Kim Snyder Takes on Bangkok – Evidence Points to Suicide, Not Murder — or Does It?

Kristen Snyder smiling
Kristen Snyder, who vanished mysteriously in 2003 while attending a Nxivm/ESP intensive.

The opinions of Bangkok are not necessarily the opinions of Frank Report and as a matter of fact are usually the opposite of the opinions of Frank Report. However, the points Bangkok makes in this post are undoubtedly things some people are thinking.

His view is that Kristin Snyder likely committed suicide. He doesn’t say whether she was helped in so doing. What is also not addressed is the question of whether Kristin was pregnant with Keith’s child or whether Keith believed she could be pregnant and if this might have been if not a motive for murder at least an incentive to encourage her – even drug her – gaslight her – into an instability which may have led to her demise.  Is that assisted suicide?

In any event, Bangkok has his or her opinion and here it is. After he offers his opinion, Kristin Snyder’s sister, Kim will do her rebuttal.

By Bangkok

Keith is a bad guy who deserves to spend many years in prison.

But he didn’t murder anybody.

Not a single person here has ever presented EVIDENCE to prove it.

Gossip isn’t evidence of murder.

Fact:

*Kristin wrote a suicide note.

A suicide note was found in Kristin’s vehicle. It is not known if Kristin wrote it or not.

If she really wrote the note, it’s a suicide and not murder. Case closed.

I’m sure the police would have tested the note for her fingerprints.

If she touched the note, she wrote it. If she wrote the note, it’s a suicide. Case closed.

Another thing…

If Keith had ‘murdered’ her, that means a NXIVM employee had forged the suicide note.

However, the suicide note directly implicated NXIVM in Kristin’s demise —– by saying that NXIVM’s teachings had made her crazy enough to end her life.

This is evidence that NXIVM did NOT forge the suicide note.

Why?

Cuz Keith would NEVER have ordered a NXIVM employee to forge a note that spoke negatively about his teachings (and which drew negative attention to NXIVM in the police investigation).

He’s 100% narcissistic and thinks his teachings are gospel.

Thus, Keith could NOT have ordered that suicide note to be forged.

Thus, if it wasn’t forged by NXIVM, Kristin wrote it herself.

Thus, if Kristin wrote it herself, it was a suicide. Case closed.

Another thing… If NXIVM had murdered Kristin, WHO did it? WHO planned it so quickly?

Does anybody believe that Esther (LOL) actually did the dirty work herself? Yeah sure.

Even that fat woman who was given $50k (by Nancy Salzman) could not have done it by herself, since killing somebody with your hands is not an easy task even for a man.

Right after the disappearance of Kristin Snyder, [Name Redacted] was gifted $50,000 to operate a cafe that consisted of a table and a sink. Since Nivm was never known to be generous with its students, it made some speculate that [Name Redacted] might have been rewarded for her silence. Still, there is no evidence that [Name Redacted] had a role in Kristin Snyder’s disappearance. [Name Redacted] was one of the Nxivm 9 – who left the cult in 2009 with Barbara Bouchey and Susan Dones. She has not spoken on the record since then. She was also the woman at the center of Raniere’s command to the Salzman’s to shun their father /ex-husband for his refusal to fire [Name Redacted] who worked for him after she left Nxivm.
Used a gun? Where’s the blood? Where’s the murder scene?

Dragging her body into a car? Driving her car to a remote site to stage the scene? Getting rid of the body so that it was never found?

…and planning all this stuff in a matter of AN HOUR after Kristin left the final class? Yeah sure.

NXIVM employees were IDIOTS who could barely manage hosting classes.

They could not have organized a plan like this in a matter of minutes after Kristin left the class.

Another thing… Keith would NEVER have paid people to follow Ms. Clifford (in the years after Kristin’s death) UNLESS he was trying to get evidence of Kristin still being alive.

This proves that Keith truly believed Kristin was not dead. Keith never had his investigators contact Ms. Clifford and they never tried to intimidate her into doing something. They simply photographed Ms. Clifford for evidence that Kristin was still alive.

Guess what?

A guy who had ‘murdered’ Kristin would never do that.

Why?

Cuz he wouldn’t wanna risk reopening the case (by having Ms. Clifford report this to police) “IF” they were truly guilty of murder.

A real murderer would just MOVE ON and forget about the whole thing.

Everybody here wants to promote the FALSE NARRATIVE that Keith murdered Kristin. But nobody here can refute these facts.

There is ZERO evidence of murder and that’s precisely why NO OFFICIAL INVESTIGATIONS are happening for Keith murdering anybody.

It was a tragic suicide. No amount of shouting at me will change these facts.

***

Kim Snyder

The following is Kim’s line by line rebuttal. Bangkok’s comments are in bold followed by Kim’s rebuttal.

Keith is a bad guy who deserves to spend many years in prison.

No argument here.

But he didn’t murder anybody.

We don’t have proof that he did murder anybody yet, but I do not think we can totally eliminate murder since several people died under suspicious circumstances, including my sister, Kristin Snyder.

Kristin wrote a suicide note.

A suicide note was found in Kristin’s vehicle. It is not known if Kristin wrote it or not.

My sister’s Toyota Tacoma, which was found at Miller’s Landing at Resurrection Bay with a suicide note[s], the second page of which states oddly “no need to search for my body.”
If she really wrote the note, it’s a suicide and not murder. Case closed.

That may be true although Keith argued that the suicide note was meant to mislead investigators and she is really alive.

I’m sure the police would have tested the note for her fingerprints.

I don’t believe that the police did test the note for fingerprints. They simply accepted the note at face value and the remarks of others -including Heidi – that Kristin was acting erratic and, therefore, she committed suicide. No one mentioned to the police that Kristin was talking about being pregnant. That might have made the investigation turn in another direction altogether and maybe the suicide note may have been tested for fingerprints.

If Keith had ‘murdered’ her, that means a NXIVM employee had forged the suicide note. 

It is possible that Keith hired a trained assassin and not a Nxivm employee. We know he paid a couple of ex-CIA agents something like $600,000 allegedly to find her. These were the same kind of men who could also make her disappear.

However, the suicide note directly implicated NXIVM in Kristin’s demise —– by saying that NXIVM’s teachings had made her crazy enough to end her life.  This is evidence that NXIVM did NOT forge the suicide note. … Cuz Keith would NEVER have ordered a NXIVM employee to forge a note that spoke negatively about his teachings (and which drew negative attention to NXIVM in the police investigation).  He’s 100% narcissistic and thinks his teachings are gospel.

This is one of the strongest pieces of evidence that Keith did not have a hand in Kristin’s murder [if she was murdered]. However, if he did order the note to be written that way, it could be argued that it is a brilliant bit of subterfuge. By pointing the finger at Nxivm as the cause of her suicide, he would eliminate the suspicion that he murdered her – for who would ever point a finger at Nxivm being the cause of her suicide if Nxivm was her murderer. Very crafty thinking and the kind Keith prided himself on.

That is not to say that he did it. We have no evidence at this point, either way.

Another thing… If NXIVM had murdered Kristin, WHO did it? WHO planned it so quickly? Does anybody believe that Esther (LOL) actually did the dirty work herself? Yeah sure.

If may not have been planned so quickly. It might have been planned over the week or so that Kristin was talking about being pregnant and causing panic in Nxivm from Anchorage to Albany.

Even that fat woman [Name Redacted] who was given $50k (by Nancy Salzman) could not have done it by herself, since killing somebody with your hands is not an easy task even for a man.

If Kristin was killed, whoever did it probably had accomplices. I doubt it was [Name Redacted] and certainly not her alone.

Used a gun? Where’s the blood? Where’s the murder scene?

The murder scene could have been anywhere. It need not be in Seward. Just because her truck was there does not mean my sister was there. Alaska is a big country. In her condition, Kristin might have gone anywhere with anybody and out in the remoteness, she might have been murdered. Not necessarily in a car either.

Dragging her body into a car? Driving her car to a remote site to stage the scene? Getting rid of the body so that it was never found?

Bangkok, you’re missing the point. No one said my sister was put in her own vehicle. I do not believe for one minute that if she was murdered that she was murdered in her own vehicle. Her vehicle was left behind when she left the Nxivm intensive. She was driven home by Elaine Smiloff. Kristin was never seen again. Her truck remained at the hotel where the intensive was when Kristin left.

The Westmark Hotel in Anchorage where the final intensive for Kristin Snyder was held.
This is the route that went from the Westmark Hotel to Kristin Snyder’s home. Kristin left the Westmark without her truck. How did it get to Seward? Did Kristin go back to the Westmark and pick it up? Or did someone else drive away with it? The keys were supposedly in the Nxivm room that Esther was using as an office. Did Esther hand the keys to someone or did Kristin come back and sneak in and get the keys? We don’t know.

Next we find the truck in Seward with a suicide note that has never been positively identified as being written by Kristin. So no, it would be hard to murder her in her own truck and then dispose of the body, etc.

But, if the truck was driven by someone else to the supposed murder scene and Kristin was taken from her home after Elaine dropped her off to someplace else – nowhere near Seward – that might explain a lot.

One thing that troubles me is that Esther told Heidi [Kristin’s spouse] that Elaine was going to stay with Kristin until Heidi got home. Yet Esther told Elaine not to stay with her but to drop her off and leave.

If Esther does not know more about this, I’ll be very surprised. She may hold the key to the mystery and, of course, she is not talking,

Nobody is talking. All these people who could shed some light on this are not talking, not Ed Kinum, not Esther Chiappone Carlson, not Karen Abney, not Nancy Salzman or [Name Redacted] or Raniere.

Keith Raniere and Nancy Salzman

No one will talk. Why not?

…and planning all this stuff in a matter of AN HOUR after Kristin left the final class? Yeah sure.

No one said this was a hastily prepared murder. It was not done in an hour. If it was done, it was planned for days.

NXIVM employees were IDIOTS who could barely manage hosting classes.

They may have been idiots but they were able to successfully gaslight my sister.

They could not have organized a plan like this in a matter of minutes after Kristin left the class.

Again, who’s to say it was not preplanned?

Another thing… Keith would NEVER have paid people to follow Ms. Clifford (in the years after Kristin’s death) UNLESS he was trying to get evidence of Kristin still being alive.

This is a decent argument. But Heidi has said they did things like steal her mail and mess with her utilities – the same kind of things they did to others to ensure their silence. It was more than just follow her stealthily. They let her know they were watching her. That was meant to intimidate her.

This proves that Keith truly believed Kristin was not dead. Keith never had his investigators contact Ms. Clifford and they never tried to intimidate her into doing something. They simply photographed Ms. Clifford for evidence that Kristin was still alive.

I disagree. Keith is a psychopath and he wanted to make a show of believing she was still alive. He may have hired people to “find” Kristin – but not try too hard. I have wondered if he hired the same ex-CIA people to “find” her that he hired to kill her. Of course, I have no proof of this.

A guy who had ‘murdered’ Kristin would never do that. Why? Cuz he wouldn’t wanna risk reopening the case (by having Ms. Clifford report this to police) “IF” they were truly guilty of murder. A real murderer would just MOVE ON and forget about the whole thing.

Bangkok, you are forgetting that Keith is a psychopath. He would revel in the excitement of killing someone, then writing a suicide note blaming his teachings for her suicide, then claiming she is still alive and even making a show of hiring ex-CIA agents, etc. to find her knowing they will never find her for her body is nowhere to be found.

There is ZERO evidence of murder and that’s precisely why NO OFFICIAL INVESTIGATIONS are happening for Keith murdering anybody.

Yes, we are still trying to find evidence and, hopefully, we will – and no, Bangkok we are not shouting at you although at times it seems you like to shout at anyone who does not agree with you.

The truth is what counts.

 

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Bangkok
Bangkok
3 years ago

Hey Frank.

It’s about time you posted my deleted comments from this thread.

Kimmy needs to take on those comments as well.

Have a nice day.

Frank Parlato
Admin
3 years ago
Reply to  Bangkok

She will. Coming soon.

Kim
Kim
3 years ago

Kim Snyder
Gary, how old are you- are you single? I am. The comments are flattering-I have NEVER been so flattered in my life.
The only thing about this whole situation, I have to protect my family and others- while this investigation with my ONLY sister, Kristin continues. I can’t turn to every TOM, Dick and Harry that comes along.
As I said, I am flattered with all of the comments, but again, I MUST keep my family safe, it is imperative that I keep myself safe and NOT try to be out in the public eye too much.
Alabama- thank you for such a sweet poem- wow! I wish I could write like you. Thank you so much!

Dr. Gastone Porter
Dr. Gastone Porter
3 years ago

I think Toni is still gorgeous. The best looking woman on planet earth. Kim is pretty but Toni is the ultimate female.

Gary
Gary
3 years ago

I’d like to know what readers think. Who is the more beautiful Kim or Toni Natalie – at a much earlier date of course? Toni is a lot older than Kim so it would not be fair to judge them together as they are now. But when Toni was in her prime (40 or 50 years ago) and Kim today. Who is the better beauty? Hint: I think Toni was once attractive but Kim is the bomb.

Zelda
Zelda
3 years ago

I can well believe Kim is a beauty pageant winner

G. T. S.
G. T. S.
3 years ago

I agree Kim is sterling she is beautiful and she is wonderful but is she single ? Inquiring minds want to know?

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

Nice weather in northern Brooklyn. It is now 68°F (20 °C).

Nice to eat a nice big sundae now without thinking about the calories or diets.

Think Nicki now thinks so too.

Johnny Strong, Alabama USA
Johnny Strong, Alabama USA
3 years ago

Roses are red
Violets are blue
I was the first to tell you
Kim I adore you

Daffodils are yellow
Poinsettias are red
I took one look at your picture and
I just lost my head

Orchids are indigo
Dahlias are blue
Kim if you accept my confession
Just keep on being you.

Gary
Gary
3 years ago

I find Kim pleasing and alluring. She is
prepossessing and as pretty as a picture, and I love her picture.
I bet she’s charming and delightful and appealing as an ice cream sundae.
She is so engaging that I’m surprised she not engaged. For she is more than winsome, she is ravishingly gorgeous. Call if heavenly stunning and glamorously
irresistible. She is bewitching
beguiling
graceful
elegant
exquisite
aesthetic
artistic
decorative
magnificent
bonny
hot
tasty
divine
knockout
drop-dead gorgeous
fanciable
easy on the eye
foxy
beauteous
comely
fair and don’t forget pulchritudinous

Gargantuan
Gargantuan
3 years ago

Kim is superb. Best of the best. Hottest of the Hotties. Great head on her shoulders too.

Gastone Porter MD
Gastone Porter MD
3 years ago

Just to set the record straight. I find Kim very attractive and intelligent.
But I find Toni Natalie the most attractive and beautiful woman in the world.

Kim
Kim
3 years ago

Kim Snyder
Rat I found your comments in an article on Art Voice, implicating that you went with Edgar, to Mexico – and also implicating yourself, in Kris’ death – that it had to happen. Why? Were you on the scene of the crime when it happened?
Is Edgar still with you? If NOT – where is he now? Are you still in Mexico?
Why did Kris’ death have to happen? What happened on that scene and who was there? When? Why?
You have implicated yourself in this……what else do you know? Please come clean and tell us. This is critical to us having closure.
Keith is locked away and Salinas has NO power now. Please call Frank and talk to him or me. Please. Help us!

Jerry G.
Jerry G.
3 years ago

Kim is the hottest best and smart too. Keep it real and keep writing Kim. You are the bomb.

Kim
Kim
3 years ago

Kim Snyder
Rat- please stay with us in this fight. That threat is VOID!!!!!!! NXIVM is OVER!!!!
Salinas and Keith are NO longer in power- and there is NOTHING they can do to you.
I beg you to stay in this fight with us.
I need all of the information that I can get.
Were you on the scene of my sister Kris’ death? Where are her remains? Please stick this out with us.
To Ed, Esther, Nancy, [Name Redacted], and others please trust Frank and me. We will try and get you the best deal possible. Please trust us. Call Frank or me- and just tell us what happened, where, and where her remains are.
Please. Kim

Circle Bangkok Jerk
Circle Bangkok Jerk
3 years ago

Bangkok go home. You are a fool. Stop your putrid comments and go back to your practice of sepuku. I hear that you have excellent aim.

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

Kim. You are a hero. Don’t stop

Salinas the Cat
Salinas the Cat
3 years ago

Rat go eat cheese

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

That rats or mice love cheese is a myth.
They eat it when they can’t find anything better.
Peanut butter loves mice and rats much more. Try it out.

Dee
Dee
3 years ago

In a battle of wits between Bangkok and Kim -Kim won hands down.

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

Don’t stop Kim till you find out the truth

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

A lot of unanswered questions. Law enforcement should open this case

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

One more thing Rat. You’re a fink.

The Cat
The Cat
3 years ago

Rat. I advise you to shut your mouth or I’ll open my mouth and Mexico does not like Rats. Don’t play with me. You know what I’m saying

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  The Cat

What’s wrong, pussycat? Something smells fishy. LOL

John Strong
John Strong
3 years ago

Kim. I’m not a stalker like that Gastone guy was with Toni or that Sultan dude is with Kristin but I think you are adorable. I won’t write any more just wanted to tell you. Keep you spirit up. I’m a Christian.

Tom D. Harry
Tom D. Harry
3 years ago

There are a lot of suspects here. The only one in the clear is Kim and her family. Where was Clare Bronfman at the time ? She’s one murderous c—t.
I’d check her whereabouts. She would kill for Raniere in a heartbeat

A Strong Guy
A Strong Guy
3 years ago

Kim.
You should enter a beauty contest. You would win.

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

Kim you deserve a lot of credit. Anybody else Would have dropped this and let it go. You deserve kudos and our prayers.

Rose
Rose
3 years ago

Keith should get a life sentence. He’s behind this whether she was murdered or suicide.
He is going away for a long long time. But the family deserves to know the truth.

A knowing friend
A knowing friend
3 years ago

Kim. Look at Esther Chiapone she knows a lot.

HH
HH
3 years ago

IDK what year our little Banger’s disintegrated to in terms of his sexual development but apart from NX’s “Society of Pussies” it’s been decades since boys got bully props for mocking girls on the playground.

Get your kicks above the waistline, Sunshine? …Try Viagra old man.

Bangkok
Bangkok
3 years ago

Howdy people.

Since Frank has given me a subtle challenge to address other evidence (pregnancy motive, etc), I shall respond to other elements of this case.

Yes, I’m gonna clean Kim’s clock in this debate once and for all. 🙂

==================

Firstly, with regard to the pregnancy motive for murder…

If Kristin was truly pregnant by Keith, then (from an unbiased investigator’s point of view) Heidi Clifford had more of a motive to kill Kristin than Keith did.

Why?

…Because Heidi Clifford was Kristin’s ‘partner/husband’ in their lesbian relationship.

Heidi Clifford wanted Kristin to love her. Heidi Clifford was NOT okay with Kristin fucking other people, especially men.

Heidi Clifford wanted to satisfy her lover, but she just didn’t have that equipment (a penis). This would have made her especially jealous of any ‘man’ who was satisfying Kristin in a way that Heidi Clifford couldn’t.

However, this situation was far more severe than just fucking another man. Heidi Clifford found out that Kristin was actually PREGNANT and CARRYING THE CHILD of ANOTHER MAN.

That means Heidi Clifford might have to see a living reminder of that other man when Kristin gave birth.

As her partner, Heidi Clifford might have to help RAISE THAT CHILD which was fathered by another man.

*That’s the type of thing that drives husbands/partners to lose their minds with jealously.

Look at police statistics. “Cheating” (with other men) is a major reason why women get beaten or murdered by their partners.

Frank can’t refute this statistic, no matter how much he likes Heidi Clifford. You can’t sweep this statistic under the rug, Frank.

Secondly, if Kristin was ‘shouting’ in class that she was pregnant with Keith’s child (acting like a crazy woman), it would indicate that Kristin had temporarily lost her mind and was behaving in an irrational manner —– not Keith.

Keith was in New York at that time. He wasn’t there.

Therefore, ‘shouting’ that she’s pregnant in class (in Alaska) could not have accomplished anything, other than trying to get attention for herself (which indicates she was mentally unwell that day).

It would seem that Keith was “brushing her off” and “dumping her”. Yet, Kristin WAS THE ONE who wanted Keith to come back into her life —- which indicates she made herself crazy with anger after being USED and DUMPED by Keith.

This makes her suicide note seem more authentic.

She was acting crazy that day.

It just doesn’t matter how she acted during PREVIOUS YEARS while growing up with Kim. It only matters how she acted THAT DAY when she killed herself. That’s how suicide works.

If Kristin had no feelings for Keith (if she wasn’t crazy with anger), then she would have simply visited an abortion clinic and got an abortion, without having to tell anybody about it.

But that’s NOT what she did.

She attempted to leverage her alleged pregnancy to get attention for herself and, when that didn’t work, she threw a tantrum in an attempt to embarrass Keith in front of other classmates.

This only shows how desperate she was (mentally) and how irrational her behavior was, which only adds to the suicide credibility.

She was NOT in a “normal state of mind” that day —– and anybody who ignores this fact is simply ignoring reality.

Kristin Snyder likely killed herself. It was likely a suicide.

However, if she didn’t kill herself, then Heidi Clifford had more of a motive to kill her than Keith.

PS — Heidi Clifford sold Kristin’s truck to pay off a NXIVM bill AFTER Kristin’s death — which proves that NXIVM was not likely involved in her death, since NXIVM would NOT send out a bill to a woman that they ‘murdered’ days earlier, LOL.

Why?

Cuz a murderer is NOT going to draw attention to themselves by harassing their victim’s family during a police investigation just days after a murder. LOL.

On the other hand…If Heidi Clifford killed Kristin, it makes perfect sense why she’d PROMPTLY pay Kristin’s bills after her death — to ensure that all creditors went away and stopped asking questions. That would point to Heidi being guilty, not NXIVM.

It was probably suicide. But if not, Heidi Clifford is the most likely suspect. Not Keith.

That’s it for now.

I’m done cleaning Kim’s clock for now. 🙂

Bangkok
Bangkok
3 years ago
Reply to  Bangkok

Typo: lose their minds with ‘jealousy’ (not ‘jealously’)

🙂

A furry creature who must hide from Mexican Trap
A furry creature who must hide from Mexican Trap
3 years ago

The fear is of Salinas but he do not kill your sister. He make people disappear in his own country. Look to Esther and Ed to explain why Elaine was chosen to take your sister and why she was facing charges at this time for pedophile.

A Southern Gent
A Southern Gent
3 years ago

Kim can I start a fan club?

Yusuf from Buyukcekmece
Yusuf from Buyukcekmece
3 years ago

Kim I just want you to know you are excellent. Intelligent beauteous. So wondrous. Toni Natalie is nothing as good looking as you. You are natural beauty and intelligence too. greeting from Turkey. If you ever come Istanbul tell me you meet family and we show you hospitality. Salome

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

Kim I just want you t

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

Frank must be seriously bored or something to keep promoting a stupid troll.

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Snyder or Bangkok? LOL

Nutjob
Nutjob
3 years ago

Bangcock’s post is a cut-and-paste job. She (he?) won’t answer questions and she is wrong on several things that she submits as fact. Because Bangcock refuses to ever answer my questions to her, I said I wouldn’t reply to this exact same post of hers again. But, due to Kim already doing the brunt of the work, I will do so one last time.

– Why do you think Keith believed his teachings were gospel? I do not believe you are accurate in this statement that you build your argument on. Where did you get your information? In fact, other than FR, how do you know anything about NXIVM?

– Keith taught about suicides. He taught about benefits of horrible things and then would have you discuss and/or write down the benefits of these horrible things. He’d put you in hypothetical situations and force you to pretend like it was occurring. Over the days leading up to her disappearance, Kristen could have easily been told to write a suicide note as a way to “help” in her issues. There have been discussions about this on FR. You continuing to ignore the possibility of anything other than your simplistic “if/then” statements is childish and not genuine.

– Keith said multiple times that he’s “had people killed”. Why do you ignore this? Why would you think Keith would use [Name Redacted]s and Esthers as murderers? He’d hire somebody, dummy. Or do ya think he didn’t have the money or connections to pull off such an impossible task?

– Why’d the truck end up where it did? Think maybe somebody was being set up as plan B?

– Why won’t you tell us YOUR background with NXIVM? Why are we supposed to look at you as anything other than a joke?

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  Nutjob

Nutjob, what class was this suicide excersice taught in? If we knew what class we can see if this is true. Frank has the syllabus for for the Anchorage class and some of the work she did in Albany.
Thanks
M.W

Nutjob
Nutjob
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

The original 20 loosened everyone up to both suicide and divorce. I think murder, too. Can only imagine what they threw at Kristin. I’ll pull my notes and get exact details.

HH
HH
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Keith laid his suicide teachings and mind conditioning out in an EM or Intensive called “Good or Bad.” It was published, I believe, on the Saratoga In Decline blog in 2010 – 2011. Toni Natalie may originally have sent it to John Tighe (She boasted she did) when she ‘retained’ her married, hacker boyfriend although she later claimed the data was obtained through the Mary Pino password she shared with a number of people (after getting caught); however, many claim that password only allowed access to a calendar not the secret NX “tech.”

In his testimony, Mark Vicente described very well how this “Socratic” method for “God and Bad” module worked to force students to accept the “bad” things as “good.”

HH
HH
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Also, Susan Dones told me it was the “Good or Bad” module and Heidi Clifford described (over speaker phone “on camera”) how Kristin Snyder confronted Ed Kinnum and other men in the group over the fact that they couldn’t possibly know how a female victim feels about rape bc they are not female — in response to the NX teachings on rape being a “good” thing for females which is part of the “Good or Bad” module.

HH
HH
3 years ago
Reply to  Nutjob

Nutjob writes:

“ Keith taught about suicides. He taught about the benefits of horrible things and then would have you discuss and/or write down the benefits of these horrible things. He’d put you in hypothetical situations and force you to pretend like it was occurring. Over the days leading up to her disappearance, Kristen could have easily been told to write a suicide note as a way to “help” in her issues.”

This FACT — I know to be true since the days Keith was mentoring Gina and prepping, urging her to ‘suicide’ herself per witnesses — could also explain why Kris Snyder apparently left” TWO “suicide notes.”

I also believe Kris may have been talked into and assisted in working up the ‘courage’ to “go through with it” — words she allegedly uttered to Elaine Smiloff. Then, there’s the 2 truck caravan, the 3 pizza purchases per the receipts from Kris’ truck, the footprints, the truck’s proximity to Elaine’s cabin — just a lot of overlooked evidence that does indicate something closer to murder than suicide.

Bangkok has an annoying habit of lying and omitting facts when restating his fantasy arguments.

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  Nutjob

You’re not doing any better than Bangkok, Nutjob. LOL

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  Nutjob

Why are you so obsessed with Bangkok? LOL
Young looking for a country blumpkin? LOL

Marie White
Marie White
3 years ago

Jan 25, 2002 POA were signed by Tammy Boyer, Jane Markowitz, and Heidi Clifford.

Feb 3, 2003 Kristin disappears.
If you actually read the man-hours put into her search, you will find it’s not many.
Kris, according to her class writing, was planning a trip to Mexico.

February 26, 2003 Heidi Clifford emails Kim Snyder to tell her she is going to Mexico.
Bangcock and Kim have left one very important person in my opinion out of your story and that is no other than Kathy Morton. Why? That’s because Heidi Clifford writes in her journal that she hid a gun in Kathy Morton’s vehicle.

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Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  Marie White

That’s a very interesting point Marie, has anyone checked this?

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HH
3 years ago
Reply to  Marie White

Marie, do you mean POA “Power of Attorney?” Over what? Over Kris Snyder or her belongings? Please elaborate otherwise that is provocative, potentially misleading.

The fact that Kris planned a trip to Mexico is interesting. There was, at that time and beginning in at least 1999 a burgeoning correlation between the Mexican Elites — including the daughter of Mexico’s President, elected with the assistance of the US ATF guarding against voter fraud at the polls there — Anna Fox, who joined ESP / NXIVM shortly after Nancy Salzman joined and came to own the company. Again, my sister Gina told me about this AND I saw some of those brutal clips online myself with Keith & Co. circa 1999 – 2001.

Keith was already using violent film clips, such as the beheadings of Mexican peasant girls, supplied by drug cartel gangs in, at least, 2000 to mind-condition his acolytes and beyond.

A trip to Mexico might have turned out the same for Kris Snyder with, albeit, far fewer scapegoats.

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Anonymous
3 years ago

“Kim Snyder Takes on Bangkok” – Is this supposed to be a challenge? Bangkok, who won’t come on Scott’s show? LOL

“I’m sure the police would have tested the note for her fingerprints.” With the incomplete investigation that was done in this case, I wouldn’t be so sure. LOL

“The keys were supposedly in the Nxivm room that Esther was using as an office.” Why would someone put their vehicle keys in someone’s office? LOL

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Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

No way! Don’t even start trying to throw new shit on the wall. I call bullshit anonymous.

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Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Would you please quit trying to argue with myself, you’re making me look bad? LOL

The wall is almost devoid of sh!t (facts), it’s almost all conjecture and rumor. LOL

You can’t call bullsh!t on yourself. LOL

Do you think Bangkok is so brilliant that Snyder can’t hold a candle to his “intelligent” points? LOL

Do you think the cops did a great job with their investigation? LOL

Why would NXIVM have an office in the hotel, or why put the keys in an office outside of the hotel? LOL

I can’t believe how stupid I am, I am ashamed of myself. LOL

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Frank Parlato is an investigative journalist.

His work has been cited in hundreds of news outlets, like The New York Times, The Daily Mail, VICE News, CBS News, Fox News, New York Post, New York Daily News, Oxygen, Rolling Stone, People Magazine, The Sun, The Times of London, CBS Inside Edition, among many others in all five continents.

His work to expose and take down NXIVM is featured in books like “Captive” by Catherine Oxenberg, “Scarred” by Sarah Edmonson, “The Program” by Toni Natalie, and “NXIVM. La Secta Que Sedujo al Poder en México” by Juan Alberto Vasquez.

Parlato has been prominently featured on HBO’s docuseries “The Vow” and was the lead investigator and coordinating producer for Investigation Discovery’s “The Lost Women of NXIVM.” Parlato was also credited in the Starz docuseries "Seduced" for saving 'slave' women from being branded and escaping the sex-slave cult known as DOS.

Additionally, Parlato’s coverage of the group OneTaste, starting in 2018, helped spark an FBI investigation, which led to indictments of two of its leaders in 2023.

Parlato appeared on the Nancy Grace Show, Beyond the Headlines with Gretchen Carlson, Dr. Oz, American Greed, Dateline NBC, and NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt, where Parlato conducted the first-ever interview with Keith Raniere after his arrest. This was ironic, as many credit Parlato as one of the primary architects of his arrest and the cratering of the cult he founded.

Parlato is a consulting producer and appears in TNT's The Heiress and the Sex Cult, which premiered on May 22, 2022. Most recently, he consulted and appeared on Tubi's "Branded and Brainwashed: Inside NXIVM," which aired January, 2023.

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