Editor’s Note: After reading several stories from our earnest and prolific commenter, Shadow State, some readers might assume that Shadow is not quite a fan of Allison Mack. Since Mack is still awaiting sentencing, I think it might be of interest to readers who have followed this case -especially those who were watching on Frank Report before the arrests of Mack- when Frank Report was the only publication that was consistently writing about her and her master, Keith Alan Raniere – to get various further insights into the woman who gave up everything for her Vanguard.
When I first broke the branding story in June 2017 – I was told by those who had friends and relatives and even some who were branded that it was Mack, along with Raniere, who was on the brand. It was also clear that Mack was an extremely enthusiastic member of DOS.
Catherine Oxenberg was the first to tell me about it. Allison was India’s slave master. I also heard from Mark Vicente and Bonnie Piesse – who had lived with Allison and were the ones who helped break up the cult by warning DOS women and their families about what was going on.
I heard from Sarah Edmondson – who had Lauren Salzman as her master – but saw Allison as the virtual leader of the women of DOS. There were also DOS women – notably Nicole – who was a slave to Allison.
So the point is I got a lot of information from people who felt they were abused by Mack, and despite some saying that the initials were only Raniere’s on the brand – there are still some who think that the evident A-M – was designed by Keith with Allison in mind – perhaps to use her as a fall girl. The A-M is more easily noticeable than the K-R – which you have to look at sideways to see.
Finally, I cannot say I share Shadow State’s opinion about Mack. I think Mack is at least in part a victim. She was starved and sleep-deprived and hypnotized and she lost everything because of it. Still, I think Shadow has the right to present his unvarnished opinion that Mack is a pure villain.
Let the reader judge for himself or herself.
By Shadow State
Allison Mack was certainly into a lot of money-making schemes in Nxivm.
She led Jness. She was the head of the Source. She was involved in the Knife and was a proctor in Nxivm.
She claimed to want to help people but she was really turned on by sex with Keith Raniere, the money of the Bronfmans, and the power of being in a sex trafficking gang.
Allison Mack’s acting career is now over.
In today’s climate of #metoo, sexual slavery is no longer an acceptable lifestyle decision.
Mack chose to chuck acting away with her choice of sex trafficking for a career. She might as well go to prison and go 100% rogue.
Since Allison likes Hispanic women like Daniela Padilla, prison will offer her lots of “Hot Tamales” to choose from.
And both San Francisco and New York City both have vibrant lesbian communities.
Allison’s bad luck with men makes lesbianism an attractive option for the former thespian.
In view of the abuse that India received from Allison Mack, expect Hollywood to respect India’s actress mother and refrain from hiring Allison Mack in the future.
The book “Captive” written by Catherine Oxenberg was published by Simon and Shuster, a division of the new Viacom-CBS media conglomerate.
Don’t expect Allison Mack to be cast in any CBS TV shows or Paramount movies.
And the LIfetime cable TV networks for women are mainly owned by ABC, a division of Disney.
Disney not only owns ABC it also owns Fox Studios, Lucasfilm and Marvel Studios.
Don’t expect Allison Pimp Mack to be hired by these production companies.
Which abuse?”
A major theme in Catherine Oxenberg’s book “Captive” was how Allison Mack abused India.
Allison and India had been sleeping together the night before Allison was arrested.
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It’s really not hard when you have such beautiful friends… #accidentalart #soulfood
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Predatory #monsterousallisonmack prowling for victims
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India Oxenberg one of Allison’s “recruits”
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Disgusting
The Allison Mack Tribute Page posted this picture of Ms. Mack recently.
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Finally – An Apology
Some have been personally offended by my calling Allison Mack “dim-witted.”
I do apologize to dim-witted people everywhere by comparing them to a sadistic monster like Allison Mack. Most dim-witted people are not deliberately cruel and mean like Allison Mack is.
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I loathe Allison too but now that she’s been demoted and no longer wields any power over anyone anymore, I can finally begin to see her as Frank does, partial victim.
“when Frank Report was the only publication that was consistently writing about her and her master, Keith Alan Raniere ”
And how many lies? after the trial , some of the FR writing ended up true but most were false…one of them, you illustrate it a few line below this “disclaimer”
“When I first broke the branding story in June 2017 – I was told by those who had friends and relatives and even some who were branded that it was Mack, along with Raniere, who was on the brand. ”
And yet…it’s not and some people who trully know about Raniere said it clearly…but of course, nothing stand in a way of a story (true or false)
“I heard from Sarah Edmondson – who had Lauren Salzman as her master – but saw Allison as the virtual leader of the women of DOS.”
And she was wrong…or she lied (again)
“So the point is I got a lot of information from people who felt they were abused by Mack, and despite some saying that the initials were only Raniere’s on the brand – there are still some who think that the evident A-M ”
Because of you, Frank, Investigation showed that Allison didn’t had anything more to do than anyone else involved…
Her initial were definately not included and some of the other slave believed that their initial was in the branding.
The reality is (and like it or not) that there is only a K a A and a R for Keith Alan Raniere…
You shouldn’t play with letters. Remember what ACK stand for?
now about the village idiot:
“Allison Mack was certainly into a lot of money-making schemes in Nxivm.”
And yet she was completly broke way before the trial…she didn’t had a 2 millions dollar house and when arrested couldn’t pay…
“She led Jness. She was the head of the Source. She was involved in the Knife and was a proctor in Nxivm.”
And India was the leader of the delegates…was she making money? you are just a pathetic idiot who transform what was said.
First ,she was ONE of the leader of Jness (and it was bringing money, it was a public front…to make the whole Nxivm less culty)
Second, she was not the leader of the source…Vicente clearly point that many people fought for the lead and it was unclear who was in charge…
Third , she was supposed to be part of the knife …but didn’t.
The knife who paid how much per hours?
You are just an absolute idiot that forget about the truth and the details when it fits his fantasy
“She claimed to want to help people but she was really turned on by sex with Keith Raniere, the money of the Bronfmans, and the power of being in a sex trafficking gang.”
Except that the truth is showing the exact opposite and she isn’t a sex trafficker you idiot…but what are facts to you ? nothing that you can’t twist
“Mack chose to chuck acting away with her choice of sex trafficking for a career. She might as well go to prison and go 100% rogue.
Since Allison likes Hispanic women like Daniela Padilla, prison will offer her lots of “Hot Tamales” to choose from.
And both San Francisco and New York City both have vibrant lesbian communities.
Allison’s bad luck with men makes lesbianism an attractive option for the former thespian.”
See, this isn’t showing you as a sane person pointing the truth but as a mentally sick pervert who is absolutely disconnected to reality…not that it’s a surprise to any sane person
“Which abuse?”
A major theme in Catherine Oxenberg’s book “Captive” was how Allison Mack abused India.
Allison and India had been sleeping together the night before Allison was arrested.”
Sleeping with you would be an abuse to anyone (just hearing or reading you is…)
Allison was sleeping with Nicole too at one point and guess what? nothing happened…
And there is nothing True in what you say…When someone worthy of trust with testify for it (but it’s not a crime ,so…)
“It shows Allison Mack in a mirrored elevator posting a selfie of herself. No one else is in the elevator with Allison Mack.
But her tongue is in the typical Allison Mack pose of hanging out of her mouth.”
You convinced me…kill the witch!!! there is your proof!
You just show again what an obsessed idiot you are…nothing else
“And Allison Mack is a Sex Trafficker and a Pimp.
I hope I did not mince any words in describing the Real Allison Mack.”
Well for describing the real Allison, you would need to know her and not go with your pervert sick fantasies…
And nope, she is neither a pimp nor a sex trafficker.
But you are definately an idiot and you get on the nerve of many.
Not because you say the truth but because you YELL your lies all the time.
G– The problem with cults and ” oh, but there was good”, is the indecisiveness that got victims into the mess to begin with.
” Sure, Hitler was bad, but he did good things, too.”
“Yes, my father used to beat me with a belt when he was drunk, but otherwise he was a great person.”
We hear it everyday.
Inability to separate the wheat from the chaff is part of why they were lead astray.
When the manipulation starts, they are fully reprogrammed and it takes a disastrous event to undo it.
This happens on the individual level and even spreads into a social consciousness on societal levels.
Here’s what it boils down to.
The actors, well actresses since I don’t believe any male actors were duped (Calum Blue told Catherine this was bs during that first class. He left, she stayed.) were all looking for a “get rich quick” scheme to stardom. Neither Keith nor Nancy had any film, tv or theater experience. What they had was the gift of gab and the ability to chat up fame-hungry actresses.
Ask any actor, or actress, who has been in the business for decades and they will tell you its endless auditions, taking small roles when offered, trying ones hand at various acting jobs and accepting both failures and success the same all the while realizing fame is fleeting and acting is consistent hard work.
By the way. All Keith did was repackage, rebrand method acting and call it the Source and Allison fell for it. Too bad her education is so lacking she was/is unaware Keith stole the idea.
If Allison reads this blog, my advice is she needs to spend her time getting an education. She’s easily led due to her ignorance.
Not education. Passive knowledge doesn’t help the vulnerable.
Passive knowledge will help one listen to KR statements, dissect them, and realize they are nonsense.
But the underlying vulnerabilities still exist…..
Method acting has only been around for seventy years.
“She’s easily led due to her ignorance.”
You certainly are ignorant…especially on how cult work (yet you pretend you were in one)
Education has NOTHING to do with what happened…how many people screwed by Nxivm had a nice diploma on the wall?
Doctors, Lawyers, and other were also falling for this stupid cult.
I’m also quite fed up to see that for the many village idiots (that includes you ,g) , There is only Allison in this cult…
16000 people were members…
And while you , shadow and an hand of idiot try to put everything on Allison’s back, she was Nothing else than any victim wasn’t…
Aim at those who are really the cult leaders like Raniere ,the salzmans and those never worried by the justice system (despites being cited plenty in the trial)…
Agreed
The Original Cast.
And 16k is a lot of ppl.
Now , we are dripping blood
Oh the sensationalism of lies!
Makes for good stories though, huh?
Allison Mack is a victim. Her mind was manipulated, as well.
Never wish anything bad on anyone. I hope she finds peace and success and retribution.
One big problem with cults is the damage may take years to undo, if ever.
Do KR’s victims realize they’ve been defrauded, or do they still think he’s Vanguard?
With the likes of peaonyu, we have room for doubt.
Sadly my bet is Allison still believes and may continue to do so for the rest of her life.
Barb Bouchey still touts Keith as a good bf and says NXIVM has good she wants to sell to us.
g; no she doesn’t…
First you know Nothing about her so stop with your idiotic allegation (even if it’s Under the desguise of a bet)…you really get along with Shadow .
Second, she isn’t Under the diet so no, she isn’t in the same state…like it or not, it’s a scientific fact that the diet had a terrible impact on her mind, it isn’t disputable , not even a bit…unless you are an idiot
Third , you compare a person who was in love (willingly) with Raniere and who made her own decision to someone who was controlled completly Under diet, sleep deprivation and a collateral….
I highly doubt that. Americans are always giving criminals jobs. She will become a rapper like all the others that pass through the Yankee Justic System!
As a Britisher, you might be shocked by this revelation but most Americans don’t care for Rap Music.
Most people call it Crap Music.
Rap music is violent and misogynistic much like Allison Mack herself.
“Rap has surpassed rock to become the biggest music genre in the US, according to the end-of-year report published by Nielsen Music. R&B/hip hop represented 24.5 per cent of all music consumption in the US – the largest share and the first time it had led the measurement for a calendar year. Jan 4, 2018
Only in the ghettos and Barrios where gangsters are looked up to as role models.
Real Americans despise Rap Crap Music.
“Real Americans” according to Shadow are defined as only those who agree with him.
pull up your big boy pants Shadowstate. your bias is showing, again. No wonder Frank is partial to posting your rants and raves. Take a pill.
To Girl Scout Cookies:
” your bias is showing”
Everyone has bias, even you.
A person without bias is not using his or her brains.
My bias is based on facts and reason.
For Nicki Clyne:
Canadian Rap Music
The Dead South – In Hell I’ll Be In Good Company [Official Music Video]
You forgot a sentence: “for those 15 and under or an equivalent education.”
I AGREE. It is crap music, with a disgusting message, crammed down our kids’ throats.
Most teens are now reverting to classic rock. Thank God.
——-Most teens are now reverting to classic rock—–
source?
There is lots of good rock music.
But Rap is not good for anything.
Rap generates the most revenue in the worldwide music industry.
Violent american ‘mumble’ rap is produced by a predominantly old white male industry and VERY F*CKING MOSTLY consumed by white americans across a very wide demographic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZIzD0ZfTFg
No wonder you hate this Shadow – way to much truth.
UK grime/rap is merking the scene with its coherence and brilliance. I’ve offered up at least two examples of this brilliance on this site by now. If you know, you know.
Mr. Shadow has obviously “graduated” from wikipedia to a thesaurus. As I commented in an earlier story, Mack’s acting career is far from being over.
“Mack’s acting career is far from being over.”
Maybe Allison Mack can learn how to be a decent human being instead of the sadistic monster she truly is.
Scott, the examples you cited were people like O. J. Simpson, Lindsay Lohan and Phil Spector.
How are their careers doing?
And Scott, you forget to mention what else is in Allison Mack’s future:
Lawsuits from the many women victimized by Allison Mack
I already addressed your [cherry picked] “examples” in another response. Most of the women can’t afford to sue Mack, so I’ll be the one not holding my breath for that to happen. LOL
“Most of the women can’t afford to sue Mack, so I’ll be the one not holding my breath for that to happen. LOL”
Once again, Scott, you get the facts and the law wrong.
Many lawsuits involve the lawyer being paid on a contingency basis.
On top of that in a civil RICO suit if the plaintiffs win the law provides for the losing defendant to pay the plaintiffs’ lawyer.
“Rather than authorize private civil RICO plaintiffs to seek equitable remedies, Congress
in Section 1964(c) granted private parties the right to bring suit to recover treble damages and
attorney’s fees. Section 1964(c) provides that “(a)ny person injured in his business or property
by reason of a [RICO] violation . . . may sue . . . and shall recover threefold the damages he
sustains and the cost of the suit, including a reasonable attorney’s fee.” 18 U.S.C. § 1964(c).
Civil RICO:
A Manual for
Federal Attorneys
https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/usam/legacy/2014/10/17/civrico.pdf
Once again, Mr. Shadow, you get simple logic wrong. Good luck getting a lawyer on a contingency basis, Mack is broke and you have single-handedly prevented her from making money ever again at the only thing she knows, acting. LOL
Well Weinstein would hire Allison since we know she’s sexually loose.
Keep in mind what they were about to engage in just before the Mexican police burst in.
Yep, she fits into Hollywood just fine or she can do porn or a Playboy or Hustler spread.
A lot of them are like Weinstein, he was just caught.
Wrong, Shadow. Mack will work again, and here’s why.
Show biz in America needs her. Not for talent or beauty, but for notoriety and FREE PUBLICITY.
There are over 400 scripted shows on broadcast networks, cable, streaming etc—so how can they get viewers attention? They cast someone like Mack. Some viewers like you will loudly condemn her casting, while others (like some here) consider her a victim and say you criticising her is victim shaming…but the controversy is publicity and gets eyeballs, just like here on the FR.
Mack might be a guest on the Ellen show, or on a cable Ellen-wannabe, where she is lauded for fighting to regain her dignity after being wronged by an evil man. Maybe that’s her first step in hosting her own talk show, featuring victims of cults or Amway.
And think of all the low budget movies most people don’t even know exist. But if they cast Mack they will get free publicity with all the controversy. Wouldn’t you like to see Mack in a low-budget slasher film, as the killer or the victim?
The only place we won’t see Mack is as a guest on Kreuk’s Burden of Truth.
Mack could even JOIN Amway! I would bet that Kristin Crook(ed)’s show will be over by the time Mack gets out of prison.
“Mack could even JOIN Amway! ”
Mack would be better off working for Goodwill.
Why, don’t you want Mack to lose money?
“Show biz in America needs her. Not for talent or beauty, but for notoriety and FREE PUBLICITY.”
There is such a thing as BAD PUBLICITY.
Why is it that no one has seen fit to put O. J. Simpson on TV or in the movies since his release from prison?
In an era of #metoo and female empowerment Allison Mack’s story is an embarrassment to Hollywood and to all decent people everywhere.
And Hollywood has no end of beautiful and talented actresses who don’t carry Allison Mack’s considerable baggage.
Allison Mack had her day in the sun and she blew it.
And LaLaLad you forget that in the Lifetime story about NXIVM Hollywood already has a good replacemnt for Allison Mack.
An actress named Sarah Fletcher.
In fact there are several projects in the works about NXIVM and Allison Mack will NOT star in any of them except as a demented character played by other more talented actresses.
I will focus on just one of these projects because of the production company making it and its ties to the US Government.
Here Are All The Hollywood Productions About NXIVM
https://www.thewrap.com/hollywood-hearts-nxivm-all-the-projects-about-sex-trafficking-cult-currently-in-production/
One of the NXIVM projects is a TV show by Annapurna TV based on the New York Times stories.
Annapurna is a very special production company.
It is owned by a young woman named Meghan Ellison.
Ellison is the daughter of Larry Ellison founder of Oracle Software.
A major long-term customer for Oracle is the Central Intelligence Agency.
“Larry Ellison Is A Billionaire Today Thanks To The CIA”
https://www.businessinsider.com/the-cia-made-larry-ellison-a-billionaire-2014-9
Because of her family’s ties to the CIA Meghan Ellison’s Annapurna company received lots of government cooperation in filming “Zero Dark Thirty” the official US government narrative of the execution of Osama Bin Laden.
The Annapurna project will be the government’s official version of NXIVM.
And Allison Mack will be the equivalent of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the top henchmen who carried out all of the group’s terrorist actions.
And when Allison Mack was directing the branding of women and blackmailing women Allison Mack was acting as a terrorist.
Like duh!
Yet Hollywood aka celebs are so incestuous who knows?
Like you don’t understand Hollyweird. Go back to talking about your cult.
Felicity Huffman, the actress who paid to have her kid’s SAT scores faked, just got sentenced to prison time. A token sentence, to be sure, 14 days. But still, it’s an indication, not even the rich can count on getting off scot-free. Actually going to prison — for cheating on an SAT test.
Makes me hopeful that Mack will serve some serious time.
Most people can understand what Felicity Huffman did.
Huffman and her husband Bill Macy have a daughter with learning disabilities and they wanted to help her make it into college.
While it was illegal, it is an understandable action.
Compare that to what Allison Mack did.
Allison Mack tortured and dehumanized women.
Allison Mack turned women into sex slaves through the use of blackmail.
People can relate to what Huffman did.
Only a pure Sadist can relate to what Allison Mack did.
I know this conversation isn’t about the SAT scores, but I wanted to point out that what Felicity Huffman did was exert her stardom and money, and bully, with her money, many of the potential students who worked hard their whole lives to get accepted into a prestigious college. What Felicity Huffman did was boot out a deserving student, her daughter would have been taken care of with all the money she had, her daughter’s future was already secured for life. I think her crime was despicable, but not heinous. I guess that’s all I wanted to say…
I’m not saying that what Huffman did was right.
In fact it was very wrong.
But it was wrong on a different level than what Allison Mack did.
Devious Allison Mack enslaved women through lies and blackmail.
And to be blunt many universities award places through legacies.
Children of alumni get preferential treatment.
Witness the example of George W. Bush getting into Yale because his father and grandfather were “Elis”.
Wow !
you call Allison Mack almost every name in the book ,
Did you read King Solomon 3 pages long confession ?
“Did you read King Solomon 3 pages long confession ?”
https://www.sacred-texts.com/grim/kos/kos09.htm
Let’s go through that confession to see how many of them would apply to Allison Mack:
1.) ” For I have sinned before Thee by pride, avarice, and boundless desire of honours and riches; by idleness, gluttony, greed, debauchery, and drunkenness; because I have offended Thee by all kinds of sins of the flesh, adulteries, and pollutions”
Boy does that apply to Allison Mack!
She sexually abused young women who were her slaves and helped Keith Raniere do the same.
Allison Mack committed all kinds of sins of the flesh including using nude photos and videos to blackmail women.
Allison Mack also falsely claimed to have won an Emmy for her work in the TV cartoon “Lost in Oz”
2.) ” by refusing to give ear unto the cry of the poor”
When women cried out in pain while they were being branded by a hot iron, Allison Mack insisted the branding continue.
3.) ‘ by not keeping my word, by disobedience to my parents,”
Without going into details Allison Mack falsely accused a relative of molesting her nephew.
4.) “by indulgence in sensual pleasures”
Adonna, have you ever read about the orgies Allison Mack engaged in at the annual V Week celebrations?
5.) “by irreverent behaviour in the Temple of God”
Adonna, Those orgies I just talked about were committed in a resort on Lake George owned by the YMCA.
In other words, Adonna, Allison Mack soiled the Temple of God.
6.) “by unseemly gestures ”
Adonna, Allison Mack repeatedly sticks her tongue out at people.
Is that an unseemly gesture?
7.) “by my idle words, my lies, and my deceit”
Adonna, Allison Mack lied to women promising them female empowerment and tortured those women and turned them into sex slaves.
Adonna, Allison Mack needs to do a lot of confession and repentance to make up for her years of debauchery.
Allison Mack is going to be sentenced? Really? I’ve heard this rumor for a long time, but so far, no verification. Let me look out my window and see if pigs have sprouted wings for then we will know that this is really going to happen.
No need to look out of your window Nickvi. No pigs will be flying, but Mack will be sentenced to several years in Jail.
She is a convicted felon, and that means she will be sentenced.
Nicki will have to console herself with her new lover, Michelle.
Allison herself told Michelle that she has a beautiful “c___” so I believe Nicki will somehow survive this personal ordeal.
Sexual fidelity does not seem to be a big deal with the women of NXIVM.
I’m okay with keeping Mack trapped in her parents’ home for a long time, with the worry of the unknown length of her sentence hanging over her head.
“I’m okay with keeping Mack trapped in her parents’ home for a long time,”
I’m not sure that her parents are OK with being trapped with Ally Wack.
I understand they supported Mack joining NXIVM, so they got what they deserve.
In the interest of being fair and balanced.
According to Shadowstate1958, “The Real Allison Mack is:
Childish
Immature
Juvenile
Arrogant
Asinine
Self-centered
Conceited
Entitled
Stupid
Brutal
Cruel
Sadistic
Vicious
Vile
Evil
Wicked
Nasty
Horrible
Unpleasant
Obnoxious
Unpleasant
Repulsive
Distasteful
Disgusting
Loathsome
Nauseating
Offensive
Odious
Repellent
Revolting
Rude
Foul
Nasty
Reprehensible
Heinous
Demented
Depraved
Perverted
Despicable
Degenerate”.
I don’t know about all that negative shit Shadowstate1958 claims.
I only know Allison Mack from her photos and watching a few episodes of Smallville.
Let me share with you the reader what I feel is the true Allison Mack.
Well I happen to think the real Allison Mack is attractive and has a nice tongue for exploring various unspoken orifices. Mack has fine voluptuous calves with thick hearty wholesome ankles. She has nice hips for holding onto for those long hauls. Her bossom is not full but ample enough to be satisfying to the eyes. Allison has a decent ass and I feel most men would tongue punch her fart box given the opportunity. The only negative I can see is the fact that she has feet that look like E.T.’s feet from the 80’s movie.
I definitely, would bang Allison Mack.
My guess is Shadowstate1959 has fantasized about everything I have mentioned at least 173, 689 times.
Isn’t that right Shadowstate1958?
Raniere won’t be sentenced until 2020.
https://m.timesunion.com/news/article/NXIVM-leader-Keith-Raniere-won-t-be-sentenced-14437749.php
“It is what it is, once we figure out what it is,” said Garaufis.
A great quote from today’s Curcio hearing.
https://www.courthousenews.com/nxivm-cult-case-defense-attorney-wants-to-become-a-prosecutor/
The brand is plainly AM as well as KR.
This is perhaps the most horrible part of this bizarre and shameful story. The women who were branded are marked for life. Mack proudly claimed to have a hand in the decision to go with branding rather than a “mere” tattoo, and I see no reason to disbelieve her. Tattoos can at least be largely removed. These horrible things cannot be.
For her eager leadership of DOS, Mack deserves a long prison term. Anything less than ten years in federal prison would be, in my opinion, a miscarriage of justice.
That she was a fool is no excuse.
Acteon, I think there may be variations in the brand – and perhaps, for instance, those of slaves in Mack’s pod had the extra “leg” to form the AM whereas others did not – leading to some understandable confusion.
See, for instance,
Her role in the branding of other human beings treated as slaves, under the duress of “collateral” blackmail, and in the absence of proper informed consent if not actual deception, is indeed perhaps one of the most damning things. I think that her willingness to go on the record with the New York Times as taking credit for it – that’s not just the result of being a bit tired and hungry; it’s the deliberative dedication of someone who might even kill for their guru if necessary.
Thanks, now I understand where the false notion of the “M” came from. They needed it to spell out KARMA. There is no “M”, it is a figment of your imagination.
Scott, I agree that it’s unsettled, and open to interpretation.
However, it’s pretty clear that there are at least two variations of the brand, whether intentional, or accidental or coincidental:
That second one certainly really looks like it’s got the extra “leg” added to make it say AM as well as KR.
This is the sort of thing that I think really does merit further investigation, and that might actually shed some light on the situation if, for instance, either Mack’s pod or all the slaves branded under her supervision bore her marks as well, further indicating her unique role. We’ve seen that things were very compartmentalized in NXIVM and even in Raniere’s inner circle, typically of such groups or cults, so if there was a variation in brands or extra initials inserted into some of them, not everyone could be expected to know about it. And if so, Mack and anyone in her camp would certainly want to try to sweep it under the rug.
I always thought the design was “KAR” for Keith Alan Raniere. But I acknowledge that there can also be an “M” in there as well.
The only difference in the above pictures is they are upside down from each other. There is no “extra leg,” the left side of the “R” in one of them is not included in the second one, and the side of the “M” merely retraces part of the “K.”
……And if yeh look at the Volkswagen VW logo the right way there is a natzi swastika……LOL
Seriously….
………Keith was definitely clever enough to design the initials just so AM could seem like a possibility.
It’s really anybody’s guess.
Hear, hear.
You are spit on. Being a fool for so long is no excuse for her role in this criminal enterprise.
Wasn’t it said in court that the brand contained the initials of Keith Alan Raniere? If that was the case it would still leave the M to be explained. Marianna perhaps? But it is pretty likely that Allison’s initials were in the brand.
I don’t think there ever was an “M” in the cauterized initials, just a need to have an “M” in order to spell out KARMA.
It wasn’t the removal issue as much as it was the level of pain, and therefore dedication to the NXIVM cause.
“The brand is plainly AM as well as KR.”
Too bad the people who’s opinion matter Don’t think like you…
“Mack proudly claimed to have a hand in the decision to go with branding rather than a “mere” tattoo, and I see no reason to disbelieve her. Tattoos can at least be largely removed. These horrible things cannot be”
Too bad this was proved to be Nothing but a forced interview which make you look like an idiot…
“For her eager leadership of DOS, Mack deserves a long prison term. Anything less than ten years in federal prison would be, in my opinion, a miscarriage of justice.”
Too bad it’s not your decision
“That she was a fool is no excuse.”
Well there is one and it’s scientificly proved…the diet!
But what is your excuse for being the idiot you are?
One of my favorite contemporary journalists is John Kass of the Chicago Tribune.
When the legendary writer Mike Royko died, Kass took his place.
Kass is the son of Greek immigrants who owned a small butcher shop in Chicago and as a kid Kass saw how his father had to pay off the city inspector with choice cuts of meat to keep his shop open.
John Kass is street wise.
Kass has popularized the word “Chumbolone”
Noun. Pronounced: “chum’-buh-loan”
1) term originally used primarily in and around the Chicago area to describe a person who is easily tricked into doing something directly counter to their own personal self-interest; 2) since the 2008 presidential election, also applied to anyone outside the Chicago area who exhibits similar incapacity for sound judgment; 3) a person so devoid of common sense that they can be manipulated in any number of ways without having the slightest clue as to how ignorant and/or stupid they are.
Application: Originally applied to lesser-educated Caucasians of lower intelligence who tend to believe anything that government officials and the news media tell them; since the 2008 election, now also applied to better-educated and intelligent Caucasians of all ages and genders who are totally devoid of any street smarts whatsoever, as well as to members of all other races, age groups and genders who also continue to believe whatever is told to them by government and media representatives evidence to the contrary notwithstanding.
Synonym: chump, dupe, stooge, imbecile, sucker, idiot, hick, hayseed, moron, roundhead, ignoramus, dumb-ass, dip shit.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Chumbolone
Allison Mack is the perfect example of a Chumbolone.
A stooge who believes whatever is told to her.
A chump with no common sense.
Raniere taught all kinds of asinine nonsense.
That women would be empowered by being sex slaves.
That it is OK for an adult to have sex with a 12 year old child.
That it is natural for a man to have a harem of women serving him.
That when a man ejaculates on a woman she belongs to him forever.
And the Chumbolone Allison Mack believed every word.
Of course Allison Mack to some extent profited from the NXIVM scams she was involved in.
Mack profited from the Source, her bogus acting school.
She received income from serving as a Coach and Proctor.
Mack no doubt felt empowered by hanging out with the rapacious Bronfman family.
And Mack gained a sense of power by lording it over her many (more than one hundred) female slaves.
And Mack herself enjoyed the services of those female slaves.
But when Mack jumped into the NXIVM cesspool she failed to appreciate that the stench of NXIVM corruption and crime would stick to her for the rest of her life.
Allison Mack is like Lady MacBeth forever trying to wash out the stains clinging to her from her many crimes.
If Allison Mack were the only victim of her own stupidity, no one would care.
But truth be told many young women bought into Allison Mack’s lies and were in truth big time victims of Allison Mack and her friends in the NXIVM criminal gang.
Those young women are the real victims of Allison Mack’s duplicity and deviousness.
And many of those women will bear the scars of Mack’s criminality for the rest of their lives.
Frank, I don’t understand how you can pat yourself on the back for helping to bring down this cult, and then turn around and give a voice to someone like this. He has previously posted homophobic and anti-muslim statements, in addition to blatantly wrong info about Allison and others. He also likes to bring up repeatedly that some of the women under Keith were Jewish, like that’s somehow evidence of something. I think it’s time to start censoring this guy.
” He has previously posted homophobic and anti-muslim statements,”
“He also likes to bring up repeatedly that some of the women under Keith were Jewish, like that’s somehow evidence of something. ”
Max, if you want to see a real homophobic or misogynistic society go to an Islamic country in the Middle East where homosexuals are repeatedly executed and women are treated like fourth class citizens.
As an example of Muslim misogyny look up the phrase “female genital mutilation.”
“Prevalence of female genital mutilation by country”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_female_genital_mutilation_by_country
As for some NXIVM women being Jewish it is not an issue with me except when Raniere told these women that they are “reincarnated Nazis” and these women just sat there and took it.
Their complacency in terms of accepting such non-sense is distressing.
oh, but there are no ultimate victims (at least when it is convenient for NXIVM members, anyhow).
You’re right.
When NXIVM is bankrupting or harassing people there are no victims.
Even John Tighe, who was set up with planted evidence, is not a victim in the NXIVM lexicon.
When NXIVM members finally get some long-overdue justice then the non-stop howling begins.
Notice the way you just slid Miss Shadow State into the mix. I avoid reading anything by her or Acteon, and you caught me off guard by putting her by line farther down. Neat trick.
“I avoid reading anything by her or Acteon,”
Yes, you don’t want to be confused by facts or reason.
After 1,000 times, even niceguy gets it. You hate Mack’s guts.
And Scott, will you admit that Allison Mack hates women?
Most women hate other women. It’s in their DNA.
LOL Scott
Many of your other “earnest and prolific” contributors have posted under their own name. This would be interesting because it would allow us to get to the truth behind the whispers that Mack’s handlers needed to get an order of protection against a certain older obsessed fan of the B- actress. These whispers were heard when Shadowstate first appeared on the Frank, which coincided with the Frank’s increased scrutiny/coverage of Allison Mack.
Of course Shadow will tell you that he fears the wrath of Claire Bronfman and others and that is why he will not disclose his name. Shadow sleeps with a tin foil helmet, and has a spare on the nightstand. After all Raniere/NXIVM were set to control world politics, starting with Libya and Mexico (with the help of Basset Hound Igtet Bronfman and the World’s stupidest Harvard graduate, Emiliano Salinas), not to mention the criminally deranged Nicki Clyne, a modern day Bonnie Parker.
Do not let the always entertaining Shadow(stalker?) fool you: he is not upset that Ms. Mack sports a brand somewhere under her panties, he is upset that the brand says “KR” and not “S/S 58”.
“Many of your other “earnest and prolific” contributors have posted under their own name. ”
So your real name is “All of them Witches”?
And I thought that was just a pseudonym.
” the truth behind the whispers that Mack’s handlers needed to get an order of protection ”
Who are Allison Mack’s handlers?
I thought Allison Mack was an independent empowered woman who did not need handlers.
Weren’t Allison Mack’s handlers named Keith Raniere, Clare Bronfman, Sara Bronfman and Nancy Salzman?
Let Nicki Clyne or one of her personas tell us who Mack’s handlers are.
” Shadow will tell you that he fears the wrath of Claire Bronfman”
My birthday is coming up and I would like the lovely, generous and kind Clare Bronfman to give me a nice birthday gift.
A spare million dollars would do.
I promise that I won’t get Clare into trouble with frivolous lawsuits and Federal investigations like her friends Keith Raniere and Allison Mack dragged her into over the past few years.
“not to mention the criminally deranged Nicki Clyne, a modern day Bonnie Parker.”
What do you have against Nicki Clyne?
Ms. Clyne for all of her clownishness, has kept NXIVM together.
She is diligent and industrious and her writings are funny, sometimes intentionally so.
Ms. Clyne’s social media following has slowly grown over the last year from 109 to 165.
Why is Nicki Clyne criminally deranged but Allison Mack is not?
I would argue that Allison Mack is Clyde Barrow and Nicki Clyne is Bonnie Parker.
What would be more trendy than a lesbian Bonnie and Clyde?
In fact Allison even likes to dress a bit like a gangster with a fedora.
What other woman do you know likes to wear fedoras?
” In addition, well-known gangsters such as Al Capone, Charles Luciano, and Benjamin “Bugsy” Siegel used the fedora to create a “tough guy” image. ”
https://www.instagram.com/p/1B8VRrJi7T/
“So your real name is “All of them Witches”?”
He or she isn’t the one who keep making false accusation, idiot!
It’s fair to point that you Don’t use you real name when you accuse (falsely) someone…
It’s easy and safe huh? Until the authorities get notified about your behavior and start a procedure against you…
Just because you Don’t use your real name and post from a Library , you are not invisible …
They can easily get to you once the procedure is properly launched.
BTW ,your continuous false accusation is really helping the procedure so please, continue with your defamation.
Frank, you de-legitimize yourself by continuing to publishing shadow articles OVER AND OVER AND OVER again. I get free speech and all, I respect that, but this guy is starting to sound like Scott Johnson and his MLM constant never ending diatribes. Now I completely ignore him, I hope I don’t completely ignore your website…. I do find it fun and informative and insightful. That was not a threat, instead a sincere I hope.
I know you won’t post this but I’m just hoping you’ll think about it, if not for just a split second. Have a great day! Thanks for everything you do.
KC, this blog focuses on NXIVM and similar criminal activities.
And it so happens that Ms. Mack was a major leader in the criminal NXIVM gang who recruited many women.
100% agree…
Shadow is showing is lack of knowledge in Nxivm, his obsession toward a victim of the cult and Nothing more but Frank is interested by the clicks…
He forget that he has a liability in Shadow’s perpetual defamation .
Actually, Frank himself start to defame (thinking he is not at risk…until he’ll get a nice surprise from the authorities)
But Frank isn’t exactly the role model Citizen…so he Don’t care about justice, Truth or the potential risk of lying to authorities or public.