Corona Police State Watch
Ah, the irony.
The coronavirus originated in China and the Chinese Communist Party lied about it repeatedly, which helped it spread around the world. And killed tens of thousands.
Now another kind of sick “virus” is spreading around the world. In order to combat the first virus, governments all over the world, and in the USA, are mimicking Communist China.
Almost every nation in the world – and most states in the USA – have become “temporarily” authoritarian.
People are being ordered to stay home, ordered not to go to church, ordered not to meet each other, ordered not to go to parks, and ordered to close their businesses even if it causes financial ruin.
Even if it is the right thing to do – to social distance and stay at home – it does not change the fact that these authoritarian measures violate the US constitution and deprive people of freedom.
Sweden’s model of voluntary compliance might be an example of how a free state can operate. By all means, social distance but do it because it is wise to do – not because you are forced to do so.
Still, it is hard to imagine that there are not some who are happy about the pandemic. I suspect some people believe this is the “happy crisis” that “strong government” advocates have prayed for.
The Bernie dream.
Some people may actually be grateful to China for unleashing it on us for it gives them the opportunity to implement strictures they could never consider introducing without a crisis of this magnitude.
Contact tracing, for instance, might get the public indoctrinated into 24/7 surveillance. Vaccines might become mandatory. Government control of workplaces with potentially no one allowed to work without being subject to testing and, as is being discussed, a special “immunity passport,” may be forthcoming.
None of this could have been imposed without a crisis.
Once government decides who can work and who cannot, the possibilities are interesting and ominous.
A vaccine passport could include a multipurpose microchip which becomes in effect a “body passport.”
Many politicians have already said that before we get to the “new normal” [an Orwellian term if ever there was one], there will have to be many changes. All of those changes will include a diminution of freedom; all will be sold under the banner of “it is for your safety.”
Before this is over, many people in the world may have to ask permission of government to enter public places. This could lead to having to ask permission [perhaps online] to leave your home.
To accept extreme measures, people must be assured that it is done for our safety and is only temporary, We shall find out later if government, once it gets new authority, will relinquish its new powers.
Drones to Watch People
In many parts of America, police are using donated drones to enforce social distancing. Will they give them back when the pandemic ends?
Ironically, the drones were “donated” by DJI, a Chinese company. The donated drones have gone to 43 law enforcement agencies in 22 states.
DIJ is controlled by the Chinese Communist Party.
It is ironic that a lot of people are concerned about what the Chinese government-backed company that manufactures the drones may be doing with data it gathers. Are images the Drones view for American police being sent back to China?
Many are worried about China misusing the images or data. But shouldn’t we be more concerned that police are spying on our people with drones? They are using drones to enforce the suppression of our right to assemble and using donated drones from Communist China!
Reportedly, the drones are being used to monitor areas that aren’t easily accessible by patrol cars. Supposedly, police don’t keep pictures or video and are – so far – using the drones only to find offenders of social distancing and issue warnings.
While police may not be taking photos, it is unknown if the Chinese are receiving images from the drones.
It is of such concern – that the Communist Chinese may be getting images – that the U.S. Army, which was also using Chinese drones – have ordered soldiers to stop using DJI consumer drones and software because of an “increased awareness of cyber vulnerabilities associated with DJI products.”
The Interior Department grounded its fleet of DJI drones at the beginning of this year out of fear they might be utilized by the Chinese for spying.
In civilian America – the corona excuse – everything for our safety – has local police agencies spying on us in every nook and corner, with Chinese-donated drones, and possibly unknowingly sharing these images with the Communist Chinese, the folks that brought us the virus.
Sounds like a good idea.
The drones are being used in Oregon, Washington, California, Texas, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, Virginia, Maryland, New Jersey, and New York.
Track Our Phones and Us Too
Contact tracing – a central feature of government public-health response to the virus – will need to use downloadable apps and hundreds of thousands of people [contact tracers] to find people at risk of infection.
If there is a determination that the public is not cooperating, laws will be made to enforce compliance and to make it easier for government to control the virus [and people.]
If you want to get an idea of how contact tracing will likely work in the US, you might look at how the UK plans to do it this month.
Millions in the UK will be required to track their movements – for their own safety – to limit the spread of coronavirus.
The UK government says hiring is underway for a team of 18,000 people to trace contacts of those infected.
Communities Secretary Robert Jenrick says ”all of society” will be required to download a nationwide app when it is released in mid-May.
How It Works
The UK wants to track down anyone who an infected person was in “prolonged” contact with, to get them into isolation.
What is not clear is if the isolation will be voluntary. Will the isolation be monitored with the apps, or by random contact tracer check-ins?
It is also not clear whether isolation will be at people’s homes, or if they do not live alone, if they will be removed from their home to government isolation facilities.
Scientists don’t agree on “close contact”
The World Health Organization recommends staying one meter apart, while the UK government recommends two meters. Some scientists say two seconds spent one meter apart is as dangerous as spending one minute two meters apart. So in the UK, as the mandatory apps capture distance, it is not clear who will be required to isolate.
The apps apparently cannot track some risk factors, like the length of time spent in proximity with some people and in what setting (inside or outside, well-ventilated or not). If the contact tracing errs on the side of caution, more people will be required to take a test to determine whether they are to be isolated.
The actual risk may have to be determined by “discussions” with contact tracers. Who has final authority is to be determined – the tracer, or the individual.
Contact tracing is already being used in Hong Kong, Singapore, and Germany.
What Will Contact Tracing Look Like in the UK?
Initially, the 18,000-member team will be divided into 3,000 civil servants and health workers and 15,000 call handlers. It is not clear what police powers the civil servants will have – and what obligations call handlers will have to report to law enforcement for monitoring purposes.
The phone system will be used with the tracing app, which everyone who has a smartphone will have to download.
If a user develops coronavirus symptoms, at first, at least, it is up to him or her to let the app inform the NHS.
Voluntary disclosure will trigger an anonymous alert to everyone they recently had contact with, potentially asking/ordering those people to go into quarantine or be tested.
Imagine, you get an anonymous message [and I expect in time everyone will get such a message] that you were in contact [traced by your app on your phone] with someone who said they had symptoms of coronavirus. Now, you are informed that you are required to isolate or be tested.
Many will opt to be tested. If they test negative, they can go about their business, until the next anonymous alert.
If they test positive, they will be required to isolate and all their contacts will, in turn, be alerted that they must isolate or get tested.
If they choose or are allowed to self-isolate, the app can monitor if they stay in place or make contact with anyone else.
Of course, people could secretly leave their cell phones behind when they leave home so the government cannot monitor their movements. This would be a good argument to make carrying cell phones mandatory, at least when one is in isolation.
This is also a good argument for embedded microchips whereby you have no choice but to carry it with you.
For those without smartphones, an alternative suggested is a mandatory Bluetooth-enabled wristband, like those being required in other countries to detect lockdown breaches.
Will Phone App End Lockdown?
Contact tracing, when combined with other authoritarian measures, has been credited with lifting restrictions in other countries.
South Korea used extensive tracing, combined with mass testing. South Korea required citizens to recall their movements, and used credit card transactions, CCTV footage, and mobile phone tracking to piece together where they had been. Then, they required isolation.
However, continued lockdown would mean new outbreaks of the virus would be easier to track.
Covid-19 Tracing App Launched in Australia
Phone tracing is labor-intensive and time-consuming.
Tracers in Ireland had to make about 40 phone calls per infected person. The mobile app is easier. Phone calls are not needed, but everyone must use the app and always keep it with them so that the virus [like their freedom] is suppressed.
Academics advising the UK’s NHS estimate 80% of smartphone users – 60% of the population – would have to actively use it for success. If it is voluntary, people would have to be honest about reporting potential symptoms and inform the NHS.
It is quite possible that the UK, and potentially some states in the US, may make installing an app a condition for leaving lockdown or returning to work.
NHSX, the digital development arm of the UK health service, says the information gathered will never be used for anything but health and research purposes, and the app can be deleted any time the government chooses.
An alternative model by Apple and Google is reportedly harder for hackers or authorities to track and identify specific individuals. But NHSX says a government-controlled tracking system will give government more insight into how the disease spreads and how to make the app more efficient.
The app may be around for a long time – years perhaps – until there is a vaccine [presupposing there is not another pandemic right around the corner].
In the UK, people will become used to government tracking their whereabouts.
See, Over Here in China, We’re Back to Normal!
According to Chinese media, which is controlled by the Chinese Communist Party, China is back to normal.
According to China’s state-run Xinhua News Agency, over one million people visited Shanghai’s 130 main tourist attractions on Friday and Saturday, the first two days of the May Day holiday.
Xinhua reported that Shanghai received 456,000 visitors on Friday and 633,000 on Saturday.
Of course, you cannot believe a word the Communist Chinese say, but the point is obvious: To show western democracies how well the Communist Chinese Party handled the pandemic [they created].
For slaves in China, things are back to normal. The slaves can go to government permitted tourist attractions any time the government lets them.
Implied in this is that, if we embrace a more authoritarian government, we can do the same.
Did it Start in Wuhan Lab?
President Donald Trump contradicted a statement from the Intelligence Community, a community that has been known to be wrong as often as it is right – and to lie to Americans as often as it tells the truth.
Of course, he was criticized and portrayed as stupid in mainstream media.
Trump said he has seen evidence that gives him a “high degree of confidence” that the novel coronavirus originated in a laboratory in Wuhan, China.
He was chided in mainstream media because it contradicted the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, which stated that so far they have not made a high confidence assessment and will continue to “rigorously examine” whether the outbreak “began through contact with infected animals or if it was the result of an accident at a laboratory in Wuhan.”
He might check a third option: That China unleashed the virus on purpose.
Scientists and intelligence professionals say the US may never know the origin of the virus.
However, WHO officials assure us that the virus is “natural in origin.”
“We have listened again and again to numerous scientists who have looked at the sequence and looked at the virus and we are assured that this virus is natural in origin,” Dr. Michael Ryan, executive director of WHO’s Health Emergencies Program, said at a press conference when asked about the virus’ origins.
A 15-page document from intelligence agencies of five countries – the U.S., Canada, the U.K., Australia, and New Zealand – was leaked to Australia’s Saturday Telegraph newspaper.
The dossier states that China’s secrecy surrounding the coronavirus amounted to an “assault on international transparency.”
The dossier treats the outbreak of the virus, including an initial denial by China that the virus could be transmitted between humans, the silencing or “disappearing” of doctors who tried to speak up, the destruction of evidence in laboratories, and the refusal to provide live samples to international scientists working on a vaccine.
China knew about the spread between humans earlier than it said, and knew it was a novel coronavirus earlier than it said, and knew that it spread wider than they reported to the international community in the first weeks of their outbreak.
President Trump said he has seen evidence that suggests the virus leaked from the Wuhan Institute of Virology where the strain was being studied. Supposedly the Chinese were not studying it as a bioweapon but as part of a Chinese effort to show that its efforts to identify and combat viruses are greater than the U.S.
Nice going. If an accidental leak was caused by scientists trying to show off that they were better at combating viruses which winds up infecting the world.
A senior intelligence source told Fox News that 70-75 percent of the 17 U.S. intelligence agencies [The Intelligence Community] believe the coronavirus came from the Wuhan laboratory and not from an accidental bat-to-man transmission.
Naturally, China lies. They would blame it on a bat even if were a leak from their highly vaunted lab. And obviously they would lie if it was not accidental but a purposeful attack on world democracy.
Communist China is our enemy. Yet Americans continue to buy Chinese products. It reminds me of the Aesop Fable – an eagle was shot by an arrow made with eagle feathers. How often we give our enemies the means for our own destruction.
Timeline of China’s Lies
Let’s look at the timeline, according to the dossier, to get a better idea of why Communist China is the villain in this story and not – as CNN likes to say – Donald Trump.
The virus was unleashed in December or earlier but China did not want the world to know.
CNN and others love to report Trump bungled the response to coronavirus, but if you want to understand who bungled it, look at this timeline:
China began censoring news of the virus on search engines and social media, deleting terms including “SARS variation,” “Wuhan Seafood market” and “Wuhan Unknown Pneumonia.”
They were seeking to hide it from the world. Why?
China’s National Health Commission ordered virus samples to be either moved to designated testing facilities or destroyed, while simultaneously issuing a “no-publication order” related to the disease.
Wuhan’s Municipal Health Commission stopped releasing daily updates on the number of new cases and would not resume them for 13 days.
Wang Guanga, a respiratory specialist at Peking University First Hospital who had been investigating the outbreak, said it was “under control” and largely a “mild condition.” (Wang himself would disclose 12 days later that he had been infected with the virus.)
A Shanghai professor’s lab was closed down after it shared data on the virus’ genetic sequence with the outside world.
YouTube will remove any content that contradicts WHO. And who can be trusted more than WHO?
WHO’s official Twitter account of Jan. 14 stated: “Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China.”
Chinese authorities denied the virus could be spread between humans until Jan. 20, “despite evidence of human-human transmission from early December.”
The World Health Organization (WHO) endorsed the Chinese deception that the coronavirus could not be transmitted from human-to-human despite the fact that “officials in Taiwan raised concerns as early as December 31, as did experts in Hong Kong on January 4.”
WHO chose to purposely ignore Taiwan and make its “no transmission from people to people” statement because China wanted it that way. China does not recognize Taiwan’s right to exist.
WHO could have included in their statements that scientists in Taiwan and Hong King expressed doubt about China’s position. They chose instead to only give the Communist Chinese position. Why?
President Trump stopped funding to WHO last month over its reckless role in the crisis – and has been savagely criticized by the mainstream [corporate owned – pro authoritarian] media.
Trump said WHO was either complicit in the cover-up or looked the other way.
“I think that the World Health Organization should be ashamed of themselves because they’re like the public relations agency for China,” Trump said and, of course, was roundly criticized by CNN and other corporate-owned mainstream [pro-authoritarian] media.
The dossier states: “Millions of people [left] Wuhan after the outbreak and before Beijing lock[ed] down the city on January 23.”
Chinese officials stopped the Wuhan Institute of Virology from sharing virus samples with a lab at the University of Texas.
Throughout February, “Beijing [pressed] the U.S., Italy, India, Australia, Southeast Asian neighbors and others not to protect themselves via travel restrictions, even as [China] impose[d] severe restrictions at home.”
The dossier describes Chinese defensiveness about their failure and their deceptions, stating: “As [European Union] diplomats prepare a report on the pandemic, [China] successfully presses Brussels to strike language on [China] disinformation.”
And “As Australia calls for an independent inquiry into the pandemic, [China] threatens to cut off trade with Australia. [China] has likewise responded furiously to US calls for transparency.”
Meantime, YouTube and Facebook are working hard to censor information about the coronavirus that contradicts WHO’s official positions.
US Rep Adam Schiff wants all Big Tech to censor anything online that contradicts WHO.
Here is something else that is interesting. It may be the clue to the pandemic:
According to the dossier, key figures at the Wuhan Institute of Virology previously worked or trained in Australian government labs where they conducted research on pathogens in live bats as part of an ongoing partnership with the Chinese Academy of Sciences.
According to the dossier, the team’s work at the Wuhan lab involved discovering samples of coronavirus within a cave in Yunnan province. Then they worked to synthesize the bat-derived coronavirus into a virus that could not be cured!
They seemed to have succeeded.
Is the real reason no one is hinting that this was deliberate – a purposeful leak of a bio-weapon – is that it would mean, if true, all-out war with the Communist Chinese?
This pandemic is far from over.
And the secondary virus – the contagion of authoritarian government and the curtailing of freedom in its wake may be in the long run 1000 times more dangerous than the coronavirus pandemic.
The cure may actually be much worse than the disease – in the long haul.
I agree with your main points completely.
China is the greatest threat to America and, for that matter, the world.
Presently, the United States has the greatest navy in the world; and the most powerful navy in the history of the world relative to other countries.
Currently, our navy could beat the world’s top 5 navies at the same time [This is all factual information and can readily be fact-checked].
China is slowly building up its navy and setting up overseas bases, such as the naval base China set up near our own base in Africa.
Once China’s navy has parity with the United States Navy, the whole world will be in peril.
I have feared China since the Clinton administration. Once I realized how unpatriotic all of our politicians are. They are willing to sell our country out to China.
The whole world is in the same boat with the US.
I don’t know what the answer is.
I sincerely hope we find one soon or future generations of Americans will be living in hell with China at the top dictating to the world.
On you knees America – SURRENDER TO CHINA NOW!
That is the image on my cell phone, taken about a week ago at the Port Authority (42nd St) MTA terminal –
specifically on the uptown/Queens side of the tracks for the A/C/E trains.
It is written in black, most likely magic marker, with some kind of yellow symbol which I don’t understand.
So yes I too think this is deliberate bio warfare. Not bats. Maybe sourced from bats, but not just an accident.
I have spent the last 2 weeks going around all 5 NYC boroughs and the tri-state area and will post a report here as soon
as I get it finished, hopefully this week.
The nation needs to know what is going on in NYC, where the powers that be told nursing homes NOT to send their sick
to hospitals – and the Javits Center is basically EMPTY while the US military floating hospital is entirely EMPTY and
has left (but not without one of its doctors infected…).
The powers that be told attendents in the homes NOT to wear masks.So hundreds died, including 98 at the Isabella Nursing
Home near where I live – a very good one, I have been it many times, my girlfriend sang there 2 years ago – so not it was not
the fault of a dirty nursing home, but of a government that is stupid or – working for CHINA?
On your knees America, SURRENDER TO CHINA NOW – is that the real purpose of all this?
How many US pols and journalists (and trolls on sites like this who attack anyone suggesting that this is germ warfare)
are in fact Chinese agents?
Some people are not surrendering. Some people are noting what is going on, taking images of strange grafitti –
and of the sign in Fort Tryon park recently posted in Chinese – why? No Chinese live up here.
Or are they planning to after all the American citizens are dead?
ANDREW CUOMO LIES ABOUT ORDERING NURSING HOMES TO TAKE COVID PATIENTS..
THOUSANDS DIE AS A RESULT!
The Good People of California encircle the State Capitol with their cars and tell Goofball Governor Gavin Newsom and his Government Goons to “Fuck Off!”
Drone video shows car protesters encircling Capitol to end coronavirus stay-at-home orders
—On you knees America – SURRENDER TO CHINA NOW!
Our politicians and businesses leaders sold us out to the Chinese over a decade ago.
Everything in the United States from garbage-bags, iPhones(all cellphones), and precursors for drugs & chemicals all come from China.
You are waking to a nightmare that’s 3 decades in the making and over 4 presidential administrations.
We have all ready been disemboweled, drawn, and quartered. We’re DOA buddy.
Only God can save us….
And he doesn’t exist.
From Forbes Magazine.
Look what the Mommie Dearest Governor of Michigan Gretchen Whitmer tried to ban!
The Selling of Garden Seeds.
Michigan Bans Many Stores From Selling Seeds, Home Gardening Supplies, Calls Them “Not Necessary” April 16
UPDATE: On April 24, Governor Whitmer reversed the ban.
With the coronavirus quickly becoming a new normal, home gardening is taking off, as more and more Americans start to grow their own fruits and vegetables. But in Michigan, many stores have been barred from selling seeds, soils, plants, and other gardening supplies.
Last week, Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer ordered all stores larger than 50,000-square feet to cordon off their garden centers and plant nurseries, blocking customers from shopping in those sections through April 30. “If you’re not buying food or medicine or other essential items, you should not be going to the store,” Whitmer said when announcing her order.
The shutdown follows an executive order from last month that’s been widely interpreted by many in the industry as banning greenhouses, independent garden centers, and plant nurseries from selling to the public, as part of a larger crackdown on activities deemed “not necessary to sustain or protect life.” (Curiously, the state’s list of “not necessary” items doesn’t include lottery tickets and liquor, which stores can continue to sell.)
The Dumbocrats are the party of Booze, Lottery Tickets And Marijuana.
So people cannot plant vegetables…note how many veggie seeds are being sold on eBay – from CHINA!
I suspect they will be sterile, and anyone trying to use Chinese seeds will starve. Buy US or other country seeds and buy lots and get it in the ground as soon as possible – and investigate this governor for treason.
Here is the original news conference by the two ER Doctors in Bakersfield, California that was yanked by Youtube.
Let’s see if Youtube will yank this reupload of the video.
These are the two Doctors whose video news conference was pulled down by Youtube for violating Youtube community policies.
Let’s see if Youtube yanks this video.
DOCTOR ANTHONY FAUST FAUCI AND THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF HEALTH USED YOUR TAX DOLLARS TO FUND THE WUHAN LAB AND GENETIC RESEARCH TO ENGINEER BAT VIRUS!
GEE, DR. FAUST FAUCI,WHAT COULD GO WRONG WITH THAT?
I just saw the phrase “Performance Journalism” as an explanation of “fake news”, where the reporter uses the pretense of asking a sincere question to state an emotional, prearranged script that insinuates a failing by a politician in order to catch a gotcha moment for a sound bite.
Politicians media relations people should inform the press that “performance journalism” will not be tolerated during briefings, and if the media do it, their mike will be cut off.
When a leader is asked a “performance question” he or she should probably restate the issue in concise terms ie” are you asking if people will get their checks on time the answer is yes” then move to another reporter.
And never argue the point of a performance question, because it validates the emotion ( and moral high-ground) of the questioner, even if the point is ridiculous. It would make the briefings so much easier to watch.
I would rather watch the “gotcha” questions (besides, cutting off their microphone would would be a legitimate First Amendment violation), and then the politician should slap them around verbally, as Trump is trying to teach other politicians to do. He only has 5 1/2 more years to teach them, will they ever learn? LOL
Who is to blame for the Huge numbers of nursing home deaths in New York?
THE MORONIC GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK ANDREW CUOMO!
Cuomo to blame for COVID spreading through nursing home: Goodwin
The Department of Health order, dated March 25, decreed that nursing homes and rehab centers could not use a positive COVID-19 test as the sole basis for rejecting a patient being referred from hospitals. Fearing state regulators, many facility executives say they accepted the transfers even though they believed the order was a death sentence for some existing patients and staff.
Media Doesn’t Care That People Died Because Cuomo Put Coronavirus Patients In Nursing Homes
Andrew Cuomo backed a state regulation that turned nursing homes into pandemic hotspots. But journalists determined to boost him at Trump’s expense aren’t biting.
An NYC nursing home forced to take coronavirus patients was also sent a supply of body bags for when they died
An executive at an unnamed Queens, New York nursing home told the New York Post on Thursday how officials sent them body bags when they were forced to admit coronavirus patients last month.
Thirty residents at the previously virus-free facility went on to die from the disease.
WHY DO YOU NEW YORKERS KEEP ELECTING THIS ASSHOLE ANDREW CUOMO AS GOVERNOR?
The people in the nursing home are probably being funded by the state, so it was a Cuomo cost-saving move. LOL
Because we don’t know any better -and we love living in the ghettos.
China Lied and People Died
Chinese Drones May Threaten Us Security
I don’t care what WHO says, the virus was made in the US and given or sold to China and it was not natural but lab created.
Whatever you say, Commie John. LOL
I believe it, I had already seen a news about a Chinese doctor, I do not remember her name now and since it is a Chinese name it is not easy to remember it, but this woman who is a former co-worker of the current WHO president Dr. Tedros She denounces how she collaborated to bring research into the new coronavirus created in U.S. laboratories to the Wuhan laboratory, so she literally knew from the start that the virus was artificial and hidden, supposedly what the Chinese wuerian haser was what they were originally “doing” in the us, trying to create a super virus to investigate how to cure it and create new vaccines, this woman also called Tedros a psychopath, she mentioned that in 84 she tried to patent a vaccine for what It would later be known as the AIDS virus, when at that time it was not yet publicly known, Tedros is undoubtedly a server of the corrupt elite and the new virus is just another step in attempts to apply their social engineering and reduce the population.
Governments have lied to their people so many times. Even the US government, which is supposed to be transparent and answerable to the people, has hid things in the name of national security and lied to its people numerous times. Why should anyone trust any government by default? Would you trust someone if they constantly lied to you about important things? It’s run by people and people in power are easily corruptible. That’s why the founding fathers instituted checks and balances and transparency. Everything should be questioned.
Not just checks and balances, but also a small government, which has been growing rapidly for the past few decades.
The business of every intelligence agency in the world, is primarily murder/assassination, kidnapping/disappearing people, blackmail and planting false evidence, undermining foreign powers, illegal domestic surveillance and pursuing their own best interests, without letting the government of the day know “more than they need to.”
They are by very definition, “out of control.”
Some are obviously worse than others.
There is a genuine public health emergency in the US.
Just as state and local governments can constitutionally impose limits on occupancy of rooms for fire safety reasons under common-law police powers, state and local governments can impose limits on interactions for public health reasons. Federal limits may be constitutionally questionable, but none have been imposed.
China was clearly in denial, both internally and externally, for the first few weeks, about COVID. But they did eventually come reasonably clean to the WHO and publish the COVID genome.
And that happened while Trump was still misleading the US public about what his intelligence briefings were telling him (those that he bothered to listen to).
There’s lots of blame to spread around. But a lot of belongs to Trump…
“There is a genuine public health emergency in the US.”
The real epidemic in America is STUPIDITY!
In a genuine medical quarantine only people who are seriously sick are quarantined.
And even then the quarantine is done as unobtrusively as possible and is only short term.
Healthy people are free to conduct their business unmolested and are not treated like hamsters in a plastic box.
In the quarantine backed by the totalitarian thugs of America everyone is quarantined.
Healthy people who are asymptomatic are still potential targets of quarantine on the dubious notion that they might still be capable of spreading the virus.
Being asymptomatic means the virus has mutated so that it is less harmful or the person carrying the virus has a healthy immune system.
Either answer should be good news.
But in the Warped World of the Perverted Asshole Bill Clinton, Pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s friend, being asymptomatic means that you are still dangerous and must be monitored 24/7.
And Bill Clinton along with California Governor Gavin Goofball Newsom are the biggest Tub Thumpers for “Contact Tracing.”
Already an estimated 20% of the Big Apple’s residents test positive for the virus.
And in California 10% test positive for the virus.
When close to 100% test positive will everyone be tested 24/7?
In the name of Public Health will America end up with a Police State akin to George Orwell’s “1984”?
Speaking of Blow Job Bill Clinton, I remember the Starr Report from 22 years ago.
To what degree is the “Oral-Anal” contact between Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky an example of good Public Health?
The SARS and MERS virus had the fortuitous characteristic that almost all victims displayed high fever quickly. So it was possible to catch victims before they spread the virus. This one has a long period of shedding virus before symptoms, and lots of shedders wirh no symptoms. So, unfortunately, we dont know how to reduce the transmission rate below 1 without obtrusive physical distancing .
Without distancing, everyone gets infected, and about 3 million Americans die. We are already up to a Vietnam (its about a 9/11 every day). Do you want to shoot for WW2? Civil War ?
Why stop there? Let’s go for the 1917-18 Spanish flu. That would be the USSR/China slaughter of several 10s of millions. How many older lives are worth wrecking the economy for decades?
You are a fucking idiot !!!
The real epidemic in America is stupidity. That is the first intelligent thing that you have ever said.
Re Bill & Monica:
Hey Mr. Bing-Bong
It was a BJ not a rim job or a blumpkin. There was no “oral-anal”. Shadow you embellish everything.
BTW: What do you do with your spare time that the library is closed? I’m curious.
Were you there watching what they did? LOL
“BTW: What do you do with your spare time that the library is closed? ”
I read my own extensive collection of books.
I am currently reading The Bloodlands” by Timothy Snyder.
It describes how Totalitarian governments butchered millions of people in Eastern Europe in the thirties and forties to advance their own WARPED AGENDAS.
If you must know how I feel about Sadistic Government Clowns like Andrew Cuomo, here is the kind of TV show I grew up on.
The Prisoner: Season 1 Episode 1 – Arrival (Full Episode)
It was a BJ not a rim job or a blumpkin. There was no “oral-anal”. Shadow you embellish everything. NiceGuy
FROM THE STARR REPORT
Page 34 Footnotes
209Lewinsky 8/26/98 Depo. at 20. They engaged in oral-anal contact as well. Id.
Lewinsky 8/26/98 Depo. at 31–32. They engaged in oral-anal contact as well. Id. at 30–31
Id. at 30–32. They engaged in oral-anal contact as well. See Lewinsky 8/26/98 Depo. at 29–33.
Nice Guy, Why did you lie to protect Bill Clinton?
Have you and Bill been engaging in oral-anal sex?
I stand corrected.
Thanks you sincerely!!!
OMG! I had no idea about the oral/anal. WTF?
That’s because you’re too busy with your tongue up your own a$$. LOL
On another note, I know that ex-president Obama cannot run for president under the 2 term rule, but can he run as vice president should Hillary slide into the position of running mate to Mr. Biden, and then when Mr. Biden quits for health reasons before the election, she becomes the lead ticket, and she appoints Mr. Obama as her running mate. Is it possible? Is it legal?
It’s an unresolved question that would ultimately require the U.S. Supreme Court to decide how to interpret the interaction of the 12th Amendment and the 22nd Amendment. For a discussion about this topic, see: https://hillreporter.com/could-joe-biden-pick-barack-obama-as-his-running-mate-in-2020-32771.
And you don’t need Hillary to be part of this debate. Biden could just name Obama as his VP running mate – and set the debate in motion.
Biden has already stated he will pick a woman running mate, so it would be “Michelle my Belle” instead of Barry, which would end the debate.
Barry is pretty effeminate and could even pass for a white chick. Did you see White Chicks? LOL
Hillary and Barack would be a strong ticket. I’m sure they’ve thought of it and it’s probably why Mr. Obama suddenly emerged to promote Mr. Biden.
I think Obama endorsed Biden because all the other Democratic candidates had dropped out or suspended their campaigns.
I think Barry endorsed Sleepy Joe because they made a deal. Michelle my Belle will be picked as the VP and take over soon after the election owing to Sleepy Joe’s obvious senility (assuming the Dems win, which is as long of a long shot as Raniere being able to serve his sentence in his townhouse hot tub). LOL
SPECIAL REPORT: Evidence builds coronavirus came from a Chinese lab
FROM AUSTRALIAN TV
THE CASE AGAINST CHINA
The Latest News from the UK’s Daily Mail and the New York Post.
Unknown to many Americans the Anglo-American Intelligence agencies have worked together since World War 2 in an alliance called The Five Eyes,
The Five Eyes consist of
The United States
Someone leaked a report about the Wuhan Flu from the Five Eyes to the media.
THE WUHAN FLU CAME FROM THE VIROLOGY LAB IN WUHAN.
THIS LAB IS NOW HEADED BY A MILITARY OFFICER WITH THE CHINESE PEOPLE’S LIBERATION ARMY.
SOMEHOW THE VIRUS WAS TRANSFERRED TO THE NEAR BY WET MARKET WHICH INCUBATED AND SPREAD THE VIRUS.
CHINA DELIBERATELY LIED AND CONCEALED THE TRUTH ABOUT THE VIRUS.
CHINA PARTICULARLY ENCOURAGED INFECTED CHINESE TO TRAVEL TO THE WEST AND SPREAD THE VIRUS.
IN ADDITION TO THE DEATHS THE MAIN PURPOSES OF THE VIRUS ARE TO SPREAD FEAR AND PANIC.
THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO INFLICT ECONOMIC DAMAGE AND SOCIAL DISORDER TO THE WESTERN WORLD!
IT IS HIGH TIME TO DISENGAGE FROM CHINA.
IMPOSE PUNITIVE TARIFFS AGAINST IMPORTS FROM CHINA
PUNISH AMERICAN COMPANIES WHICH REFUSE TO REPATRIATE FACTORIES AND JOBS FROM CHINA.
BAN CHINESE STUDENTS FROM US UNIVERSITIES.
MANY OF THESE STUDENTS ARE SPIES.
BAN US PROFESSORS, SCIENTISTS, ENGINEERS, UNIVERSITIES AND CORPORATIONS FROM CONDUCTING RESEARCH WITH OR FOR ANY CHINESE ENTITY.
END ALL TRAVEL BETWEEN THE US AND CHINA.
REPUDIATE ALL US DEBTS TO CHINA.
HALT THE REPAYMENT OF LOANS TO CHINESE GOVERNMENTS, CORPORATIONS AND INDIVIDUALS BY ANY AMERICAN CITIZEN.
DECLARE ALL PROPERTY IN THE US OWNED BY CHINESE CORPORATIONS AND CITIZENS TO BE THE PROPERTY OF ENEMY ALIENS SUBJECT TO SEIZURE BY THE US GOVERNMENT.
IF NECESSARY PUT A NAVAL QUARANTINE AROUND CHINA.
WITHDRAW US RECOGNITION OF CHINA AND EXTEND US RECOGNITION TO TAIWAN.
FORM AN ALLIANCE TO USE AMERICAN MILITARY FORCE, INCLUDING NUCLEAR WEAPONS TO DEFEND TAIWAN FROM CHINA.
FORM A MILITARY ALLIANCE WITH INDIA, THAILAND, VIETNAM, AUSTRALIA INDONESIA, MALAYSIA, THE PHILIPPINES, TAIWAN, SOUTH KOREA AND JAPAN TO ENCIRCLE AND ISOLATE CHINA.
ALLOW AMERICAN CITIZENS TO SUE CHINA IN AMERICAN COURTS SEEKING REPARATIONS UNDER THE RICO ACT.
WORK TOWARDS THE DISMEMBERMENT OF CHINA INTO SMALLER NATIONS.
OBTAIN A ONE HUNDRED YEAR CONCESSION OVER CHINA’S RARE EARTH MINERAL DEPOSITS.
US WITHDRAWAL FROM BOTH THE UNITED NATIONS AND THE W.H.O.,BOTH OF WHICH ARE PUPPETS OF CHINA.
HERE IS THE VIDEO ABOUT THE RECENTLY LEAKED REPORT.
Left out: January 31 – Trump cut off travel from China, and was labeled a racist and xenophobe by the CNN (Communist News Network). LOL
I don’t think the Chinese are smart enough to create a virus that cannot be cured, they would have to steal it from another country. LOL
Schiff should be put in prison for violating the First Amendment of free speech. Encouraging private companies to do what the government is prevented from doing is a First Amendment violation, as the private companies are acting as proxies for the federal government.