Fight Over Calories Caused Nxivm Slaver Allison Mack to Attack Slave Sister Esther Chiappone

MK10ART - the two of them fought for control - Esther Chiappone Carlson and Allison Mack.

Esther Chiappone Carlson – the present leader of Nxivm in Florida – has long been part of a group of women who have given their lives to Keith Alan Raniere.

This remarkable woman still follows him faithfully despite her revered guru being behind bars.

In order to keep her internal representation of him stellar in her heart and mind, Esther is one of the Nxivm women who has not read a single report of the trial.  She has not read one word of bad press about Raniere [even dating back to 2012] and may be the only Nxivm member who has not even once logged onto the Frank Report.

If anybody tries to tell her anything bad about Raniere, her Vanguard, – even quoting from the trial transcripts -or a comment from Frank Report – she cuts them off with “I will not hear you” and, if necessary, will walk away.

One of her sons and her daughter both left her over her devotion to her Vanguard – after they realized he was a criminal and a pervert.

But Esther remains faithful.

Her son, Robbie, as readers know, was the special target of Keith’s jealousy. Keith set out to destroy Robbie. He was angry that Robbie had an affair with his virgin, Camilia Fernandez.

Camila ‘Virgin Camilia’ Fernandez had been set aside for Keith Raniere who took her virginity at age 15. When she was in her 20s and Keith was having sex with her and other women, she strayed and had an affair with Esther’s son, Robbie. This ruined everything for Keith who now told her she could not have his avatar baby because she had polluted herself with Robbie’s semen. Keith demanded that Cami find another virgin to replace herself.

So jealous was Keith that he demanded to know from Cami whose semen taster sweeter and whose penis was larger – his or Robbie’s – though Keith made it a point to declare that his penis was definitely larger [when he was not suffering from erectile dysfunction] by at least three-quarters of an inch. It is not clear how he knew this.

As for Esther – she knows nothing of Keith’s abuse of her son – for she will not read a word about how Keith went after her son [which came out at the trial] and will not listen to it either.  Esther knows it is all made up propaganda and lies to hurt the best man in the world.

Besides, even if it were true, if you lose a son, it is always possible to get another – but there is only one Vanguard.

In 2015, Keith Alan Raniere was quite certain that his penis was three-quarters of an inch larger than that of Esther’s son, Robbie – when Keith was fully erect. Cami responded that it might be true, but she reminded the noble Vanguard, that he had not been fully erect for quite some time. This all came out in court – and actually, the jury and the judge at times could not contain their laughter at the foolish Vanguard. Happily, Esther knows nothing of this – she has made up her mind that Vanguard is perfect and any data that contradicts that is simply untrue.

To her credit, Esther is still holding down the fort – providing Nxivm teachings to eager students.

Because recruitment is hard right now, she has set up her own multilevel marketing business, using an insurance program – with Symmetry Insurance- and even has her own downline of Nxivm students. In this way, they [and especially she] can make some money while they strive to bring Nxivm back.

Esther Carlson Chiappone is a long-time High Rank at Executive Success Programs. Today, she cannot make enough to pay her bills from her Nxivm-related work so she sells multilevel marketing insurance.

Over the years, Esther has been a great recruiter for Raniere, bringing people in to learn from his many teachings.

Today, she explains, to potential recruits. that Raniere has been like Christ crucified and is in prison [and will soon be freed]. She tells potential students that his teachings are as evergreen and pure as the human mind can comprehend and that in a bad world, it is only natural that the cleanest spirits are sometimes imprisoned. But Raniere, she proclaims will rise again and take over the leadership – once he learns whatever lesson he needs to learn about man-made justice in this world.

Presently, Esther has emerged as one of the leading women of Nxivm – who has not been indicted and convicted.

While Dawn Morrison, Ivy Nevares, and even a shame-faced Rosa Laura Junco are not standing by their Vanguard, Esther is true blue.

 

Of the inner circle of Vanguard – many have left, some have died and some remain true and steadfast – like Esther Chiappone Carlson. The government may have left Esther [and also Sara Bronfman] out of the inner circle chart they used at trial – but Nxivm members and ex-members know that Esther was part of the inner circle – even if Raniere did not fully trust her. It is ironic that while Raniere often kept secrets from Esther – and not from Dawn or some of the others – they left him and Esther remains.
Jness is the women’s group controlled by Keith Raniere. It teaches women to accept men as polygamists. The highest and most advanced women in Jness were invited to join DOS where they were permitted to be branded on their pubic area with Keith Raniere’s initials.

Esther is now the leader of Jness – the women’s group created by Raniere that was utilized to recruit slaves into DOS.  She also continues to teach Executive Success Programs [Nxivm tech] to a small group of followers.

It is hard going right now for, unlike Esther, many people read stories about Raniere online and they opt not to join Nxivm.

Even when Esther explains that, if you leave everything and dedicate yourself full-time to the teachings of Raniere, you will achieve her kind of wisdom – people still shy away.

In the past, Esther brought many to Raniere’s courses. She also helped with Jness, which was an excellent field for harvesting women to the courses.

Her recent takeover of Jness is glad tidings for those loyal to Raniere.

In the past, Esther used to work hand in hand with Pam Cafritz in the early days of Jness – before the upstart Allison Mack came along and ruined things.

pold del negor
James Del Negro, a friend of Esther Chiappone -Carlson.

Yes, it is true. At one time, Esther and Allison Mack fought for control of Jness. Allison won.

MK10ART – Keith Raniere and Allison Mack had a closeness, something to offer each other and something in common [see center] that Esther Chiappone Carlson just could not compete with.
Now that Allison Mack is under home arrest, Esther has triumphantly returned as leader of Jness – while Nicki Clyne heads DOS.

Adorable Nicki Clyne leads DOS and is friendly with her slave-sister Esther Chiappone Carlson.

These two get along together much better than Esther and Allison did.

Allison and Esther fought like dogs and cats.

It provides us with an insight into the inner workings of the Raniere organization.

Chiappone=Carlson and Mack worked together on building Jness, the women’s group founded on the conceptual teachings of Raniere.

Raniere’s teachings in the women’s group, Jness, are rather simple: Women are selfish, vain creatures, entitled princesses, who excuse their way out of all their faults and fail to take responsibilities and are naturally fickle. For their own good, they need a man to lead them and they need to be monogamous to that man – even if he has several other women also under him.

On the other hand, men are noble and self-sacrificing. They are leaders, who always take the brunt of the burdens of humanity – mostly caused by women and their faults – and men literally carry women on their shoulders. Strong men should be polygamous – because that is what nature intended: That worthy men should plant their seed in as many women as possible and if a man ejaculates on a woman – especially her face and if she drank his semen – it meant he owned that woman – for she absorbed some of his DNA.

While both Esther and Allison agreed with Raniere’s sublime teachings, they nevertheless had a fight.

It could almost be called a food fight but the stakes were high: Which woman was going to be the leader of Jness and promulgate Raniere’s teachings – now that Pam Cafrtiz was dying.

Chiappone-Carlson tried to stay slender and was generally slender enough to qualify as a proctor [green sash] but she had aged out of harem level attention from Raniere [She went to James Del Negro who, as a beta Nxivm man, was happy to accept what some might call “sloppy seconds.”]

Esther at V-Week. She was fairly slender but had just a little too much meat on her bones to qualify for that concentration camp look Raniere so desired.

Esther liked food too much to consider going on a 500 calorie diet like some of the DOS dunces did.

Image result for esther chiappone carlson

Around the time Mack was leading DOS for her master Raniere, Carlson noted that Mack was losing weight.

Allison Mack had gone from nicely proportioned [above].

With adorable, if not quite chubby cankles.

A nice figure…
To a skinny, even emaciated – almost shapeless woman.

Allison Mack.
MK10ART – Allison with a branding pen and an arrow of devotion – shot right through her head.

Chiappone-Carlson was critical of Mack’s 500 calorie diet. She thought Mack was going overboard and her 500 calorie diet was unhealthy.

Mack rebutted that their master, Vanguard, taught her that the 500 calorie diet is right for spiritually advanced women [which she suggested that Esther was not].

Mack, who was a famous actress, was trying to help other young women realize their higher spiritual abilities by persuading them also to go on the same 500 calorie diet. Some of them agreed to follow Mack. Esther tried to dissuade them – but who was Esther after all – just a middle-aged Nxivm teacher – while Allison was a famous actress.

OLD ESTHER
Esther Chiappone Carlson said that Allison Mack was bulimic and it created a fight.

Chiappone-Carlson stood her ground. She said that Allison was not becoming more spiritually advanced by eating so few calories and in actuality, Allison was getting weaker and sicker and not thinking clearly.

Chiappone-Carlson had the audacity to claim she thought Mack was bulimic – and pointed out that Allison often vomited her food after she ate.

Esther told Allison and others that Allison should get professional help to start eating properly.

Mack realized this ran contrary to Raniere’s teachings which is that spiritually advanced women do not need more than 500 calories per day.

Deeply upset with Chiappone-Carlson saying she was bulimic in front of other women –   Mack went to Raniere for advice.

Raniere told her that Esther was a fool and that Allison was on the right path. With his support, Allison ousted Chiappone-Carlson from her position of authority at Jness and effectively silenced her and took over the leadership of Jness.

Chiappone-Carlson lost her role in Jness – which caused her to quit for a time.  She refused to become Mack’s slave, unless Raniere personally ordered it and he did not.

Carlson and second-fiddle man James Del Negro remained in Nxivm and continued to teach – but Esther stayed away from Jness.

There Is Justice in the Nxivm Jungle

Ironically, Mack is now going to prison and Esther remains free. She has just recently resumed her role as leader of Jness.

Esther Chiappone Carlson has resumed her rightful role as leader of Jness.

How Did Esther Come to Albany?

BTW, some might be interested to learn how Esther Chiappone Carlson first came to Albany to live under the princely one’s rule.

She was living in Alaska and married with three children. Around 2001, she started taking Nxivm courses in Alaska – and then came to Albany for the 16-day intensive.  She was young and pretty and Pam Cafritz soon arranged for her to meet Keith.

Keith, who knew all, told her that she was actually unhappy in her marriage – she just did not know it. How can you argue with the smartest man in the world? And Keith – so generous a man was he that he spent extra time with her offering to personally mentor her.  He soon got her to shed her disintegrations as well as her clothes. Then he proposed that she and he have a meaningful sexual relationship.

Esther wanted love and monogamy too – if she was going to leave Alaska and come to Albany.  Keith agreed. She would be his only woman and then they would marry and she would birth for him an avatar child. She took her kids away from her husband and moved from Alaska to Albany to be in a relationship with Keith.

After getting here and setting up a home and working full time as a Nxivm recruiter and teacher, she found out that Keith was actually fucking lots of other women. She was furious. Nancy Salzman and Pam Cafrtiz had to intervene and calm her down.

Nancy said to Esther – “Do you think you own Keith’s penis?”

Esther thought that Keith and she would be married. Now, she knew it was just a lie, but she had already left Alaska. She had relocated with her children. She was a teacher of Nxivm and was financially dependent on Keith.

She stayed, but to her credit – she refused to be in his harem and took on Jim Del Negro – who had left his wife, Shelly [after Nxivm showed him he was unhappy with her].  Jim and Esther became a couple.

To her credit – unlike the other women Raniere fucked – Esther did not agree to not having another man the rest of her life. She did say no to being in his harem and not having another man – if you can call Del Negro a man.

In any event, it is a pretty story with a happy ending.

Today, Jim is the head of the Society of Protectors – the men’s group and Esther is the head of Jness – the women’s group.

Both await the great day when Nxivm will, like the Phoenix, rise again.

From NXIVM’s Website

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Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago

Hmm interesting fantasy story…

“Yes, it is true. At one time, Esther and Allison Mack fought for control of Jness. Allison won.”
Trial didn’t seem to confirm this theory.

“Chiappone=Carlson and Mack worked together on building Jness, the women’s group founded on the conceptual teachings of Raniere.”
Once again, i didn’t see any proof of this allegation in the trial.

They had no reason to lie about it and there is no reason why they wouldn’t talk about it.

“Chiappone-Carlson stood her ground. She said that Allison was not becoming more spiritually advanced by eating so few calories and in actuality, Allison was getting weaker and sicker and not thinking clearly.”
Another of your source?

“Chiappone-Carlson lost her role in Jness – which caused her to quit for a time. She refused to become Mack’s slave, unless Raniere personally ordered it and he did not.”
You are such an idiot…new are so sparse that you change the truth…
BTW “slaves” started in 2015 with DOS, The diet started (for Allison around 2013) just for your record…

“Mack, who was a famous actress, was trying to help other young women realize their higher spiritual abilities by persuading them also to go on the same 500 calorie diet. Some of them agreed to follow Mack. Esther tried to dissuade them – but who was Esther after all – just a middle-aged Nxivm teacher – while Allison was a famous actress.”
Rewriting history much?

“Ironically, Mack is now going to prison and Esther remains free. She has just recently resumed her role as leader of Jness.”
Wait so now you support a cult that existed for 20 years and destroyed life for a long time pretending that it’s Allison’s fault?
No because here, it sounds like it.

BTW , how about sticking with the truth and the fact instead of a ridiculous fantasy.

THE DIET WAS NOT ALLISON’S IDEA…Vicente witnessed that it was Raniere assignment to Allison (and Raniere said it was to destroy her)

Let’s not forget that the trial was based on the truth and witness testimony…not your fantasy Frank.

She was following the diet just like thet other victims and it was RANIERE’s DEMAND.
You try to make it sound like Chappione is a good person while she was one of the bad guy AND she is still a follower…

Other detail:
Branding: you continue with it but it’s factual that Allison was not that implicate in it (not more than the other “masters”…why the need to change the reality to come back to your false stories?

Cankle : I advice you to look what is a cankle because aside making you look stupid, it also show how cheap you are and how much you sound like shadowstate (more and more)

Truth: you should trie to use it sometime…there was a trial and it was demonstrated that while Allison was implicate in the crime (superficially), she had no mean of decisions.

Everything she did was done by other masters too…they received their instruction from the only master of DOS, Raniere.
It’s not disputable, it’s in the court info.

Also , the trial demonstrate nothing that you talk about…just that she had a fool mouthed (like a few other in the trial, including Jaye (which was unnecessarly vulgar)) ,she was collecting the collateral but that is about it.

We now also know that she wasn’t in the real inner circle until end of 2015 (after collateralization),she was spending time with other inner circle but she wasn’t in.
It was clearly said that Raniere didn’t trust anyone unless fully collateralized.

shadowstate1958
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

“Branding: you continue with it but it’s factual that Allison was not that implicate in it”

Let’s set the record straight.
Allison Mack supervised the branding.
Allison Mack directed Danielle Roberts in the branding.
That makes Allison Mack guilty of the branding.

By your erroneous theory, Keith Raniere was not even present at the brandings so, therefore, he is 100% innocent of the branding.

“how much you sound like shadowstate (more and more)”

All Frank Parlato is doing is citing the facts about Allison Mack’s activities.
All I am doing is citing the exact same facts about Allison Mack’s activities.
Anonymous, you live in an alternate reality where all of Allison Mack’s numerous crimes are written off as misunderstandings.

“Everything she did was done by other masters too…they received their instruction from the only master of DOS, Raniere.”

So, if everyone in the criminal gang just follows orders and robs banks, then everyone is equally innocent?
So, if everyone on the highway is driving 30 miles per hour over the speed limit but only one person is ticketed, then everyone is not guilty of driving over the speed limit.
So, how is the weather in Bizarro World?

AnonyMaker
AnonyMaker
4 years ago

Branding also took place at Mack’s home, though Anonyme/”Frenchy” has illogically and fallaciously tried to claim that wasn’t possible because she had roommates – though as the new first round of testimony posted shows, her roommates at the time WERE her slaves (A/F, who poses as being on top of all the facts of the case, is getting confused or obfuscating over the Vicentes’ having shared the place with Mack at times before they quit NXIVM).

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  AnonyMaker

Anonymaker:
I really have a harder time to answer to you then to Shadow for some reason (i don’t take as much pleasure in moking you because you are not always stupid)

“Branding also took place at Mack’s home, though Anonyme/”Frenchy” has illogically and fallaciously tried to claim that wasn’t possible because she had roommates”
I never said that…i said it was not possible in a paper thin walled condo…And the branding DIDN’T TOOK PLACE AT MACK’s HOME

First, She signed the renting contract when branding were not done anymore (june 2017)
Second, It was ALLEDGED but never proved (till the end, the prosecution clearly state that…there is no proof)
Nobody can say for sure that it happened in her condo.

Stick to the fact instead of twisting the truth, once again

” though as the new first round of testimony posted shows,” her roommates at the time WERE her slaves”
Untrue…Nicole wasn’t directly a “slave”, she lived under the same roof and only saw the morning “routine” that RANIERE was pushing for them…

If the branding occured there, she should know…Idiot!

Do you understand what is a fact and what is an allegation? an allegation dropped (the property was released during the trial due to unconclusive investigation)
Hence the “allagation” and the “might have happened”…But it’s too subtle for you apparently.
The difference is real thou
Facts are undisputable
Allegations are accusation unproved (or not yet proved…but they ,then , become …facts)

AnonyMaker
AnonyMaker
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

First, what property did she supposedly rent? She bought 7 General’s Way in October, 2011 and still owns it, according to government records to which I have previously provided links.*

Edmondson of course said that her branding took place in Mack’s home. And Lauren Salzman specifically testified in court that she had several of her slaves over for a “a candle-lighting ceremony” and dinner, before taking them to Mack’s for branding.

Yes, you did actually claim among supposed excuses:

“Third, Allison didn’t live by herself since she entered deeper into the cult…
She had housemate since she moved in Knoxwood…

I remind you that the condo was rented by her starting AFTER THE BRANDING!”

https://frankreport.com/2019/08/21/evil-woman-allison-mack-would-have-been-as-cruel-and-heartless-as-ghislaine-maxwell-had-she-not-been-arrested/#comment-99871

As reported the other day, Sylvie testified “they were girls that were all staying with Allison Mack… Nicole and Jaye …helped, I think India helped and Michele [Hatchette] as well.” All of those women were in Mack’s slave pod, see for instance https://artvoice.com/2019/06/09/nicole-part-4-allison-mack-took-closeups-of-her-slaves-pussies-told-one-you-have-a-beautiful-cunt/

And Mack cunningly tried to forestall any problems with neighbors hearing what was going on in her home, by going around and telling them that screaming might come from “yoga.”

Pay attention to the facts, and quit trying to twist things around attempting to downplay Mack’s role and culpability.

p.s. Frank/Claviger, at some point could you please post that section of the transcript where Salzman describes taking her slaves to Mack’s for branding? Diane reported it, as did courtroom observers for several other news sources, but I can’t find her full testimony.

* https://saratoga.sdgnys.com/propdetail.aspx?swis=413800&printkey=27904500020070000000

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago

You talk about setting record straight Shadow? are you kidding me?

Let’s really put record straight:
“Allison Mack supervised the branding.”
Where you seen that ?

” Allison Mack directed Danielle Roberts in the branding.”
No she didn’t, Sara Edmondson never said Allison was there at her branding nor anyone…
The only video they showed was with LAUREN

” That makes Allison Mack guilty of the branding.”
Guilty of the branding…Except it’s not a crime idiot!

“By your erroneous theory, Keith Raniere was not even present at the brandings so, therefore, he is 100% innocent of the branding.”
By your erroneous theories, RECORDED PROOF DON’T EXISTS…
Raniere was not present but the records show that HE conceived the branding…NOT ALLISON

Also BRANDING ISN’T A CRIME! It’s not part of the case you ass!

“All Frank Parlato is doing is citing the facts about Allison Mack’s activities.”
No he is not…he is deriving what is written to make it sound different…
He interprete what Sylvie said…
It’s a fact that Allison never tried to flee (or else she would have stayed out of the Us, idiot)…yet he interprete a “she wasn’t in Albany” into a ‘she go hide in mexico’…
That is absolutely untrue and clearly disproved…and if he publish a story about something and twist what was said to fit his fantasy, it’s clearly a “shadow” kind of behavior.

” All I am doing is citing the exact same facts about Allison Mack’s activities.”
Suuuuuuure, but you probably don’t post those facts around here because all you post is lies

“So, if everyone in the criminal gang just follows orders and robs banks, then everyone is equally innocent?”
No but if the victim commit the same crime, they should get the same punishment…

BUT since they are under coercion (which Allison was too), They aren’t considered as criminal.
So why Allison is a criminal?

We hear about duran, padilla and others , you see them under house arrest? you see them risking to spend time in jail? and clyne and India? India is still seen as a victims while in trial, she was shown as much as a criminal as Allison

All isn’t just black or white in a CULT case…It’s funny to see how everything in the testimonies and the way it work say “it’s a cult” and how many decided “yes it is for everyone but for Allison”…

“So, how is the weather in Bizarro World?”
I don’t know, tell me about it?
I’m not the one living in a permanent lie…

Should we talk about your absurd decision to write to the judge? WHEN YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS CASE AND YOU KNOW NOBODY LINKED TO THIS CASE?
Should we talk about your habit of pathologically lying systematically?
Should we talk about your insane obsession about a girl half your age and only an hatefull kind of obsession?

Before trying to give me a lesson about sanity (while trying to twist what i say) i advice to analyse your own situation (or get analyzed)…

Pàul
Pàul
4 years ago

Mack’s ‘cankles’ and knees appear to me to show signs of joint inflammation/arthritis, probably due in part, to a lack of Omega,3,6,9, antioxidants, Vitamin C, D, Zinc, Magnesium, Selenium and a whole slew of other anti-inflammatory factors found in a normal diet. Vitamin supplements help, but they can’t replace a healthy diet. Malnutrition is serious. Opinion only, but I am a qualified Healerbeast on 8 of Jupiter’s moons.

Scott Johnson
4 years ago
Reply to  Pàul

I’m sure there’s an Amway distributor out there somewhere drooling at the prospect of selling Mack lots of vitamins/supplements.

Paul
Paul
4 years ago
Reply to  Scott Johnson

Anybody who eats a well balanced diet doesn’t need to take vitamin supplements on a regular basis. There may be temporary situations where their use can be helpful, but for the majority of healthy eaters they’re just not needed. Unhealthy eaters *might* benefit from taking certain supplements, but they won’t remove all the negative effects of a bad diet. For some medical conditions, certain specific supplements are essential, even if the patient is eating a very healthy diet.

Scott Johnson
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul

Most people don’t eat a well balanced diet. The AMA does not agree with you, what are your credentials?: https://www.sciencebasedhealth.com/ContentPage.aspx?WebpageId=228

Pea Onyu
Pea Onyu
4 years ago

It is an insult to truth and an outrage to justice shadow state to suggest Nicki Clyne has anything to do with Keith’s arrest or especially that she wanted him gone so she could take over.

shadowstate195
4 years ago
Reply to  Pea Onyu

Pea:
Do you want to know who really had something to do with Raniere’s arrest?
In fact they had everything to do with Raniere’s arrest.
Keith Raniere and Allison Mack.

Keith Raniere had no end of consenting adult women who were wiling and eager to satisfy his desires.
And it still was not enough for the hog.
Raniere had to brand and blackmail women to be his sex slaves.
Like the saying goes:
“Pigs Get Fat, Hogs Get Slaughtered.”

And Allison Mack is also responsible for Raniere’s downfall.
Allison Mack claimed to love Raniere and a woman who truly loves her man, whether she is his girlfriend or wife or significant other, tries to restrain his worst impulses.
A woman who loves a man does not cater to his worst whims.
And Raniere’s whims are about the worst whims one can imagine.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  shadowstate195

“Allison Mack claimed to love Raniere and a woman who truly loves her man, whether she is his girlfriend or wife or significant other, tries to restrain his worst impulses.”

Nice fantasy story but she never claimed that…ever!

You are lacking new material so you make your own? No surprise there.

Smallbany
Smallbany
4 years ago

A little birdie told me Siobhan’s in Boston.

Paraphrase: it seems some feel wrongfully persecuted and are waiting it out.

shadowstate195
4 years ago
Reply to  Smallbany

If you read Shivani’s posts (I believe Shivani is Siobhan), you see what kind of people were attracted to NXVM.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  shadowstate195

Shadow…stop with your analysis, you ass-clown.
You don’t need that to make a fool of yourself.

Shivani is siobhan…what an idiot you are

IMO
IMO
4 years ago

Rosa-Laura Junco shame-faced? Where? Must have missed that.

Bad mother of the world award goes too....
Bad mother of the world award goes too....
4 years ago

Esther came into NXIVM as an MLM’er and now she makes her money as another MLM’er
NXIVM taught her how to move up in the world and be successful.
She should have left her four kids with their dad. They could have had a normal life. She exposed them all to Keith Raniere. What a bad mother.

Flowers
Flowers
4 years ago

Where are you getting this information? I dont see any proof that any of this is true….you should provide some type of evidence to back up your claims that NXIVM is still offering classes.

For this “G” idiot to claim that Bouchey is involved in operating these alleged classes is slander.

Maybe she will sue.

😉🤞

Hmmmmm
Hmmmmm
4 years ago
Reply to  Flowers

Looked like Bouchey put on some pounds. Wonder if she is paranoid ? Wonder if she has cats ? Naaaa

Just Wondering
Just Wondering
4 years ago
Reply to  Flowers

Flowers, you’re in favor of people suing when someone publically posts untrue information about them?

Flowers
Flowers
4 years ago
Reply to  Just Wondering

So you’re saying that the comments about Bouchey are untrue? So, do YOU think she should sue?

Mugwort
Mugwort
4 years ago
Reply to  Flowers

You’d like that wouldn’t you? Anything for a cheap drama, avatar swinger

Scott Johnson
4 years ago
Reply to  Flowers

How are you so sure BB isn’t teaching NXIVM classes?

Flowers
Flowers
4 years ago
Reply to  Scott Johnson

I never said I was sure she wasn’t, did I? Learn to read, Scott. I said “G” has no idea if that’s true, he just fabricated this idea in his head and posted it as though he had proof.

Just Asking
Just Asking
4 years ago
Reply to  Flowers

Flowers are you saying that people shouldn’t post ideas they just fabricate in their heads as fact?

Flowers
Flowers
4 years ago
Reply to  Just Asking

Apparently we are going in circles here. If you think its okay for Frank and G to post that NXIVM is still operating and that these people mentioned are still giving classes, then that’s your opinion.

Personally, I would like to see some type of evidence that it’s still operating, otherwise this story seems like something the National Enquirer would print.

Flowers
Flowers
4 years ago
Reply to  Just Asking

But keep up the bullshit , “Just Asking” and you just might end up incriminating yourself….as you can’t seem to realize that you’re painting yourself into a corner. Think about it, stalker.

Ghost of Scott Johnson
Ghost of Scott Johnson
4 years ago

This all relates back to Amway and their tool scam.

I was a putz and got scammed by Amway. Now, I blame Amway for all my problems and all I have left is posting on message boards.

Viva Amway Success

Scott Johnson
4 years ago

Some ghosts just don’t get it. I wasn’t a putz. I did get scammed by Amway, and so have millions of others. I don’t blame Amway for all of my problems, but they did scam me for a lot of time and money. I do a lot more than posting on message boards.

Girl Scout Cookies
Girl Scout Cookies
4 years ago

accurate.

Scott Johnson
4 years ago

Oh no, a catfight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za1XVgQhsJU LOL

The Symmetry insurance MLM appears to use the same high-priced lead generation scam that some high-level Herbalife distributors were using and probably led to this suicide of a very high level distributor when the lead generation scam was ordered to be shut down by the FTC/Herbalife: https://www.google.com/search?q=herbalife+peterson+suicide&oq=herbalife+peterson+suicide&aqs=chrome..69i57j0.6504j1j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

shadowstate195
4 years ago

What a charming, heartwarming NXIVM story just like all the other NXIVM stories.

Hey, Pea Onyu/Yolanda Cortez what do you think of this lovely story?
Everyone gets what they want.
Esther gets control of JNESS.
Nicki gets control of NXIVM DOS and de facto control of NXIVM.
And Allison is now a world-famous GANGSTER.
From North Pole to South Pole, people know that Allison Mack is a PIMP.
When Allison gets out of the joint, maybe Nicki can give her a job cleaning the toilets in a Bronfman mansion.

Viva Executive Success!

Scott Johnson
4 years ago
Reply to  shadowstate195

Everyone gets what they want? Mack wants to go prison and clean Bronfman’s toilets when she gets out of prison?

shadowstate1958
4 years ago
Reply to  Scott Johnson

Allison is into sado-masochism.
What better form of sado-masochism is there but going to prison and later cleaning Clare Bronfman’s toilets?
And while Allison is in prison she can get all of the lesbian sex she wants.

Scott, if you don’t believe that Allison Mack is into sado-masochism then read this story:
Part 1: Allison Mack Through the Looking Glass – Testimony About Her During Raniere Trial Gives Insight Into Her True Role in Sex Slaver Cult
https://frankreport.com/2019/09/08/part-1-allison-mack-through-the-looking-glass-testimony-about-her-during-raniere-trial-gives-true-insight-into-her-role-in-sex-slaver-cult/

Allison Mack is a real piece of work.

Scott Johnson
4 years ago

I think Mack likes to dish it out much more than take it, which is what she will be doing in prison.

shadowstate195
4 years ago
Reply to  Scott Johnson

In prison Mack will encounter real bad asses, not other middle class white girls.

Theory?
Theory?
4 years ago
Reply to  shadowstate195

How about this for a theory…. Nicki wasn’t being stupid when she posted that pic of herself in Mexico on her Gram. She did it deliberately knowing KAR would be arrested and ultimately found guilty. She wanted to control the organization and wanted him gone.

shadowstate1958
4 years ago
Reply to  Theory?

Good theory!
On top of that, Nicki deep down despises both Allison and Lauren.
Allison’s ascent in NXIVM displaced Nicki and Nicki also dislikes Lauren.
As an actress on TV and in movies, Nicki would be familiar with camera angles.
And that cell phone video was framed to include Allison in the picture.

Paul
Paul
4 years ago

The photographer got the focus point and depth of field wrong in that picture of Jim Del Negro. He should have focussed on the background, which would have rendered the foreground out of focus.

Totally Loser
Totally Loser
4 years ago

Esther had four children under the age of ten when she left her husband in Alaska to move to Albany NY to be with Keith Raniere.

What kind of woman leaves her husband, take her kids away from a father who loves his kids and is an active parent, moves them from Alaska to Albany NY after only knowing a guy (and his group of followers) for a few months?

After everything she has learned within the first year of NXIVM, 19 years later, she stays true to the idiot who rocked her family.

Scott Johnson
4 years ago
Reply to  Totally Loser

Some people will do anything to get out of Alaska.

KC
KC
4 years ago
Reply to  Totally Loser

Where the children taken to NY illegally, or with active parental approval?

Scott Johnson
4 years ago
Reply to  KC

At this point, what difference does it make? The kids are all adults now.

g
g
4 years ago

If NXIVM, like the Phoenix, rises again, you can bet Barb Bouchey has a hand in doing so.
She has stated it more than once, the “good” of NXIVM and what a prince among bf’s Keith was.
Yet, she forgets to mention Keith advocating pedophilia, violating, by his own actions, the sanctity of childhood by grooming, and having groomed for him, underage females.
Our sisters, our daughters, our cousins.
Keith is a sexual deviant and Barb, or anyone who defends any part of NXIVM, which was, and is used, as a vehicle for his sexual deviancy and God knows how many others participated, or enabled, in so doing.
So much for feminism and the #me too movement, folks.

I say we start asking Nancy, Lauren, Michelle, Allison, Nikki, Clare, Sara et al, whom they all groomed, handed off to Keith and had sex with and the ages of the victims.
I think we have just scratched the surface of these dirtbags.
And Barb stood in line at the courthouse extolling the virtues of Keith.
(I know you read this, Barb, that’s why I keep reminding you that you will be opposed).
Nancy and Lauren want to reintegrate into the community. Yeah, right. Lock your doors, folks.

PS: And not one word about AMWAY or mlm because it never was about that, Scott.

Scott Johnson
4 years ago
Reply to  g

Feminazis and #metoo have always been jokes.

How are you going to ask all of those women who they groomed, and why do you think they will respond?

This is absolutely about AMWAY, because that’s where Raniere started and learned all of the MLM scam basics, including telling people not to get their information from sources outside of the scam. g, the cult you were in brain damaged you and it’s too late to tell us which cult you were in, because at this point you would lie about it. You’ve had several months to help others not get mixed up in the cult you were in and you’ve been repeatedly asked to help others not get scammed by it, and you refuse to help them. That’s called selfish. We don’t even know your real name and you still refuse to do the right thing. You’re a joke, and not the funny kind. LOL

Toni Natalie Dethroned
Toni Natalie Dethroned
4 years ago
Reply to  g

No one stood by his side longer than Toni Natalie.
He had many underage women in his CBI days and Toni stood by his side through CBI
Toni ran his company National Health Network, hiding the fact Raniere was running another pyramid scheme.
Toni again joined him at the beginning of NXIVM but was mad Nancy Salzman was put in charge and not her. That’s why she left. She couldn’t handle the fact she wasn’t the Queen Bee.

AnonyMaker
AnonyMaker
4 years ago
Reply to  g

I doubt that any of the people who have been away for a long time are going to be involved in starting anything new, or they would have found a way to do so already. Plenty of people who leave some group fired up to carry on their vision of the “good” and how they think things should work, go ahead and do so, as in the examples of the many offshoots of Scientology – and most quickly run out of steam when they discover that there’s really not that much good, and that most of what was alluring or compelling was a sort of collective obsession that dissipates outside the hothouse environment of a cult.

And what have feminism and #metoo got to do with it? Those movements arguably contributed getting Raniere and enough of his inner circle convicted to cripple NXIVM, and have moved on to focus on going after Epstein’s co-perpetrators and enablers, and back to trying to finish dealing with Weinstein. It’s not their responsibility to make sure they’re somehow represented in every discussion group on the internet.

niceguy
niceguy
4 years ago

The argument, “Do you think you own Keith’s penis?”….

….has to be the dumbest argument ever made……

And only the dumbest women on the planet would accept it.

WTF?

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago

These women are fucking stupid.

This is what happens when you aren’t well grounded with an intellectual basis for your belief system. You fall for false leaders.

KC
KC
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

I would bet everyone of these women manipulated by Keith Rainier has big daddy issues.

Scott Johnson
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

We wish we could all be as smart as you, but we don’t know who you are, Anonymous.

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His work has been cited in hundreds of news outlets, like The New York Times, The Daily Mail, VICE News, CBS News, Fox News, New York Post, New York Daily News, Oxygen, Rolling Stone, People Magazine, The Sun, The Times of London, CBS Inside Edition, among many others in all five continents.

His work to expose and take down NXIVM is featured in books like “Captive” by Catherine Oxenberg, “Scarred” by Sarah Edmonson, “The Program” by Toni Natalie, and “NXIVM. La Secta Que Sedujo al Poder en México” by Juan Alberto Vasquez.

Parlato has been prominently featured on HBO’s docuseries “The Vow” and was the lead investigator and coordinating producer for Investigation Discovery’s “The Lost Women of NXIVM.” Parlato was also credited in the Starz docuseries "Seduced" for saving 'slave' women from being branded and escaping the sex-slave cult known as DOS.

Additionally, Parlato’s coverage of the group OneTaste, starting in 2018, helped spark an FBI investigation, which led to indictments of two of its leaders in 2023.

Parlato appeared on the Nancy Grace Show, Beyond the Headlines with Gretchen Carlson, Dr. Oz, American Greed, Dateline NBC, and NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt, where Parlato conducted the first-ever interview with Keith Raniere after his arrest. This was ironic, as many credit Parlato as one of the primary architects of his arrest and the cratering of the cult he founded.

Parlato is a consulting producer and appears in TNT's The Heiress and the Sex Cult, which premiered on May 22, 2022. Most recently, he consulted and appeared on Tubi's "Branded and Brainwashed: Inside NXIVM," which aired January, 2023.

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