By Bangkok
New York City’s high coronavirus infection rate can be traced back to this interview with the mayor of NYC:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1244016912281059329
Listen to this interview please.
On March 10th, Mayor Bill de Blasio said this disease offers ‘VERY LITTLE THREAT’ to New Yorkers under 50, LOL.
Shortly before Mayor de Blasio tried to blame Trump for NYC’s problems, he was seen on TV telling people that Coronavirus was basically the flu and that only people over 50 (or with pre-existing conditions) should employ social distancing. LOL.
The NYC mayor literally said that everybody else should just go on with normal life, with no containment measures.
This was on March 10 that he said this. Very recently.
You can’t make this stuff up.
On March 10th he was telling people it’s just the flu and that there’s no need for any precautionary measures for people under 50 or healthy.
…and now NYC is the epicenter of the outbreak in the USA.
It’s almost comical how the Democrats are ignoring their own politicians giving out media advice which they now claim has cost many lives.
Just like Joe Biden criticized Trump for banning flights from China back on January 29th (very early) but yet he’s now saying that Trump didn’t act early enough, LOL.
Biden already said that he wouldn’t have banned flights from China so early (because it’s racist, he said) —— yet now he’s claiming that Trump should have done that sooner??
This isn’t just hypocrisy among Democrats, it’s a sign of dementia or retardation. 🙂
I have outlined several problems with Ken Gibson’s overly dramatic report Plastic Tents to House Coronavirus Patients in Central Park Might Result in Deadly Bio Hazard in NYC
1) Plastic tents put up in a NYC [Central] park — during a quarantine period where nobody is frequenting the park for fun — will NOT pose any more risk to the general public. In fact, removing those patients from the park and crowding them into a building would only force more non-infected people to be closer to them, making infection even more likely.
2) It’s not as if kids and dog walkers will be strolling near the tents each day for fun. People are staying home with their doors locked as if a nuclear attack is underway, LOL. The only people ‘at risk’ (by these hospital tents) are the uninfected people caring for these patients ——— however, they aren’t in any more danger than if they were caring for these same patients inside a crowded building.
3) Overcrowded NYC hospitals are literally a BREEDING GROUND for this virus. The fact that ‘professional’ nurses and doctors are working in these hospitals doesn’t change this fact. Keeping patients in ‘tents’ (outside) will give them more physical distance between each bed than if they are crowded into an overcrowded hospital.
4) Contrary to Ken’s hysteria, this virus is NOT airborne and is not being carried (thru the air) far away from the tent site towards innocent bystanders. If you don’t walk within spitting distance of a victim then you can’t get infected via droplets.
5) While the virus can theoretically live on ‘plastic’ for 48-72 hours in carefully controlled lab conditions (not outside in a storm), there’s little risk from tents blowing away and infecting mass numbers of people.
Why?
For there to be a risk, we’d have to assume that the tents aren’t anchored firmly into the ground —- but they probably are anchored, since hospital tents are constructed to survive in rainy/windy environments around the world in 3rd world countries. If they could blow away from a simple NY rain shower in the spring, they’d be unfit for use anywhere.
I’m sure these tents are anchored firmly into the ground and are constructed as medical tents.
I seriously doubt that a simple rain shower is gonna send these tents airborne.
I’m also sure that no ‘blizzards’ will happen in NYC during the spring. LOL.
But even IF these tents somehow blew away in a ‘phantom spring blizzard’ (LOL) there’s little chance for ‘mass’ infection to the general public.
Why?
Cuz most people are hiding INSIDE their homes during the quarantine, LOL.
You don’t have massive numbers of people walking near the tent site, just waiting to be overcome by flying tents if a blizzard just happens to magically materialize, LOL.
…and even IF one or two unlucky people just happen to be walking near the tent site at a time when a ‘spring blizzard’ just happens to blow these tents into them, LOL, it’ll only result in a couple of people being infected with a virus that gives flu-like symptoms for 99% of everyone who gets it.
So in a worst case scenario, one or two unlucky bystanders could theoretically get a tent blown into them if a SPRING BLIZZARD somehow manages to overpower the anchoring mechanism of these tents (and sends them flying hundreds of feet away). LOL.
That’s not a ‘mass’ infection. 🙂
That’s just 1 or 2 unlucky bystanders who’ll have flu symptoms for a week or two.
The chances of a bystander aged 70+ walking near those tents is probably ZERO percent. LOL.
Nothing to see here.
Ken is using fuzzy logic to become a scare monger.
There’s far more risk shopping in NYC grocery stores than there is from these tents in the park.
Every time you visit the grocery store you’ll be FAR CLOSER to many people, several of whom could be asymptomatic carriers of the virus. We know that most people have mild or even no symptoms.
How many grocery stores are open in NYC? Probably hundreds. Each one poses far more risk than these tents.
We also know that the ‘surfaces’ at each grocery store have been touched by thousands of people each day, which poses a far greater risk than waiting for a magical blizzard to blow a stray tent into an innocent bystander, LOL.
Can we finally begin to dispense with the stupid hysteria?
Yes, this virus contagious. But for 99% of people it’s still nothing more than mild symptoms.
It’s NOT the ebola virus.
Getting this virus is not a death sentence, except for the rare few with compromised immune systems who can already die from the flu.
Calm down people. 🙂
We’ll be fine by summer.
Warm Weather Should Help
New study shows that hotter temperatures have been found to reduce COVID transmission:
When you add this fact to our current national lockdown, the summer should be just fine.
Have a nice day. 🙂
Face Masks Don’t Protect
Using a face mask is USELESS for protecting yourself.
Face masks can only protect OTHERS from your own coughing (they won’t protect YOU from THEIR coughing).
Why?
Because your EYES are the most exposed part of your face which aren’t covered by a mask.
It’s USELESS to cover your nose/mouth if you’re still leaving your EYES exposed to droplets, you dumb fucks.
If somebody coughs on you, your eyes will soak up anything in the air unless you’re wearing GOGGLES.
Unless you wear GOGGLES (along with a mask) then you’re not protected. You’re only PRETENDING to be protected, kinda like a small child playing ‘make believe’ doctor.
Have a nice day. 🙂
Death Rates Lower Than Commonly Believed
A new study (just published yesterday) finds that C-virus death rates are MUCH lower than originally reported, mostly due to lack of testing of people with mild or no symptoms.
It’s reporting that C-virus death rates are only 0.66% (or possibly less, once serology testing is done).
Once we roll out widespread ‘serology’ testing over the next month or two, we’ll learn about the many infected people who never sought medical help or testing, which will lower this death rate even more.
The more widespread the infection rate truly is (that we didn’t know about) the lower the death rate figure will be.
It’s quite possible that many more people were infected that weren’t tested. No country has done extensive enough serology testing to give a truly accurate number yet.
Serology testing will finally ‘tell the tale’ that nobody will be able to dispute. 🙂
AnonyFaker, Joe O’Hara and Paul will all DREAD learning about the serology testing numbers when they come out. 🙂
These 3 guys want the death rate to be 4%-7% cuz that’s what CNN told them. They want maximum deaths. They won’t be happy to learn about the lower death rates.
Oh… This study also suggests that despite the media ‘cherry picking’ a few ‘younger’ cases (to highlight that people under 50 years old can die), the truth is that mostly older and weaker people are dying.
Cherry picking a few 30 year olds doesn’t change the facts.
You can cherry pick the same 30 year olds dying from the flu if you want to, but that doesn’t change the fact that mostly older and weaker people die.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30243-7/fulltext
The data is all that matters.
C-virus does cause a higher death rate in “older” people than the flu, but the overall death rate will likely be only 2 or 3 times higher than the flu. Not exactly a worldwide plague, LOL.
Once the serology data comes out people will be less hysterical when they learn the final numbers.
That’s the key to restarting the economy and Trump’s team is wise to wait for these numbers.
It was wise to delay restarting the economy from Easter to end of April (basically a 2 week delay). In fact, I think he should delay until mid May when the serology numbers begin coming out in greater volume, which will give people the facts once and for all.
Presenting clarity and factual data is the only way to put people at ease.
Have a nice day. 🙂
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Thank you, Pablo,for your usual freakishly incorrect analysis.
‘A perfect storm’: US facing hunger crisis as demand for food banks soars.’
“The national guard has been deployed to help food banks cope with rising demand in cities including Cleveland, Phoenix and St Louis amid growing concerns that supplies may run low as the crisis evolves. Overstretched food pantries are switching to drive-thrus and home deliveries.
Last year, 4.3bn meals were distributed to more than 40 million Americans through a network of 200 food banks and 60,000 pantries, schools, soup kitchens and shelters, according to Feeding America, the national food bank network. The working poor, elderly and disabled and infirm accounted for the vast majority of food bank users.
In Amherst, home to the University of Massachusetts’ largest campus, the pantry distributed 849% more food in March compared with the previous year. The second-largest increase in western Massachusetts was 748% at the Pittsfield Salvation Army pantry.
The Grace Klein community food pantry in Jefferson county, which has the largest number of confirmed Covid-19 cases in Alabama, provided 5,076 individuals with food boxes last week – a 90% increase on the previous week.
In southern Arizona, demand has doubled, with pantries supplying groceries to 4,000 households every day – double the number supplied in March 2019. “We saw an increase during the federal government shutdown but nothing as rapid, massive or overwhelming as this,” said Michael McDonald, CEO of the Community Food Bank of South Arizona.
A helpline set up by the Greater Pittsburgh community food bank has received more than a thousand calls in the past two weeks, 90% of which came from newly unemployed people. Here, pantries ordered 50% to 60% more food for March and April than usual.
The north Florida food bank, which relied heavily on contributions from retailers, has seen donations drop by 85% to 90% as shoppers bulk-buy, leaving shelves empty. But donations from restaurants, golf tournaments and even Disney World have increased, so the food bank is switching to ready meals, paying furloughed chefs to cook for thousands of senior citizens in housing facilities.
“Philanthropy and not-for-profits are not going to be able to meet food demands. The government needs to step in,” said Kellie O’Connell, chief executive of the Lakeview pantry in Chicago.
Caitlin Welsh, director of global food security at the Washington based Center for Strategic and International Studies, said: “The supply chain is strong but as the number of food insecure people increases continuously, we’ll perhaps need a new wave of federal legislation directed specifically at household food security.”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/apr/02/us-food-banks-coronavirus-demand-unemployment
Sorry for posting factual information again Bangkok and Anonymous.
I know much you hate that.
God damn those Commies.
A plane load of medical aid, including ventilators, arrived in New York today freely given by Russia.
Is there no end to their evil?
Hey troll, last I looked, Russia has moved away from Communism. Your Red Chinese brothers are still in the game. You know the ones that released this bioweapon wrecking the world.
As previously posted, I really enjoyed travelling from Moscow to Beijing by train. Of the two, I much preferred Moscow, even though I got a bit too drunk on Stolichnaya a few times.
Probably not as much fun at the moment.
Ask your fuckin democrap buddies. They are the ones bitching Russia interfered in the election.
Sorry Buddy, I have no interest in American politics.
Ansolutely none.
Apart from laughing at it, that is.
American politics providing the world with too much hilarity atm. I feel a bit sad and disillusioned by that fact. Re reading Walt Whitman, trying to get back my old sense of awe and admiration for the US.
Bullshit
Once a Liberal always a Communist.
When nuttery is given too much credence, even under the guise of just “entertaining” it, that can have unfortunate consequences in the real world, leading to real harm.
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California engineer derails train over suspicion about coronavirus aid ship USNS Mercy, feds say
‘”Moreno stated that he thought that the U.S.N.S. Mercy was suspicious and did not believe ‘the ship is what they say it’s for,’” according to the criminal affidavit.
Moreno expressed concerns to authorities that the ship had an alternate purpose than to assist with COVID-19 and was potentially linked to a government takeover and he derailed the train to “wake people up.”
“You only get this chance once. The whole world is watching. I had to,” Moreno told investigators, according to the complaint. “People don’t know what’s going on here. Now they will.”’
https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-derails-train-coronavirus-aid-ship-usns-mercy-feds-say
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Anthony Fauci gets his own security detail following threats to his safety
‘Some right-wing supporters of President Trump have labeled Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, as a member of the “deep state” trying to undermine Trump’s reelection.’
https://nypost.com/2020/04/01/anthony-fauci-gets-security-detail-following-threats-to-his-safety/
Shit about to be hitten the fan. Da hood rats gettin restless. Civil unrest startin soon.
https://old.reddit.com/r/trashy/comments/ft5h9h/officers_in_la_disperse_a_large_crowd_gathered/
Tyrone,
If you want to make a bad situation worse, then start a riot or insurrection.
Trump will call out the National Guard and they will be locked and loaded.
And 80% of the country will back Trump.
And it sounds like you relish that.
Are you a foreign troll, or just someone whose twisted agenda is pretty much the same?
Reality, you left-wing troll
Anonymous
So you’re saying that you consider those who don’t hope for, and who don’t encourage, fear, social discord, riots, etc…to be TROLLS??
Bangkok, you are wrong about this virus not being airborne. In certain situations it can spread by air very easily, as this article shows:
https://www.postregister.com/coronavirus/washington-state-choir-suffers-devastating-losses-to-covid-19/article_688594b9-3c5f-5697-a4c7-b1fa9c70a9a9.html
The keyword is ‘aerosol.’
I remember posting about US jails being a perfect breeding ground for the virus around about the 23rd of March, when I started to stress the importance of social distancing.
“The top doctor at Rikers Island said the coronavirus-hit New York jail is a “public health disaster unfolding before our eyes” as he warned of the rapidly rising number of infections in the city’s jails.
In just 12 days, Ross MacDonald, the jail’s chief physician, said confirmed cases at Rikers had soared from one to nearly 200.
Speaking in response to a letter from five New York district attorneys and a special narcotics prosecutor criticising the release of “high-risk” inmates following the outbreak of Covid-19, he wrote on Twitter this week: “The only part of the letter I can speak directly to is their failure to appreciate the public health disaster unfolding before our eyes.”
The notorious Rikers Island jail complex, one of the largest jails in the world, has become synonymous with violence and neglect, and is scheduled to shutter in 2026.
Despite following Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidelines and having “moved mountains to protect our patients”, MacDonald said infections were soaring.”
(As regards releasing prisoners: I can’t see any point.)
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/01/rikers-island-jail-coronavirus-public-health-disaster
“AnonyFaker, Joe O’Hara and Paul will all DREAD learning about the serology testing numbers when they come out. 🙂
These 3 guys want the death rate to be 4%-7% cuz that’s what CNN told them. They want maximum deaths. They won’t be happy to learn about the lower death rates.”
I’ve never watched CNN. Is it any good?
I’m so busy with patients at the moment, that I generally only manage to catch a bit of BBC radio in the passing.
As I have previously stated, the death rate is likely to be between 2-6%
You have NO IDEA how wrong I’d like to be about that…
Also, if I want maximum deaths, why would I have posted this:
Paul
March 23, 2020 at 5:32 pm
Stay home and don’t go out unless it’s to buy food or medicines, or are performing vital work.
Whilst you are out maintain a distance of 7 feet between yourself and other people.
Handwashing you know about.
Go ahead and ridicule this advice.
You will receiving exactly the same advice directly from your government sooner than you think.
Paul
My advice to the US Navy:
Test your sailors, and put the ships to sea.
Before its too late.
The virus is already on board.
They have more than one ship.
Bangkok knows that if he comes on my show to ask his 11+ questions that he DEMANDED I answer, I would make him look more stupid than de Blasio, and that’s not an easy thing to do. LOL
Communist Chinese up to the same tricks
Coronavirus testing effort hampered by kits contaminated with Covid-19
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/30/uks-attempt-ramp-coronavirus-testing-hindered-key-components/
Ths appears to incorporate old postings, that have since been proven wrong by, for instance, the figures that even the White House now accepts, such as of a large number of deaths based on relatively high case fatality combined with massive spread through the population – exactly the scenario and numbers I was pointing out were based in the science and data, and Bangkok was dismissing just about a week ago – so, so much for his accuracy. So much of what is in it is now known or proven to be so wrong, that it’s really just disinformation.
If Bangkok had been paying attention to Cuomo then, I’m sure he would have savaged the NYC mayor if he’d been more alarmist two and a half weeks ago, when even as recently as last week he was trashing people here for suggesting this was anything much more than the flu, and that we should just go on with our lives.
Cuomo was, unfortunately, probably following the guidance coming from the White House and the government – after all, he doesn’t have his own resources like the CDC to rely on – which was still along these lines:
March 10: “And we’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.” — Trump after meeting with Republican senators.
Not long before that, the White House was actively trying to suppress information coming out of the CDC:
Trump barred a top health expert from speaking freely about the coronavirus. It’s one of many ways the administration has muzzled scientists.
Feb 28, 2020
‘Fauci has suggested the world is on the brink of a pandemic.
In an apparent bid to exert more control over the messaging around this public-health crisis, The Times reported, the administration instructed Fauci “not to say anything else without clearance.” ‘
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-gags-top-us-coronavirus-official-history-censoring-science-2020-2
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Also, speaking of false or misleading information – while the science has yet to be settled, there are signs that the coronavirus is indeed more easly transmitted, which can’t be dismissed out of hand, and may even need to be acted on:
Coronavirus could travel 27 feet, stay in air for hours: MIT researcher
https://www.foxnews.com/science/coronavirus-droplets-could-travel-27-feet-warns-mit-researcher
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“Paul
March 24, 2020 at 5:55 pm
What you will see in the US over the next 14 days is state after state going into lockdown.
“Reopening the economy” is what you won’t see,” because these states going into lockdown and the Coronavirus spreading like wildfire throughout the US, will make it impossible.
Everything that could have been done to prevent this happening hasn’t been done.
And now, it’s too late.”
Stopping a virus is like stopping the wind.
South Korea succeeded – they had their first case on the same day that the US did, avoided wide spreading of the disease and massive deaths, and are now on the far side of the curve with their country and their economy largely unscathed.
Why did our leadership fail to do what South Korea did?
It’s not very hard if you do the right things at the right time.
Unfortunately, they didn’t and they didn’t
They are still not doing what needs what needs to be done, even now, long after the right time was met with inaction and denial.
This exactly why people are dying in large and rapidly escalating numbers.
As a doctor, you have an appalling bedside manner. Being proven right on this board as ‘Paul’ appears to take precedence over the useful information, you rightly point out, was countered if not ignored. Take the swerve, Paul, as does AnonyMaker, who puts out the most research, receives the most and the worst insults, yet doggedly perseveres, so that a reader like me, cynical and worldly, can still be informed, without having to wade through sarcastic self-justification. Things are bad enough.
Enjoy Nancy Pelosi telling people just five weeks ago to go out to CHINATOWN AND CELEBRATE THE CHINESE NEW YEAR.
COME TO CHINATOWN AND EAT SOME BAT SOUP AND ROASTED ANTEATER
Speaker Pelosi Visits SF’s Chinatown To Show Support Amid Coronavirus Fears
From New China TV
Chinese People in Italy Encourage Italians to “Hug A Chinese”
That video appears to date to February 24. For some perspective, here’s what Trump was saying around then about China in particular, and his colleage Xi – who he has yet to ever do anything but praise, by the way:
Feb. 25 “China is working very, very hard. I have spoken to President Xi, and they’re working very hard. And if you know anything about him, I think he’ll be in pretty good shape. They’re — they’ve had a rough patch, and I think right now they have it — it looks like they’re getting it under control more and more. They’re getting it more and more under control. So I think that’s a problem that’s going to go away.”
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And about the threat in general:
Feb. 23: “We have it very much under control in this country.” — Trump in speaking to reporters.
Feb. 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!” — Trump in a tweet.
Feb. 26: “So we’re at the low level. As they get better, we take them off the list, so that we’re going to be pretty soon at only five people. And we could be at just one or two people over the next short period of time. So we’ve had very good luck.” — Trump at a White House briefing.
Feb. 26: “And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.” — Trump at a press conference.
Feb. 27: “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.” — Trump at a White House meeting with African American leaders.
Feb. 29: “And I’ve gotten to know these professionals. They’re incredible. And everything is under control. I mean, they’re very, very cool. They’ve done it, and they’ve done it well. Everything is really under control.” — Trump in a speech at the CPAC conference outside Washington, D.C.
Steve Bannon has long told the truth about China.
At some point, America and China are headed for a collision.
And for the record, President Trump and Prime Minister Boris Johnson are engaged in a very bitter argument over the Chinese company Huawei installing 5G telephone equipment in Britain.
Well, this explains a lot, why the Governor of NY is the face and leader of the COVID virus in NYC instead of the Mayor. Rudy Giuliani would have never let that happen. It should be the Mayor, that is his job, but he has been useless and now people lack confidence in him and it doesn’t look like he consults experts but instead just talks out of his ass.
His reputation will never recover and the same is true for Trump. There are already political ads decrying Trump’s weak non-response to this crisis. This could tip in Biden’s favor unless he too downplayed it.
EDIT TO MY ABOVE POST – EVIDENTLY BIDEN DID STICK HIS BIG HAIRY TOE INTO THE POOL OF DOWNPLAYING THE VIRUS. I EXPECT A LOT OF VIRUS FINGER POINTING BACK AND FORTH DURING THE RUN UP TO THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
QUOTE FROM ARTICLE:
Just like Joe Biden criticized Trump for banning flights from China back on January 29th (very early) but yet he’s now saying that Trump didn’t act early enough, LOL.
Biden already said that he wouldn’t have banned flights from China so early (because it’s racist, he said) —— yet now he’s claiming that Trump should have done that sooner??
The speech you claim Biden criticized Trump for banning flights from China is bogus. His speech happened 15 minutes after Trump’s action and he probably didn’t even know about it because his speech made no reference to the flight ban news, tho he did mention things he criticized Trump about previously…thus he was talking about things OTHER than the flight ban. Not that you care about facts.
Also I believe the US airlines announced stopping their flights from China earlier that day, so Trump was late even on that move but he still takes credit for it.
I was quoting from the article. If you want to fact-check the article and take it up with Bangkok, be my guest…
When fact-checking, I EXPECT you to prove it and back it up with links. If you cannot do this, then what you write is not fact, just your opinion.
Here’s more:
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/03/31/de-blasio-is-no-leader-when-it-comes-to-wuhan-coronavirus-outbreak-n2565971
Holy cow.
De Blasio made the big mistake back then of listening to President Don Exotic
Blame Trump for EVERYTHING!
The Democratic Party’s answer for every problem.
Not holding him responsible for anything is equally, if not more, fanatical at the other extreme.more
He once said “I Could Stand In the Middle Of Fifth Avenue And Shoot Somebody And I Wouldn’t Lose Any Voters”. Apparently that now applies to up to a quarter of a million Americans dying, too.
He’s now failed our country worse than any leader on the planet – even China got control of the virus before suffering as many deaths as we’ve now had just starting to get into the worst of it, and South Korea learned from their example and got a handle on the problem before it got bad at all. And yet you remain as blindly loyal and uncritical, as Allison Mack to her Vanguard.
Coronavirus deaths top 4,000 in US, surpass China
https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-deaths-top-4000-us-day-after-reaching-3000-mark
You constantly excusing your fellow leftists all the time, shoots your comments to hell.
Do you have real numbers from China, Slick??? Your Communist masters have not been honest about anything since this farce began.
I’m actually starting to find America”s cartoon politics entertaining.
I used to love Bugs Bunny.