This is Part 4 of Allison Mack’s role in the sex trafficking of Nicole. As readers know, Nicole was the only slave in the Nxivm cult to have been proven to have been sex trafficked. Nicole was Allison’s slave in Nxivm’s subgroup DOS.
Part 1 Allison Mack’s True Role in the Sex Trafficking of Nicole describes how Allison ordered Nicole to make contact with Keith Raniere via email. Allison did not let Nicole know that Raniere was the secret leader of DOS.
When Nicole successfully made contact with Raniere, he offers her advice – chief of which is that true freedom comes from not doing what you want to do. [i.e. by being a slave.]
Part 2 Allison Mack Begins to Set up Nicole for ‘Sex Trafficking’ Via a First Walk With Raniere tells how Nicole meets Raniere and goes for a walk with him. She is a little concerned when he calls it “a date” – for she has no attraction to him. She is 31, he’s 56 in April 2016.
Part 3 Allison Mack’s Pubic Hair Clues Nicole Into Raniere’s Intent to Traffic Her -‘ I like It Unshaved,’ Pervy Sex Cult Leader Says reveals that Allison ordered Nicole to tell Keith she will do whatever he tells her to do. It takes her a couple of tries but she does it. He then leads her to a home and tells her to strip naked. Finding her pubic hair ungroomed, he tells he likes it that way. Nicole realizes, having previously seen Allison Mack has ungroomed pubic hair, that Raniere and Allison are likely having sex. Part 3 ends with Nicole standing naked in front of Raniere.
Part 4 reveals what the monster did next. And what he did next is what got him convicted for sex trafficking – this one little episode.
And that conviction for sex trafficking guarantees the odious one will sit in a prison for a minimum sentence [the judge is not allowed to give him less] of 15 years.
It is June 7, 2019. We are in the middle of the trial against Keith Alan Raniere AKA Vanguard. Nicole is on the witness stand.
The date they are discussing is May 31, 2016 – a day of infamy for those of good conscience – but a very necessary one in the quest to sequester Keith Raniere from all good people. May 31, 2016 is the day Raniere sex-trafficked Nicole.
Moira Kim Penza, assistant US Attorney, is examining Nicole [whose last name was not used publicly during trial].
As mentioned above – in Part 3, we left off with Nicole in a strange room in a house alone with Raniere. He is seated. She is standing and naked. He just commented on her pubic hair.
Penza:
Q What happened after the Defendant commented on your body.
Nicole:
A He told me to put back on my clothes and he said… there are two blindfolds to put on.
Q Did he put those blindfolds on you?
A Yes.
Q Can you explain the purpose of the blindfolds?
A … I don’t remember exactly what they were, but one was, like, tighter because it left marks under my eyes, and the other was, like, tied around that.
Q After he put the blindfolds on you, did he say anything to you?
A That we were going somewhere.
Q So, then what happened?
A He took my hand and took me to the car, put me in the car, and then we drove somewhere.
Q Do you remember about how long you drove?
A No. … I couldn’t tell you how long it was, but it didn’t seem like super, super close, but it wasn’t that long. Maybe ten minutes.
Q And did you talk during the ride?
A I don’t remember saying anything.
Q Did you eventually end up somewhere?
A Yeah. We eventually stopped, he came around, took my hand, took me, like, through the woods. I mean, I just remember, like, feeling things crash under my feet, like branches breaking.
Q You couldn’t see anything?
A No.
Q And, so, he walked you on these branches, and then do you remember…
A Then I stepped up on, like, a step and then into a room … in my imagination it was, like, a little cabin. But I don’t really know.
Q Did you go through a door?
A Yes, like a front door.
Q What happened once you were through the door?
A He told me to get undressed again and then to get on a table. There was a table there.
Q When he told you to get undressed, were you able to do that yourself with the blindfold on?
A I think so. Yeah, I just had sweatpants and a sweatshirt on or something simple. So, taking it off was okay, I think.
Q Was the table close to where you had come in?
A No, well, it felt like it, but I think he led me to the table. But it didn’t feel very far away….. he told me to get on the table. And then he tied my wrists and my feet to different sides.
Q To each of the corners?
A (Nods.)
Q How did the table feel?
A Cold.
Q How did you feel being tied up on the table?
A Like super vulnerable and exposed. And I was hoping that maybe that was … the whole thing, you know, just that I had to be super vulnerable and exposed.
Q Did something else happen?
A Yes. Then somebody started going down on me.
Q How did you feel at that moment? Did you think it was the Defendant at that moment?
A Yes.
Q And then did something happen?
A Yeah. And I was still, like, trying to process – just process what was happening, and then he, Keith, started talking. And I was so confused, obviously. I was like what is happening? And I realized that there was another person in the room.
Q So, another person who was not the Defendant was the one performing oral sex on you?
A Yeah. It’s the only way that it made sense. He was talking to me, like, up here and someone is still going down on me. So, I was like holy shit, there’s somebody else in the room.
Q How did that moment feel?
A I mean, just – it’s terrifying. You don’t know – I mean, I’m trying to, like, process what’s going on. Like, there is someone else in the room, okay, so now there’s two people in the room. Is there three people in the room? Like, how many people are in this room right now?
And, like, I just was trying to – and it was kind of like just stay calm, just try and breathe, just try and stay calm. And, also, Keith was talking to me at that time. He was walking around the table asking me questions. So, I was trying to stay calm and figure out what was going on and, also, answer the questions that he was asking me. And, so, it was just a lot.
Q …. so, the Defendant is walking around the table while this is happening?
A Yes.
Q Do you have any recollection of about how long this went on?
A No.
Q Did the Defendant say anything about who was performing oral sex on you?
A No.… at that moment, I … felt hair, which in the circumstances made me feel a little bit calmer, like at least it was — I don’t know why I felt, like, a tiny bit safer that it was a woman and not another man and just me in the room. I don’t know why that made me feel safer.
But later on, he said that it was a woman and that I would never know who it was.
Q Much later?
A Much later.
Q But at that time, he didn’t tell you who it was?
A No.
Q What other questions did the Defendant ask you as he circled around you?
A He was asking me, like, if I had ever been in a threesome, … how many people I had been with, like, how many people at once I had been with. He was asking me all these questions about my sexual history, yeah.
Q Did the Defendant ever tell you whether you were being videotaped?
A No.
Q Did the Defendant ask you if you were okay at some point?
A Yes.
Q And did you respond?
A Yeah. I didn’t think that there was, like, an option, so I just said, Yes, I’m okay.
Q At some point, did the performing oral sex on you end?
A Yes.
Q Then what happened?
A He untied me and he helped me put back on my clothes because, obviously, I didn’t know where they were and I was blindfolded still. He took me back to the car, he drove back to the house, and then he took me back into the original house and he took off the blindfolds.
Q And did you two sit down at that point in the original house?
A Yeah, he had me sit down.
Q How were you feeling at this point?
A Just kind of, like, completely in shock I think would be safe to say.
Q And, so, then what happened?
A So then he asked me if I was okay again. I just said yes. He said he wanted me to know that nothing bad had just happened and that I was a young woman who was allowed to be sexual and I was not in a relationship so what happened was not bad.
And I do remember thinking, like, I’m not in a relationship because Allison told me to not be in a relationship right now. But that was just, like, a side note that my brain said.
And then … he started talking to me again about trust. And he said that … I was very brave. And he was just kind of talking, and, eventually, I just felt like can I go? Like, I did what you asked me to do, can I go? In my head, I was just like Can I just go?
And finally, I said that out loud, I said, Can I go?
And he told me not to tell anyone what had happened. And I asked if I could tell Allison, and he said yes. And then I went to leave.
Q When you walked out, did the defendant stay watching you?
A So I walked out …. he walked out after me and I walked out. And I remember, like, it being really bright out because the sun had already risen and I had been blindfolded for a while, but also I think I had left the house at, like, 4 o’clock in the morning and now the sun had rose so I just remember it being really bright when I walked out. And then I looked up and I saw Emi [Emiliano Salinas] running [jogging] with Clare [Bronfman] and I ran to Emi and I just hugged him because, you know, I always felt safe with Emi. So I just wanted to feel safe so I hugged him.
***
Q: Did you end up telling Allison what happened?
A Yes.
Q So you went back to the house?
A Yes.
Q And then what happened when you got to Allison?
A I think that I went and took a shower first. And then I came back out and sat with her in front of the fireplace and I told her what happened.
Q And did she say anything to you?
A She seemed a little bit freaked out by what had happened. I don’t think she knew exactly what was going to happen, but she also said that I was really brave….
Q … did you actually have to go work that day?
A Yeah, I also think she said something, that I had earned, like, [the right to be able to be] working more with Keith or something like that. But, yes, I had to go back to the City that afternoon and work.
Q Did the defendant contact you after that?
A Yes. He texted me and said that he thought that I was very courageous.
Q Did you know how the defendant had gotten your phone number?
A I don’t remember.
Q Prior to that, had you been texting with the defendant?
A No.
***
Editor’s note: I think it’s interesting that Allison Mack was freaked out when she heard about this brutal escapade of her Vanguard. She might also have been jealous. Obviously, this proves it was not Allison who went down on Nicole.
Though Allison was freaked [maybe it was intuition that a serious crime had been committed and she was a co-conspirator] but Allison recovered fast and told Nicole she was brave.
As some readers know, it was Camilia Fernandez, 26, who performed oral sex on Nicole while she was blindfolded. Nicole did not know who it was, and this came out later – after Raniere was arrested. Camilia, who was an unindicted co-conspirator in the sex trafficking of Nicole, is believed to be still a follower of Raniere and actively recruiting women and children into the grotesque cult in Mexico.
Camilia is [along with Nicole] one of the two women who helped the most to put Raniere away. The difference is that Nicole tried to put Raniere away by testifying. Camilia helped – but not on purpose.
The FBI found nude pictures of Camilia – which were taken by Raniere when she was 15 [in 2005] and which formed the basis of two of his predicate acts – of sexual exploitation of a minor and possession of child porn – which were proven at trial – as part of his racketeering and racketeering conspiracy convictions.
I believe that the discovery of her nude pictures and the realization that she was only 15 at the time they were taken is what persuaded Allison Mack and Raniere’s other co-defendants to rush in and make plea deals to avoid being tried with a fellow who possessed child porn.
Regardless – just as Allison Mack has said that her episode of being tied and blindfolded earned for her the right to work more with Raniere, it was the same episode with Nicole that earned for Raniere a sex trafficking charge and the right to be guaranteed a stay in a maximum-security prison for years to come.
This one bit of cruel madness on the part of Raniere – on May 31, 2016 – will cost him 15 years of his life.
Was it worth it, my Vanguard?
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Sarah Edmondson on Allison Mack in Hollywood Life interview
https://hollywoodlife.com/2019/10/30/allison-mack-not-sex-cult-mastermind-set-up-nxivm-whistleblower/
Allison Mack was out of town when Sarah Edmondson was branded.
The branding of Sarah Edmondson was supervised by Lauren Salzman.
Moreover when one witness confronted Mack with newspaper stories about Raniere’s pedophilia she denied it.
Allison Mack was willfully ignorant.
And willful ignorance is a CRIME.
Willful blindness or Willful Ignorance
“Willful blindness (sometimes called ignorance of law,[1]:761 willful ignorance or contrived ignorance or Nelsonian knowledge) is a term used in law to describe a situation in which a person seeks to avoid civil or criminal liability for a wrongful act by intentionally keeping himself or herself unaware of facts that would render him or her liable or implicated. In United States v. Jewell, the court held that proof of willful ignorance satisfied the requirement of knowledge as to criminal possession and importation of drugs.”
“In United States v. Jewell, the court held that proof of willful ignorance satisfied the requirement of knowledge as to criminal possession and importation of drugs. In a number of cases in the United States of America, persons transporting packages containing illegal drugs have asserted that they never asked what the contents of the packages were and so lacked the requisite intent to break the law. Such defenses have not succeeded, as courts have been quick to determine that the defendant should have known what was in the package and exercised criminal recklessness by failing to find out the package’s contents”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willful_blindness
Pyriel:
Exactly who set up Allison Mack?
From what I’ve seen of NXIVM, its leaders could not set up a fart if they ate a whole can of beans.
If anyone set up Allison Mack, it was Allison Mack herself through her ignorance and insanity.
Very interesting, thanks for posting.
Edmondson says that she first recognized the initials AM in her brand, then KR. She seems to think that Raniere himself designed the brand, and he included AM’s initials to set her up for the fall. (This seems bizarre to me, since it would mean he was expecting DOS to get busted by the authorities… which makes no sense at all.)
Edmondson is big on the idea that Raniere was into breaking these women down.
As for the incriminating audio recording that was played at trial, with Mack and Raniere planning out the branding sessions, Edmonson says it was India Oxenberg who turned over Allison’s thumb drives to the FBI. (So Allison gets no credit for surrendering them herself). Edmondson also says that she has heard that Allison has woken up to the true nature of Nxivm and that it was the revelation of Raniere’s having sex with underage girls that woke her up.
To Shadowstate,
Here is a simple 2 question multiple choice test for you to take.
1. Which female NXIVM member ruined more women’s lives?
A.) Nancy Salzman
B.) Clare Bronfman
C.) Allison Mack
2. Which female NXIVM member ruined the least number of women’s lives?
A.) Allison Mack
B.) Nancy Salzman
C.) Clare Bronfman
*Hint: Usually the answer to a multiple choice test is A or B.
Here is my question for you:
Which Nazi murdered more people?
A. Reinhard Heydrich
B. Adolf Eichmann
C. Adolf Hitler
Shadowstate,
My answer is C….
…..Because the Nazi party came to power because of Hitler and everything that transpired after the Nazis came to power is a result of Hitler winning the elections and political battles.
Heydrich and Eichman never would have been powerful if it not for Hitler.
Oddly enough your test gives credence to my test on a similar parallel philosophical plain of logic.
Will you now answer my 2 questions?
Please 😉
That will never happen. Remember who or what you’re talking to.
But there is no evidence that Hitler ever personally shot anyone.
And there is no document with Hitler’s signature ordering the killing of Jews.
The same way there is no evidence that Allison Mack personally ordered the branding of women.
But both Hitler and Allison Pimp Mack are as guilty as sin.
Shadowstate,
You did not answer either multiple choice question.
I answered yours. You are just cutting hairs with your take on Hitler. The Nazis would never have come to power. Plus there are other atrocities besides the Jews.
Hitler’s true evil? Take the Jews out of the story or equation.
20-40 percent of the Ukraine population alive during WWII had to consume human flesh in order to stay alive. There were human flesh outdoor markets in the winter in the Ukraine. It’s documented and one photo exists of it. I could go on. 😉
Why will you not answer my 3 simple question? Seriously. What’s the hold up? Why the avoidance?
I don’t think Mack was freaked out, she was jealous.
Bingo!
Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner!
Mack wanted to have Raniere all to herself.
If there was to be a threesome, Mack wanted in on it with her “slave” Nicole as the third wheel.
This particular threesome cut Allison Mack out and replaced her with Cami, an arch rival.
I thought that would make Mr. Shadow’s day! LOL
I agree
Not only is the victim in shock but I would suspect Stockholm syndrome is at play here by Keith.
Keith was trying to break more than one woman and the others aided and abetted him.
Ain’t free love grand? 😊 and I mean that sarcastically.
“She seemed a little bit freaked out by what had happened. I don’t think she knew exactly what was going to happen….”
And yet, many say she(Allison) is the one behind this whole thing…
What i see in this transcript is the mail that Allison wrote to Raniere (the one showed to the court) about her own threesome…
It would explain her freaking out…
“: I think it’s interesting that Allison Mack was freaked out when she heard about this brutal escapade of her Vanguard. She might also have been jealous. Obviously, this proves it was not Allison who went down on Nicole”
We know it’s not her…how is that even a question , we know the name of the person who did it with her…
And excuse me but the freaked out doesn’t mean she was jealous…except in pervert head.
I think that she freaked out because she had to go through all this herself.
Raniere wasn’t original and was doing (apparently) the same to each girl.
“Though Allison was freaked [maybe it was intuition that a serious crime had been committed and she was a co-conspirator] but Allison recovered fast and told Nicole she was brave.”
I doubt she considered it was a crime (as Nicole never said no…) but i think the “you are brave” was because she got through this and knew the ordeal to cope with this.
Allison talked with her friends about leaving Nxivm not that long after this incident…But as cult Always do, they dragged her back.
I also remind that Raniere said not to say it to anyone (but authorized Allison to know it)…Why?
Also co conspirator of what? if she didn’t knew (and Nicole is convinced) that it would happen?
SHE COLLECTED COLLATERAL…period.
“Camilia is [along with Nicole] one of the two women who helped the most to put Raniere away. ”
No
Nicole helped, India helped (usb stick),Allison helped (usb stick + cooperation), Lauren helped, A few other helped…
Camilla was planning to defend Raniere.
How is she helping? don’t go with the pics and stuff such as this…it’s not Camilla who gave them.
Camilla supported the crimes without the coercion nor the starvation…She knew the purpose of DOS when she gave her collaterals.
It’s not the case of the other member of DOS (including Allison).
They were “briefed” after the collateralization.Cami was before!
“I believe that the discovery of her nude pictures and the realization that she was only 15 at the time they were taken is what persuaded Allison Mack and Raniere’s other co-defendants to rush in and make plea deals to avoid being tried with a fellow who possessed child porn.”
This is probably true…Although for Allison , as it happened before her time, it’s because of the obsession that Penza had to put the blame on her…even for crime she never was related to.
Reminder for those who don’t know, the picture is from 2005…Allison was recruited (as a “student” end 2006).
She was caught in the DOS web in 2015 (after full collateralization and years of semi-starvation).
Anonymous:
When Allison Mack agreed to become a pimp she opened herself up to a world of shock and surprise.
Allison Pimp Mack chose to collect blackmail material to compel women into engaging in sex against their will.
Did Allison Pimp Mack ever once hesitate to follow an order from Raniere?
No!
In fact six months after this incident Allison Mack doubled down on her devotion to Raniere singing a song to him pledging herself to him.
Every step along the way to perdition that Allison Pimp Mack took was taken knowingly sand willingly.
Raniere openly taught his followers that sex between adults and children was appropriate.
And Allison Pimp Mack swallowed his teachings and willingly obeyed.
Allison Pimp Mack knew about the stories in the Albany Times Union detailing Raniere’s pedophilia.
Did those stories stop Allison Pimp Mack from doing his bidding?
No!
Allison Pimp Mack knew about Raniere’s rampant promiscuity.
Did that rampant promiscuity interfere with her devotion to her boy friend?
No!
Allison Pimp Mack knew that it is wrong to falsely accuse someone of crimes that never happened.
Nevertheless Allison Pimp Mack chose to fabricate stories against her own relative to please
Raniere who own boy friend.
Allison Pimp Mack is a Liar.
Allison Pimp Mack is a Criminal.
Allison Pimp Mack is a Felon.
Allison Pimp Mack is a Racketeer.
Allison Pimp Mack is a Gangster.
Allison Pimp Mack is an Extortionist.
Allison Pimp Mack is a Blackmailer.
Allison Pimp Mack is a Sex Trafficker.
And Anonymous when you claim that all Allison Pimp Mack did was to “Collect the Collaterals” you are exposing yourself as a probable member of NXIVM or a functionally illiterate fan of Allison Mack.
Allison Pimp Mack was not collecting Collateral.
Allison Pimp Mack was collecting BLACKMAIL MATERIAL.
COLLECTING BLACKMAIL MATERIAL IS A CRIME.
COLLECTING BLACKMAIL MATERIAL IS Part and Parcel of being a Pimp.
post of oral sex on blindfolded Nicole given the title, Day of Infamy.
another day of infamy,,,Japanese attack Pearl Harbor
They are all disgusting. Most of these people should try keeping their pants on for let’s say, one week? Read a book or something. Or go shopping.
I believe that the discovery of her nude pictures and the realization that she was only 15 at the time they were taken is what persuaded Allison Mack and Raniere’s other co-defendants to rush in and make plea deals to avoid being tried with a fellow who possessed child porn.
– They were hardly quick in pleading out. I’m cynical by nature and my gut says they all are, if privately, maybe only to themselves, still supporting and believing in Vangaurd and the bullshit they believed
The nude pictures weren’t publicly known until shortly before they all pleaded. I don’t pretend to know what someone else is thinking without evidence.
Mitch Garrity,
Two things:
1. I not believe anyone would have ever guessed you are “cynical by nature”.
2. “My gut says”…..That’s not your gut dummy, it’s your liver, and it has cirrhosis.
“I hope you enjoyed reading this because I enjoyed writing it”, Mitch Garrity.
😉
Perhaps Allison Mack freaked out because she intended “Nicole” to be a sex toy for her and Raniere to share for threesomes.
Not a sex toy for Cami and Raniere to share.
Excellent job shadow. You contributed an interesting idea that made me think. And, you hit “Post Comment” without first ranting and raving about terrorists and gangsters! Good boy. Good boy.
I believe Allison realized, at some point, that she had sold her soul to the devil, but she thought she was in so deep that there was no way out.
Had Allison turned state’s evidence she may have been granted immunity. She lost the opportunity to engender the public’s sympathy.
Silly girl.
I think you give Mack too much credit for being able to think.
Why Allison Mack Loves the Psychopath Keith Raniere.
“Men with psychopathic traits are more attractive to women, study suggests”
“ST. CATHARINES, Ontario – Men who display psychopathic traits were found to be more desirable to women, according to a recent study by a pair of researchers in Canada.
The study, published last month in Evolutionary Psychological Science, found that men with these traits tend to create favorable impressions on women — even after controlling for physical attractiveness.”
https://www.fox5ny.com/news/men-with-psychopathic-traits-are-more-attractive-to-women-study-suggests
You must have women hanging all over you.
Scott,
Mr. Shadow has women hanging all over…….
…..Trouble is none of them are alive.
I would agree that the kiddie porn revelation was what got everybody to jump ship. The day it was revealed was when Allison came out of the courthouse crying.
As if Allison Mack had no idea that Keith Raniere was a child molester.
Raniere told his followers that it was appropriate for an aduult to have sex with a twelve year old child.
Wasn’t that a big enough clue that Raniere is either a child molester or wannabe child molester?
Or is Allison Mack a very stupid woman?
Didn’t it register with Allison Mack that the Albany Times-Union had a special report published in 2012 that Raniere sexually molested Rhiannon?
Or is Allison Mack a very stupid woman?
Or maybe Allison Mack did not give a damn that Raniere is a child molester until it appeared that she would be charged with the same crime.
In other words to Allison Pimp Mack it’s OK to molest children as long as you don’t get caught.
Allison Mack was crying because she had just discovered that her boyfriend Keith Raniere was the world’s third dumbest man and that she Allison Pimp Mack is the world’s third dumbest woman.
I do agree that, if it had not been mentioned in court, she would have still been “taking one for the team” to the bitter end. She seemed fine with that knowledge until it looked like she would be tried with a child molester. She had no choice. She was crying because she had no choice but to take a deal.
“I do agree that, if it had not been mentioned in court, she would have still been “taking one for the team” to the bitter end.” Natashka
And that means Allison is still a follower of NXIVM.
Allison was unable to recognize that if she pimped for a child molester she would ultimately be slimed for it.
And all of the NXIVM defendants, even Allison, Clare and Kathy chose to take a plea deal at that point.
Precisely Shadow, there is no way that, at that point of it coming out in court, not one of them had heard of these accusations. No way in hell, I’m not buying the naive “don’t read the papers” bs. They chose to accept it until they thought they’d be tried and tarred with that brush and the world was taking notice. To hell with the lot of them
Natashka:
You are right.
These NXIVM defendants were deliberately ignoring what kind of crimes they were complicit in.
“I don’t want to know what Raniere did and what he does” is deliberate ignorance and is no defense.
Sometimes it is called “Willful Blindness” or “Willful Ignorance.”
Willful blindness
“Willful blindness (sometimes called ignorance of law,[1]:761 willful ignorance or contrived ignorance or Nelsonian knowledge) is a term used in law to describe a situation in which a person seeks to avoid civil or criminal liability for a wrongful act by intentionally keeping himself or herself unaware of facts that would render him or her liable or implicated. In United States v. Jewell, the court held that proof of willful ignorance satisfied the requirement of knowledge as to criminal possession and importation of drugs.”
“In United States v. Jewell, the court held that proof of willful ignorance satisfied the requirement of knowledge as to criminal possession and importation of drugs. In a number of cases in the United States of America, persons transporting packages containing illegal drugs have asserted that they never asked what the contents of the packages were and so lacked the requisite intent to break the law. Such defenses have not succeeded, as courts have been quick to determine that the defendant should have known what was in the package and exercised criminal recklessness by failing to find out the package’s contents”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willful_blindness
MLMers are told to ignore the media, and if they happen to come across something that is “negative” towards the scam to assume it is being produced by quitters, losers, etc., so Mack may never have seen the 2012 article. I’ve said this many times before, why do you keep ignoring it Mr. Shadow?
There is no middle ground with shadow. It’s inconvenient for him to address things that poke holes in his “all or nothing” narratives.
“There is no middle ground with shadow.
There is no Middle Ground with the Law.
Allison Pimp Mack is a Liar.
Allison Pimp Mack is a Criminal.
Allison Pimp Mack is a Felon.
Allison Pimp Mack is a Racketeer.
Allison Pimp Mack is a Gangster.
Allison Pimp Mack is an Extortionist.
Allison Pimp Mack is a Blackmailer.
Allison Pimp Mack is a Sex Trafficker.
I thought she was also a terrorist?
Nutjob,
At the top of this thread, I posted a 2 question multiple test on Allison Mack’s culpability relative to other NXIVM members.
Shadowstate, as expected, refuses to take the test.
“Speaking about cognitive dissonance”….
Shadowstate’s beliefs and reality are unfortunately in conflict. He knows what the correct answer sane answers on the test are.
So instead of being conflicted he does the psychological behavior of “Approach Avoidance”.
Because Scott Johnson, Willful Ignorance is not a defense in the law.
“Willful blindness or Willfull Ignorance.
“Willful blindness (sometimes called ignorance of law,[1]:761 willful ignorance or contrived ignorance or Nelsonian knowledge) is a term used in law to describe a situation in which a person seeks to avoid civil or criminal liability for a wrongful act by intentionally keeping himself or herself unaware of facts that would render him or her liable or implicated. In United States v. Jewell, the court held that proof of willful ignorance satisfied the requirement of knowledge as to criminal possession and importation of drugs.”
“In United States v. Jewell, the court held that proof of willful ignorance satisfied the requirement of knowledge as to criminal possession and importation of drugs. In a number of cases in the United States of America, persons transporting packages containing illegal drugs have asserted that they never asked what the contents of the packages were and so lacked the requisite intent to break the law. Such defenses have not succeeded, as courts have been quick to determine that the defendant should have known what was in the package and exercised criminal recklessness by failing to find out the package’s contents”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willful_blindness
Allison Pimp Mack and her co-defendants are GUILTY!
They knew that there were allegations of Raniere’s pedophilia and deliberately ignored investigating the circumstances.
It’s not so much a case of willful ignorance as it is believing the upline has their best interest in mind, as the reason why they are told not to obtain outside information is because those sources don’t understand how the MLM really works, they have a gripe because they didn’t apply themselves, etc. Besides, it’s the upline that is misleading the downline with the guidance they are providing, the downline is not being willfully blind. After all, MLM scams have been around for several decades, so the guidance makes sense. If the MLM was actually a scam, the upline explains, the government would have shut them down decades ago. This is a much more reasonable and convincing basis than a shady drug dealer telling the drug distributor to not ask what is in the drug packages, so your legal argument falls flat. Plus, the government probably wouldn’t go after the low level distributors, they have always gone after the company and/or the upper level distributors. If you read my websites and listened to my radio shows you would know that, but you are too smart to listen to anybody.
How do you know that they knew there were allegations?
Are Trump supporters willfully blind/ignorant because they don’t watch MSNBC?
Are Liberals willfully blind/ignorant because they don’t watch Fox News?
Yep, that was the lynchpin BUT, and there is a huge but, she, along with others, was privy to his Socratic orations on sex between adults and children, and I do mean children, was nothing but a social construct and was A-OK in his philosophy, which they all bought, hook, line, and sinker.
They just didn’t want to be formally labeled as such yet they all were aware of inappropriate conduct if not criminal conduct.
Who allows their child, boy or girl, to be alone in the company of an adult male? Or female for that matter but in this case Keith, over and over. Then imports young girls from Mexico. To what end?
Does anyone really believe any of these top people are able to be rehabilitated?
Some of you have childten, girl children. Would you trust Lauren, Nancy, Michelle, Allison, Clare, Sara alone with your child?
So Allison Mack freaked out that Keith Raniere is a pervert?
As if the 2012 stories in the Albany Times-Union were not cause enough to freak her out.
Stories that detailed how Raniere had sexually assaulted a twelve-year-old girl in 1990.
As if the branding of female sex slaves with hot irons was not cause to freak Allison Mack out.
Branding that Allison Mack supervised and commanded.
As if the collection of blackmail material, a process that continued into mid-2017 was not enough to freak Allison Mack out.
As if Raniere’s teaching that sex between adults and children is OK was not enough to freak Allison Mack out.
“Allison recovered fast and told Nicole she was brave.”
Allison Mack not only recovered fast, she doubled down on her commitment to Raniere continuing to serve as Raniere’s Faithful Pimp until the man was arrested over two years later.
At no time, did Allison Mack of her own volition decide that enough was enough and inform on Raniere or even leave the criminal gang.
And Allison Mack only turned against Raniere when it looked like she would be charged with facilitating child sexual abuse.
Allison Mack is a Pimp and a hardcore criminal.
Indeed, in August 2016, a little more than six months after this sexual assault, Allison Mack celebrated Raniere’s birthday by singing him a song of eternal devotion.
https://frankreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/AllisonMackCriesOnStage.mp4?_=1
Video recorded around six months after the sexual assault on Nicole.
She freaked out that he’s a pedophile. Being a perv by itself really isn’t such a problem for most people. It is for you because you don’t like gays, etc.
” Being a perv by itself really isn’t such a problem for most people. It is for you”
So are you suggesting that most people are fine with pedophiles?
It’s only old fashioned people who don’t like pedophiles and other pervs?
How about this video from Saturday Night Live making fun of Liberace?
Max, would you want Liberace standing behind you on Halloween night?
Dude you can’t be serious. I’m saying that plenty of people are ok with swinger lifestyles, threesomes, bdsm, etc, BUT those same people are NOT AT ALL ok with pedophiles. Is that complicated for you?
Max,
If you read the book “As the Band Played On.” by Randy Shilts you will discover that the extreme promiscuity in the gay male population as well as among swingers contributed to the spread of AIDS.
It did not do Allison Mack any good to go to the V Week orgies and then worry about getting STDs.
From the Frank Report August 2017.
“What everyone at V-Week should know about herpes and V”
‘I received reports of DOS women having sex with SOP men that they didn’t like. Imagery of rape was conjured in combination with master-slave relationships.
A joke was told: Allison said: I am terrified of being raped by an unattractive SOP man.
I also heard about women laughing it off and trying to conceal it: They called it a ‘pity fuck’. As if DOS woman voluntarily chose to have sex with a poor slob just to be nice to him.
Then came more reports of herpes — who had them; who gave it to whom. Some of the people alleged to have contracted herpes seemed to have gotten it from these ‘pity fucks.’
I don’t know if Vanguard is afflicted. His recklessness militates toward him having the virus and is therefore unconcerned about catching it. With a promiscuous lifestyle, it would be hard to avoid sexually transmitted diseases.”
“Sources then reported that DOS slaves were on 24/7 call to have sex with Keith. If Keith commanded them to have sex with any man, they had to obey and have sex with that man.”
https://frankreport.com/2017/08/26/what-everyone-at-v-week-should-know-about-herpes-and-v/
Perverts are now the “new normal?” LOL
“Perverts are now the “new normal?” LOL”
Scott,
Have you ever visited San Francisco or Portland, Oregon?
In those cities every day is Halloween.
Yes I have, and they are both sh!thole cities in sh!thold states.
Dear Frank Parlato,
If you happen to run any more of these Allison Mack stories, I think it only fair you send Mr. Shadowstate a box of adult diapers.
Sincerely,
Niceguy
Niceguy:
Save the adult diapers to put on your head because you are full of crap.
That all DEPENDS on if it is a Sexy story or not.
If it’s about Mack, it’s automatically a DEPENDS story.
Scott,
LMAO!!!!!
You topped me with, “DEPENDS” story. I’m still laughing.
I do wonder…..
…If Mr. Shadow hit pay-dirt or Vesuvius erupted in bliss.
Shadowstate1958 after reading this Allison Mack story, like a Jew studying the Torah, must be in unadulterated ecstasy at this very moment.
I bet Mr. Shadowstate finds this story better than…..
…Rejuvenation 😉