Jeffrey and William: Evidence of Clinton and Epstein Together Is Increasingly Emerging

JEFFREY AND WILLIAM

Paul Serran is a journalist, writer, and musician. He lives in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

By Paul Serran 

If only things in life were as easy as debunking Bill Clinton’s protestations of innocence in the Jeffrey Epstein case!

By now, we all know Bill Clinton’s statement downplaying his relationship with Epstein, saying he only flew a limited number of times on the Lolita Express, always with Secret Service, and never in the presence of minors is untrue.

We are aware that Epstein had 21 different numbers for Bill Clinton in his phone book. It is also a well-known fact that several of Epstein’s victims “floated the possibility of subpoenaing Clinton.”

Let me begin by parsing his recent public statement with preliminary comments, and then we will go over the evidence in more detail.

“President Clinton knows nothing about the terrible crimes [Epstein] pleaded guilty to in Florida some years ago, or those with which he has been recently charged in New York.”

Fact check: He has been photographed cozying “aboard a plane” with a very young Rachel Chandler, suspected to be an abused child who turned into one of the foremost “child procurers” in the Epstein web.

“In 2002 and 2003, President Clinton took a total of four trips on Jeffrey Epstein’s airplane: one to Europe, one to Asia, and two to Africa, which included stops in connection with the work of the Clinton Foundation.”

 Fact check: Clinton wants to deflect from his multiple flights by referring to them collectively as  “trips”. My research of the flight logs showed no less than 6 different “trips” in 2002/2003, WITH A TOTAL OF 26 FLIGHTS ON THE LOLITA EXPRESS.

“Staff, supporters of the foundation, and his Secret Service detail traveled on every leg of every trip.”

Fact check: By my calculations, no less than 15 Clinton flights on two different trips had no secret service: one trip in Asia, and one in Africa.

“He had one meeting with Epstein in his Harlem office in 2002, and around the same time made one brief visit to Epstein’s New York apartment with a staff member and his security detail.”

Fact check: His connections to Epstein are well documented and date back to the early 1990’s, as we will demonstrate.

Also, see how his legal team talks about “apartment”, to avoid any mention of the US$77M Town House recently raided by FBI.

“He’s not spoken to Epstein in well over a decade, and he has never been to Little St. James Island, Epstein’s ranch in New Mexico, or his residence in Florida.”

Fact check: Clinton was mentioned by Epstein victim Virginia Giuffre as having been on “The Island”. Rumors abound that employees on the Little Saint James Island have also talked about his presence.

In the months before he ran for president, reportedly Donald Trump discussed with National Enquirer owner David Pecker how the Epstein sexual abuse scandal might affect the Clintons. “Trump said that Pecker had told him that the pictures of Clinton that Epstein had from his island were worse,” recalled a former Trump organization employee.

 

Who is the girl Clinton was pictured with?

Rachel Chandler’s parents owned the Los Angeles Times. She grew up at the very pinnacle of American entertainment.

Now, rumored connections to the inner sanctum of Jeffrey Epstein’s pedophile procurement for cash and blackmail have forced her to delete her Instagram account.

But a mountain of evidence confirms the darkest suspicions about the true nature of these powerful circles and the slimy underbelly of child abuse, sex trafficking, molestation, rape, ritualized abuse that Americans will soon learn is the true currency of the power brokerage of the United States and the world elite.

 

[3] – The White House docs

The Daily Beast is owned by IAC, which has Chelsea Clinton on the Board of Directors. But that did NOT keep it from sending reporters to the Clinton Library and DEMOLISHING Bill’s alibi.

Existing records indicate that Jeffrey Epstein and his longtime associate Ghislaine Maxwell were present at a September 1993 fundraiser dinner in the Clinton White House. Here they are, in the guest list:

And here, also is a letter from the White House Historical Association thanking him for his generous 10k donation. From 1993. That’s 12 YEARS before he began being investigated by Palm Beach PD in 2005.

 

Also featured in this Daily Beast piece is a letter from Lynn de Forrester (future Rothschild) talking about discussing Jeffrey Epstein with the president. This helps establish a Clinton-Epstein link from an early date.

See this video

[4] – Flight Manifestos:

The “Lolita Express” logs ALSO contradict Bill Clinton’s statement.

Listen to Conchita Sarnoff:

“Clinton flew, was a guest of Epstein’s 27 times. Many of those times Clinton had his Secret Service with him, and many times he did not. Almost all the times there were underage girls.”

I found six different trips, with multiple legs, between 2002 and 2003.

 

A – February 9th, 2002 | Miami, FL > Westchester, NY.

Passengers: Bill Clinton, 4 secret service agents, “2 males and one female”, Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, SK, AP.

(“2 males and one female”, unnamed, can give space to much speculation.)

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B – March 19th – 21st, 2002 | NY > London > NY.

Passengers: Bill Clinton, Doug Band, “3 secret service agents”, Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, SK.

 On the return trip: Bill Clinton, Doug Band, “10 secret service agents”, Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell SK. Naomi Campbell, “1 male”.

(On the return trip, 7 new agents embarked? They went ahead to London? Or did some other people get to be counted as secret service agents when they were not?)

 C – May 22nd – 25th, 2002 | Japan > Hong Kong > Shenzhen (China) > Singapore > Bangkok > Brunei.

Passengers: Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, SK, AP, CL, Bill Clinton, Doug Bank, Mike, Janelle, Jessica.

(Janelle and Jessica? I’m sure Bill will insist they were there “working”.)

D – July 13th, 2002 | Morocco > Azores (Portugal) > NY.

Passengers: Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, SK, AP, CL, Bill Clinton, Doug Bank, Mike, 8 secret service agents.

 

E – September 21st, 2002 | NY > Azores > Ghana > Nigeria > Ruanda > Mozambique > South Africa > Ghana > Paris > London > Paris.

(My best approximation of) Passengers: Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker, Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, SK, CL, Chantal Davies, Doug Bank, Andrea Merovich, David Slack (?), Jim Kennedy, Gail Novak, Rodney Slater, Ron Burkle, Casey & Laura Wasserman, Gail Smedley, Ira Magaziner.

 (What a party! Filled with alleged sex predators, running unchecked through Africa.)

 F – November 5th – 9th, 2003 | Oslo (Norway) > Siberia, Russia > Hong Kong > Chengdu (China) > Beijing (China).

Passengers: Jeffrey Epstein, AM, Ghislaine Maxwell, SK, DB. 4 secret service agents, Ira Magaziner, 4 illegible names.

[5] – The Foundation.

Remember this bit, from Clinton’s statement?

“In 2002 and 2003, President Clinton took a total of four trips on Jeffrey Epstein’s airplane: one to Europe, one to Asia, and two to Africa, which included stops in connection with the work of the Clinton Foundation.”

Lolita Express in the service of official foundation work? The most astonishing link between Clinton and Epstein is stated on a 2007 letter from Epstein’s lawyers. Listen again to Conchita Sarnoff:

“Epstein was one of the original funders of Clinton Global Initiative. He gave President Clinton four million dollars, according to a source.” 

The 23-page letter, written by high-powered lawyers Alan Dershowitz and Gerald Lefcourt, was part of a successful bid to negotiate a plea deal before Epstein could be tried in Florida.

[6] – Island Bill.

Virginia Roberts, who has accused Epstein of turning her into a “sex slave” at age 17 and forcing her to sleep with his powerful friends, claimed Clinton stayed in one of the many villas on Epstein’s US Virgin Islands estate — where group sex was a “regular occurrence.”

“I remember asking Jeffrey, ‘What’s Bill Clinton doing here?’ kind of thing, and he laughed it off and said, ‘Well, he owes me a favor.’ He never told me what favors they were.”

Clinton was accompanied by two of Epstein’s regular girlfriends and “two young girls that I could identify,” Giuffre said in a 2014 lawsuit. She added that, while she saw Clinton on the island, she did not see him engage in sex.

“Epstein required me to describe the sexual events that I had with these men, presumably so that he could potentially blackmail them,” the now 31-year-old wrote.

Once the content of the multiple Epstein blackmail vaults start pouring out, many reputations will succumb. One of them, it seems safe to expect, will be of William J. Clinton.

[7] – Epstein had “Clinton in drag” portrait.

 

As I finished writing this article, the UK press posted a rather blurry photo of a portrait of Bill Clinton in drag, wearing a blue dress and red shoes.

This picture of the painting was snapped in 2012, in Jeffrey Epstein’s NY home. You know – that guy that Bill Clinton insists to know only very briefly.

 

 

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  • I hope the US don’t use the UK trick of holding ‘An Inquiry’ that goes on for so long that most people forget that one was ever started.

    • Please God, no. The minute some of us in the UK hear the words..”the govt. will be calling for an inquiry into the events surrounding..” I think all concerned individuals die a little. Spent the whole of last summer attending inquiry meetings over a recent housing disaster. It hurts, really hurts, to feel in moments like it’s all a f*cking set-up, a piece of theatre, given that most everyone presenting evidence, is doing so in good faith, the hope that something good will come of it. Sadly, this is very seldom the case.

  • The highly privileged nasty freaks are all in bed together, regardless of their political factions, positions or acts of pretension. The sooner that “we the people” understand that, the better will be the chances to expose the crimes, especially the crimes against children who can’t rescue themselves, and maybe to prevent these crimes from hiding in the dark. This pastime of obtaining sexual kicks overcomes political and international boundaries. The predatory cruelty knows no ideological limits and is an international pursuit.

    The entanglements are handy for blackmail and for getting reputations wrecked and for making a ton of tax-free money. But the main thrill is a kind of primitive and vicious energy-sucking of the sexuality of those who are too young for sex to be an act of free will. It is the opposite of equality. Sex for power and dominance wants no equality. It wants a totality of subjugation.

    This invasive dominance satisfies grotesque sexual compulsions which can really never be satisfied, so the foulness goes on and on. There is smug pleasure involved in fooling all of the peasants who wouldn’t believe what is really being done to some of the easily disposable kids. We hear some voices of people who managed to get away from being owned. We don’t hear the silence of those who didn’t survive. We don’t know the pain, confusion, anger and self-blame which can be consuming those survivors who haven’t had the opportunity to begin healing and adapting to never being the same again.

    If the predators’ fascination is, among other things, to use their sexual energy for pursuing and harming kids, maybe some creative designers will corner a market and furnish them with animatronic sex dolls made to look like little boys and girls. They can make facial expressions programmed in to look terrified or in shock or worshipful or whatever the pervs want. Even the look of death can be designed for the bastards. Maybe three or four less kids will have to be used everyday. But predators are never satisfied. That is one of the costs of sinking so low.

  • The Rachel Chandler—–Jeffrey Epstein connection has been debunked by the Miami Herald reporter who uncovered the Epstein story in the first place.

    • In the first place? You are so badly informed! Many people were reporting on that. She can’t debunk anything. The photo is there for the world to see. You are a Clinton shill.

  • “Sultan Of Six” pretended to be a little girl called Jesse on Kristin Kreuk’s NXIVM project Girls By Design. That is grooming. Perhaps he and Epstein were spank buddies. India has taken back Kashmir and the spank machine is using his salty tears to spank with.

  • Are Jeffrey and Donald going to get equal treatment? Will Epstein’s connections to the Bush White House that oversaw the virtual sweeping of his crimes under the rug, also be scrutinized?

    And if not, and if thus there is unequal treatment, does that mean bias in the coverage, and reason to suspect its veracity?

    • No, the fake news is treating Trump much worse than Jeffrey and Bill “Slick Willy” Clinton. Do you believe George W. Bush was personally involved in every single decision that was made in every single case in every single DOJ district?

    • Paul Serran, here. As soon as I get my hands on material about the Bushes I will write about it, too. I don’t care if you suspect my veracity. But if you try to defend the Clintons, you will have a hard time.

    • Aw, too bad, Spanky, the article doesn’t fit your fake news narrative. How about telling the folks here at frank report how you chat with the teen and pre-teen girls on the Kristin K sites. You know, you probably could have worked for Epstein or Raniere. Or did you? Hmm, why steer the subject away from ol’ Bill? Is this your way of sticking up for the pedos? Birds of a feather? Sure seems like the truth always rubs you the wrong way (pun intended). Why don’t you go back to crying about the Frank Report on twitter? Oh, I forgot, they don’t like you there either.

    • Hey Anonymaker, left-wing liberal here,

      Do you not find the trail of death that flows in the wake of the Clintons at all suspicious? I may be at political odds with Bush Sr. & Jnr. and Donald Trump, but why should that disbar me from calling foul on both Clinton and O’bomber for their amoral and reckless behaviour?

      I don’t believe that holding a particular political view, requires me to harbour the criminality of even, fellow travelers.

      All politicians, because the besetting fault of power seems to be corruption, should be held to account. Get off the see-saw and practice balance of mind. Its the only thing that will get us ALL to a place of security and clear judgment.

  • Jeffrey Epstein’s gal pal Ghislaine Maxwell spotted at In-N-Out Burger in first photos since his death

    The Post found the socialite hiding in plain sight in the least likely place imaginable — a fast-food joint in Los Angeles.

    Maxwell, 57, the alleged madam to the multimillionaire pedophile, was scarfing down a burger, fries and shake al fresco at an In-N-Out Burger on Monday while reading “The Book of Honor: The Secret Lives and Deaths of CIA Operatives,” a nonfiction best seller by journalist Ted Gup

    Jeffrey Epstein’s gal pal Ghislaine Maxwell spotted at In-N-Out Burger in first photos since his death
    Ghislaine Maxwell pictured at In-N-Out burger in Los Angeles.
    Jeffrey Epstein’s former gal pal Ghislaine Maxwell isn’t holed up in her British manor or summering on the Massachusetts coast.

    Sitting alone with a pet pooch, she was surprised to be found and told an onlooker, “Well, I guess this is the last time I’ll be eating here!”

    Maxwell, accused in court papers of providing sex slaves for Epstein and engaging in threesomes with the financier and underage girls, had not been photographed in public since 2016.

    The daughter of the late, disgraced publishing tycoon Robert Maxwell has not been charged with any crimes but could find herself in the feds’ crosshairs following Epstein’s apparent jailhouse suicide Saturday.

    https://nypost.com/2019/08/15/jeffrey-epsteins-gal-pal-ghislaine-maxwell-spotted-at-in-n-out-burger-in-first-photos-since-his-death/

    • The article also states, “A source close to Maxwell recently told Vanity Fair that she spoke openly about procuring girls for Epstein.

      “Ghislaine was in love with Jeffrey the way she was in love with her father. She always thought if she just did one more thing for him, to please him, he would marry her,” the source said. “When I asked what she thought of the underage girls, she looked at me and said, ‘they’re nothing, these girls. They are trash.’””

      The similarities to Raniere’s wing-women are staggering.

    • “Hiding in plain sight” is an interesting way to put it. There’s no indication whatsoever that this woman was in hiding. The phraseology makes it sound that way though; it makes the ordinary into something suspicious, a mystery and a revelation, something to be sold at newsstands and clickbait. Peak NY Post.

      Was the woman disguised? No. Was she holed up in a room rented using a false name? No. She’s sitting outside a popular restaurant visible to every passerby having lunch. In what sense is this “hiding”?

      • One of Edgar Allan Poe’s most famous stories is titled “The Purloined Leter.” where a sensitive letter is stolen and the police can not find it.
        Where was it hidden?
        In plain sight.
        The Purloined Letter
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Purloined_Letter

        And notice the book that Ms. Maxwell was reading!
        A book about CIA agents who lost their lives while servicing their country.
        Maxwell did not choose that book by accident.
        Ms. Maxwell is clearly hinting that both she and Epstein were intelligence operatives engaged in a honeypot blackmail operation involving the use of underage girls.

        Don’t be surprised if Ms. Maxwell has a “Dead Man’s Switch” where if she is arrested the blackmail material exposing numerous politicians and businessmen as pedophiles is released on the internet for the world to see.
        Dead man’s switch
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_man%27s_switch

      • Hiding in plain site is a term that means the person is not hiding, but they are visible in an environment you don’t expect to see them, such as a multi-million dollar hieress at a burger joint.

  • https://mobile.twitter.com/markvicente/status/1162154584850259969

    Hmmm, where have you heard this before… 🤔

    Oh, yes, you were in a pedophile sex cult called NXIVM for double digit numbers, named in the same expose that revealed your leader raped LITTLE CHILDREN, the same month you and your mother were named in a criminal lawsuit, the same month your mother’s financial crime activity was exposed by John Tigue who you’ve come face to face with taking his picture… and you still stayed with the cult, because you are a pretentious piece of excrement.

    Then you take a cowardly immunity deal to save your old, failure-in-life ass and try to shield yourself from both your dear cult and the feds.

    What a slimey dirtbag.

    You are just like your beloved pedophile leader Keith Raniere, a pretentious, fake coward.

    BTW, your stupid wife ruined Star Wars with her presence.

    • There is a story on Radar Online about Vicente and Karen Unterreiner hanging out in Know Woods, Clifton Park and Halfmoon together and filming some kind of NXIVM movie.
      The neighbors there just want their lives returned to normal.

      Allison Mack’s Former House Of Horrors Now A NXIVM Movie Set!
      New York neighbors are ‘pissed’ over cameras and drones in use for documentary.

      According to angry neighbors in Halfmoon, New York, the former condominium complex where Mack, 37, operated the NXIVM sex cult’s inner sex ring alongside founder Keith Raniere , 58, is being filmed by documentarians who plan to release footage from their eerie properties.

      One neighbor told Radar that former NXIVM member Mark Vicente has been spotted roaming the neighborhood with Raniere’s rumored former girlfriend, Karen Unterreiner. As Radar readers know, Vicente testified against Raniere during his federal trial, while Unterreiner laid low at her home, which is in the same NXIVM neighborhood.
      https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2019/08/allison-mack-new-york-home-turned-nxivm-movie-set/

    • Why is it you’re always attacking people who left the cult and turned against it? How long have you been in NXIVM and how long have you been faking not being in it on this site troll?

    • Snopes???????? lol Come on skippy you can do better. Stick around little fella, you are in for a rude awakening about Ray Chandler.

    • Thanks, it’s interesting to see the conspiracy sphere outed for circulating faked stories.

      And just as with Raniere’s fabricated biography and other claims of the NXIVM cult, they it buy hook, line and sinker without any critical examination.

      It’s confirmation bias at work:

      Your bias is confirmation bias

      You favor things that confirm your existing beliefs.

      We are primed to see and agree with ideas that fit our preconceptions, and to ignore and dismiss information that conflicts with them. You could say that this is the mother of all biases, as it affects so much of our thinking through motivated reasoning. To help counteract its influence we ought to presume ourselves wrong until proven right.

      Think of your ideas and beliefs as software you’re actively trying to find problems with rather than things to be defended. “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself – and you are the easiest person to fool.” – Richard Feynman

      https://yourbias.is/confirmation-bias

      This is from an excellent new site about cognitive biases, from the same folks who put up the excellent Your Logical Fallacy is website, who seek to “spread rationality”:

      https://yourbias.is/

      • Thanks Anony. Seems like your commentary helps greatly in offering a more balanced perspective. Appreciate your comments.

        • Perspective of what? That you and he are fellow left wing conspiracy kooks. We know you and he love the Clintons and their fellow evil ilk and support the two tier system of justice that keep them in massive wealth and corruption. You and they are they reason Trump was elected against all odds of your globalist criminal masters. And Trump is winning bigly. The elitist shitatains you airheads support are now having to play defense to keep their precious fucking Pedo swamp.

    • To begin with, Snopes do not fact check any shit. and I did not say it was Epstein’s plane. It is Rachel Chandler in the photo, the child procurer for the elites. Get a life.

      • It’s someone who looks as if they might be Rachel Chandler. There’s no evidence who is in the photo, other than speculation. Plus there’s also no evidence that the real Rachel Chandler is actually anything other than a modeling industry professional.

        The young woman in the photo also reminds me of Virginia Giuffre, who Prince Andrew was photographed with. That got me thinking, and when I googled photos of Rachel Chandler, I found her with other young women who kind of have the same look, similar to models – it’s what’s popular in those sort of circles. Just look at the women Trump married, they’re all close enough in appearance (or were when they were young) that they could be cousins if not sisters.

        And Snopes does a pretty good job of actually investigating things. You might disagree with their conclusions, but if you can’t at least appreciate the attempt to rigorously use facts and analysis, that says a lot.

  • This is at best a clumsy smear job, innuendo proving nothing.

    I get that some people hate the Clintons. I’m no fan of Bill or Hillary either, but this is Pizzagate-level stuff. It reminds me of the foolish vitriol spewed out by the Trump-haters.

    Bill Clinton in a blue dress and high heels. You do realize this is a painting, right? That’s not evidence that Bill is a cross dressing perv? It’s pretty much like a that painting of dogs playing poker– not evidence that dogs can play poker.

    Then there’s the photo of Bill with a young woman, which is presented twice. This is supposed to signify… what? You know you’re in the midst of a Moral Panic when the photograph of a fully clothed man standing next to a young woman is meant to imply shenanigans of some sort. Yeah, real suspicious.

    In the theocratic dictatorship of Iran, they have morality police. Maybe we should have that here, yes? Make sure unrelated males and females have no contact with each other, that women go veiled, there’s no dancing or music.

    Back during the Monica Lewinsky thing, when it came out that Bill Clinton had gotten (gasp!) blow jobs in the White House, I thought it was much ado about nothing. It was politically motivated pearl-clutching. Yes, he shoulda been ashamed of himself for cheating on his wife. It was thoughtless and immoral of him. But it was nothing of national import. And I feel the same way about Donald Trump and his crude grab-em by the pussy comment. The man’s a dick, but all the sanctimonious moralizing about these people makes me sick.

    • I agree with you about whole “blowjob” witch hunt. Yet, once it was discovered, I think the “much ado about nothing” was actually something. Bills infamous statement, “I DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS-WITH THIS WOMAN” before the American people proved him to be a liar as well as a cheat! He went with sheer denial, until they proved it! Did he foresee her setting him up with his semen on her dress? He thought it unprovable, and his true character appeared anyways. I have a feeling this situation will be the same.

  • Well I’m sure Epstein has video somewhere. If the F.B.I. Find him with underage girls. Wowza!!! THAT will be the trial of the century. Forget about that dress. Monica Lewinsky will laughing her ass off in the front row. As will Paula Jones, and Juanita Broadrick and Kathleen Wiley and so on and so on etc etc etc.

  • The “up and coming” models on Rachel Chandlers page didn’t look anything like the girls we see on the island or with Epstein. Different clientele?

  • If this story is true, why are the NXians still hanging out in Clifton Park aggravating people who just want to be left alone?
    I don’t give a damn whether these people are pro- or anti-Raniere!
    I don’t give a damn whether these people are current or former NXians!
    The people of Clifton Park and Knox Woods just want to live normal lives and live in a normal neighborhood.
    And if Vicente and Unterreiner want to get over NXIVM, then stop trying to milk this tragedy!

    “Allison Mack’s Former House Of Horrors Now A NXIVM Movie Set!
    New York neighbors are ‘pissed’ over cameras and drones in use for documentary.
    August 15, 2019 @ 5:53AM”

    “Disgraced actress Allison Mack’s former house of horrors in upstate New York has apparently become a NXIVM movie set, neighbors exclusively revealed to RadarOnline.com.

    According to angry neighbors in Halfmoon, New York, the former condominium complex where Mack, 37, operated the NXIVM sex cult’s inner sex ring alongside founder Keith Raniere, 58, is being filmed by documentarians who plan to release footage from their eerie properties.

    One neighbor told Radar that former NXIVM member Mark Vicente has been spotted roaming the neighborhood with Raniere’s rumored former girlfriend, Karen Unterreiner. As Radar readers know, Vicente testified against Raniere during his federal trial, while Unterreiner laid low at her home, which is in the same NXIVM neighborhood.”

    “It’s getting nuts!” a frustrated resident told Radar on Wednesday. “They are using a drone to fly around the neighborhood and it could hit my car!”

    Halfmoon and Clifton Park, New York neighbors previously told Radar that they were fed up with the heightened foot traffic in the neighborhood as a result of the cult.

    As Radar readers know, the former Smallville actress was accused of allegedly branding female cult members with a cauterizing iron at her Halfmoon property.”

    “Amid the documentary filming, Raniere is currently sitting in federal prison after being convicted of seven felonies, including sex trafficking and racketeering. Mack currently remains under house arrest at her parents’ California home. The two are awaiting new court dates to be scheduled for their sentencing.

    The eyewitness in Halfmoon told Radar that most non-NXIVM neighbors are ready for the circus to end.

    “I don’t like the idea of them taking pictures near my place,” said the insider. “The whole neighborhood is talking about it and not in a good way.”
    https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2019/08/allison-mack-new-york-home-turned-nxivm-movie-set/

    • Shadowstate,

      You make an, actually, excellent point….

      “The people of Clifton Park and Knox Woods just want to live normal lives and live in a normal neighborhood.
      And if Vicente and Unterreiner want to get over NXIVM, then stop trying to milk this tragedy!”

      WTF right?

      “Yes. we the criminal co-conspirators who benefited from the criminal enterprise will now benefit from milking our tell all stories.”

      I am sorry, but fuck them!

  • The Clintons.

    For some reason that nobody has been able to adequately explain, they provoke a feeling of visceral revulsion in many people.

    An ‘unwholesome aura’ surrounds them.

    Bill Clinton and Epstein as best buddies?

    Is anyone surprised?

    Anyone?

    • Shadow
      One of the (many) odd things about that painting is Bill’s hands. The artist gave him 6 fingers on his right hand, and apparently only 4 fingers on his left hand. WTF? Is there some type secret message encoded in this finger fuck-up, or was Epstein too cheap to hire a professional artist?
      🤣

      • Flowers—-

        You one crazy white woman. Why you counting a man’s fingers?
        How long u study the painting for looking for a secret message? And found the finger count off?
        I know you were searching the polack’s blue dress for the baby batter stain. Right?
        You think you in a Dan Brown book?
        Ala The da Vinci code

        • A few questions for my stalker “dickwad”:

          Why do you assume I’m white? Lol

          How you so stupid that you can’t see immediately that Bill’s hand is portrayed with 6 fingers? His hand is either pointing at the observer; or his hand is making a fist. It can be viewed either way.

          What has this got to do with Dan Brown? You seem a little confused, Mr. Dick Wad.

      • It’s not six fingers on one hand and four on the other. The right hand have five fingers, including the thumb, showing, and what you think is the sixth finger is actually the bottom of the hand. The left hand shows four fingers and the thumb is hidden behind the hand. Somebody is knocking on your door, go answer it.

        • No way is that only 5 fingers on the right hand, Scott, it’s definitely six. But I agree that the left thumb is hidden, I was just joking about that. But now that I know about the 6 fingered Obama painting, I’m pretty sure these extra presidential fingers are code for something.
          What do you think, Scotty?

          Lol.

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