaba recluido y ofreció “disculpas por el dolor que pudo haber causado a su comunidad”.

    “La gente puede odiarme y pensar que soy un tipo de personaje odioso, ya sabes, horrible en realidad. Pero tanto el diablo como un santo deberían poder recibir exactamente el mismo trato bajo nuestro sistema de justicia”, le dijo Raniere a Parlato.

    Moira Kim Penza, asistente de la Fiscalía, aseveró a mediados de junio del 2019, que el acusado era el jefe de una banda criminal que obligaba a sus presuntas esclavas a realizar dietas estrictas, enviar fotos de desnudos como “garantía” y a ser marcadas con las iniciales de Raniere.

    La asistente de la Fiscalía, por ejemplo, interrogó a la testigo “Sylvie” respecto a las enseñanzas de la Sociedad de Protectores, un curso intensivo de 6 días que, dijo, le obligaron a tomar con un costó aproximado de 5 mil dólares.

    “Tuvimos diferentes grupos de discusión”, aclaró la testigo, quien abundó que ahí se ve que “los hombres eran muy obsesivos con el sexo, todo lo que pensaban y querían era sexo y que las mujeres éramos materialistas, ensimismadas, narcisistas y que todo lo que queríamos eran cosas y que nos cuidaran para no hacernos responsables de nada”.

    La testigo “Sylvie” también recordó que otra de las lecciones fue que los hombres deberían tener relaciones sexuales con varias personas o múltiples parejas para ser sanos, mientras que las mujeres deberían ser leales a un solo hombre.

    HIJO DE CARLOS SALINAS ESTARÍA INVOLUCRADO

    A finales de mayo del 2019, Penza afirmó que Carlos Emiliano Salinas Occelli, hijo del expresidente de México Carlos Salinas de Gortari, era un “co-conspirador” que ayudó a Raniere a consolidar la secta NXIVM (Nexium), que se presentaba como una organización de superación personal, pero que en realidad sometía a mujeres, quienes eran marcadas con un cautín y obligadas a ser esclavas sexuales.

    Durante una audiencia judicial, Penza mostró a un juez de la Corte del Distrito Este de Nueva York, un organigrama del círculo más cercano de Raniere, entre ellas Loreta, Jimena y Carola Garza Dávila, hermanas y ciudadanas mexicanas, originarias de Sabinas, Coahuila, pero radicadas en San Pedro Garza García, Nuevo León.

    Además de Salinas Ocelli y las hermanas Garza Dávila, en el organigrama que presentó la fiscal Penza, se encuentran los ciudadanos mexicanos: Mónica Durán, Daniel Padilla, Camila Fernández, y Rosa Laura Junco, esta última hija del empresario Alejandro Junco de la Vega, dueño del Grupo Reforma, que edita el diario homónimo.

    Esta última integrante del primer círculo de Raniere, llegó a dirigir el medio digital de la secta, denominado The Knife Media (El Cuchillo, en español), actualmente desaparecido, pero que tenía la pretensión de “analizar la distorsión periodística de los medios de comunicación”.

    Por su parte, la mexicana Carola Garza Dávila dirigía Rainbow Multicultural Garden en la filial de Nexium en México, un programa que enseñaba a niños de preescolar hasta siete idiomas. Estas mujeres eran “maestras” de la secta, ordenadas por Raniere, quien también tenía en como esclavas sexuales a las actrices Alisson Mack y Nicky Clyne.

    El líder de la secta fue arrestado en Puerto Vallarta, Jalisco, en marzo de 2018, y, según el diario The New York Times, durante los primeros interrogatorios con las autoridades, reveló que las mexicanas lo escondieron en sus casas de Monterrey y Puerto Vallarta.

    Los cargos que afrontaba Raniere en la Corte de Brooklyn son tráfico sexual, lavado de dinero y otros delitos. El acusado tenía filiales de su organización de esclavitud sexual en México, en asociación con Salinas Occeli, según la fiscal Penza, quien llevaba el caso.

    “Lo que usted ve en esta cadena de correos y en los correos que están en las cajas […] es que hubo esfuerzos de los conconspiradores incluyendo Kristin Keeffe, incluyendo Emiliano Salinas, dirigidos por el acusado en relación a qué individuos debían ser objetivos”, explicó la fiscal Penza al juez.

    Los correos fueron encontrados en un allanamiento en la residencia de Nancy Salzman, cofundadora de Nexium y pareja de Raniere desde hace casi 21 años. También hallaron carpetas de los “enemigos” jurídicos de la secta NXIVM, entre ellos fiscales y jueces.

    Según la cadena Univisón, Salinas Occelli aún no cuenta con cargos criminales en EE.UU, y sólo ha sido citado como amigo de Raniere. En el sistema judicial de Estados Unidos, recordó el medio, una persona puede ser identificada como cómplice sin haber sido acusada.

    Tras la detención de Raniere en marzo del 2018, sus principales socios en México, Emiliano Salinas Occelli y Alejandro Betancourt Ledesma, anunciaron el fin de su relación con ESP, empresa creada por su antiguo mentor y líder de la secta.

    A través de un breve comunicado publicado en la página web de ESP México, el hijo del ex presidente Salinas también anunció que abandonaría la dirección de la empresa Executive Success Programs, tras 15 años de operación en la misma.

    Según lo investigado por las autoridades estadounidenses, había dos niveles en esa agrupación al servicio de Keith Raniere: el de las esclavas principales, a quienes marcaban cerca de la pelvis con las iniciales K y R, a quienes llamaban Raniere Master, y el de las esclavas de las esclavas, que llamaban Grandmaster.

    Con sede cerca de Albany, la secta se autoproclamó como una organización de autoayuda que ofrecía talleres que prometían la realización personal. Además, ofrecían clases adicionales de los denominados Programas de Éxito Ejecutivo (PEE), que eran dirigidos a profesionales del negocio.

    Lauren Salzman -hija de Nancy- declaró en la Corte neoyorquina que, con cierta periodicidad, ella y las otras seis integrantes de Dominant Over Submissive (DOS) -organización creada a finales del 2016-, se desnudaban y posaban juntas frente a una cámara, se les fotografiaba -tenía que vérseles el tatuaje cerca de la pelvis- y las imágenes eran enviadas a Raniere.

    También declaró como testigo, Sean Welch, encargado del área de Tecnología de XR (Extreme Restraint LLC), empresa que vende juguetes sexuales sadomasoquistas vía web, quien dijo que en unos pedidos hechos por Daniela Padilla, una de las esclavas del primer círculo, se solicitó una celda inmovilizadora colgante.

    Además de un collar de choques eléctricos a control remoto para perros y unas ataduras de pared para suspenderse de las muñecas. Además, se ordenó un grillete para el tobillo y un tapón que se coloca en el trasero adaptado con una cola de perro, que puede emitir también descargas eléctricas a control remoto.

    Las autoridades de EE.UU. iniciaron la investigación de la organización luego de el rotativo NYT publicó un reportaje a finales del 2017, que detallaba cómo las mujeres tenían que proporcionar secretos personales como “garantía” para unirse a la “hermandad de Raniere”, bajo la advertencia de que la información dañina o vergonzosa se haría pública si revelaban la existencia de la misma o por traición.

    Salinas Ocelli, de 45 años de edad, Salinas es Licenciado en Economía por el Instituto Tecnológico Autónomo de México (ITAM) y doctor en la misma materia por la Universidad de Harvard. Trabajó como analista financiero para el banco de inversión neoyorquino Lazard Freres S.A.

    Además, el hijo del ex presidente Salinas de Gortari -quien gobernó México entre los años 1988 y 1994-, fungió como vicepresidente de Prorsus Capital. En la actualidad es coordinador general de movimiento EN LAK’ECH y está casado con la actriz de origen polaco Ludwika Paleta Paciorek.

    A pesar de que Salinas Ocelli reconoció la existencia de DOS, rechazaba que se cometieran abusos contra mujeres, al dar por hecho que las marcas a mujeres y la entrega de material íntimo eran acciones consensuadas. Y dijo que si un grupo de hombres perteneciente a un grupo secreto decide “tatuarse el chile”, en referencia a los genitales masculinos, nadie “pensaría en rescatarlos”.

    FILTRAN VIDEO DE EMILIANO SALINAS BAILANDO EN HONOR A RANIERE

    A mediados de junio del 2019 se filtró un video en el que se observa a Emiliano Salinas Occelli, y a su hermana, Cecilia, bailando en una celebración en honor de Keith Raniere. En la grabación, presuntamente captada en la fiesta de cumpleaños del líder de la secta NXIVM, los hijos del ex presidente mexicano aparecen con playera verde, color distintivo dentro de la organización para las personas de mayor rango.

    “Este es el equipo de la Ciudad de México que celebrará a Vanguard (apodo con el que se le conoce al líder de la secta) con una versión de Happy birthday”, se escucha decir a un orador en el video de tres minutos de duración, divulgado por la revista Proceso.

    https://zetatijuana.com/2021/04/clara-luz-flores-se-disculpa-por-haber-mentido-admite-conocer-a-fundador-de-secta-nxivm/

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    Highlights Carlos Álvarez Monday, April 26, 2021 7:55 AM

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    Clara Luz Flores Carrales, Morena candidate for governor of Nuevo León, apologized last night, Sunday, April 25, for having lied by not admitting that she knew the leader of the NXIVM sect, Keith Raniere, found guilty, in the United States, of sex trafficking, extortion, organized crime, threats and abuse of minors, criminal association, conspiracy, and possession of child pornography, for which he was sentenced to 120 years in prison.

    “I made a mistake when I said I did not know the founder of NEXIVM,” Flores Carrales said in two videos posted on his Facebook page. However, in the two-minute recording, he directly names NEXIVM, while in the four-minute one he omits to pronounce the name of the sect.

    “I stumbled like everyone else and like everyone else now I get up. If we women find everything twice as hard, if we speak loudly it is because we are angry. If we speak quietly it is because we lack character, that is why we always have to rise above our own mistakes,” added the Morena candidate.

    “First of all I want to tell you that I faced the situation badly and I ask for forgiveness […] My mistake was not to publicly accept that moment in my life when I sought help through a course. The founder turned out to be a criminal,” insisted the municipal president of General Escobedo from 2009 to 2012 and from 2015 to 2020.

    “Ending my term as mayor I sought professional help and I was recommended a course that more than 10 thousand people had taken and I took it […] Eventually I interviewed with its founder, as well as several opinion leaders, businessmen, politicians, artists even the Dalai Lama himself as he has appeared in many videos and photos because there were always cameras recording,” she pointed out.

    “The founder turned out to be a criminal, but it is unfair that my rivals make me bear the crimes of an international criminal who today is in jail […] I made a mistake having said that I did not know him and I ask for forgiveness; my mistake was not publicly accepting that moment of my life in which I sought help through a course,” added the Morena candidate.

    “But what my rivals do is cowardly, because to win votes they confuse who is the real criminal and who are the people who simply took a course,” said Flores Carrales, in one of the two videos, in which she also claimed to have survived 13 attacks, the kidnapping of her son and that also, when she was pregnant, they put a bomb on her.

    “I am going to leave my soul, my body and my heart to truly change the future of my children, your children and all of Nuevo León. I will not fail you,” concluded the Morena candidate for governor of the state.

    THE DIFFUSION OF THE VIDEO AND THE LIES OF CLARA LUZ FLORES

    Last March 24, Adrian Emilio de la Garza Santo, candidate for Governor for the Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI), disseminated a video in which Flores Carrales is observed talking with Raniere, a recording that was never published in the old web page of the organization, now eliminated.

    “So when there are governments that take populist measures, even if they are not the best economically for the country or for the government they represent, but they are what the people want, they are right,” the then mayor asks with laughter, in an excerpt from the recording.

    “Politicians are often elected by giving people what they want or what they think they want and not what they need,” Raniere explains in English, during a conversation that was recorded in mid-2016, in Albany, New York, the group’s main headquarters.

    The recording denied the version of the Morena candidate, who on March 10 had told journalist Julio Hernández López that she had not had any dealings with the founder of the sect and had only taken some self-improvement courses given by NXIVM.

    However, the following day, Flores Carrales admitted having made a mistake by participating in a self-improvement course organized by the organization presided by Raniere, but clarified that he did not commit any crime.

    “I have nothing to hide. My mistake was to participate in a self-improvement course, with regret I accept my fault, but unlike you Adrian, I did not commit any crime. I did not steal anything from anyone,” Flores Carrales responded at the time.

    “I have nothing to hide. My mistake was to participate in a self-improvement course, with regret I accept my fault, but unlike you Adrian, I did not commit any crime. I did not steal anything from anyone”, accepted the former local deputy from October 15, 2006 to October 14, 2009.

    “Delgado, who today faces serious questioning for his attempt to impose Felix Salgado Macedonio as the candidate of the party he leads for the government of Guerrero, was questioned on this issue, but he preferred not to make any statements,” the digital media pointed out.

    “Emiliano Salinas Occeli, the most visible face of NXIVM in Mexico, boasted that of the 18 thousand students from all over the world who enrolled during the 20 years that the company operated, at least half had done so in Mexico. Most of them were businessmen and politicians seeking to improve their lives under the belief that NXIVM offered ‘the tools to achieve happiness,'” Animal Politico detailed.

    “A handful of them, including Salinas himself, reached the top of the pyramid where Raniere rested and participated in some of the illicit activities that their proximity to the leader forced. Emiliano Salinas and his partner Alejandro Betancourt were pointed out in the Federal Court of the Eastern District of New York, where Raniere was tried, as co-conspirators in such activities”, insisted the digital media.

    “There is no record that Mario Delgado was within this select group, although the Society in which he participated imparted ‘teachings’ that were denounced in the trial against Raniere”, concluded Animal Político.

    RANIERE SENTENCED TO LIFE IMPRISONMENT

    On October 27, 2020, Judge Nicholas Garaufis of the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York sentenced Keith Raniere, leader and founder in 2003 of the NXIVM cult, to life in prison. Raniere was found guilty by a jury of crimes including sex trafficking, extortion, organized crime, child abuse and threats, criminal association, conspiracy, and possession of child pornography.

    Raniere, 60, was arrested in March 2018, in a luxury villa in the municipality of Puerto Vallarta, Jalisco, in Mexico, and was subsequently extradited to the United States, where he pleaded not guilty to the aforementioned crimes.

    The first sentenced for the case was Clare Bronfman, heiress of the Seagram’s distillery empire, who was sentenced to six years and nine months in prison, after being found guilty of crimes of conspiracy to conceal and harbor persons who were in the U.S. illegally for profit, as well as the use of false identification.

    According to the victims’ statements, NXIVM had a secret and exclusive sub-group called DOS, which allegedly sold female empowerment, while blackmailing women with sensitive information in order to subject them to the will of Raniere, who allegedly tattooed his initials on them, with fire and in the flesh, before they were turned into sex slaves.

    Days earlier, Raniere declared his “innocence” in an interview broadcast by the NBC network given to journalist Frank Parlato, from the Metropolitan Screening Center in Brooklyn, where the leader of the NXIVM sect was being held, and offered “apologies for the pain he may have caused his community”.

    “People may hate me and think I’m kind of a hateful character, you know, horrible really. But both the devil and a saint should be able to get exactly the same treatment under our justice system,” Raniere told Parlato.

    Moira Kim Penza, an assistant U.S. attorney, asserted in mid-June 2019, that the defendant was the head of a criminal gang that forced its alleged slaves to perform strict diets, send nude photos as “collateral” and be branded with Raniere’s initials.

    The ADA, for example, questioned witness “Sylvie” regarding the teachings of the Society of Protectors, a 6-day intensive course which, she said, she was forced to take at a cost of approximately $5,000.

    “We had different discussion groups,” clarified the witness, who abounded that there it is seen that “men were very obsessive about sex, all they thought and wanted was sex and that we women were materialistic, self-absorbed, narcissistic and that all we wanted were things and to be taken care of so that we would not be responsible for anything.”

    Witness “Sylvie” also recalled that another lesson was that men should have sex with multiple people or multiple partners to be healthy, while women should be loyal to one man.

    SON OF CARLOS SALINAS ALLEGEDLY INVOLVED

    At the end of May 2019, Penza claimed that Carlos Emiliano Salinas Occelli, son of former Mexican President Carlos Salinas de Gortari, was a “co-conspirator” who helped Raniere consolidate the NXIVM (Nexium) sect, which presented itself as a self-improvement organization, but in reality subjected women, who were branded with a caution and forced to be sex slaves.

    During a court hearing, Penza showed a judge of the Eastern District Court of New York an organizational chart of Raniere’s inner circle, including Loreta, Jimena and Carola Garza Davila, sisters and Mexican citizens, originally from Sabinas, Coahuila, but based in San Pedro Garza Garcia, Nuevo Leon.

    In addition to Salinas Ocelli and the Garza Dávila sisters, the organization chart presented by prosecutor Penza includes the following Mexican citizens: Mónica Durán, Daniel Padilla, Camila Fernández, and Rosa Laura Junco, daughter of businessman Alejandro Junco de la Vega, owner of Grupo Reforma, which publishes the newspaper of the same name.

    The latter, a member of Raniere’s first circle, came to direct the sect’s digital media, called The Knife Media (El Cuchillo, in Spanish), now defunct, but which was intended to “analyze the journalistic distortion of the media”.

    Carola Garza Davila, a Mexican woman, directed Rainbow Multicultural Garden at Nexium’s Mexico subsidiary, a program that taught preschool children up to seven languages. These women were “teachers” of the cult, ordered by Raniere, who also had actresses Alisson Mack and Nicky Clyne as sex slaves.

    The sect leader was arrested in Puerto Vallarta, Jalisco, in March 2018, and, according to The New York Times, during initial interrogations with authorities, he revealed that the Mexican women hid him in their homes in Monterrey and Puerto Vallarta.

    The charges Raniere faced in Brooklyn court are sex trafficking, money laundering and other crimes. The defendant had branches of his sex-slavery organization in Mexico, in partnership with Salinas Occeli, according to prosecutor Penza, who was handling the case.

    “What you see in this chain of emails and in the emails that are in the boxes […] is that there were efforts by co-conspirators including Kristin Keeffe, including Emiliano Salinas, directed by the defendant as to which individuals to target,” prosecutor Penza explained to the judge.

    The emails were found in a raid on the residence of Nancy Salzman, co-founder of Nexium and Raniere’s partner of nearly 21 years. They also found folders of the legal “enemies” of the NXIVM sect, among them prosecutors and judges.

    According to the Univison network, Salinas Occelli still has no criminal charges in the U.S., and has only been cited as a friend of Raniere. In the US judicial system, the media outlet recalled, a person can be identified as an accomplice without having been charged.

    Following Raniere’s arrest in March 2018, his main partners in Mexico, Emiliano Salinas Occelli and Alejandro Betancourt Ledesma, announced the end of their relationship with ESP, a company created by their former mentor and leader of the sect.

    Through a brief statement published on ESP Mexico’s website, the son of former President Salinas also announced that he would be stepping down from the management of Executive Success Programs, after 15 years of operating the company.

    According to what was investigated by the U.S. authorities, there were two levels in this group at the service of Keith Raniere: the main slaves, who were marked near the pelvis with the initials K and R, who were called Raniere Master, and the slaves of the slaves, who were called Grandmaster.

    Based near Albany, the cult billed itself as a self-help organization that offered workshops promising self-realization. In addition, they offered additional classes called Executive Success Programs (ESPs), which were geared toward business professionals.

    Lauren Salzman – Nancy’s daughter – testified in the New York Court that, with certain periodicity, she and the other six members of Dominant Over Submissive (DOS) – an organization created at the end of 2016 -, would undress and pose together in front of a camera, they would be photographed – their tattoo near the pelvis had to be seen – and the images would be sent to Raniere.

    Also testified as a witness, Sean Welch, in charge of the Technology area of XR (Extreme Restraint LLC), a company that sells sadomasochistic sex toys via web, who said that in some orders made by Daniela Padilla, one of the slaves of the first circle, a hanging immobilizer cell was requested.

    In addition to a remote-controlled electric shock collar for dogs and wall tethers for suspension from the wrists. In addition, an ankle shackle and a butt plug fitted with a dog’s tail, which can also deliver remote-controlled electric shocks, were ordered.

    U.S. authorities launched the investigation into the organization after the NYT news outlet published a story in late 2017 detailing how women had to provide personal secrets as “collateral” to join Raniere’s “sisterhood,” under the warning that damaging or embarrassing information would be made public if they revealed the existence of the same or for treason.

    Salinas Ocelli, 45, holds a degree in Economics from the Instituto Tecnológico Autónomo de México (ITAM) and a PhD in the same subject from Harvard University. He has worked as a financial analyst for the New York investment bank Lazard Freres S.A.

    In addition, the son of former President Salinas de Gortari, who governed Mexico from 1988 to 1994, served as Vice President of Prorsus Capital. He is currently the general coordinator of the EN LAK’ECH movement and is married to Polish-born actress Ludwika Paleta Paciorek.

    Although Salinas Ocelli acknowledged the existence of DOS, he denied that abuses were committed against women, assuming that the branding of women and the delivery of intimate material were consensual actions. And he said that if a group of men belonging to a secret group decided to “tattoo their chili,” in reference to male genitalia, no one would “think of rescuing them.”

    VIDEO LEAKED OF EMILIANO SALINAS DANCING IN HONOR OF RANIERE

    In mid-June 2019, a video was leaked in which Emiliano Salinas Occelli, and his sister, Cecilia, are seen dancing at a celebration in honor of Keith Raniere. In the recording, allegedly captured at the birthday party of the leader of the NXIVM sect, the children of the former Mexican president appear wearing green shirts, a distinctive color within the organization for people of higher rank.

    “This is the Mexico City team that will celebrate Vanguard (the sect leader’s nickname) with a version of Happy Birthday,” a speaker is heard saying in the three-minute video, published by Proceso magazine.

    • —what gives your tweet the fuel to spread like wildfire? It’s how negative the tweet is, say researchers.

      I had no idea NEGATIVITY worked so well.

      Thanks for sharing, Cabrón!

  • Aristeguin Noticias

    Clara Luz Flores se disculpa por haber mentido; admite conocer a fundador de Nxivm
    La candidata morenista admite haber conocido a Keith Raniere, un mes después de haberse difundido un video en el que aparece conversando con el fundador de Nexivm.

    Redacción AN / MDS
    26 de abril 2021 9:52 am

    https://aristeguinoticias.com/2604/mexico/clara-luz-flores-se-disculpa-por-mentir-admite-conocer-a-fundador-de-nxivm/

    translation:

    Clara Luz Flores apologizes for having lied; admits meeting Nxivm founder

    The Morenista candidate admits having met Keith Raniere, a month after a video was released in which she appears talking to the founder of Nexivm.

    Editorial staff AN / MDS, April 26, 2021 9:52 am

    Clara Luz Flores apologizes for lying; admits meeting Nxivm founder.

    The Morena candidate for the government of Nuevo Leon, Clara Luz Flores, apologized for having lied by not admitting that she knew the leader of the Nxivm sect, Keith Raniere, sentenced to 120 years in prison for turning women into sex slaves.

    In two videos posted on her Facebook page, she said: “I stumbled like everyone else and now I’m getting up like everyone else. I made a mistake by saying that I did not know the founder of Nexivm; first of all I want to tell you that I faced the situation wrong and I apologize. My mistake was not publicly accepting that moment in my life when I sought help through a course. The founder turned out to be a criminal”.

    Last March 24, the PRI candidate, Adrian de la Garza, released a video in which Flores can be seen talking to Raniere about populist governments.

    The audiovisual material denied the version of the candidate, who on March 10 told journalist Julio Hernandez Lopez ‘Astillero’, that she had not had any dealings with the founder of the sect and had only taken some self-improvement courses given by Nxivm, to face the attacks she suffered.

    The following day, Flores admitted having made a mistake by participating in a self-improvement course organized by the Nxivm organization, but clarified that she did not commit any crime: “I have nothing to hide. My mistake was to participate in a self-improvement course, with regret I accept my fault, but unlike you Adrian, I did not commit any crime. I didn’t steal anything from anyone.

    A month later, Flores admits having lied about knowing Keith Raniere, the founder of the sect. In the two-minute video, Flores directly names Nexivm, while in the four-minute video he omits to pronounce the name of the group.

    This is the full transcript of the four-minute video:

    “I stumbled like everyone else and like everyone else now I get up. If we women find everything twice as hard, if we speak loudly it is because we are angry, if we speak quietly it is because we lack character, that is why we always have to rise up over our own mistakes.”

    “When I left the inauguration the first time as mayor, the police, in collusion with organized crime, kidnapped part of my cabinet. I survived 13 attacks, they kidnapped my son who was tortured and lost his kidneys and who today my rivals are cowardly defaming for his transplant, saying that he was privileged, without knowing all the pain that this meant to us and that we do not wish to anyone”.

    “Living under pressure challenged me to push Escobedo forward, innovating in security; I protected thousands of women from family violence with the violet door and with the life watches and I did not rest until Escobedo nipped the factory of delinquents in the bud, with civic justice, the creation of seven police forces, one of them the proximity police, with a zero corruption policy through body cameras.”

    “In my security model, as a woman I found solutions to the same problems with a different vision; the result was that we became one of the 5 safest municipalities in the entire country, recognized by state governments, the federal government and by the best universities in the United States and the United Nations.”

    “As a consequence of all this, the criminal groups – in the middle of my son Alejandro’s pregnancy – put a bomb on me: I no longer only feared for my life but also for my children’s lives. My anguish was daily sky-high, I could not sleep, I could not be calm.”

    “Ending my term as mayor I sought professional help and they recommended me a course that more than 10 thousand people had taken and I took it; eventually I interviewed with its founder, as well as several opinion leaders, businessmen, politicians, artists even the Dalai Lama himself as he has appeared in many videos and photos because there were always cameras recording.”

    “The founder turned out to be a criminal, but it is unfair that my rivals make me bear the crimes of an international criminal who is in jail today. I made a mistake in having said I did not know him and I ask for forgiveness; my mistake was not publicly accepting that moment in my life when I sought help through a course.”

    “But what my rivals are doing is cowardly, because in order to win votes they confuse who is the real criminal and who are the people who simply took a course.”

    “I have dedicated my life to seek the welfare of all. that is why I combined being a sensitive but strong woman at the same time, being a mother and a professional at the same time, being a wife and a public servant; and I did it for the future of my children and your children.”

    “When they told me I could not be mayor, I won three times the election of Escobedo; when they told me I could not eradicate violence from the municipality, I made the municipality safer and was named ambassador and hero of Peace by the United Nations; when they told me I could not be a candidate because I was not from their political group, I became the leading candidate; when they told me I could not be governor they attacked me saying I was stupid, puppet of my husband, coquette and privileged.”

    I have enough sensitivity and the guts to recognize my mistakes, but I also have the strength to learn from them: I have learned and I recognize that I fell down as all of us have done and, like all of us, now I get up”.

  • Make no mistake. When it comes to political issues and people, one should always report negatively to get the widest possible spread. Reporting positively hurts the spread of your message and distribution.

    I recommend this article:

    The Guardian

    Just say no: negativity is secret of political tweet success, study finds

    Want to go viral on Twitter? Steer clear of positive terms, Spanish researchers say

    The research focused on tweets about the Catalan independence referendum.

    Natalie Grover,Tue 13 Apr 2021 11.02 BST

    You’ve treated your Twitter followers to a pithy 280-character comment about the government’s latest gaffe – but what gives your tweet the fuel to spread like wildfire? It’s how negative the tweet is, say researchers, that raises its chances of going viral, at least in the political context.

    Previous studies have suggested that the main factors affecting the virality of a tweet are user features (such as the number of followers), specific tweet features (number of URLs, hashtags and so on), and aspects of the tweet topic – but few have investigated the importance of a specific type of sentiment as an overarching link among these factors.

    [ … ]

    The inclusion of positive terms contributed to a lower average of retweets and the use of negative terms corresponded with a higher virality, confirming the hypothesis, the authors wrote in the journal Royal Society Open Science.

    [ … ]

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/apr/13/just-say-no-negativity-is-secret-of-political-tweet-success-study-finds

    • Strange, I am a fan of Frank Parlato, and it never occurred to me to look up his birthday. I am sorry Frank!

      Happy belated Birthday, Frank!

      May all your wishes come true…

      …even the perverted ones!

  • Check out the charges. It includes tax claims against the Stones and their wholly-owned corporations.

    The complaint also asserts claims for interest and penalties. The complaint is silent, however, on how much penalties and interest they will owe. That’s because the penalties and taxes can’t be calculated as percentages of their tax debts until the court first determines the size of the Stone’s underlying tax liabilities for each of the years at issue. The interest, when factored, is compounded year upon year. It’s not hard to surmise that Stone will be on the hook for a pretty penny. He dug his own grave by hiding his $$ in shell companies.

  • I spoke recently with a relative who cofounded one of the countries top tax law firms after working for years as a federal prosecutor in the DOJ’s tax division in the 70s. He read the full indictment of Stone (he actually enjoys this kind of reading) and can say with some authority that the new charges are hardly “very minor stuff.”

  • I am going to counter this nonsense because I’m bored but I plead with Frank and others to start ignoring Bangkok.

    In typical right-wing fashion – Bangkok isn’t able to use truth or ideas to sell his point. Nope, he has to use lies, disinformation, obfuscation and other tactics.

    For this talk of taxes and whatever other bullshit points he was trying to make, let us remember what Roger Stone was convicted of:
    – five counts of lying to Congress
    – one count of witness tampering
    – one count of obstruction of a proceeding

    Those sound like serious charges to me. Serious enough that Trump had to intervene and pardon him to get him out of jail.

    But then again, when like most conservatives, including Bangkok considering his worshipping of Trump, who no longer believe in democracy and believe the country should be ruled by fiat under Trump. 80% still support Trump, believe the election was stolen, and support the Capitol attack. Considering that viewpoint, respecting such things as lying to Congress or witness tampering would be viewed as nothing events. Trump lied at such a frequency and often about the dumbest things that lying is now the new normal (as Bangkok’s entire post attests). To them, to NOT lie is the immoral act; for to tell the truth is truly going against their god, Jesus Trump.

    And a quick reminder on what he was lying about – working with the Russians to help get Trump elected. The known enemy of the USA for our entire lifetimes and enemy of democracy in general is now conservatives’ best friends because Putin wanted Trump, and Trump adores Putin. The party that spent decades starting with the Korean War, the McCarthyism, the cold war, Vietnam, helping Afghans against Russia in the 80s (we been regretting that one for last 20 years), and the list goes on, now embraces Russia with a fervency that would make Reagan spin in his grave, all because Putin approves of one man, their god Jesus Trump.

    “When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.” Bangkok keeps showing you who he is, you should believe that. Everything else he writes really should be ignored as trash information from a trash source. Let him scurry into his fantasy of right-wing nonsense by doing the worse thing you can do to someone like him – ignore him.

    Always remember, conservative = immoral hypocrite (who now hate democracy and want a dictatorship under Trump).

    • A-fuckin-men to that, Sister erasend. Now, let us pray for poor Bangcuck’s mutant worms to abate and ascend and for his tender soul to be cleansed of every soilage he supposedly seeks to wipe from the minds of Keith’s minions. LOL.

    • So well said, erasend. I agree wholeheartedly with everything.

      Between Bangkok and Shadowstate, It seems like this comment section is being run by alt-right, anti-democratic morons who hypocritically claim they are patriots.

      Thank you for another point of view.

    • How did the Russians help Trump get elected? If elections are so secure, and this last one was so secure (in spite of the mountains of evidence of fraud), how could Russia interfere successfully to influence ours?

      • How did the Russians help? The same way they rile up divisiveness all over the globe. They have paid influencers on social media everywhere supplying memes, slogans, deep fakes, data banks, etc. I look for mixed messages and improper English slang to try to identify foreign influences but, sadly, it doesn’t even matter to people who are already brainwashed on either side. They won’t see it coming until a MIG drops in their garden and, even then, they’ll say it’s Biden’s (or Trump’s) own private Lolita jet cleverly disguised as a MIG from China.

        Right Shadow? (God, I hope we’re not related.)

      • Exactly! Can’t get too excited. She REALLY hates Stone and doesn’t miss her chance to pile on.

        Flowers is to Stone, as Shadow is to Allison, as Johnson is to MLMs, as Babcock is to bathing, as Mitch Garrity is to Niceguy, as Niceguy is to Ben Myers, as Frank is to Flowers, as Shivani is to Nancy, as Ed Kinum is to ethics.

          • Nice guy and Nutjob,

            But no comment on Roger’s behavior? So pretending to be terrified of imaginary drone strikes and then threatening the people who expose his lies are acceptable to you?

          • To 🌺 🌹 🌸

            Yes and no to your compound question.

            I believe Roger is so deeply immersed in his own over-the-top public persona he’s not contemplating the significance of his own words or the ramifications of said words.

            One thing that can be said of Roger Stone and Al Sharpton is that both men are excessively melodramatic.

            Side note:

            By giving Al Sharpton his own show, CNN has proven they are not an objective news organization. Don’t take my word for it; please read what another liberal news organization said
            https://www.vice.com/en/article/mv5584/al-sharpton-is-a-huge-fraud-826

          • Nice guy
            So you’re saying it’s ok to be an unethical asshole just as long as you’re “deeply immersed” in your assholish behaviours.
            Ok then.

        • Nutjob, the only time Flowers blooms and comments here on FR these days is when the post is about Roger Stone. Really makes me think she could be the woman who approached him at the restaurant. She says she’s Canadian but Stone really pushes her petals.

          • LOLing Stone
            Yes, it was me. I flew to New York or Florida (or wherever this took place) during the pandemic, just so I could hand Roger a nasty note. Then I spent 2 weeks in quarantine when I returned to Canada.
            Totally worth it.

        • Nobody hates Roger Stone more than Jeffrey David Apple. Right, Frank? I didn’t even know who Roger was, btw, until Jeff compared him to Satan (following that mtg. with Frank I wasn’t invited to wherein, according to Frank, Jeff convinced him to hire me as a writer to script Frank’s story Jeff would then happily pitch for us in Hollywood.).

    • Flowers

      —it’s ok to be an unethical….Assholish

      Hardly. Stone never murdered nor raped anyone. Roger Stone has a shtick. He has over time become a caricature of himself. The so called threat he made was part of his persona. If you actually met the guy in person at a dinner party you’d find him charming, witty, and an incredible conversationalist. Don’t take my word for it—ask Frank.

      Please read the follow quotes:

      “Yeah, I marched with Kristin Davis in the Gay Pride Parade. Proud of it,” he told Politico. “I’m a libertarian Republican.””-Roger Stone

      “Roger Stone, a key adviser to the Republican gubernatorial candidate — who called the parade “disgusting” — not only went to the march….”

      https://nypost.com/2010/10/14/paladino-aide-had-gay-old-

      ///////
      Roger’s character/persona craps on the parade, and at the same time he marches proudly with them and even has his shirt off. Roger is a complex individual.

      Flowers did your dear lesbo Ellen DeGeneres or Anderson Cooper the florist march in the gay pride parade?
      No—But Roger did.

      I am now officially done with this thread. Take care! I’m happy you’re alive! Please don’t annoy me!

  • This was about as enlightening as dogshit. If I want dog poop nearby, there are poodles and chihuahuas for that, and the darling little fuckers don’t even squawk as loudly as Bungholekok does and does and does.

    There is Faceplant. There is Twatter. There are all kinds of forums designed to contain this typical, doltish twattish twaddle from the noisy extras.

    The Stones can and will work out their supposedly taxable misunderstandings. There is no valid reasoning to trot out photos of a younger, greener Stone getting his start as a political groupie to dead presidents. So Stone’s underwear is stained. What else is new? Nada. That’s what’s new.

    In fact, with “friends” like ButtCrack, Stone can only become a bigger target for the wrecking balls.

    This reminds me of a weekend retreat for Edgar Cayce studies which I used to attend some years in South Florida, back in the early nineties. During a lecture break, I was going outdoors, when a heavyset woman with some collapsible massage table strapped to her torso approached me to see if I would like to pay to have her TOUCH me.

    I said that I was going out to smoke, but thank you for asking. She looked pained and aimed disapproval at me for desiring a Marlboro. And she made a smart little remark about smoking.

    I am looking at an obese female with a bad haircut, with some odd table strapped to her back and with all of the personal magnetism of a lumbering possum, who wants my money, wants to touch me and has decided that she is in any way qualified (or welcome) to scold me.

    I just said with polite detachment, “Some people smoke. Some people overeat.” She looked surprised. But she didn’t pester me ever again.

    If you love to ride horses through the wild, for all that it is worth, one of the first things you learn alongside staying on that horse is to become adept at flicking away the horseflies, uninterrupted. Full steam ahead.

  • Frank: A picture is worth a thousand words.

    Newly released photos from 1993 show then President Bill Clinton greeting sex offenders Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell in the White House.

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    Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein and President Bill Clinton during a tour of the White House. September, 1993.
    Epstein gave £7,280 to the refurbishment of the Oval Office.

    https://twitter.com/vcy5cygnet/status/1386236369836642310

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzzmYQFXsAAwYRc?format=jpg&name=small

    • You mean that Monica Lewinsky’s cum-stained blue dress wasn’t just an accident which kept happening during Cli*ton’s dress rehearsal? Bill was always a bad uncle potus? Well holy ding dong. No wonder somebody drove a pickup truck into Bill’s behemoth statuary, subtly hidden though it was, crouching down here in the great South like a child-eating lizard. So it wasn’t just some random drunk on a joyride who ran down Bill’s effigy, pedal to the metal across that courtyard with its potted Bushes. God bless America.

      First it was Donner, Comet and Blitzen, then it was all of modern religion and now it’s back to reruns of the dead and undead politicians. Fire it up. Nothing is real. Even the rarer ones who managed to get academic rewards and who were blessed with the Good Hair turn out to be shady, shaggy dawgs and/or appalling zombies hogs? It is true that Bill didn’t marry well, but gee whiz.

      This is how come there are fainting couches, for taking supine but still luxuriant refuge, each time the Shadow becomes too shocking. Zorro!

      This is a moment to sing Peel me a Grape like a wounded but still very adventurous little sparrow, such as Edith Piaf, that little scrapper. Non, je ne regrette rien?

  • The people who voted for Joe Biden because they hate Trump are going to get the worst case of “buyer’s remorse” in history.

    Already gasoline in Middle America has gone up a dollar a gallon.
    Every thing you buy in the store got to the shelf by gasoline or diesel fuel.
    Retailers shift the cost to you the consumer.

    Furthermore the price of raw lumber has risen 80% in a matter of months.
    New housing and buildings will soon cost much more.

      • By canceling the Keystone XL pipeline Biden has made it more difficult for fuel to gp from the oil fields of North Dakota and Alberta to markets in America.

        By taking a hard line against fracking Biden has damaged the oil industry in Pennsylvania.

        By supporting wasteful, inflationary stimulus and infrastructure bills Biden has added at least six trillion in debt to the economy leading to inflation that will impact poor Americans the most.
        Everyone will pay higher prices for everything.

        • Shadow, please seek psychological help from the CIA’s family assistance program – the contact info should be in your spy brother’s employee handbook.

      • After Biden was elected the stock market kept going up…

        But Biden had nothing to do with it or did he?

        Trump claimed the stock market would plummet when he left office…..mmh

  • Cast the First Stone said “Maybe Stone’s problems are caused by Roger Stone.”

    From this Friend of Bangkok somehow divined that Cast is broke, a “hater” of rich people and Republicans, cares too much about paying taxes and lying under oath, needs to “go back to school, work harder, stop hating”, has a “mental condition” and doesn’t have the “perspective” that he has.

    I rest my case.

  • Just wanted to add…

    Look at what Lois Lerner did.

    She abused her position with the IRS to prevent legitimate tax exempt organizations from registering with the IRS (or delaying their registration to prevent them from taking part in the 2012 elections) —— simply because they were conservative and she disagreed with their politics, which is against the law and a violation of the Constitution.

    She literally ‘attempted’ to manipulate an election using her official actions.

    Yet, not only were there no charges brought against her —- but the Obama DOJ never even opened a serious criminal investigation by the FBI against her.

    She was allowed to retire with full benefits. That’s a punishment? LOL.

    If Ivanka Trump did something to prevent Liberal organizations from participating in an election, do you honestly think she’d get the same treatment? Would you all give Ivanka Trump a “free pass” if she did the same thing that Lerner did?

    No? Thank you, you just proved my point. 🙂

    What about Eric Holder’s DOJ?

    His DOJ was involved in the Fast and the Furious, which allowed thousands of illegal weapons to be sold in the US on purpose, which led to the murder of a Federal Agent (and tons of other murders likely).

    Yet no charges were brought against anybody in his DOJ.

    Only Dennis Burke had to resign his job, without any charges brought, LOL.

    …and a person WAS MURDERED from this operation.

    What if Donald Trump Jr. or Roger Stone were involved in the Fast and the Furious?

    Would you agree to give them both a free pass? Or is politics guiding your emotions? LOL.

    What about Hillary?

    Hillary violated the law by PURPOSELY moving classified emails to a non-secure server to avoid having to honor “Freedom of Information Act” (FOIA) requests for those emails — which is illegal.

    She literally did an “end run” around the Freedom of Information Act and got caught red handed. LOL.

    Yet no charges were brought and the FBI gave immunity to her minions.

    If Trump’s wife or Roger Stone’s wife did something similar, would you agree to give them a free pass too?

    No? That’s what I thought.

    **All of these situations involve far more serious charges than what Roger Stone was convicted of.

    Yet no liberals here wish to even discuss these things in detail.

    Gotcha. That’s checkmate, people. 🙂

    Have a great day. 🙂

    • It appears that you are equally misinformed or uninformed about as many subjects as your buddy, Bang-tard. Not that it stops either one of you from opining your strong opinions about things you know nothing about.

      Maybe you could explain to Frank Report readers exactly how “tax-exempt organizations” would have participated in the 2012 elections or any other elections for that matter.

      I could be wrong here but I’ll assume you know that only individuals can vote. So, therefore, you would know that tax-exempt organizations can not vote.

      But it’s obvious you don’t know that tax-exempt organizations under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code — which are the ones that can accept tax-deductible contributions — are prohibited from engaging in activities to influence legislation in a substantial way, including participating in any campaign activities that support or oppose any particular political candidate.

      So, even if Lois Lerner did what you claimed she did — for which you have offered zero proof — how could the delayed granting of Section 501(c)(3) tax-exempt status to some charitable organizations have influenced the 2012 elections?

      There are, of course, tax-exempt organizations under Section 501(c) (4) of the Internal Revenue Code (and other sections as well) that can engage in political activities – but contributions to those organizations are not tax-deductible. And those organizations that choose to operate as Section 501(c)(4) organizations do not need to wait for a ruling from the IRS — all they need to do is inform the IRS of their intent to do so.

      PS/I literally can’t wait to read your response to this. I’m guessing it’s going to have a lot of ALL CAPS in it.

      • 7.5 hours later — and still no response. Maybe Friend of Bangkok lives in a time zone with a 12-hour difference from mine. Or maybe Friend of Bangkok simply has no explanation for her/his total lack of understanding of the Internal Revenue Code. Time to quietly slink away FOB…

        So pitiful…

  • Actually, no. Here, Bangkok uses the classic tactic of misdirection: “Cast the First Stone” doesn’t mention Al Sharpton, but Bangkok uses him as a straw man to suggest CtFS is being a hypocrite. If this were a legal proceeding, no judge would allow impeachment like this. Al Sharpton is completely irrelevant to CtFS’s opinion that Roger Stone himself is the problem. (Also, Stone will never be allowed to argue in court, “But Hunter Biden!” or “But Al Sharpton!” because they won’t be on trial, Stone will.)

    Bangkok also says that Stone was convicted of minor offenses. This might be true to a layperson, but a conviction for lying is can be devastating. Under the Federal Rules of Evidence rules 608-609, after a conviction for a dishonest act or false statement, that person is deemed to have a character for untruthfulness. It doesn’t matter that Stone was pardoned, because acceptance of a pardon is “a confession of” guilt. Burdick v. United States (1915). Thus, for any legal matters Stone faces from now on, should Stone testify, the trier of fact (judge or jury) hears that he has a character for untruthfulness, compounded by his admission of that fact by accepting the pardon.

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