Nxivm Perv Leader Keith Raniere Taught ‘Rape as a Metaphor for Orgasm’

MK10ART’s masterful portrait of the ethicist Keith Alan Raniere.

Pervy Nxivm sex cult leader [and convicted sex trafficker] Keith Alan Raniere taught a lot of disgusting and morally offensive teachings about women, sex and rape.

He taught these openly to his students, such as actresses Allison Mack, Nicki Clyne, Kristin Kreuk, Grace Park, and Kristanna Lokken; heiresses Clare and Sara Bronfman; his top assistants, Lauren and Nancy Salzman; Rainbow leader Loreta Garza; Knife Media leader and heiress Rosa Laura Junco; the former Mexico president’s son, Emiliano Salinas, his wife, actress Ludwika Paleta, his sister, Cecilia Salinas, and his lover, Alex Betancourt; and other prominent ad rank and file Nxians in Mexico, Canada and the US.

In short, his filthy and controversial teachings – which were regarded as pearls of outstanding wisdom – he freely shared with his mostly female devotees. Here is what Raniere openly taught about rape and orgasm.

The following is from a transcript of a video Raniere made on October 24, 2012. In it, he makes a fine point about how if a woman wants to be with another man – to let her go. You can’t just put her in a room, he says.

Ironically, and we are not calling Raniere a hypocrite – he may have had a deeper, more noble ethical purpose which we are unable to fathom – but it is a fact that he did put Daniela in a room for nearly two years [from 2010-2012] because she wanted to date Ben Myers and had, in fact, kissed him.

He also expressed insane levels of jealousy over Daniela’s sister, Camilia, who had sex with Robbie. He became so obsessed about it he even wanted to know whose semen – his or Robbie’s – tasted better and spent considerable energy explaining to Camila that his penis was actually larger than Robbie’s when his erectile dysfunction was not standing in the way.

But again, he may have had a higher, more ethical standard than people who are not as smart as he – who might otherwise think he is a small-minded, jealous little fuck.

Keep in mind – as you read his disgusting thoughts below that he taught this openly, notoriously and to most of his followers. He put this in a video and it was available for others to view and to learn from and he taught this regularly in person, according to numerous women who he told these same teachings to.

His followers learned the following – and believed it to be true – because a condition of Nxivm – to be a student and to remain in the classes – was to accept Raniere as the community’s ethicist and of course the world’ smartest man.

Rape as a Metaphor for Orgasm

By Keith Raniere

Do you know that there is a certain percentage of women that when they get raped they have orgasm even if they don’t want it?

There are even some women, a few that I’ve spoken to, counseled, that they never had an orgasm in their life until they were raped….

[The husband or boyfriend feels badly about the rape]. Don’t you feel like you should throw her out?  Some guy who didn’t even give any damn about her [the rapist] came in did what you couldn’t do, not even caring about her?

Maybe you even work hard to do that.  You feel totally insufficient….  I mean, one of the things about men, that’s our whole thing.  We earn.  We want to be worthy. We want to be given the laurels.  We want to be told we are the champions.  How do you do that?  You [women] have sex with us.

We beg. We beg all of our lives, as little kids. We’re the ones who had to ask the women out on the date. We are the ones who get refused over and over again….

I will tell you I’ve had in my past various sexual experiences. I’ve had sexual experiences with women that have had other partners. I have had other partners myself and things like that…

When you really love someone, if you really love a woman and she wants to be with another man, it may sadden you and you may feel deeply insecure, but you are going to say, ‘Let it be.’

If you care for her and that is what she wants, do you really want to say, ‘No, you can’t. I’m going to put you in your room?’  That’s not love.  That’s not love for her person.  You have to let it go. It is a moral imperative to let her go.

Sex, Rape and Orgasm.

In the case of rape, it’s the same thing. There is the tension ultimately of being overcome, but release and it is a sexual experience. In a sense, it’s the very act of sex. Most people feel inhibited during sex because they believe it’s bad and, therefore, do not reach orgasm during the act of sex.

Often, women who have [been raped] report an unexpected experience of freedom which occurs during rape.

Women [during rape] actually become hypersensitive to the sensation of sex because the issue of it being bad or inappropriate does not exist during rape; freeing them to achieve orgasm.  It’s almost as though they don’t experience their normal fears regarding sex which frees them to feel this sensation.

This is often a very confusing experience for them because they don’t want to like what is happening to them yet they have orgasm.

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Why is this important? Why is it important to report what the rascal deviant said? After all, he is going to prison – he is already in custody – he is not getting out for years to come, if at all. It is important so that we understand that he was not alone. His followers – like the vicious Clare Bronfman or the stupid Allison Mack – believed this. They promoted it.

If we are investigating crimes this organization undertook – many of which they have not yet been charged – we have to understand their mindset. A group of women [his inner circle], led by a man, believed in this utter bullshit, psychotic nonsense.

The man is justifying rape. He is normalizing it. He is making rape seem almost like a necessary adventure, instead of talking about it as the damning, harrowing frightening torture of violation and ruthless invasion of another human being.

There is no joy in rape – yet Raniere – setting up his own world of rape perhaps – is speaking of it – indoctrinating his female followers – that should he perhaps rape them – they might just like it. It is believed he raped several women and not just in the sense of statutory rape of young girls.

He is a criminal – and it is always good to understand the criminal mind so we can ward against it and protect ourselves from it when it is spotted elsewhere.

It has been said that now in custody, Raniere may be raped himself. Perhaps he will have an orgasm while being raped and actually be able to understand his own theory in a way he never could have imagined.

 

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  • So…..where were the feminists? Hmmm?

    Nowhere to be found, even now.

    And Barbara was heard pontificating about Keith’s wonderful virtues as a bf.

    I gather advocating rape and child sex are admirable attributes in her thinking.

    Folks, Barb wants to bring the “best” of NXIVM to us.
    What say you?

    • “Where are the….” is a tiresome and fallacious trope, that erroneously tries to put a burden on others.

      One answer, though, would be that they put Raniere behind bars, and have now moved onto more pressing things like going after Epstein and his accomplices, and finishing seeing that Weinstein gets his just desserts. And that’s somehow not enough for you, sitting at your keyboard?

  • It’s fascinating to read in Oxenberg’s book how even though she would have a WTF reaction to some of the cult’s teachings, even during her introductory course, she still recruited her husband and teenage step-daugther and step-son, paid for India to continue with the program, paid for EM’s from Nancy, and flew to Mexico, Canada, and Albany to take all kinds of courses from the cult for some 3 to 4 years.

    It will be interesting to see if Sarah Edmondson addresses Keith’s views on rape in her upcoming book. Maybe Mark Vicente or Bonnie Piesse can write an article for Frank describing what they were thinking as Keith shared his disgusting and morally offensive teachings about women, sex and rape with them during the many years they were members, assuming they aren’t saving that for the HBO documentary or something.

    Did Keith share these views when Susan Dones and Barbara Bouchey were members or did he start espousing these philosophies more publicly once law enforcement and the authorities failed to do anything after the Times Union piece came out.

    • From everything I’ve read about this criminal gang, Raniere made no particular effort to hide his pedophilia or his views on rape or his misogynistic views on women.
      I have to conclude that the top tier of NXIVM DOS agreed with Raniere on these topics.

    • Anonymous, mind if I give a response from my own experience in a cult, since they are all about power, sex and money?

      Cults don’t reveal everything up front, lay it all out in the beginning. One is casually strung along with the inner workings privy to a trusted few whose world is now the cult only and whose moral judgement has now been suspended.
      Plus there’s a lot of word salad going on by said leader. Note the ever ready plastered on smile, the long soliloquies where this kind of stuff would be hidden among what one was told was the main topic yet the real agenda was to propogate sexual acts we would ordinarily find abhorent.
      I was in a cult called the Way International for 2 years. Now I was never openly told, nor did I see it, but the members in leadership, those close to leadership, in the Way Corps, those who had gone WOW, those who lived communally with other Way members saw, knew and participated in sexual shenanigans where the reasoning given was “take care of the shephard and you take care of the flock”. The same reasoning was given for Jim Bakker of PTL being serviced by other than his wife.
      I never saw it but I did suspect my twig leader of being unfaithful to her husband because of her overly flirtatious, touchy feely manner with a new male recruit for the Way. I even questioned her about it and how her husband was off, alone, with female prospects.
      I can’t recall her reply but I do recall her anger at my even questioning and the immediate punishment meted out to myself by her.
      I wae made to feel I was in the wrong.
      Neither Catherine nor Sarah lived in community thus I doubt they would have been privy to it. Add to that they are rather free thinking women, not prudes, who would not look askance at NXIVM adult members sleeping around.
      Once I lived in a houseful of Way women, for a short period of 8 months, I began to see the “anything goes” sexual attitude of the women I lived with.
      When one was on the WOW field one was to be celibate for the entire year, if one was unmarried that is, yet my Twig household was screwing WOW’S right and left under my own roof! I went to my area leader, questioning this, thinking she would enforce Way policy.
      Boy was I naive.
      When the high mucky mucks from headquarters, always men, visited, the prettiest young woman in the area was chosen as his bed partner and rhe young women thought of it as a privilege.
      Again I knew nothing of this at the time.

      Catherine Oxenberg is no prude. In fact she’s a bit risque’ as they say. At one point, and she may still be, she was involved in some group having to do with the female orgasm as some spiritual passageway to enlightenment.

      Do you begin to see the complexity, the drip, drip of it all yet how it always boils down to power, sex and money?

  • If Queef enjoys dressing up and putting makeup on like a woman. Maybe he will enjoy getting close with a big burly man in prison.

    Then he can talk about his rapegasm theory.

  • It seems to me this might be categorized as an example of loaded language. Raniere could have chosen a different metaphor, but he picked that particular one because it fit with his worldview, and what he was trying to inculcate in his followers.

    Typical of cults or high control groups – and culty thinking in general – it’s based on anecdotes and biased self-reinforcing perceptions, not any rigorous study of the matter, though it’s couched in pseudo-science.

    I agree it’s important, because remaining followers, and even people who left but still retain some of the indoctrination, may believe it and possibly act on it. It’s also an example that clearly exposes the deprave amateurism of what he was doing.

  • What is the “certain percentage?” Perhaps 0.1%?

    “[The husband or boyfriend feels badly about the rape]. Don’t you feel like you should throw her out? Some guy who didn’t even give any damn about her [the rapist] came in did what you couldn’t do, not even caring about her?” Why shouldn’t the wife or girlfriend throw HIM out? He’s the one who couldn’t do what the rapist did.

    Sex equals a champion? LOL

    I don’t beg. Never did, never will.

    That proves Raniere didn’t love Dani, he didn’t let her go.

    A tension of being overcome? How about a violation? Can’t wait to hear the stories about Bubba overcoming the tension with Raniere’s sphincter.

    “Often, women who have [been raped] report an unexpected experience of freedom which occurs during rape.” I’d like to review those reports.

    “…the issue of it being bad or inappropriate does not exist during rape….” Bubba needs to say this to Raniere while he’s pounding his anal cavity.

    It would be interesting to know how many, and exactly who, in NXIVM, knew about these “teachings.” I think it had to be very limited, and taught only to the very top level of NXIVM criminals who were slowly boiled frogs for a long time. Otherwise, Raniere’s goose would have been cooked a long time ago. In fact, that was the problem with the cauterizing, it was too much, too soon.

    It’s the same with Amway and other MLM scams, only the top level distributors/company employees know, and very few prospect and distributors are aware of the tool scam and need to have lots of retail sales to non-distributors. Too bad the FTC knows this and largely does nothing. But websites like this and other methods are making progress, even with all of the clueless boo-birds squawking, which only energizes me more. Yes g, I’m talking about you (and others). LOL

  • I believe that many of Raniere’s followers still believe his nonsense.
    They are only laying low because they have been prosecuted and/or are under investigation for further crimes.

    The best way to understand this mentality is to read the words of Pea Onyu (Nicki Clyne).
    Whichever persona she is using she literally parrots Raniere’s teachings.

  • Why did his women followers (and they were legion) continue to follow him? Why did they, many of them feminists, put up with this? Without even questioning, let alone disputing, these kinds of “lessons” from him? This raises the question that’s at the heart of my interest in this and other cults: why do people submit themselves, entirely and wholeheartedly, to a cult leader? Educated, literate, often well-off middle class and upper middle class people who surrender their free will and devote themselves completely to a dictatorial self-aggrandizing leader. What’s going on?

    This article sheds some light on the phenomenon https://quillette.com/2019/09/04/the-frankfurt-school-and-the-allure-of-submission/ It’s mainly about the followers of Fascism, Nazi Germany in particular. But the same principles apply more universally, I think.

    Freedom is hard. Everybody pays lip service to freedom as an ideal, of course, but freedom is a challenge. Even figuring out what you WANT is a challenge. Finding the right path. And then sticking to it. Figuring out how even to get from A to B. And maybe not even being sure you want to go to B. Thinking for yourself may seem great, but then… what am I supposed to think anyway?

    Much easier to let someone else do the thinking for you. Of course, the people who follow their leader don’t admit– even to themselves– that that’s what they’re doing. Oh no. It’s not that Vanguard does my thinking for me. He’s just my guide, my mentor, my guru.

    Following the leader is probably hard-wired into us. We are social animals, who evolved living in groups. It’s what enabled us to survive, collective effort, collective defense. Language gave us our evolutionary advantage, and language isn’t any use to the solitary individual. We banded together. The band needed a leader. Now, the fact that it’s part of our evolved psyche to follow leaders doesn’t mean we have to, or even that it’s “unnatural” to be independent. It’s just a bit harder, to resist the urge.

    The fools who joined Nxivm and DOS didn’t resist the urge.

    One of the appalling highlights of the Nxivm trial was listening to audio of Keith Raniere expound with ill-concealed glee the details of how exactly he wanted his women to be branded on their nether regions, while proud feminist Allison Mack meekly agreed to every S&M inspired detail. Unquestioning, obedient, subservient. To her male Master. Have a threesome with him? Yes, Master. Procure new girls for him, girls who are younger and thinner than she is? Yes, Master. Brand his girls for him? Yes, of course, and how would you prefer it done, sir? So it’s really no surprise that she and all the other feminists of DOS sat meekly and listened to him lecture them on how women wanted to be raped. All it takes is being weak-willed. Being too lazy to free oneself, to be independent. To prefer the shelter and certainty of a cult to the knocks and turmoil and uncertainty of thinking for oneself.

    I find I have little sympathy for the weak-willed fools who joined this cult. They lacked the bare minimum of courage to say “No”. They didn’t question, they didn’t think. In their escape from freedom they empowered this man; without his minions, Raniere would have had no power. They are responsible for a great deal of damage done to others. Because as it turns out, there is no escaping responsibility.

    I don’t buy the argument that Nxians were brainwashed or hypnotized or mind-controlled. They were merely trying to escape freedom. To evade responsibility. Instead of doing the hard work of being an adult, they sought the comfort of childhood, of doing as they were told, of pleasing daddy. The “inner circle” of obedient slaves are despicable. Contemptible. People who decline the responsibility of thinking for themselves, who are too weak-willed to question the path they are following, are not to be coddled as victims, but should be reviled instead.

    • I agree I hope he learns to orgasm from rape.What a digusting and despicable piece of human sewage this flabturd is…its beyind the pale

  • “He taught these openly to his students, such as actresses Allison Mack, Nicki Clyne, Kristin Kreuk, Grace Park, and Kristanna Lokken”

    This is what is very disturbing about Kristin Kreuk’s Girls By Design. If Kreuk was told these things about sex by Keith Raniere and she believed it, that means she would of been happy for the teen girls to believe it too.

    Didn’t “Jane” the DOS slave, recruited into NXIVM through Kristin Kreuk’s GBD say that GBD was supposed to be a “feminist approach to BDSM”? And that Kreuk herself was into it, a “sub”.

    When doing some research on GBD a while ago, there was a series of statements Kreuk made somewhere online about GBD including wanting to discuss “sexuality”. The link must still be somewhere online.

    • “Jane” was obviously some sort of troll. Not sure why anyone on here wouldn’t be able to tell that or would believe anything “Jane” said. According to Frank, “Jane” said Allison wasn’t branded and Allison “prefers secrets over pictures” which we know isn’t true since Allison was branded and Nicole testified about having to take weekly nude group photos before “church” and Allison taking close up photos of their vaginas. “Jane” also claimed that Allison had 12 slaves who were all still loyal, which, in Oct. of 2018, obviously wasn’t true, as Allison had already lost at least Nicole and India. Did Allison even have a second pod of six slaves seeing as how it took her through 2016 to cobble together her original 6. Plus in March – April 2017, Allison was doing the play in San Diego and got distracted and never even got around to getting her slaves to sign their contract.

      • Kristin Kreuk mentioned, followed by a long ass essay… Are you from Kashmir!?

        Not every DOS slave is known about, nor who they were enslaved to and the full story of who got involved and when is not known. A real troll wouldn’t reveal her name and face to Frank when all he had to do was expose her, especially if her face is in GBD photographs. It’s terrible that someone from Kristin Kreuk’s NXIVM club for little girls was recruited into the NXIVM cult. How embarrassing!

          • Jane seems real enough. Certainly enough for GBD to be investigated thoroughly. In a Vice piece, it claimed GBD had absolutely nothing to do with NXIVM which is a huge lie and that Kendra Voth, recruited by Kreuk left NXIVM in 2009, despite being on the 2011 coach list! NXIVM people are self serving liars.

            Come forward Jane!!!

          • —-GBD should be investigated

            I agree, tho I think Jane was making things up about GBD, this is a SERIOUS allegation, whether or not grooming girls was the purpose of GBD, whether or not KK and others knew of that purpose, and whether or not anything bad resulted from it.

            However, the fact the Feds never mention it and that none of the many girls who went thru GBD ever posted here to verify what Jane claims was obvious to all—all that makes me doubt Jane.

  • looking forward to the day when Keith gets raped in prison and he can apply [internalize] what he taught. Curious if he’ll have an orgasm while being fucked in the ass.

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