This is Part 3 of MK10ART’s deep dive into the fall of Allison Mack. It also features some of her outstanding artwork.
J’ness was a brainchild of “the smartest man in the world,” Keith Raniere.
He created it with the late Pam Cafritz and Marianna Fernandez in 2006.
Kristin Kreuk introduced Allison Mack to J’ness. In turn, Allison recruited her boyfriend, Chad Krowchuk, whom she dated from 2007 through 2009**. [**These dates are a correction from a previous article that said 2008-2010.]
This article focuses on Mack’s descent into the Nxivm cult, through the eyes of her then-boyfriend and the implications of that.
Chad and Allison were the same age. He witnessed first-hand Mack’s transformation from being a skeptic of Nxivm to a full-blown disciple. All the while, he remained skeptical. This appears to have driven a wedge between them, ending their relationship, and culminating in Allison’s Fall.
Chad gave an interview where he described his experience with Nxivm.
“Chad Krowchuk, who still remembers the curious way NXIVM rippled through his social network. He first heard good reviews from [Sara] Edmondson and her husband over dinner one night, and then from his acting friends Kristin Kreuk and Mark Hildreth a few weeks later. But it was his longtime girlfriend, Smallville actress Allison Mack, who finally convinced him to attend his first five-day training with her in Albany.”
article/a38dzj/how-nxivm- rippled-through-vancouver- actors-friend-networks)
Success did not come as easily to Chad as it had to Allison. While she had a secure, full-time acting role on a hit television show, Chad struggled to get acting jobs. Because of the disparity of their incomes, Allison offered to pay the exorbitant $30,000 fees for Chad to enroll in Nxivm workshops.
Chad watched Allison become converted by Nxivm. He said at first, she wasn’t so sure about J’ness/Nxivm. However, in 2007, after Allison took part in a weekend J’ness retreat – she returned completely changed. She was convinced that Nxivm had all the answers and she insisted he give it a try.
“That was the part that scared me the most,” Krowchuk says of his girlfriend’s sudden shift in perspective.
article/a38dzj/how-nxivm- rippled-through-vancouver- actors-friend-networks
In an effort to keep their relationship intact, Chad complied.
Mack was Krowchuk’s most important relationship at the time, so he sucked up all his discomforts and got on a plane to Albany to meet the NXIVM inner circle. He remembers the Socratic question and answer therapies being very Freudian. It seemed just about any life problem could be traced back to a few moments in childhood—the apparent root of everyone’s mommy or daddy issues.
article/a38dzj/how-nxivm- rippled-through-vancouver- actors-friend-networks)
While Chad and Allison were taking Nxivm intensives, their social circle began to change dramatically. In the beginning, they would divide their time equally between Nxivm and non-Nxivm friends; but over time they socialized with only cult members.
Having a dinner party with NXIVM friends meant constantly dissecting your fears and insecurities. If somebody said they didn’t like sharing the food on their plate, for example, other group members would chime in with probing questions in an effort to overcome the block. What would you lose if you stopped the behaviour? Is refusing to share holding you back? Needless to say, it wasn’t a welcome conversation style for everyone.
article/a38dzj/how-nxivm- rippled-through-vancouver- actors-friend-networks)
Krowchuk noted that Nxivm seemed to benefit some actors, like Kristin Kreuk, who claimed that it helped her to overcome her shyness. However, other successful actors, like Nicki Clyne seemed to implode.
Krowchuk could see some of his friends overcoming their insecurities, like Smallville costar Kristin Kreuk, who battled career-stifling shyness. “I felt like I related more to Kristin than anyone there, I could see what the appeal is,” . . . But other acting friends grew more isolated, like Battlestar’s Nicki Clyne. “Nicki, I know she was the first example of somebody who had a decent acting career, she was doing quite well, and then she took the courses and went fuck it, I want to do this thing instead.” At the time, Krowchuk thought there must have been a greater good he couldn’t see, and decided to reserve his judgements.
article/a38dzj/how-nxivm- rippled-through-vancouver- actors-friend-networks)
Chad stuck it out for a couple of years but over time, things fell apart. He and Allison broke up in 2009. Chad did not think, at the time, that Nxivm was dangerous. He did not witness any criminal activity. Nevertheless, he could understand how its teaching methods could be used as a tool for wickedness.
The courses taught that everyone was responsible for their own reactions to the outside word. But that meant a NXIVM coach could turn just about any bad situation around and blame the student for their flawed response. “If a course like this is in the hands of somebody who means well, it’s harmless,” he said. “But I always felt like it would be really shitty if it was used in a negative way… It gets dangerous when you start stripping away meaning from everything.”
article/a38dzj/how-nxivm- rippled-through-vancouver- actors-friend-networks)
Before Nxivm, Allison had phenomenal success, many friends, and a loving relationship which would have probably led to marriage and children. But the sadistic criminal enterprise, Nxivm, would sink its grip into Mack and take her life down a treacherous detour. Nxivm would replace Mack’s life of success, marriage, friends, and family with a life of submission, abuse, isolation, humiliation, starvation, and crime. As Frank Parlato says of Nxivm’s leader, “Keith’s only goal was to destroy human beings.”
Is Allison more of a victim or perpetrator? Was she just a gullible puppet that Nxivm easily took over? Or did Nxivm provide an outlet for Allison’s hitherto unexpressed inborn inclinations?
Mack seemed to take to Nxivm like a duck to water while her boyfriend remained firmly on terra firma. Kristin Kreuk claims to have walked away stronger; while Nicki Clyne’s life appears to have, like Allison, crashed and burned.
Chad Krowchuk’s story is pivotal in understanding Allison’s Fall. Not only does it give a glimpse into Allison’s initiation into the Nxivm cult, it also illustrates how determined she was to continue with Nxivm. When the person closest to her, her intimate partner, one whom she generously doled out tens of thousands so he could join too, backed out – she dropped him.
Chad really tried, for Allison’s sake, to discover what this “greater good” was that Nxivm had for Allison. He and Allison must have had some long conversations about Nxivm and its inculcations. The bottom line is that Chad could see straight through the BS of Nxivm while Allison fell for it, hook, line, and sinker.
There is no doubt that her boyfriend tried to dissuade her from throwing away money to Nxivm. Unfortunately, Frankreport.com didn’t exist yet and Chad didn’t have the facts to realize how bad it actually was. But he knew Nxivm was completely contrived cultish nonsense. Allison, on the other hand, vehemently disagreed. Their relationship was so strong, that Chad took part in exhausting intensives to keep his girlfriend happy and she was willing to pay tens of thousands for him to be a part of it. When Chad wasn’t brainwashed into Allison’s way of thinking, Allison cut Chad out of her life.
On top of this, Allison was so determined to remain in Nxivm, she severed her closest loving relationship.
Allison appears to have put Nxivm above all else in her life. She would later give up her multi-million dollar career and conscript her parents. Seeing how devoted Allison had become to this cult, her parents probably knew that they had to submit to Nxivm too or lose their daughter completely.
Some may argue that she was indoctrinated by a well-organized cult and didn’t stand a chance. However, Chad , and many others didn’t succumb to the teachings to the extent that Mack did. Chad appears to have tried to convince her to leave but Allison wouldn’t listen and fought to stay in Nxivm.
Maybe Chad didn’t try hard enough but he was not privy to the many crimes of Nxivm. No one knew. If Chad was aware of what Nxivm was really doing, he would have no doubt fought harder to convince Allison to leave. Unfortunately for Allison, Chad gave up and left.
Allison was on a destructive path that she fought for and was determined to follow, even if it meant losing the man she loved and had been with for years. The responsibility rests entirely on Allison’s shoulders. She chose the Nxivm lifestyle and eradicated anything in her life that stood in the way. This shows that she was not just a gullible unsuspecting dupe, but a fighter who consciously chose her cause regardless of all of the doubt, dubious teachings and activities. This shows more determination (guilt) than innocence in her participation in Nxivm.
“Kristin Kreuk introduced Allison Mack to J’ness. In turn, Allison recruited her boyfriend, Chad Krowchuk, whom she dated from 2007 through 2009**. [**These dates are a correction from a previous article that said 2008-2010.]”
What the…do you know 1 thing about her story? I mean one thing that isn’t a lie?
First off, she entered WITH her boyfriend (she was with him before 2007), Kreuk recruited both (he recognize it (without name KK)…
Allison entered fall 2006 with him, they were both unimpressed and Allison wanted to give up the intensive BEFORE the first week was done…
Then KK used Allison’s faith in her to keep them in the cult…
After some weeks, she dragged Allison into J’ness and something happened to Allison…she went from someone with red light and alarm ringing to a student following the cult…
“He witnessed first-hand Mack’s transformation from being a skeptic of Nxivm to a full-blown disciple. All the while, he remained skeptical”
He didn’t remain skeptical…he was in it until 2010 (after they broke up), so he liked it…Also, SHE was skeptical, he agreed with her (because he didn’t care much about Allison) and it’s KK that convinced Allison.
You’ll notice that it’s not an interview of Chad but a “translation” of it…not based on the fact.
The real way the story happened is Allison AND Chad were dragged into an intensive (10 days if I recall correctly), After a couple of days, Allison emitted doubts about this whole thing and Chad agreed.
Unfortunately, Allison admired KK and when KK convinced Allison to try harder, she was dragged to something chad was not asked to come to.
After that, Chad noticed that Allison started to change a lot.
“Mack was Krowchuk’s most important relationship at the time, so he sucked up all his discomforts ”
BS, he was laying eye on another person around Allison…this is why he is so cautious about naming her…
Also, Chad was specially liking Allison’s money.
Outside of Nxivm, he was also enjoying the great life. Allison is a generous person (I say is because her Nxivm days are behind her and before it, she was like that).
“Before Nxivm, Allison had phenomenal success, many friends, and a loving relationship which would have probably led to marriage and children.”
…many friends, no, we never have many friends…the proof is Allison believed in KK, trusted her and in return was betrayed by her…
Loving relationship? by a guy who was using her? a guy who was more interested in the wellbeing of someone else than his fantastic girlfriend.
Where was he when needed? He didn’t have a care in the world.
She would have all this but certainly not with those you refer to.
“Is Allison more of a victim or perpetrator? Was she just a gullible puppet that Nxivm easily took over? Or did Nxivm provide an outlet for Allison’s hitherto unexpressed inborn inclinations?”
So, you post a barely accurate article that while being incorrect is still showing how she was destroyed but you still ask this question?
GET A LIFE…LEAVE HER ALONE…you don’t understand what happened, interpret many things, use terrible sources.
Vice never consider the reality of the fact, they gave more credit to Edmondson ignoring her implication in all of Nxivm)
They frequently transformed what was said against Allison and even when things were debunked, they continued…
Vice is certainly not a good source for fact but particularly on this story, they didn’t get 1 thing right.
At no point, they tried to know Allison “PRE” nxivm…they only listened to the biased side and ignored the trial information (unless it was against Allison)
“Mack seemed to take to Nxivm like a duck to water while her boyfriend remained firmly on terra firma. ”
LIE, he stayed after their relationship stopped…
“Chad Krowchuk’s story is pivotal in understanding Allison’s Fall.”
No, as it happened before she was coerced and this version is inaccurate and false.
“The bottom line is that Chad could see straight through the BS of Nxivm while Allison fell for it, hook, line, and sinker.”
Once again, it’s BS as Allison clearly was not falling for it.
To be honest, knowing Chad, I believe he could have helped Allison to make her mind when KK tried to get her into it…
Allison is the one who didn’t felt it was right. NOT HIM.
But Allison trusted KK (she said enough that she admired Kreuk).
“There is no doubt that her boyfriend tried to dissuade her from throwing away money to Nxivm. ”
False, and he was way too happy to use her money himself.
You talk without knowing Chad, and worse, without knowing Allison.
You make no sense, use shady sources, start to pretend you care about Allison but then try to make up false stories about her…What kind of pathetic human does this? You don’t need to answer)
“On top of this, Allison was so determined to remain in Nxivm, she severed her closest loving relationship.”
Not until 2012…
“Some may argue that she was indoctrinated by a well-organized cult and didn’t stand a chance. However, Chad ”
First off, Chad wasn’t the target. Second, he was falling for it…he stayed AFTER they broke up.
“Allison was on a destructive path that she fought for and was determined to follow, even if it meant losing the man she loved and had been with for years.”
You, once again talk without knowing a thing…and talking about compassion and how you feel bad for her by trying to pretend that she did that to herself?
Then let me tell you that Allison should not be sued as THEY ALL (the victims) FELL FOR THE SAME THING. And if you don’t know how cults work (and you don’t), avoid the subject and continue your childish “art)
The only thing you showed with this article is how disconnected from reality you are, how little you care about the facts…
You know nothing, you use an article (from a tabloid source) who isn’t interviewing directly Chad (who is also a shady source by himself as he chose to avoid to point HIS responsibility).
You talk about Allison saying she was on a destructive path (to justify the rage and obsession) while ignoring the FACT that all the victims follower this exact SAME PATH.
If the cult tool used against Allison (who was genuinely targeted by the cult, not Chad who was penniless and used Allison’s money) and it’s not an excuse for her falling into it
Then, the same excuse makes the “victim” that got Allison in her forced criminal life (if we can call it like that as she collected collaterals) not victims at all.
The equation is simple, no victims, no crimes…let’s release Allison and forget about this story…right?
IT’S A CULT, this is what they do and LIKE IT OR NOT, Allison is an absolute, GENUINE VICTIM…not a perpetrator (or else Jayes, India, and Sylvie are too)
Not a criminal as the only crime was collecting collateral UNDER COERCION
But exclusively a victim.
You can’t accept one thing as an excuse for one side but ignore it for the other side.
Allison is a victim of a cult, a victim of the flawed justice system which failed to prove 90% of the accusations and now, she is a victim of your lies.
Be proud of being this kind of being [redacted]
Help us understand. You profess to know more about what happened with Kreuk and Mack than anyone here, How? Were you part of the Smallville/Vancouver crowd at this time? Were you close to Kreuk or Mack?
Don’t take offense…but how do you know so much? Tell us, and that will give credence to your views.
This poster is just another [redacted] and doesn’t actually know Allison Mack. Also because she’s probably [redacted] . Also ESL wants to believe that Allison is solely a victim so twists or won’t acknowledge any information that contradicts that world view. [redacted]
Just read these two articles [redacted]
Who is twisting the fact here?
Wow, so calling someone an “obsessed fan” or even a “fan” requires censorship. Frank, do you know that ESL stands for English as a Second Language. That’s not derogatory, that’s an explanation for why this poster’s comments read the way they do and explains the reading comprehension issues. ESL classes are given and advertised all over.
If this is the way you are going to censor comments, you should be delivering one big fat mea culpa to one of the biggest targets or your racism and trollish articles of the past 4 years. I’m no fan of Sultan AT ALL I think he is a redacted, redacted who needs to seek redacted pronto if he hasn’t already, but your constant use of this image https://i0.wp.com/frankreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/sultan.jpg?w=600&ssl=1 labeling it as a “depiction” of him, calling him all sorts of things from possessed to spanky, and your articles about his jacking off make you an enormous hypocrite if suddenly now, you aren’t even going to allow comments calling other posters, like Sultan, and ESL a “fan.”
You have no one to blame but yourself for the cesspool that is your comment section. From the very start of your DOS reporting, I saw many comments from different posters, some of whom were former cult members, imploring you to curb the toxic comments from the likes of Scott and Omar and not be so salacious, vulgar, and derogatory in your own writings. You can’t hide from your ridiculous, misogynistic man-making site or your shady (maybe criminal) business and financial shenanigans, and now you certainly can’t run from the years of misogyny and racism you’ve displayed and cultivated on this blog.
I will respond to your comment in a separate post, as soon as I have time. Let me only say now that I disagree with most of it.
Understand what? what is the point? and doing it over here while they like so much to twist everything.
And I don’t take offense, everyone is entitled to believe me or not, I don’t feel the need to give any proof as in anyway, you are on FR and here, anything i’ll say will be useless.
Just look at this article…no proper source, just deformation of the info. Ignorance of the circumstances, the facts or anything that was demonstrated during the trial.
And this is one of many articles!
It’s an endless fight that bring back old lies to try to drag Allison in the mud…
Ignoring what is know factually, ignoring the excuses given by the victims to explain who they felt for it…Ignoring that of all the victims , Allison was amongst those the most abused.
It’s always the same thing around here.
Still with the same old shtick of trying to cast the blame onto others instead of Allison? Kristin left. Chad left. Numerous others left. Some left within a few days. Some left after a few years. Some left after several years. But what did Allison do? Choose the cult again and again. She had plenty of opportunities to leave but not only stayed with them as a member, she dove in deep and took over the role of Pimp Cafritz to deceive people into having sex with the grubby one, a conman old enough to be her father when she had much better choices available to her as partners. Even Sarah Edmondson who was in deep left after realizing what the branding stood for which Allison Whack knew all about. Allison may have been a victim initially, but she became a perpetrator years after the fact. She may have really thought she was initially doing good, but stop this silly nonsense about her being some innocent victim who had nothing to do with her situation.
Kreuk didn’t leave. She lied about leaving. Frank Parlato knows so.
Not until after the branding story came out. She lied about leaving years before.
Kristin didn’t left, Chad didn’t left until 2010…after the breakdown(and he wasn’t a target)
Allison was heavily targeted by the cult (it is clearly known but nevermind)
“She had plenty of opportunities to leave but not only stayed with them as a member, she dove in deep and took over the role of Pimp Cafritz to deceive people into having sex with the grubby one, a conman old enough to be her father when she had much better choices available to her as partners.”
And thts is another case of twisting the thruth…not going to answer once again those empty allegation based on outdated info debunked long ago…get a life because you are a terrible troll.
“Even Sarah Edmondson who was in deep left after realizing what the branding stood for which Allison Whack knew all about”
She knew nothing and even ignored the proof to continue with her lies…Edmondson is one of the biggest enabler…
Allison was coerced to do the crime she did…Edmondson was a criminal for 20years just for greed…Atleast make a proper choice when you try to defend your point of view…
“Allison may have been a victim initially, but she became a perpetrator years after the fact”
Nope, she didn’t…under the same excuse the other victim are not perpetrator…
Was she coerced yes or no.?
Was she starved, abused, sleep deprivated yes or no?
You are the one trying to blame everything on Allison without the slightest proof and all while making no senses.
I use fact to proof my point and you use what? allegations …
” but stop this silly nonsense about her being some innocent victim who had nothing to do with her situation.”
Ok then let’s cancel the trial because she did the same as the other victim and if she isn’t a victim, there are no victims…
No victims, no crimes, simple as this.
If you want to argue, try better than using the lies you read…i advice you to actually pay attention to what was said in the trial instead of listening to allegations.
Also, you posted about victimizing Allison is wrong (while it’s a fact that she was a victim) but use edmondson who used people for her incomes FOR MORE THAN A DECADE…and what is she doing now? she play the victim…
Once again, choose better your arguments.
Gas lighting is simple to understand. LOL
It is not nearly as complicated as MLMs or Ponzi schemes. LOL
Next week I will be having a Plano, Texas minor celebrity as my surprise guest. LOL
Please turn the dial to Building Fortunes Radio for this memorable event this Saturday night at 8:30pm. LOL
To 9:15 pm
Scott, your platform has outdated security settings and does not provide https. I generally avoid such sites like many others.
http make your browser vulnerable to network-based downgrade attacks on websites you visit.
Scott, you are always concerned about security and fraud protection but only when it comes to MLM, but http makes users vulnerable to attacks from the Internet.
Three Allison Mack stories in month! LOL
If Frank publishes just 5 more stories this month, [redacted] will feel like it’s his first Hanukkah! Eight days of presents. LOL
Really appreciate these deep dives, MK10. Helps me better understand what happened to my sister.
One factor I think is important to always remember in Allison’s defense is that unlike some others who were obviously in NXIVM for financial gain from the get-go to the bitter, reluctant end is that Allison really believed the bullshit that she was “empowering” and liberating herself and her friends. I’m impressed she even paid for her then boyfriend’s NXIVM courses out of her own pocket to help him whereas the grifters like Lauren and Nancy were always on the take, never helped a soul financially or otherwise and knew full fucking well they were selling teachings so toxic at least two young women (my sister and Kris Snyder) suicided themselves while others suffered psychotic episodes that might have had the same result — a result that Keith (and possibly others) fully intended, orchestrated and Keith once even boasted about.
Allison’s actions show she never suspected any malicious intent and had the opposite intentions for good. Same can’t be said for ANY other criminal defendant in this case.
Well, Allison went on the bully girls to sleep with Raniere. So, even if she started out ignorant, she continued on, refusing to accept that she was wrong about Nxivm. This led to her fall. She went from overzealous new convert to tyrant as time went on.
“But another woman who spoke with two of Mack’s alleged DOS slaves at length says that during the very same period, Mack was deep into her role as a “master” of DOS and running the organization with brutal efficiency. “These slaves said Mack was incredibly intimidating, cruel and punitive,” says this woman, who declined to speak on the record because of the ongoing case. The slaves told her that Mack threatened to release the collateral she had gathered on them if they didn’t sleep with Raniere. “You made a lifetime vow!” she says Mack screamed at them. “She berated them and told them they were worth nothing, that they were weak and couldn’t uphold their word,” says the woman. She told them if they refused her orders, dated other men, left the group, or refused sex with Raniere, they would be destroyed. Both women were in Mack’s “slave pod,” and both were eventually branded. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/how-smallvilles-allison-mack-went-actress-sex-cult-slaver-1112107
And you consider hollywoodreporter a reliable source? A reliable source is court testimony! But since I see you even present false information from clickbait articles as facts, I’m not surprised about that.
Lauren Salzman and her mother, Prefect Nancy Salzman, explained to Mack that India Oxenberg made a vow that is “in keeping with her inner integrity”. Breaking the vow will “not be in alignment with her inner integrity.”
Mack, Oxenberg and Clyne have made a pact to go to prison, saying privately they are ready to walk into prison tomorrow if Raniere could be free today. Salzman said she wanted to join them but someone must remain to run the mission.
Mack agreed with Salzman that if India Oxenberg [who is Mack’s slave] goes to prison to save Raniere, it will be “in line with what’s authentic with herself and what’s integrous with herself.”
What does that tell us about what’s in that clipping?
Allison Mack, along with Lauren Salzman and Nancy Salzman, had the plan to make another innocent victim, India Oxenberg, the perpetrator. Mack’s role as the victim in this play is a casting mistake. She is a co-conspirator and will remain so for historiography if there is one about it.
And you pick what you like… a reminder of the whole case:
-Lauren and Nancy are experts in EM, using those to control people.
-Pre conversation, the “witness” (if it exists as it’s a FR feature story, never proved) said CLEARLY that Allison was against putting the blame on India…
-After the conversation, Allison, much like a robot, repeated the exact same word as Lauren…
So if this story is true (and it’s likely not as i doubt anyone talking with Frank could have had the info at the moment this story happened), Allison was not agreeing but was either manipulated mentally to say “yes sir, i’ll do as you say sir”…OR
Much like the fake interview, they used, once again, coercion to force Allison to accept this.
Something that ended up false as Allison never blamed India and, actually, it is said by people closer to the case that the proof India gave to authorities (to save her own ass) was given to her by Allison while she was about to be arrested…
It’s one of the reasons why Raniere is so angry at Allison rather than Lauren (who testified directly).
You can try to twist the facts but most people know the truth.
And also tend not to believe a fake source compared to facts given during a TRIAL.
“Well, Allison went on the bully girls to sleep with Raniere. So, even if she started out ignorant, she continued on, refusing to accept that she was wrong about Nxivm. This led to her fall. She went from overzealous new convert to tyrant as time went on.”
you can’t stick with the facts, can you?
NO, she didn’t…nobody said she bullied anyone…you are the only who transform the facts here.
The fact is Allison was in the same position as ALL THE VICTIM…UNDER COERCION
you can ignore it as much as you want but you just sound senseless…because the coercion is the exact excuse that makes these moments with Raniere not a consensual relation but a rape…
If coercion is not considered for Allison (which is what you do systematically), then it’s non-existing and like i said before, let’s cancel the trial and release the monster…
No victims, no crimes.
“The slaves told her that Mack threatened to release the collateral she had gathered on them if they didn’t sleep with Raniere. “You made a lifetime vow”
No, she didn’t…during the TRIAL, the victims pointed out that it’s Raniere that blackmailed them…
“She told them if they refused her orders, dated other men, left the group, or refused sex with Raniere, they would be destroyed”
Once again, it’s a lie, she never said this (the victim)…the only one destroying others was Raniere…Allison was a victim of this, remember? the trial? real indisputable info? not the story made up in your head?
Jeesh, can’t you stop lying for one article? get a life…
Allison did not explicitly state the collateral would be used to blackmail the women. Instead, the collateral was tacitly used as a blackmail tool. Allison knew the “fuck toys” were like marionettes. The women were all ensnared and coerced by the collateral.
You don’t get to rewrite history.
One thing Frank and the Frank Report has been leaving out for a while…..
Allison pretended to want a plea bargain so the DOJ would tip its hand, and the defense would have better understanding of what the prosecution had on Raniere and friends. Allison was more than willing to be be a team player and help Raniere.
Allison is a victim as much as she is a villain.
She will pay her debt to society and then she can move on with her life.
How would you know that Lauren and Nancy “never helped a soul financially.”
Also how would you know that Allison only had “intentions for good?” If Allison thought DOS was so good, why lie to the slaves she recruited about Keith’s involvement or the brand. And maybe Allison only paid for people’s courses to increase her status in the cult. Edmondson said that Allison wasn’t good at recruiting and often paid someone’s fee to get them to commit. If she couldn’t get people to join, she couldn’t advance and demonstrate her value to her Vanguard. Allison paying for young women to join might just show that she cared far more about luring in fresh, young women for Raniere to prey upon than her money.
Clare used millions / 100 million of her own money in support of the cause. Does that mean she, like Allison, also really believed the bullshit and only had intentions for good? After all, back in 2010 Frank said this, “Those two sisters believe in their heart that the greatest thing that they could do with their inheritance, for the welfare of humanity, is to assist in the growth of the ideals that Raniere has to offer the world. You and I don’t have to believe that, but I swear to you that they believe that. And they should be accorded enough respect to make their own decisions as to how they want to dedicate their lives. And history may accord them a degree of greatness for the courage to follow their convictions while everybody is saying that they are fools.”
Obviously my position changed from 2010 to 2015, when the two sisters perjured themselves about me.
Now, it is possible that they changed over time. In 2010, they may have been sincere – this was pre-DOS.
” If Allison thought DOS was so good, why lie to the slaves she recruited about Keith’s involvement or the brand”
Because, if you had paid attention to the trial, they were forbidden to talk about raniere…
“And maybe Allison only paid for people’s courses to increase her status in the cult.”
Suuuuuure and it paid well as she had no power in the end and was a slave…try better
“Edmondson said that Allison wasn’t good at recruiting and often paid someone’s fee to get them to commit.”
Edmondson knows nothing thou she is right about recruiting…but mostly because until she was forced to recruit,she wasn’t trying hard.
It was about helping her , not about recruiting…this is why Allison didn’t recruited much…she believed in this program.
“Allison paying for young women to join might just show that she cared far more about luring in fresh, young women for Raniere to prey upon than her money.”
Sure, once again, ignore the facts, the coercion Allison was victim of and all the circumstances…i don’t even know why i’m arguing here because you shot yourself in the foot at each sentence and prove you know nothing about the whole case…
Except, the false accusation or inaccurate info, mostly outdated and debunked since then.
Mack also “generously paid” an actress to attend V-week so that Raniere could rape her.
“Around 2015, a young, slender, aspiring actress, referred to in the federal criminal complaint against Raniere as Jane Doe #1 , attracted the attention of Mack. Jane Doe #1 took acting courses at The Source. Mack, seeing she would make a good sex slave for Raniere, paid for Jane Doe #1 to go to Raniere’s expensive 10-day birthday party called V-Week. Mack paid for Jane Doe #1 to come to Albany where the sex-slave cult was headquartered – before the Feds busted up operations.
Hildreth took a liking to Jane Doe #1 and she thought they were going to be boyfriend and girlfriend. When Jane Doe #1 was in Albany, Raniere attempted to seduce Jane Doe #1. But she was interested in Hildreth. She resisted Raniere’s advances but Allison Mack tricked Jane Doe #1 into joining the slave cult by claiming it was a women’s-only sorority. Mack got blackmail-worthy material on Jane Doe #1 which led to her being coerced into getting branded on her pubic region with Raniere and Mack’s initials – and then coerced into having sex with Raniere. [All of this will come out at the trial of Keith Raniere and likely Allison Mack.]
“Mack also “generously paid” an actress to attend V-week so that Raniere could rape her.
“Around 2015, a young, slender, aspiring actress, referred to in the federal criminal complaint against Raniere as Jane Doe #1 , attracted the attention of Mack. Jane Doe #1 took acting courses at The Source”
Allison entered DOS AFTER the V week…so who could she do it?
Also, it’s a known fact that Allison didn’t knew the purpose of DOS…the same message you [redacted] against Allison between cami and raniere points how Allison was not aware of DOS purpose.
Also you stop with the raping allegation immediately as it’s a defamation… 2 years of jail for false criminal accusations so think twice before you make another false accusation…
Allison, much like other were victim of unwanted sex under coercion by raniere…he is the only one who gained from the situation
The story happened in 2016 (jane doe 1)…
Also Allison collected the material but never used it… and all this while being coerced.
It’s in the trial, something you ignore because of course, hollywood life, vice and FR knows better than the DOJ…
“hich led to her being coerced into getting branded on her pubic region with Raniere and Mack’s initials ”
And another facts twisted…the trial showed that it was not Allison’s initial but never mind the true right?
In the US defamation is not a criminal offense. The writer did not swear our a criminal complaint against Allison Mack.
“Allison’s actions show she never suspected any malicious intent and had the opposite intentions for good. Same can’t be said for ANY other criminal defendant in this case.”
Of course she never did…the trial showed she was kept out of it…
But mk don’t care about facts…lies are more interesting as you can make them say what you want.
The people who benefited were the two original co-conspirators, Nancy and Keith. A very few others may have made some money and achieved some illusory status within the cult, but their lives did not improve in any real or meaningful way.
NXIVM was much more than just about money. LOL
Power was another aspect, power over illegal aliens taken into the country, power over others’ free labor, power over f*cking with their minds, aka gaslighting, etc. LOL
Ok but in Allison’s position, where was her power?
SHE WAS A SLAVE
The cult likely helped practically no one. If you claim tens of thousands of people took your courses and around only one percent stuck around to spend thousands of more dollars to waste more of their time in it, would you call that a success rate? Or is it more likely that it was just a placebo effect on those people who thought it helped them? The only thing the cult was good at “helping” others with was in their skills of deception, fault and insecurity magnification, and breaking previous relationships apart.
Like all MLM scams, NXIVM was also very good at “helping” lighten their targets’ bank accounts and putting them in debt. LOL
In the picture where Keith tells Allison to get a ….toy, that was actually part from the emails to Camilla and he NEVER said that to Allison. This was already spread in the past on this site and mislead people.
How do you know what Raniere said/didn’t say to Mack? LOL
Is there an exorcist who specializes in blog hauntings?
How do you know what Raniere didn’t say or said to Mack, fake Scott ghost? LOL
Good point though! LOL
Nutjob666 or NiceGuy666 can’t fool Scott’s ghosts. LOL
That’s right. And FR should clarify IMHO. The “get yourself a sex toy” email was from Keith to Cami not to Allison.
Justice for Allie!
Mack will get her justice when she’s sentenced. LOL
Welcome to FR, they love to mislead…the whole story is based on inaccuracy…so don’t expect truth or facts in an article here.
Allison Mack,an adult, chose of her own Free Will to Serve Somebody.
Gotta Serve Somebody
You may be an ambassador to England or France
You may like to gamble, you might like to dance
You may be the heavyweight champion of the world
You may be a socialite with a long string of pearls
But you’re gonna have to serve somebody, yes
Indeed you’re gonna have to serve somebody
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you’re gonna have to serve somebody
You might be a rock ‘n’ roll addict prancing on the stage
You might have drugs at your command, women in a cage
You may be a business man or some high-degree thief
They may call you doctor or they may call you chief
But you’re gonna have to serve somebody, yes you are
You’re gonna have to serve somebody
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you’re gonna have to serve somebody…